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Juan Sezole Foxridge	Posted - 2010.11.29 02:34:00 - [31] Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga Edited by: Suiginryou Hitaiga on 29/11/2010 01:08:14 Originally by: Juan Sezole The tears, they taste sooooo sweet .. and are low fat low carb!! So it's all about griefing, after all. sighs I wonder why all the things stupid, inconsiderate and just plainly indecent in other MMOs are so strongly encouraged and supported in eve. And this is why Little Kitty Online is still going strong. Welcome to the cold harsh reality that is an adult game, if its too much for your poor constitution might I suggest he many Elf pron clones out there as it appears a real game is beyond you Kthxs bi
Vladimir Norkoff Income Redistribution Service	Posted - 2010.11.29 03:17:00 - [32] Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga But well, sirs and ladies from hulks, why not use Concord for your defense? Step 1: create an alternative account Step 2: fly it to the mining area Step 3: switch to your main account, drop a jet with 1 Veldspar inside Step 4: attack that jet from alternative account Step 5: dig up any amount of rocks for the following 15 minutes Step 6: repeat steps 2, 3 and 4 until account is no longer usable. Step 7: repeat steps 1 through 6. Rinse, repeat, enjoy. Because miners recycling alts is never an exploit? Taxman IX: Risky Venture
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.11.29 05:11:00 - [33] Time to dust off the ol' Mining Mael!! And with Veld selling for 8 isk apiece, it is worth mining these days
Katarlia Simov Minmatar Cowboys From Hell	Posted - 2010.11.29 05:53:00 - [34] Edited by: Katarlia Simov on 29/11/2010 05:54:58 Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga Edited by: Suiginryou Hitaiga on 29/11/2010 01:21:33 Originally by: Hra Neuvosto Originally by: Leslie e'Evob How many times can you suicide a Hulk before your sec.status is too low to do it again? Recycling characters for something like this is, after all, an exploit... No matter how low your sec gets, you can still suicide hulks. It's not really an issue. I think it's about entering the hisec, 'cause miners in lowsec and 0.0 are too well-protected to be of any fun to a griefer. But well, sirs and ladies from hulks, why not use Concord for your defense? Step 1: create an alternative account Step 2: fly it to the mining area Step 3: switch to your main account, drop a jet with 1 Veldspar inside Step 4: attack that jet from alternative account Step 5: dig up any amount of rocks for the following 15 minutes Step 6: repeat steps 2, 3 and 4 until account is no longer usable. Step 7: repeat steps 1 through 6. Rinse, repeat, enjoy. Nevertheless, even with these precautions, some protection is in order to survive the alpha. Confirming that recycling alts is an exploit no matter who does it. Also this doesn't work. CONCORD only attack when you have GCC, which is different from low security status or anything else. It has been suggested that 'calling' concord early might increase reaction times, but since getting ganked only takes one shot that also doesn't make much difference. Having a bajillion concord has also been known to lag out your grid meaning that you have even less chance to get away from a gank. So have fun with that... Also, GL to all gankers, and much lubs to Ms Boson once again
The Crushah Gallente The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.11.29 05:56:00 - [35] Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga Edited by: Suiginryou Hitaiga on 29/11/2010 01:21:33 Originally by: Hra Neuvosto Originally by: Leslie e'Evob How many times can you suicide a Hulk before your sec.status is too low to do it again? Recycling characters for something like this is, after all, an exploit... No matter how low your sec gets, you can still suicide hulks. It's not really an issue. I think it's about entering the hisec, 'cause miners in lowsec and 0.0 are too well-protected to be of any fun to a griefer. But well, sirs and ladies from hulks, why not use Concord for your defense? Step 1: create an alternative account Step 2: fly it to the mining area Step 3: switch to your main account, drop a jet with 1 Veldspar inside Step 4: attack that jet from alternative account Step 5: dig up any amount of rocks for the following 15 minutes Step 6: repeat steps 2, 3 and 4 until account is no longer usable. Step 7: repeat steps 1 through 6. Rinse, repeat, enjoy. Nevertheless, even with these precautions, some protection is in order to survive the alpha. Killing your own alt to draw Concord to a belt is considered an exploit. Youre only like the 300th person to suggest it and get shot down. Second, ive never had an NPC send me hate mail. When missions start doing that perhaps ill consider giving up suiciding.
Brynhilda Amarr Gun Metal Clones	Posted - 2010.11.29 07:07:00 - [36] I was too young to join in the previous Hulkageddon... ...But this time, I will make my claim in a glorious EVE tradition!!
Zaqar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2010.11.29 09:29:00 - [37] Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga So it's basically griefing, as I've gathered. By other games' definition of the word, yes. In Eve terms, it's just spacehips getting blown up.
Dorn Val	Posted - 2010.11.29 09:31:00 - [38] Originally by: Zaqar Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga So it's basically griefing, as I've gathered. By other games' definition of the word, yes. In Eve terms, it's just any other day. Fixed that for ya
Damien McCandless Caldari Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.11.29 09:42:00 - [39] Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga Everything I say is a big whinge I had a thought actually, caused by the wibblings of the above alt. Could Hulkageddon be considered a Wardec against all miners? If so, then the miners themselves are guilty of Mining During Wartime, a very serious breach of widely accepted Standards and Practice and thusly ALL MINERS, HULKS, RETRIEVERS, MINING FRIGATES, ORCAS etc etc should be considered targets of a New Eden-wide investigation. I shall enquire with the Chief Librarian to see where the IEEE stands in regards to this matter, but as mentioned by my learned friend earlier, we are available to supply all popcorn containment and tear-catching needs during this busy time of year. Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
Arwen Tyler	Posted - 2010.11.29 10:18:00 - [40] Originally by: Damien McCandless [Could Hulkageddon be considered a Wardec against all miners? Not likely no, it's prob the best example of true piracy in Eve though.
Damien McCandless Caldari Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.11.29 10:21:00 - [41] Originally by: Arwen Tyler Originally by: Damien McCandless [Could Hulkageddon be considered a Wardec against all miners? Not likely no, it's prob the best example of true piracy in Eve though. Eh? What? I think you are mentally confused. "Piracy is a war-like act committed by private parties (not affiliated with any government) that engage in acts of robbery and/or criminal violence at sea." This is Internet SPACEships. There is no piracy in EvE. It has been scientifically proven. Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.11.29 10:33:00 - [42] Originally by: Damien McCandless Originally by: Arwen Tyler Originally by: Damien McCandless [Could Hulkageddon be considered a Wardec against all miners? Not likely no, it's prob the best example of true piracy in Eve though. Eh? What? I think you are mentally confused. "Piracy is a war-like act committed by private parties (not affiliated with any government) that engage in acts of robbery and/or criminal violence at sea." This is Internet SPACEships. There is no piracy in EvE. It has been scientifically proven. ECOTERRORISM!
Damien McCandless Caldari Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.11.29 10:42:00 - [43] Originally by: Helicity Boson ECOTERRORISM! Yes I think I can get behind that as a much better description. Plus, it means that these so-called Industrial Corps require an investigation into their poor Ecologicial Standards as well as their Health & Safety At Work Policies (which have always been lack-lustre at best). Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
celmi State War Academy	Posted - 2010.11.29 10:48:00 - [44] why do you post the date? why warn anyone, i might expect to see it on wiki leaks but just come out and announce the date like that, no pirate in thier right mind... is open for anyone to join? oh wait nvr mind.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.11.29 10:50:00 - [45] Originally by: celmi why do you post the date? why warn anyone, i might expect to see it on wiki leaks but just come out and announce the date like that, no pirate in thier right mind... is open for anyone to join? oh wait nvr mind. Because we have always done so, and miners still die by their thousands. At least they can't claim we did not warn them...
Meridith Akesia Tempest Legion Ghost Syndicate.	Posted - 2010.11.29 14:14:00 - [46] Originally by: Headerman it is worth mining these days Hahahaha. you funny guy.
Aerion Va'rr The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2010.11.29 15:46:00 - [47] I call it Poetic Justice... why not test the mettle of Solar Annihilation Ultra Doom Heavy Industries (or any of those other ridiculous indy/mining corp names).
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.11.29 16:30:00 - [48] Originally by: Helicity Boson Originally by: celmi why do you post the date? Because we have always done so, and miners still die by their thousands. Not only is this true, it's incredibly sad. The thing is, miners with a clue will dock up for a week and do something else, or at least be aligned and watch local if they really must mine. The people who get ganked during Hulkageddon are the macros (who don't care) and the stupid (who produce the emo tears sought after by the participants). There's no lack of warnings, either. I saw a mailing to my main's alliance the same day this thread went live. People fly around Eve telling people in Local what is happening. Some sit in the trade hubs and warn miners. Yet, people still get ganked. Why? Because they're just not that bright. I'm not going to argue the morality of Hulkageddon - people who suicide gank Hulks for laughs aren't exactly stellar members of society (in game). It is amusing however, and I encourage it for that reason. I'll be donating another Iteron full of stuff. The advanced notice is super nice, now I can actually put something fun together instead of toss in whatever crap I have at the last minute. Fix Rockets in ~~'08~~ ~~'09~~ ~~2010~~ ~~2011~~ 2012?!
Hideki Tsutomi	Posted - 2010.11.29 22:24:00 - [49] Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga Whining Because it's fun.
Rykuss	Posted - 2010.11.29 23:30:00 - [50] Originally by: Hra Neuvosto Originally by: Leslie e'Evob How many times can you suicide a Hulk before your sec.status is too low to do it again? Recycling characters for something like this is, after all, an exploit... No matter how low your sec gets, you can still suicide hulks. It's not really an issue. True, I see plenty of griefers with -10 sec status doing it at least ten times a day in hisec already. Seems pretty easy to me.
Deylithdra	Posted - 2010.11.30 01:08:00 - [51] Glorious comrades, I answer the call for this noble quest and pledge to join you as a participant. Forsooth, many a hulk shall kersplode by our combined Holy onslaught! Assuredly, I say unto you, that 3001 hulks shall be destroyed during this quest and their pilots will weep a vast ocean of delicious QQ. Huzzah! (That's right, I totally broke out a "forsooth")
Nox Vera	Posted - 2010.11.30 01:13:00 - [52] Edited by: Nox Vera on 30/11/2010 01:15:28 Edited by: Nox Vera on 30/11/2010 01:13:40 Originally by: Deylithdra Glorious comrades, I answer the call for this noble quest and pledge to join you as a participant. Forsooth, many a hulk shall kersplode by our combined Holy onslaught! Assuredly, I say unto you, that 3001 hulks shall be destroyed during this quest and their pilots will weep a vast ocean of delicious QQ. Huzzah! (That's right, I totally broke out a "forsooth") Well then. I guess I have to do it now too, just so I can out-hulk you. I wasn't doing anything with that sec status anyway. Er, I mean, verily, I shall on this that day prove that it is I, Sir Tanthius Vanter of Custuvaert, who art the true champion of Hulk slaying, and however many of these mighty beasts thou bringest down, I shall slay threefold. That hurt to type. Edit: Woops. Wrong character. Hrm.
Suiginryou Hitaiga Caldari	Posted - 2010.11.30 03:58:00 - [53] I guess the major problem is not about the gankers. They're mundane mindless yobs, mostly, can care less about this bunch. The main issue about the events like this one is broken resource gathering system, allowing to have all the minerals you might need without any mining at all, while mining is supposed to be the one and only source of raw materials to build ships. Not to mention promoting the macromining (hell, I might even join the next event to kick out some macroers' asses).
Tarsas Phage Viziam	Posted - 2010.11.30 05:59:00 - [54] Originally by: Nox Vera Edited by: Nox Vera on 30/11/2010 01:18:03 Er, I mean, verily, I shall on this that day prove that it is I, Sir Tanthius Vanter of Custuvaert, who art the true champion of Hulk slaying, and however many of these mighty beasts thou bringest down, I shall slay threefold. In before Herr Wilkus. But you've got moxy!
Damien McCandless Caldari Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.11.30 10:31:00 - [55] Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga I guess the major problem is not about the gankers. They're mundane mindless yobs, mostly, can care less about this bunch. The main issue about the events like this one is broken resource gathering system, allowing to have all the minerals you might need without any mining at all, while mining is supposed to be the one and only source of raw materials to build ships. Not to mention promoting the macromining (hell, I might even join the next event to kick out some macroers' asses). How tall are you!? Mining is not the "one and only source of raw materials". This is starting to sound like a troll post because of the mind-bending shallowness of all your statements. I was going to help you out by explaining the flaws in your arugments and how to actually survive Hulkageddon with an intact mining fleet, but instead I call SHINNANGHANS on you. How I wish you were a main, I'd come and petition for an officially sanctioned IEEE Investigation into what I can only assume are extremely bad corporate practices perpetuated by your corp. Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
Dannerkongen 1st Recon	Posted - 2010.11.30 10:45:00 - [56] veldspar was about 3.50 isk when hulkageddon started! now its at 2 what is it that u think u r accomplishing u guys r pussies!!! like sealclubbers!!
Shadow Mare	Posted - 2010.11.30 11:03:00 - [57] Originally by: Helicity Boson Originally by: celmi why do you post the date? why warn anyone ... Because we have always done so, and miners still die by their thousands. At least they can't claim we did not warn them... See!, no this is why I like you ( the organisers of this event), you provide a fair warning. This means the ones that will suffer are the stupid, the incompetent and the macros. In other words it hurts the idiots that the rest of us are sick of anyway. Hulkageddon, for the better class of griefer ( I am a carebear and in approve of this product/service )
Damien McCandless Caldari Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.11.30 11:25:00 - [58] Originally by: Shadow Mare Edited by: Shadow Mare on 30/11/2010 11:09:41 Originally by: Helicity Boson Originally by: celmi why do you post the date? why warn anyone ... Because we have always done so, and miners still die by their thousands. At least they can't claim we did not warn them... See!, no this is why I like you ( the organisers of this event), you provide a fair warning. This means the ones that will suffer are the stupid, the incompetent and the macros. In other words it hurts the idiots that the rest of us are sick of anyway. Hulkageddon, for the better class of griefer ( I am a carebear and I approve of this product/service ) ( edit: However apparently I cannot spell ) See, I always knew there were good miners out there. If you weren't a girl, I'd give you a big kiss! Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
Azishkra'elhykai Mizamel Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.11.30 12:09:00 - [59] Ooooh so the whisperings are true! Once the merchandise starts coming out from this, I'll have a looksee for potential prize donations... Stationery would be nice, as it means maybe the top three scorers would get something as opposed to just one person...
Suiginryou Hitaiga Caldari	Posted - 2010.11.30 12:29:00 - [60] Edited by: Suiginryou Hitaiga on 30/11/2010 12:30:51 Originally by: Damien McCandless How tall are you!? Fairly. Originally by: Damien McCandless Mining is not the "one and only source of raw materials". I know it isn't. But it's supposed to be. It's made for that state. Sorry if my language confused you (sorry, you never know how crappy it is unless you're misunderstood), I meant that mining system is designed to be the one and only source of raw materials. That it should be so. Nothing more. Originally by: Damien McCandless I was going to help you out by explaining the flaws in your arugments and how to actually survive Hulkageddon with an intact mining fleet, but instead I call SHINNANGHANS on you. The key word is "fleet". My only issue about Hulkageddon events is the outbreak of random ganks against solo miners, not only macroers, which usually work in groups. Big groups. Originally by: Damien McCandless How I wish you were a main, I'd come and petition for an officially sanctioned IEEE Investigation into what I can only assume are extremely bad corporate practices perpetuated by your corp. My corp's dead, I'm just too lazy to leave it for an npc corp.

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