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Konoch Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.11.13 00:16:00 - [61] Originally by: Black Dranzer The Noctis isn't coming until the third patch? It's a texture recolor and a few data file edits, what the hell would take 2 months? Its more than that. Retexturing and Rendering can be a painful process. They're adding BPC's BPO's to ORE facilites (Thats more work than you might think) you also have to make sure of the stats of the blueprints to be online with ships of that class. And in this case when creating a ship designed to take the place of destroyers it has to above all else be done right. To do everything they've done since they've announced (which wasnt all that long ago in terms of something like this) If they've got the thing ready to launch by November it's a pretty big deal. Jan's more in line with what i had been thinking for that ship to be honest.
Shaalira D'arc	Posted - 2010.11.13 00:29:00 - [62] Originally by: CCP Explorer Noctis: "Signs point to yes". So not only is the Noctis a dedicated salvage ship, but it also serves as a magic 8-ball when spun in the hangar? Interesting choice, CCP. Not what I would have gone for as the role bonus, but it's certainly novel.
Mayham Jack Caldari Forever Eternal Star Industries Mystic Dawn Alliance	Posted - 2010.11.13 00:33:00 - [63] We all know its going to be the annual shuttle that sits in our hangers to collect dust untill we put up a contract a couple years later and get 20 or so mill from it
Obsidian Hawk RONA Legion	Posted - 2010.11.13 02:19:00 - [64] Honestly I am still hoping for t3 frigs ship trails and the old cyno effect back. And or JOVE SHIPS!!
Koronakesh Amarr Ba.theen Aljannatal Asaakitah Celestial Imperative	Posted - 2010.11.13 02:53:00 - [65] There's a part of me that's genuinely concerned about CCP using "Christmas Surprise" to describe a patch release...
Ai Mei Starfish Operating Syndicate	Posted - 2010.11.13 03:01:00 - [66] NUKE IT FROM ORBIT!!!!
Myronik	Posted - 2010.11.13 11:57:00 - [67] You all forgot that EVE have sound) Maybe this will be sound fix? Freezing warp gate sound, stupid amarr station sounds, long voice notifications. Oh please Or maybe long-awaited Drake nerf? Sounds great
Jennifer Starling Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.13 15:40:00 - [68] Originally by: CCP Explorer The 1st release contains a collection of player requests we have been working on alongside the main expansion features and that we could easily extract from the expansion code base. I wonder if there's anything substantial in the 1st 'release' which isn't actually bugfixes and some UI improvements??
Ceq Lysander Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.11.13 17:53:00 - [69] Originally by: Ai Mei NUKE IT FROM ORBIT!!!! "It's the only way to be sure."
Spurty Caldari D00M. Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2010.11.13 18:14:00 - [70] going to make a back up of my BOOT.INI then Hoppit!


CCP Explorer	Posted - 2010.11.13 18:17:00 - [71] Originally by: Jennifer Starling Originally by: CCP Explorer The 1st release contains a collection of player requests we have been working on alongside the main expansion features and that we could easily extract from the expansion code base. I wonder if there's anything substantial in the 1st 'release' which isn't actually bugfixes and some UI improvements?? The dev blog from CCP Zulu has the details. In addition we are changing the real missiles used by fighter bombers into missile effects (it's mentioned in the dev blog as "fighter bomber missile visual effects changes", which is only a part of the story), which will be a huge anti-lag boost for large fleet fights. This should hopefully be the final nail in the coffin of the unholy trinity of Dominion lag (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye). Then I talked to a lot of people on Friday to find out the status of the Noctis and it now looks likely that it will be included in the 1st release. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games


CCP Explorer	Posted - 2010.11.13 18:18:00 - [72] Originally by: Spurty going to make a back up of my BOOT.INI then No need, I already have yours. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2010.11.13 20:53:00 - [73] Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye). Can't wait to see the feedback from this. Originally by: CCP Explorer Then I talked to a lot of people on Friday to find out the status of the Noctis and it now looks likely that it will be included in the 1st release. \o/
Jennifer Starling Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.13 21:04:00 - [74] Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 13/11/2010 21:04:29 Originally by: CCP Explorer The dev blog from CCP Zulu has the details. Originally by: CCP Zulu November release (Precursor?) We have a few options for contained changes we can put out in a beefy mini-expansion in November that may include (but are not limited to): * 80 new story line courier missions * Rocket balancing * Tech 2 ammo balancing * Adding faction ships to the market * Fighter bomber missile visual effects changes * Anti-aliasing support * Window resizing, camera offset * Meta-item indicator icons * UI optimization to contract delivery filtering * Cargo can now be dragged to hangar by dropping on Neocom * Toggling probes in overview * POS gunners now receive notifications about control towers under attack * Sorting deliveries according to distance in jumps or regional locations * Unique icons for Microwarpdrives and Afterburners Rocket balancing!!!!!
Starlight Twilight	Posted - 2010.11.13 21:57:00 - [75] Originally by: Ceq Lysander Originally by: Ai Mei NUKE IT FROM ORBIT!!!! "It's the only way to be sure." I would fire up DOOM or Duke Nukem Star Light Star bright, The first star I see tonight, I wish I may, I wish I might, Have the wish I wish tonight. I wish for chocolate!
BeanBagKing Terra Incognita Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2010.11.13 22:51:00 - [76] Originally by: CCP Explorer Then I talked to a lot of people on Friday to find out the status of the Noctis and it now looks likely that it will be included in the 1st release. \o/
Konoch Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.11.13 22:57:00 - [77] Quote: (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye). I could rant here. I really could. But it isnt worth my time. CCP wants us to stop using the drake? Perform the nerf the entire game is expecting and relegate them to the Myrmidon's status as a useless battlecruiser.
Kaltooth Amarr	Posted - 2010.11.13 23:15:00 - [78] Edited by: Kaltooth on 13/11/2010 23:15:34 Originally by: CCP Explorer In addition we are changing the real missiles used by fighter bombers into missile effects (it's mentioned in the dev blog as "fighter bomber missile visual effects changes", which is only a part of the story), which will be a huge anti-lag boost for large fleet fights. This should hopefully be the final nail in the coffin of the unholy trinity of Dominion lag (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye). Ummm, according to Chronotis, they are launching real missiles again. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1401431&page=6#163 Or is it using missile damage calcs at launch now and not running missile flight simulations?
Dr Lebroi	Posted - 2010.11.14 00:02:00 - [79] In addition we are changing the real missiles used by fighter bombers into missile effects (it's mentioned in the dev blog as "fighter bomber missile visual effects changes", which is only a part of the story), which will be a huge anti-lag boost for large fleet fights. Will you eventually do the same thing for drones too?
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2010.11.14 04:18:00 - [80] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Well, if you have some people telling to take longer and others telling you to hurry up, I'd say you've found a reasonable compromise. Just be careful about applying the "if everyone's complaining, you're doing something right" heuristic ;) -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]

Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2010.11.14 04:21:00 - [81] Originally by: Dr Lebroi In addition we are changing the real missiles used by fighter bombers into missile effects (it's mentioned in the dev blog as "fighter bomber missile visual effects changes", which is only a part of the story), which will be a huge anti-lag boost for large fleet fights. Will you eventually do the same thing for drones too? And the rest of the missiles too. I mean why ask alliances to not use a perfectly good ship because of missile related lag when they could just apply the same fix to all missiles?
Fortune Taker Caldari	Posted - 2010.11.14 04:43:00 - [82] dear god people, do you realize you are forgetting the biggest whine after the trinity improvement they are bringing back the pleasure hub stations for christmas FT if you see this you have read too far
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2010.11.14 05:18:00 - [83] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Jennifer Starling Originally by: CCP Explorer The 1st release contains a collection of player requests we have been working on alongside the main expansion features and that we could easily extract from the expansion code base. I wonder if there's anything substantial in the 1st 'release' which isn't actually bugfixes and some UI improvements?? The dev blog from CCP Zulu has the details. In addition we are changing the real missiles used by fighter bombers into missile effects (it's mentioned in the dev blog as "fighter bomber missile visual effects changes", which is only a part of the story), which will be a huge anti-lag boost for large fleet fights. This should hopefully be the final nail in the coffin of the unholy trinity of Dominion lag (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye). Then I talked to a lot of people on Friday to find out the status of the Noctis and it now looks likely that it will be included in the 1st release. Ok, fix the Ferox, Eagle and Rails and we'll stop using Drakes. Kktxbye.
Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers BAT PHONE	Posted - 2010.11.14 08:32:00 - [84] Well, CCP. Consider my faith in you partially restored. Now remains only to deliver on excellence.
Gainremi	Posted - 2010.11.14 08:33:00 - [85] Originally by: Soporo Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Jennifer Starling Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye). Ok, fix the Ferox, Eagle and Rails and we'll stop using Drakes. Kktxbye. WTS Joke Comprehension for 1 ISK.
Alyth Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.11.14 13:10:00 - [86] Originally by: Soporo Ok, fix the Ferox, Eagle and Rails and we'll stop using Drakes. Kktxbye. Ferox and Eagle are fine, it's hybrids in general that suck. Rails should be the highest damaging long ranged turrets like blasters are for short range (just about). I mean they suck to fit on any ship that uses them, they use both cap and ammo and they fail to hit the broad side of many barns as it is already, wheres the harm in actually wanting to give people a viable reason to fit them over tachs and 1400s?

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2010.11.14 16:37:00 - [87] Originally by: Kaltooth Originally by: CCP Explorer In addition we are changing the real missiles used by fighter bombers into missile effects (it's mentioned in the dev blog as "fighter bomber missile visual effects changes", which is only a part of the story), which will be a huge anti-lag boost for large fleet fights. This should hopefully be the final nail in the coffin of the unholy trinity of Dominion lag (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye). Ummm, according to Chronotis, they are launching real missiles again. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1401431&page=6#163 Or is it using missile damage calcs at launch now and not running missile flight simulations? No, I checked today and the fighter bombers will not be using real missiles anymore. Instead they will be using a damage effect and the visual effect will be like a missile. Originally the plan was to use a turret-like damage effect and damage calculations but after a review it was decided to go with a missile-like damage effect and damage calculations. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games


CCP Explorer	Posted - 2010.11.14 16:38:00 - [88] Originally by: Dr Lebroi In addition we are changing the real missiles used by fighter bombers into missile effects (it's mentioned in the dev blog as "fighter bomber missile visual effects changes", which is only a part of the story), which will be a huge anti-lag boost for large fleet fights. Will you eventually do the same thing for drones too? Drones have never used missiles. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Brian Ballsack	Posted - 2010.11.14 16:45:00 - [89] Edited by: Brian Ballsack on 14/11/2010 16:45:28 Originally by: Soporo Ok, fix the Ferox, Eagle and Rails and we'll stop using Drakes. Kktxbye. rofl sucker
Bobbee Sephora	Posted - 2010.11.14 17:16:00 - [90] Originally by: CCP ExplorerNo, I checked today and the fighter bombers will not be using real missiles anymore. Instead they will be using a damage effect and the visual effect will be like a missile. Originally the plan was to use a turret-like damage effect and damage calculations but after a review it was decided to go with a missile-like damage effect and damage calculations.[/quote Maybe the same theory and practice could be used to 'fix' the Drakes... Just sayin...



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