I see, so you all jetcan mined, none of you actually sat in a roid field and mined for 15 minute with 17199 m3 of ore in your cargo. Oh and macks have gone from 80 mill to 257 mill

I see, so you all jetcan mined, none of you actually sat in a roid field and mined for 15 minute with 17199 m3 of ore in your cargo. Oh and macks have gone from 80 mill to 257 mill

MINERS WERE DECEIVED by promo for the INFERNO RELEASE !

They promoted this new release as an IMPROVEMENT for MINING, but...
CCP SHRUNK THE SIZE OF HULK CARGO HOLDS FROM ~1000+ to ~350k.
HULK PILOTS cannot even keep replacement sets of mining lasers in their Cargo Holds, anymore.

HULK is now essentially WORTHLESS for multi-purpose mining.
There is no reason to train for HULK, anymore, imho.

IMHO, this will be remembered as one of the biggest nerfs in the history of EvE.

Who would ever even want to buy a HULK, anymore?
It doesn't even have HOLD big enough for the MINING CRYSTALS!
Oh, wai... it's ALSO supposed to MINE STUFF? OMG OMG OMG.

But, fear not,... YES, they buffed the smaller versions so you can now go into combat with your SKIFF and MACKINAW.
HA HA HA - I get the joke. But, it's a cruel joke for those who earn isk by mining.

Time to SELL YOUR MINING CHAR!
[Or, I guess you could buy a MACK and improve it with some T/P TECH.]

BAH, HUMBUG!
So much time WASTED in training up for the NOW WORTHLESS HULKS!

Wow, ok. So if you want the marginally better yield of the Hulk then jetcan it and have a hauler. If you want to solo mine then use the Mack. No reason to be so over dramatic about it. Hulks have better yield but you have to haul to make it work. It's a change, you adapt.

For me personally, I have always jetcanned so it really doesn't matter.

Really?

Really?

Um yeah, what did you do - cram in cargo expander rigs which then lowered your EHP all in the fear of getting flipped? So you can either lose a can of ore valued at 5-6M or you can make your 270M ship weaker and increase the chances of it getting spaced.

You obviously did not read/check what the new setup is for mining barges and exhumers.

Profurer/Skiff is now the king of tanky mining.

Retriever/Mack is now the king of cargo hold / afk mining.

Covetor/Hulk is (still) the king of Yield. It's meant to be used in large groups with an orca to provide caro space. and/or haulers to move the ore.

You want cargo hold, go for a mack, you want yield, go for a hulk, it has more yield than anything, and now also for ice mining and mercoxit mining. You just have to have a hauler to move your piles of ore.

not a nerf, definitely a boost, as they all also got increased ehp. Just learn how to use the new setups.. and if you're mining in 3 mining ships, you might want to consider using an orca and 2 hulks then, or 3 macks if you really want the cargo space.

Well it looks like my playing days are over, The Hulk has finally been nerfed. Max Ore cargo 8,500 m3 cant expand it any bigger
so when my 3 accounts expire it will be goodbye eve. Well done ccp

So sad to see you go. Can I haz ur stuff??

OK, so now I get it, but I still don't like it.
I was really pissed off because I couldn't undock (due to being overloaded 2-3x of cargo capacity just because of my standard assortment of MINING CRYSTALS).

Now I see that ALL these ships now have GREATLY REDUCED CARGO HOLDs, so you can't undock with a standard set of MINING CRYSTALS. This "upgrade" forces you to explore first, find your spot, and then go back to load one or two sets of mining crystals (rather than your full kit bag of mining crystals).

Instead of a decent cargo hold space for the mining crystals AND ore, you an "itty bitty" cargo hold and some larger "ore holds" for ore only.
The new cargo hold won't even hold a full six pack of beer. Forget about taking any smokes or exotic dancers out there!

In other words, null sec miners will be wasting a LOT of time docking and undocking to change their mining laser crystals.
This still sounds like a NERF to me.