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OC 2av2
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Posted - 2010.11.07 23:40:00 -
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I am confused when People asking me: to what coalition I belong - north or south?
Honestly: I don't know the difference between those. Does anybody have any links to read about those coalitions? What they are, what they do, what values they follow and so on?
  
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Kalasano Kamo
Caldari World of EVEcraft
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Posted - 2010.11.08 00:06:00 -
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North = bunch of napped alliances that everyone hates because everyone that tries to kill them fails South = IT alliance, who everyone hates because they use dev hax, also stain-empire and coven who are pretty cool bros East = russians, who everyone hates because they are russian West = who cares
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kano donn
Right Ascension
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Posted - 2010.11.08 00:13:00 -
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/NC
the south died.
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Lord Evangelian
Gallente LEAP Corp
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Posted - 2010.11.08 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kalasano Kamo North = bunch of napped alliances that everyone hates because everyone that tries to kill them fails South = IT alliance, who everyone hates because they use dev hax, also stain-empire and coven who are pretty cool bros East = russians, who everyone hates because they are russian West = who cares
basically
That can be considered nationalist, carful...
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.11.08 00:31:00 -
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Everyone hates the Russians because they cheat, not because they're just Russians.
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Selinate
Amarr Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.11.08 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: captain foivos Everyone hates the Russians because they cheat, not because they're just Russians.
could you elaborate? How exactly do they cheat?
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Sverige Pahis
Caldari Random Selection. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.11.08 00:35:00 -
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In b4 NC hate
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.11.08 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Evangelian
Originally by: Kalasano Kamo North = bunch of napped alliances that everyone hates because everyone that tries to kill them fails South = IT alliance, who everyone hates because they use dev hax, also stain-empire and coven who are pretty cool bros East = russians, who everyone hates because they are russian West = who cares
basically
That can be considered nationalist, carful...
Just do as I do and hate everyone equally and you avoid these problems! 
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
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iP0D
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Posted - 2010.11.08 00:55:00 -
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Flatten map. North is north of the equator, south is below. No wait. Equator = Jita.
Go read www.evenews24.com, as a starting point.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.11.08 00:56:00 -
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look at the idiot attack in thread.
First
Originally by: Kalasano Kamo
East = russians, who everyone hates because they are russian
basically
Originally by: Lord Evangelian
That can be considered nationalist, carful...
WRONG. Thats not nationalist. The comment is about what players do - not about the Russians.
Originally by: captain foivos Everyone hates the Russians because they cheat, not because they're just Russians.
On the other hand this quote could be logically construed as nationalist(even if its maybe true in a general sense.)
But brain trust Evangelian doesnt ssay anything.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.11.08 01:12:00 -
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If you don't know then you aren't in either and if by some miracle you actually are in one of them you should stop playing.
Also I think you are on Team Jacob.
--Welcome to EVE where 'Commit to Excellence' means trying to squeeze another dime out of the player base.-- |

William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.11.08 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Bhattran Also I think you are on Team Jacob.
Unf unf.
Originally by: Templar Dane Tanking is not a role.
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.11.08 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: kano donn
the south died.
This
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cBOLTSON
Reaction Theory Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.11.08 03:20:00 -
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Edited by: cBOLTSON on 08/11/2010 03:22:32 Correct me if I am wrong, I didnt realise there was a west of delve.... :S
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Squasar
Doom Guard Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.11.08 03:37:00 -
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Edited by: Squasar on 08/11/2010 03:38:53 Step one: Look at map http://evemaps.dotlan.net/universe
Step two: Get compass
Step three: ?
Step four: Profit
Edited for link fail
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Double Dee
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.11.08 04:15:00 -
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the northern coalition is a group of well skilled players in both skill and fire power. basically the cream of the crop. the 'top gun' players of eve online if you will.
the southern coalition is pretty much the **** that is left over. in any game, there are winners and there are losers. these are the losers. it is too difficult to keep track of what alliances are part of the sc because right after they get curb stomped by the nc, they reroll new alliances hoping the fairness that was part of their previous alliance does not follow them. this of course never works out as you can see is such alliances like bob, tri and pl to name a few.
the sc has also been busted for cheating on many occasions. from use real life money to influence ccp developers to programs that make them not appear in local to the efamouse t20 incident where a developer spaded t2 bpos for them. this is the reason for the csm. to keep tabs on ccp and sc involvement. that is why the majority of the csm is headed by the nc with one representative from the sc and a token guy from high sec.
if you are looking for an alliance to join and are not some raving cheater and tremendously butt hurt all the time, then the nc is for you. if you make the mistake of siding with the sc, well, god help you. rest assured we will kick you teeth in and make you watch us back door your mom. no one ****s with us. we have dominated the game for as long as i can remember and unless you live under a rock, we are only getting better and better. which is why in assembly hall it is full of bitter butt hurt sc proposals.
the choice is yours.
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Jennifer Drama
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.11.08 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: Double Dee the northern coalition is a group of well skilled players in both skill and fire power. basically the cream of the crop. the 'top gun' players of eve online if you will.
the southern coalition is pretty much the **** that is left over. in any game, there are winners and there are losers. these are the losers. it is too difficult to keep track of what alliances are part of the sc because right after they get curb stomped by the nc, they reroll new alliances hoping the fairness that was part of their previous alliance does not follow them. this of course never works out as you can see is such alliances like bob, tri and pl to name a few.
the sc has also been busted for cheating on many occasions. from use real life money to influence ccp developers to programs that make them not appear in local to the efamouse t20 incident where a developer spaded t2 bpos for them. this is the reason for the csm. to keep tabs on ccp and sc involvement. that is why the majority of the csm is headed by the nc with one representative from the sc and a token guy from high sec.
if you are looking for an alliance to join and are not some raving cheater and tremendously butt hurt all the time, then the nc is for you. if you make the mistake of siding with the sc, well, god help you. rest assured we will kick you teeth in and make you watch us back door your mom. no one ****s with us. we have dominated the game for as long as i can remember and unless you live under a rock, we are only getting better and better. which is why in assembly hall it is full of bitter butt hurt sc proposals.
the choice is yours.
You almost sound like you believe your own troll. Well done. 
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Tyber Zaan
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Posted - 2010.11.08 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tyber Zaan on 08/11/2010 05:41:49
Originally by: Double Dee the northern coalition is a group of well skilled players in both skill and fire power. basically the cream of the crop. the 'top gun' players of eve online if you will.
the southern coalition is pretty much the **** that is left over. in any game, there are winners and there are losers. these are the losers. it is too difficult to keep track of what alliances are part of the sc because right after they get curb stomped by the nc, they reroll new alliances hoping the fairness that was part of their previous alliance does not follow them. this of course never works out as you can see is such alliances like bob, tri and pl to name a few.
the sc has also been busted for cheating on many occasions. from use real life money to influence ccp developers to programs that make them not appear in local to the efamouse t20 incident where a developer spaded t2 bpos for them. this is the reason for the csm. to keep tabs on ccp and sc involvement. that is why the majority of the csm is headed by the nc with one representative from the sc and a token guy from high sec.
if you are looking for an alliance to join and are not some raving cheater and tremendously butt hurt all the time, then the nc is for you. if you make the mistake of siding with the sc, well, god help you. rest assured we will kick you teeth in and make you watch us back door your mom. no one ****s with us. we have dominated the game for as long as i can remember and unless you live under a rock, we are only getting better and better. which is why in assembly hall it is full of bitter butt hurt sc proposals.
the choice is yours.
This isn't baised or a not-so-thinly veiled recruitment ad in the slightest. 
Also,
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Confirmed- Double Dee is Cromo Effect's new alt.
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.11.08 05:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Evangelian
Originally by: Kalasano Kamo North = bunch of napped alliances that everyone hates because everyone that tries to kill them fails South = IT alliance, who everyone hates because they use dev hax, also stain-empire and coven who are pretty cool bros East = russians, who everyone hates because they are russian West = who cares
basically
That can be considered nationalist, carful...
Maybe irony is tough to grasp between different cultures and languages, but clearly this guy is jesting with that russian line..
if it were "everyone hates because they are american" there's nothing wrong with that either.
Its only countries nationalities with inferiority complexes or traditionally descriminated against that seem not to be able to take that kind of barb Thrid world countries, or countries traditionally abused or exploited take that sort of thing sensitively.
The russians are a proud and advanced people.. poetry, technology, military conquest etc... they're not going to feel hurt by a little barb like that just as I think most of us americans are so self-confident that we could give a flying f if other people don't really appreciate our own ideals. I love other peoples ideas and I don't think we've got any licence to the truth, but I don't really care either if others approve of me though.
The next guy calling them cheaters crosses a different line. That cuts at honor, which is something all proud people hold dear.
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Hegbard
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Posted - 2010.11.08 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: iP0D
Go read www.evenews24.com, as a starting point.
Dear god, don't read evenews24, it was an experiment to see if it's possible to make a news site that's even more like Fox News than ISD and it succeeded.
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2010.11.08 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: captain foivos Everyone hates the Russians because they cheat, not because they're just Russians.
could you elaborate? How exactly do they cheat?
They invented macro miners?
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Zaboth Garadath
Amarr Ore Extraction Corporation
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Posted - 2010.11.08 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: captain foivos Everyone hates the Russians because they cheat, not because they're just Russians.
could you elaborate? How exactly do they cheat?
They invented macro miners?
Naa, its 'cause most of them macro rat.
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xXaRaXx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.08 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: Double Dee the northern coalition is a group of well skilled players in both skill and fire power. basically the cream of the crop. the 'top gun' players of eve online if you will.
the southern coalition is pretty much the **** that is left over. in any game, there are winners and there are losers. these are the losers. it is too difficult to keep track of what alliances are part of the sc because right after they get curb stomped by the nc, they reroll new alliances hoping the fairness that was part of their previous alliance does not follow them. this of course never works out as you can see is such alliances like bob, tri and pl to name a few.
the sc has also been busted for cheating on many occasions. from use real life money to influence ccp developers to programs that make them not appear in local to the efamouse t20 incident where a developer spaded t2 bpos for them. this is the reason for the csm. to keep tabs on ccp and sc involvement. that is why the majority of the csm is headed by the nc with one representative from the sc and a token guy from high sec.
if you are looking for an alliance to join and are not some raving cheater and tremendously butt hurt all the time, then the nc is for you. if you make the mistake of siding with the sc, well, god help you. rest assured we will kick you teeth in and make you watch us back door your mom. no one ****s with us. we have dominated the game for as long as i can remember and unless you live under a rock, we are only getting better and better. which is why in assembly hall it is full of bitter butt hurt sc proposals.
the choice is yours.
Well said
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Muul Udonii
Minmatar THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.08 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zaboth Garadath
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: captain foivos Everyone hates the Russians because they cheat, not because they're just Russians.
could you elaborate? How exactly do they cheat?
They invented macro miners?
Naa, its 'cause most of them macro rat.
Which in the drone regions is pretty much the same thing.
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Nicholas Barker
Diabolus Ex Machina
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Posted - 2010.11.08 12:06:00 -
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The south will rise again! ------
0800-LAG-A-NODE
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Muul Udonii
Minmatar THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.08 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholas Barker The south will rise again!
Turn the map upside down?
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Lady Parity
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.08 12:25:00 -
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Northern Coalition - 60k people NAPed all in north, known for exploits such as node crashing via market / contract spam, moon goo duping, RMT and many many other exploits / cheats
PL have a corp in NC and vice versa where both NC and PL work to produce caps for each other while in each other alliance, in effect PL are "Neutrals with benefits" making them NCs little puppets.
Southern Coalition doesnt exist
Russian coalition is a small coalition in the east, a fraction of the size of NC, however unlike NC they have an insane amount of decent players, very good PvPers and always up for a fight.
IT Coalition consists of Fountain / Delve / Period Basis / Querious, another small coalition, decent PvPers, some not very important guy once had dealings with a GM both IT (Bob at the time) and CCP dealt with the cheater.
Providence - Smaller coalitions, perfect example of what 0.0 should be like.
Catch and surrounding regions - Somewhat contested atm, check back in 3 months to see what is happening here :D
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Vheri Kai'or
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Posted - 2010.11.08 13:24:00 -
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lookit dat troll.
NC=a mutual defence pact originally formed in response to BoB's aggression, now it is essentially a self-perpetuating beast and is likely too strong on its home turf to ever be destroyed. folks claim it posseses 60k odd members, but then again folks claim a lot of things. it has a relatively small core of genuinely good pvpers backed up by an astonishingly large force of what amounts to "militia" who are distinctly average in ability.
SC=dead
DRF= a bloc of historically very competant and powerful alliances, spawned from the venerable Red Alliance. probably not at its strongest currently, but is certainly a fully capable coalition. gets castigated for macro's and RMT (whether its true or not i refuse to comment on)
IT=a 3rd rate powerbloc cooped up in delve and fountain. about the extent of their power projection lately has been to take HED and then gift it to INIT as a token offering of friendship. INIT may or may not be considered part of this bloc depending on who you talk to. if they are they should probably be considered the stronger partner.
stainwagon: historically a relatively minor but perversely indestructible powerbloc, recently enhanced somewhat by the addition of previous powerplayers RED overlord and -A- to their numbers (as i understand it)
"alliance" blocs:
NCDOT=triumvirate mark something or other. they finally got bored of "farming" pure blind so moved south. since the first MAX cmpaign they have been of little real importance, other than making sure MH didnt completely slide into irrelevance via the medium of scaring the incomprehensibly terrible players away from them.
PL=raep engines. a considerable force multiplier to whosoever can afford them. recently provided the DRF much assistance in killing ATLAS and routing -A-. currently chastising NC ratting supercaps, amongst other things.
psuedoblocs.
current provibloc=non invasion treaties abound. only kept from internecine ~goodfites~ by CVA
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Soma Khan
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.08 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Zaboth Garadath
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: captain foivos Everyone hates the Russians because they cheat, not because they're just Russians.
could you elaborate? How exactly do they cheat?
They invented macro miners?
Naa, its 'cause most of them macro rat.
is that statistic based on some solid statistics? or are you pulling this estimate out of your arse? is there actually any difference? please answer soon __
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Lady Parity
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.08 16:18:00 -
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Actually most 0.0 alliances have macro ratters, the main reason why NC pick and focus on drones is because tey are NCs biggest competition, in both RMT and sov.
NC pride themselves on propaganda because other alliances prefer to be all honourable, drones dont even log on these forums so never even read any of the crap, so really cheap lies from NC guess they are still angry about Russians owning them in well everything :P
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Christopher AET
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Posted - 2010.11.08 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Vheri Kai'or lookit dat troll.
NC=a mutual defence pact originally formed in response to BoB's aggression, now it is essentially a self-perpetuating beast and is likely too strong on its home turf to ever be destroyed. folks claim it posseses 60k odd members, but then again folks claim a lot of things. it has a relatively small core of genuinely good pvpers backed up by an astonishingly large force of what amounts to "militia" who are distinctly average in ability.
SC=dead
DRF= a bloc of historically very competant and powerful alliances, spawned from the venerable Red Alliance. probably not at its strongest currently, but is certainly a fully capable coalition. gets castigated for macro's and RMT (whether its true or not i refuse to comment on)
IT=a 3rd rate powerbloc cooped up in delve and fountain. about the extent of their power projection lately has been to take HED and then gift it to INIT as a token offering of friendship. INIT may or may not be considered part of this bloc depending on who you talk to. if they are they should probably be considered the stronger partner.
stainwagon: historically a relatively minor but perversely indestructible powerbloc, recently enhanced somewhat by the addition of previous powerplayers RED overlord and -A- to their numbers (as i understand it)
"alliance" blocs:
NCDOT=triumvirate mark something or other. they finally got bored of "farming" pure blind so moved south. since the first MAX cmpaign they have been of little real importance, other than making sure MH didnt completely slide into irrelevance via the medium of scaring the incomprehensibly terrible players away from them.
PL=raep engines. a considerable force multiplier to whosoever can afford them. recently provided the DRF much assistance in killing ATLAS and routing -A-. currently chastising NC ratting supercaps, amongst other things.
psuedoblocs.
current provibloc=non invasion treaties abound. only kept from internecine ~goodfites~ by CVA
As a British guy working with the Russian bloc I can say this is true. In fact the best appraisal yet. When even numbers with NC we wipe the floor. But their sheer numbers are truly astonishing. Ironically a Soviet leader once said "Quantity has a quality all of it's own"
how true this seems to be.
As for the stainwagon I see them sometimes on roams but they never seem to make any real pushes for territory so most of my fights are on the northern border with NC.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Angry Dogs
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Posted - 2010.11.08 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Soma Khan
is that statistic based on some solid statistics? or are you pulling this estimate out of your arse? is there actually any difference? please answer soon
Anyone who visits the drone lands for a while knows this. Hence why most gangs take bubbles for the belts.
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knobber Jobbler
Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.08 16:47:00 -
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nc does well because it has excellent fc's, decent logistics, corps and alliances with good ship replacement programs, good Intel and clear objectives.
nc is just very well organisied and a great example of eve's player run and controlled game mechanics.
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Soma Khan
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.08 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Soma Khan
is that statistic based on some solid statistics? or are you pulling this estimate out of your arse? is there actually any difference? please answer soon
Anyone who visits the drone lands for a while knows this. Hence why most gangs take bubbles for the belts.
that does not answer the question and adds another 'statistic'. are you intellectually challenged or a liar? __
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Lady Parity
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.08 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: knobber Jobbler nc does well because it has excellent fc's, decent logistics, corps and alliances with good ship replacement programs, good Intel and clear objectives.
nc is just very well organisied and a great example of eve's player run and controlled game mechanics.
Wow this is the first time I have seen a player in a non NC alliance compliment NC, oh wait you are new NC pets, my bad, it is hard to keep track of who is blue to NC with a new alliance joining their NAP Cancer every day
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.11.08 17:09:00 -
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Y'know, the reason CAOD has a "post with your main" requirement is because of trolling NPC alts like you.
(It takes one to know one, ma'am...or more probably sir)
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Lady Parity
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.08 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: captain foivos Y'know, the reason CAOD has a "post with your main" requirement is because of trolling NPC alts like you.
(It takes one to know one, ma'am...or more probably sir)
Well captain obvious thank you for that, you seem to be living up to your name, but this is my forum main so until theres a 'post with your non NPC main' I dont see a need to.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Angry Dogs
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Posted - 2010.11.08 17:28:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Soma Khan
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Soma Khan
is that statistic based on some solid statistics? or are you pulling this estimate out of your arse? is there actually any difference? please answer soon
Anyone who visits the drone lands for a while knows this. Hence why most gangs take bubbles for the belts.
that does not answer the question and adds another 'statistic'. are you intellectually challenged or a liar?
You seem to be raging quite a bit. Are you one of them?
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knobber Jobbler
Executive Intervention Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.08 17:42:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Lady Parity
Originally by: knobber Jobbler nc does well because it has excellent fc's, decent logistics, corps and alliances with good ship replacement programs, good Intel and clear objectives.
nc is just very well organisied and a great example of eve's player run and controlled game mechanics.
Wow this is the first time I have seen a player in a non NC alliance compliment NC, oh wait you are new NC pets, my bad, it is hard to keep track of who is blue to NC with a new alliance joining their NAP Cancer every day
You say pet, I say WTF are you talking about? Look at it like this; after years as a carebear I want to PVP, I'm in a PVP corp, in a PVP alliance and in the NC. Oddly enough this gives me opportunities to PVP whenever I log on. I'm not awesome at PVP but I enjoy it. NC gets as much out of me as I get out of it ;).
Its quite allot of fun going half way across the EVE galaxy, with the logistics and industry to support that to do some PVP. Makes it interesting and varied. It gets pretty dull sitting in the same couple of systems every day fighting the same people.
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Soma Khan
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.08 17:46:00 -
[40]
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Soma Khan
Originally by: baltec1
Anyone who visits the drone lands for a while knows this. Hence why most gangs take bubbles for the belts.
that does not answer the question and adds another 'statistic'. are you intellectually challenged or a liar?
You seem to be raging quite a bit. Are you one of them?
itÆs a matter of perspective. to me you look like you carry a pretty big chip on your shoulder __
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.11.08 17:51:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 08/11/2010 17:55:28
Originally by: Lady Parity Wow this is the first time I have seen a player in a non NC alliance compliment NC, oh wait you are new NC pets, my bad, it is hard to keep track of who is blue to NC with a new alliance joining their NAP Cancer every day
What's your problem with NC and NAP? We all know that EVE's PvP is first and formost a numbers game and they have their act together pretty well atm.
EVE's simple PvP game mechanic: numbers > all. Not much individual skill needed nor rewarded, just having competent fcs and organizational skills are far more important.
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True Sight
THORN Syndicate Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.11.08 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Parity it is hard to keep track of who is blue to NC with a new alliance joining their NAP Cancer every day
Actually, its kept public and visible to everyone at all times, and a pretty small list. Note that whilst people generally like throwing the derogatory term "pet" around, that normally implies renter-agreements or such. No one in the below list pays rent to anyone else.
Full NC Members
Majesta Empire <ME> Morsus Mihi <RAWR> -Mostly Harmless- <-42-> R.A.G.E <CTL-Q> RAZOR Alliance <-RZR-> Stella Polaris. <SPLR> Wildly Inappropriate. <WI.>
Guests of NC
Morsus Mihi: 1. Rebellion Alliance <-R->, 2. Sev3rance <-7-> Mostly Harmless: 1. Fidelas Constans <FCON>, 2. SpaceMonkey's Alliance <SMA>, 3. Fatal Ascension <-FA-> RAZOR Alliance: 1. United Front Alliance <UNIT>, 2. Controlled Chaos <WTF> Wildly Inappropriate: 1. Get Off My Lawn <LAWN>, 2. The G0dfathers <DADDY>, 3. Wayfarer Stellar Initiative <STLR> Majesta Empire: 1. Majesta Frontier Alliance <MFA>, 2. Violent Entity <-VE-> Stella Polaris: 1. Polar Splendour <-PS->, 2. Black Core Alliance <BCA> R.A.G.E: 1. C0NVICTED <A.I.F>, 2. DEM0N HUNTERS <DEM0N>, 3. Cold Steel Alliance <STEEL>, 4. OWN Alliance <OWN> Deklein Coalition Goonswarm Federation <CONDI>: 1. Test Alliance Please Ignore <TEST>, 2. Tactical Narcotics Team <TNT> BEST FRIENDS FOREVER - BFF <3 --------------------------------------
True Sight President Foiritan Emissary --<<!SUPPORT DRONES!>>--
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.08 17:59:00 -
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If you ignore their assetts, their sovereignty, their allies, their wealth, accomplishments, their military and political strengths you'll realize that the NC really does suck.
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Vheri Kai'or
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Posted - 2010.11.08 18:10:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Christopher AET
Originally by: Vheri Kai'or lookit dat troll.
NC=a mutual defence pact originally formed in response to BoB's aggression, now it is essentially a self-perpetuating beast and is likely too strong on its home turf to ever be destroyed. folks claim it posseses 60k odd members, but then again folks claim a lot of things. it has a relatively small core of genuinely good pvpers backed up by an astonishingly large force of what amounts to "militia" who are distinctly average in ability.
SC=dead
DRF= a bloc of historically very competant and powerful alliances, spawned from the venerable Red Alliance. probably not at its strongest currently, but is certainly a fully capable coalition. gets castigated for macro's and RMT (whether its true or not i refuse to comment on)
IT=a 3rd rate powerbloc cooped up in delve and fountain. about the extent of their power projection lately has been to take HED and then gift it to INIT as a token offering of friendship. INIT may or may not be considered part of this bloc depending on who you talk to. if they are they should probably be considered the stronger partner.
stainwagon: historically a relatively minor but perversely indestructible powerbloc, recently enhanced somewhat by the addition of previous powerplayers RED overlord and -A- to their numbers (as i understand it)
"alliance" blocs:
NCDOT=triumvirate mark something or other. they finally got bored of "farming" pure blind so moved south. since the first MAX cmpaign they have been of little real importance, other than making sure MH didnt completely slide into irrelevance via the medium of scaring the incomprehensibly terrible players away from them.
PL=raep engines. a considerable force multiplier to whosoever can afford them. recently provided the DRF much assistance in killing ATLAS and routing -A-. currently chastising NC ratting supercaps, amongst other things.
psuedoblocs.
current provibloc=non invasion treaties abound. only kept from internecine ~goodfites~ by CVA
As a British guy working with the Russian bloc I can say this is true. In fact the best appraisal yet. When even numbers with NC we wipe the floor. But their sheer numbers are truly astonishing. Ironically a Soviet leader once said "Quantity has a quality all of it's own"
how true this seems to be.
As for the stainwagon I see them sometimes on roams but they never seem to make any real pushes for territory so most of my fights are on the northern border with NC.
thanks :)
coincidentally, i am an NC alt myself, so its nice to know that despite that im not biased :) the reason this is relevant, is because i forgot to set my main as the posting character :)
<--roleplays a girl to **** off his senior FC <3
sup ma thornies!
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Angry Dogs
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Posted - 2010.11.08 18:39:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Soma Khan Edited by: Soma Khan on 08/11/2010 18:04:49
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Soma Khan
Originally by: baltec1
Anyone who visits the drone lands for a while knows this. Hence why most gangs take bubbles for the belts.
that does not answer the question and adds another 'statistic'. are you intellectually challenged or a liar?
You seem to be raging quite a bit.
itÆs a matter of perspective. to me you look like you carry a pretty big chip on your shoulder
You never know when you might come across something that requires a chip to dunk into it.
My point stands though. That area of space is more packed with macro golems than any other part of space.
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Lady Parity
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.08 18:47:00 -
[46]
Originally by: True Sight
60k players NAPed BEST FRIENDS FOREVER - BFF <3
As a fellow NC alt I would like to confirm that I am not friends with 60k players and it seems the only people that I even remotely like are in Test out of all NC alliances
How screwed up is that
Goons / WI - For years spammed the same crap over and over, boring alliance, boring players Razor - Biggest collection of brown nose in the whole NC, I dont get why Razor pilots are so obsessed with kissing ass Rawr - Xenophobic enough said Mostly Harmless - If I have to hear another one of Mynas imaginary "we won eve" story I think I will slit my wrists Majesta - Dont know much with the exception of the inconsistent German ****** Rest - Pets, will merge or die like the rest of the pets within a year, no interest in them and no interest in flying with them even if we get a decent FC from our alliance running the show.
You would think with 60k people there would be a good % decent, now im not one to pick faults I have adapted to the mass æcloakÆ whine, the ælagÆ whine (which is pretty ironic), the æXX is in my ratting placeÆ in NC without even emo raging once.
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Soma Khan
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.08 19:00:00 -
[47]
Originally by: baltec1
My point stands though. That area of space is more packed with macro golems than any other part of space.
that's the thing though, you did not make any point __
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Angry Dogs
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Posted - 2010.11.08 19:04:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Soma Khan
Originally by: baltec1
My point stands though. That area of space is more packed with macro golems than any other part of space.
that's the thing though, you did not make any point
I speak from experience. I have been all over eve and just like there are more macro miners in ice blets there are more macro ratters in the drone lands.
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Leksi Bar'zuk
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Posted - 2010.11.08 19:13:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Lady Parity
Originally by: True Sight
60k players NAPed BEST FRIENDS FOREVER - BFF <3
As a fellow NC alt I would like to confirm that I am not friends with 60k players and it seems the only people that I even remotely like are in Test out of all NC alliances
How screwed up is that
Goons / WI - For years spammed the same crap over and over, boring alliance, boring players Razor - Biggest collection of brown nose in the whole NC, I dont get why Razor pilots are so obsessed with kissing ass Rawr - Xenophobic enough said Mostly Harmless - If I have to hear another one of Mynas imaginary "we won eve" story I think I will slit my wrists Majesta - Dont know much with the exception of the inconsistent German ****** Rest - Pets, will merge or die like the rest of the pets within a year, no interest in them and no interest in flying with them even if we get a decent FC from our alliance running the show.
You would think with 60k people there would be a good % decent, now im not one to pick faults I have adapted to the mass æcloakÆ whine, the ælagÆ whine (which is pretty ironic), the æXX is in my ratting placeÆ in NC without even emo raging once.
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Orion GUardian
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.08 19:33:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Vheri Kai'or lookit dat troll.
NC=a mutual defence pact originally formed in response to BoB's aggression, now it is essentially a self-perpetuating beast and is likely too strong on its home turf to ever be destroyed. folks claim it posseses 60k odd members, but then again folks claim a lot of things. it has a relatively small core of genuinely good pvpers backed up by an astonishingly large force of what amounts to "militia" who are distinctly average in ability.
SC=dead
DRF= a bloc of historically very competant and powerful alliances, spawned from the venerable Red Alliance. probably not at its strongest currently, but is certainly a fully capable coalition. gets castigated for macro's and RMT (whether its true or not i refuse to comment on)
IT=a 3rd rate powerbloc cooped up in delve and fountain. about the extent of their power projection lately has been to take HED and then gift it to INIT as a token offering of friendship. INIT may or may not be considered part of this bloc depending on who you talk to. if they are they should probably be considered the stronger partner.
stainwagon: historically a relatively minor but perversely indestructible powerbloc, recently enhanced somewhat by the addition of previous powerplayers RED overlord and -A- to their numbers (as i understand it)
"alliance" blocs:
NCDOT=triumvirate mark something or other. they finally got bored of "farming" pure blind so moved south. since the first MAX cmpaign they have been of little real importance, other than making sure MH didnt completely slide into irrelevance via the medium of scaring the incomprehensibly terrible players away from them.
PL=raep engines. a considerable force multiplier to whosoever can afford them. recently provided the DRF much assistance in killing ATLAS and routing -A-. currently chastising NC ratting supercaps, amongst other things.
psuedoblocs.
current provibloc=non invasion treaties abound. only kept from internecine ~goodfites~ by CVA
I think that is quite an acurate descritpion. BTW I am curious when they outsourced CAOD to GD ^^
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Soma Khan
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.08 19:50:00 -
[51]
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Soma Khan
Originally by: baltec1
My point stands though. That area of space is more packed with macro golems than any other part of space.
that's the thing though, you did not make any point
I speak from experience. I have been all over eve and just like there are more macro miners in ice blets there are more macro ratters in the drone lands.
on the internets your "experience" is irrelevant without proof __
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Angry Dogs
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Posted - 2010.11.08 19:59:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Soma Khan
I speak from experience. I have been all over eve and just like there are more macro miners in ice blets there are more macro ratters in the drone lands.
on the internets your "experience" is irrelevant without proof
Perhaps if you went and got a bit of experience yourself then you would have all the proof you need. The people who live out there all know whats going on, its not hard to spot.
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Soma Khan
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.08 21:53:00 -
[53]
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Soma Khan
I speak from experience. I have been all over eve and just like there are more macro miners in ice blets there are more macro ratters in the drone lands.
on the internets your "experience" is irrelevant without proof
Perhaps if you went and got a bit of experience yourself then you would have all the proof you need. The people who live out there all know whats going on, its not hard to spot.
this sounds like a personal problem. good day __
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Mmm Insane
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.09 01:22:00 -
[54]
Originally by: OC 2av2 I am confused when People asking me: to what coalition I belong - north or south?
Honestly: I don't know the difference between those. Does anybody have any links to read about those coalitions? What they are, what they do, what values they follow and so on?
  
North coalition and south coalition is merely a metaphor for daisy chain oral or daisy chain anal.
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Neyem Praetorius
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Posted - 2010.11.09 01:36:00 -
[55]
Originally by: True Sight
Originally by: Lady Parity it is hard to keep track of who is blue to NC with a new alliance joining their NAP Cancer every day
Actually, its kept public and visible to everyone at all times, and a pretty small list. Note that whilst people generally like throwing the derogatory term "pet" around, that normally implies renter-agreements or such. No one in the below list pays rent to anyone else.
Not strictly accurate. The NC doesn't regulate alliances' relation to their guests and there are *some* renters. Razor guest UNIT exists AFAIK primarily to house renters in branch (renters, not pets -- they aren't required to join combat ops at all) and I heard ME also does some renting.
As a long-time NC member this is the extent of my knowledge about any renters. Generally nobody in the coalition is referred to as a pet, and all our allies are held in high regard.
Except goons 
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Catheryn Martobi
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Posted - 2010.11.09 02:43:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Diomedes Calypso
Originally by: Lord Evangelian
Originally by: Kalasano Kamo North = bunch of napped alliances that everyone hates because everyone that tries to kill them fails South = IT alliance, who everyone hates because they use dev hax, also stain-empire and coven who are pretty cool bros East = russians, who everyone hates because they are russian West = who cares
basically
That can be considered nationalist, carful...
Maybe irony is tough to grasp between different cultures and languages, but clearly this guy is jesting with that russian line..
if it were "everyone hates because they are american" there's nothing wrong with that either.
Its only countries nationalities with inferiority complexes or traditionally descriminated against that seem not to be able to take that kind of barb Thrid world countries, or countries traditionally abused or exploited take that sort of thing sensitively.
The russians are a proud and advanced people.. poetry, technology, military conquest etc... they're not going to feel hurt by a little barb like that just as I think most of us americans are so self-confident that we could give a flying f if other people don't really appreciate our own ideals. I love other peoples ideas and I don't think we've got any licence to the truth, but I don't really care either if others approve of me though.
The next guy calling them cheaters crosses a different line. That cuts at honor, which is something all proud people hold dear.
I'm not sure which demographic your a part of, but in the younger generations in the States, sweeping generalization like that are considered humorous due to an obvious fallacy. Judging by how you hold honor and pride in such high esteem I'm going to guess it's an age gap. I can almost guarantee no one in their right mind consider every member of such a large group subscribe to a disagreeable trait.
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BIGthump
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Posted - 2010.11.09 02:52:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Double Dee the northern coalition is a group of well skilled players in both skill and fire power. basically the cream of the crop. the 'top gun' players of eve online if you will.
the southern coalition is pretty much the **** that is left over. in any game, there are winners and there are losers. these are the losers. it is too difficult to keep track of what alliances are part of the sc because right after they get curb stomped by the nc, they reroll new alliances hoping the fairness that was part of their previous alliance does not follow them. this of course never works out as you can see is such alliances like bob, tri and pl to name a few.
the sc has also been busted for cheating on many occasions. from use real life money to influence ccp developers to programs that make them not appear in local to the efamouse t20 incident where a developer spaded t2 bpos for them. this is the reason for the csm. to keep tabs on ccp and sc involvement. that is why the majority of the csm is headed by the nc with one representative from the sc and a token guy from high sec.
if you are looking for an alliance to join and are not some raving cheater and tremendously butt hurt all the time, then the nc is for you. if you make the mistake of siding with the sc, well, god help you. rest assured we will kick you teeth in and make you watch us back door your mom. no one ****s with us. we have dominated the game for as long as i can remember and unless you live under a rock, we are only getting better and better. which is why in assembly hall it is full of bitter butt hurt sc proposals.
the choice is yours.
You forgot to add that those who enjoy massive blobs (called by the NC "elite pvp fleets") will have a GREAT time in the nc. 
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Vheri Kai'or
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Posted - 2010.11.09 08:53:00 -
[58]
dyou want some cheese with your whine?
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Lady Parity
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.09 10:14:00 -
[59]
Northern Propaganda (Razor) is the best, not because it is good, because other than Goons and maybe Morsus Mihi no other alliance puts that much effort in internet spaceship game propaganda.
Pretty much the rest of the alliances in the game have this "we dont need prop, we are honourable lalala" which I think is stupid.
As for FCs, I have been in alot of fleets with alot of famous FCs (Not so much in the east) and for what itÆs worth they are all pretty decent, while they have their own strategy they are all decent in their own way.
Player base, NC dont focus, spend more time fantasizing about ruling 0.0 and 'killing Russians / Bob' than actually taking part in op, NC imo have the worst management skills in the whole game which is why so many of their æfriendsÆ have died from inner strife & boredom. Before an op you can almost guarantee for an hour you will have EFT warriors arguing which drives me insane, this tends to be a common thing in 0.0 anyway but worse in the north, so many times people are told to check the fleet fits yet still bring useless ships die and then moan.
As for social, Goons still say the same crap, this is why most decent people (that were still loyal to Goons after they failed hard in delve) went to other NC alliances. WI was one of the best social alliances but something went wrong after they lost Geminate, most people emo raged and like goons we are left with the generic trolls.
Social in southern alliances is just as bad, the obsession with not being Goons has left many alliances pretty dull, overall if a person wanted to join an alliance based on their social side, I would tell them to avoid 0.0 unless they enjoy facepalming OR join a roaming pure combat alliance like NCDOT.
People need to research before they post, the NC / PL drama you see in the north is staged, PL has a corp that has nothing but Rawr pumping out super caps and vice versa, thats like USA and UK having a war, ignore the æcombatÆ it will be over when NC is ok with people ratting again, because not showing up to op and ratting is BAD, PL (NC puppets) will fix that
So heres an easy way to figure out which alliance is best for you.
If you want to be surrounded by kids with ADHD spamming generic old crap join WI or Goons. If you want to be in a hyperactive alliance that is pretty entertaining (as much as I hate admitting) join TEST, they seem to have gotten most of fun players tbh. If you want to join a no pvp (no blobbing doesnt count), no combat alliance, join any other NC alliances. If you want a roaming alliance which travel alot, join NCDOT, PL and maybe Hydra (no idea what they are doing these days), but be prepared to be ridiculed as experience is necessary and in PL expect your strings to be pulled by NC. Major alliances such as WN, Solar, IT, ROL etc have a nice mix of everything. Unless you dont have experience I wouldnt advise ever joining ANY pet alliance, due to bad management and yes this includes Mostly Useless
Thats all :)
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.09 11:18:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Double Dee the northern coalition is a group of well skilled players in both skill and fire power. basically the cream of the crop. the 'top gun' players of eve online if you will.
the southern coalition is pretty much the **** that is left over. in any game, there are winners and there are losers. these are the losers. it is too difficult to keep track of what alliances are part of the sc because right after they get curb stomped by the nc, they reroll new alliances hoping the fairness that was part of their previous alliance does not follow them. this of course never works out as you can see is such alliances like bob, tri and pl to name a few.
the sc has also been busted for cheating on many occasions. from use real life money to influence ccp developers to programs that make them not appear in local to the efamouse t20 incident where a developer spaded t2 bpos for them. this is the reason for the csm. to keep tabs on ccp and sc involvement. that is why the majority of the csm is headed by the nc with one representative from the sc and a token guy from high sec.
if you are looking for an alliance to join and are not some raving cheater and tremendously butt hurt all the time, then the nc is for you. if you make the mistake of siding with the sc, well, god help you. rest assured we will kick you teeth in and make you watch us back door your mom. no one ****s with us. we have dominated the game for as long as i can remember and unless you live under a rock, we are only getting better and better. which is why in assembly hall it is full of bitter butt hurt sc proposals.
the choice is yours.
lol  However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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OneOneZeroOne
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Posted - 2010.11.09 12:42:00 -
[61]
As a grunt in a former SC alliance, IMO the catalyst for the SC's death was the failure that was our war against the north.
SC alliances were supposed to be working together but some didn't share coms or intel. We spent time and isk moving our s*** north and then...nothing. No direction, just 'what shall we do now then?'
Having proved ourselves ineffectual, morale went down and 'home defence' became 'dock up and let someone else deal with it'. Good players started drifting away or not logging in and the failcasades began.
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Amsterdam Conversations
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Posted - 2010.11.09 13:42:00 -
[62]
Originally by: OneOneZeroOne As a grunt in a former SC alliance, IMO the catalyst for the SC's death was the failure that was our war against the north.
SC alliances were supposed to be working together but some didn't share coms or intel. We spent time and isk moving our s*** north and then...nothing. No direction, just 'what shall we do now then?'
Having proved ourselves ineffectual, morale went down and 'home defence' became 'dock up and let someone else deal with it'. Good players started drifting away or not logging in and the failcasades began.
The "kill the NC" or "MAX 2" disaster was simply caused by the giant egos coming with those alliances. IT/Molle still run around with the BoB elite mentality, Atlas simply had no leadership/no direction, -A- ran around with their elite-pvp mentality even though they sucked pretty hard (not saying they sucked, but they were not as good as they believed they were).
While Initiative/ROL/d00m were doing the guerilla warfare and IT fielded the numbers for the western part of the invasion, Atlas and -A- simply got steamrolled by the sheer blob power of the NC (before you call me the generic NC-blob whiner, go check the battles).
When Atlas and -A- got ****ed off by the constant dying, they just decided to leave (which was within reason imo). Molle, being an egoistic ****tard, seeing himself outblobbing/beating the "NC" in the western parts (couldn't call MH an opponent tbh), tried to make everyone believe that Atlas/-A- leaving were the reason everything failed.
H-W put a simple end to the campaign, showing everyone the state of the servers and the state of the NC.
The NC didn't show any skill in MAX 2, neither did the so-called SC.
H-W, which could have been the deciding battle of tides turning, ended with a cluster**** and a turkey shoot for the NC. Would have been interesting to see what would have happened if all those supercaps/caps/bs hadn't been forced to log off in bubbles.
This also had some positive effects though. I've never seen the map this active before. The whole south is shaking, the north became a kraken reaching around half of the map, so everything is in constant war. Before this, it simply was north vs. south, with russians watching that mating.
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Zaboth Garadath
Amarr Ore Extraction Corporation
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Posted - 2010.11.09 14:22:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Zaboth Garadath on 09/11/2010 14:27:11 Edited by: Zaboth Garadath on 09/11/2010 14:25:22 I'm not sure where all this 'There are more macros in the north than the drones regions' is coming from.
When I was part of the NC, All the alliances I knew of and lived with had strict anti-macro policies.
For example, in our alliance, if we suspected anyone of macro ratting, we would ask their CEO permission to kill them. Once we confirmed they were macroing & gained permission from their CEO, we killed & podded the macro & kicked him from the alliance.
That was always fun. 
Edit: Although there were a ton of neut macro ratters in Venal... _____________________________________________
'If you really want to make someone hate you, explain to them, logically and politely, why they are wrong' - J. Baylock |

LittleTerror
Dashavatara
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Posted - 2010.11.09 14:28:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Double Dee the northern coalition is a group of well skilled players in both skill and fire power. basically the cream of the crop. the 'top gun' players of eve online if you will.
the southern coalition is pretty much the **** that is left over. in any game, there are winners and there are losers. these are the losers. it is too difficult to keep track of what alliances are part of the sc because right after they get curb stomped by the nc, they reroll new alliances hoping the fairness that was part of their previous alliance does not follow them. this of course never works out as you can see is such alliances like bob, tri and pl to name a few.
the sc has also been busted for cheating on many occasions. from use real life money to influence ccp developers to programs that make them not appear in local to the efamouse t20 incident where a developer spaded t2 bpos for them. this is the reason for the csm. to keep tabs on ccp and sc involvement. that is why the majority of the csm is headed by the nc with one representative from the sc and a token guy from high sec.
if you are looking for an alliance to join and are not some raving cheater and tremendously butt hurt all the time, then the nc is for you. if you make the mistake of siding with the sc, well, god help you. rest assured we will kick you teeth in and make you watch us back door your mom. no one ****s with us. we have dominated the game for as long as i can remember and unless you live under a rock, we are only getting better and better. which is why in assembly hall it is full of bitter butt hurt sc proposals.
the choice is yours.
Didn't read.
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Zoe Alarhun
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Posted - 2010.11.09 14:53:00 -
[65]
Who are PL ?
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Lady Parity
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.11.09 15:02:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Zoe Alarhun Who are PL ?
PL are a group of PvP players under various corps, who are mercs I guess but not to NC who have a corp in their alliance building supercaps for PL in return for them todo NCs dirty work
They are also responsible for much entertaining cheats such as the sphere protocol which targeted enemy (but not NC) macro ratters.
PL like to hot drop with supercaps and seem to be the only alliance that has the balls to drop, but with a spy in every alliance it makes their hot drops risk free.
Ideally ran by Shamis or Shadoo I guess but since NC constructs their supercaps and gives them orders it makes them Vuk Lau their leader.
Oh and they are only attacking in the north to prevent NC ratters from ratting and force them into fleet, typical NC
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mmmPork
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Posted - 2010.11.09 15:03:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Double Dee the northern coalition is a group of well skilled players in both skill and fire power. basically the cream of the crop. the 'top gun' players of eve online if you will.
the southern coalition is pretty much the **** that is left over. in any game, there are winners and there are losers. these are the losers. it is too difficult to keep track of what alliances are part of the sc because right after they get curb stomped by the nc, they reroll new alliances hoping the fairness that was part of their previous alliance does not follow them. this of course never works out as you can see is such alliances like bob, tri and pl to name a few.
the sc has also been busted for cheating on many occasions. from use real life money to influence ccp developers to programs that make them not appear in local to the efamouse t20 incident where a developer spaded t2 bpos for them. this is the reason for the csm. to keep tabs on ccp and sc involvement. that is why the majority of the csm is headed by the nc with one representative from the sc and a token guy from high sec.
if you are looking for an alliance to join and are not some raving cheater and tremendously butt hurt all the time, then the nc is for you. if you make the mistake of siding with the sc, well, god help you. rest assured we will kick you teeth in and make you watch us back door your mom. no one ****s with us. we have dominated the game for as long as i can remember and unless you live under a rock, we are only getting better and better. which is why in assembly hall it is full of bitter butt hurt sc proposals.
the choice is yours.
You're a real winner. I dare say you OWN the entire internetz now! In fact... I will leave my alliance and go cry in a corner for all the years to come, as the pain of getting owned so hard by your post will leave me permanently scarred.
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Vheri Kai'or
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Posted - 2010.11.09 15:48:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Lady Parity
Originally by: Zoe Alarhun Who are PL ?
PL are a group of PvP players under various corps, who are mercs I guess but not to NC who have a corp in their alliance building supercaps for PL in return for them todo NCs dirty work
They are also responsible for much entertaining cheats such as the sphere protocol which targeted enemy (but not NC) macro ratters.
PL like to hot drop with supercaps and seem to be the only alliance that has the balls to drop, but with a spy in every alliance it makes their hot drops risk free.
Ideally ran by Shamis or Shadoo I guess but since NC constructs their supercaps and gives them orders it makes them Vuk Lau their leader.
Oh and they are only attacking in the north to prevent NC ratters from ratting and force them into fleet, typical NC
christ you really are a butthurt raging bitter*** aint you?
did NC boot or kill whatever alliance you belonged to? is that why?
and you know you can get creams to soothe this kinda thing. anusol is a good one.
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