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XenosisReaper
Rising Ashes Inc.
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.11.28 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: XenosisReaper on 28/11/2010 20:03:24
Edited by: XenosisReaper on 28/11/2010 19:51:32
MAN THE THRASHERS COMRADES, FOR GLORIOUS HULKAGEDDON, also all prizes go to "Oricalchum" (if in jita) otherwise to "Helicity Boson", you know you want to.
Helicity Khan has spoken. All hands to action stations. So Say We All.
fakeedit, yes this is legit.
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seany1212
The Scowling Men
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Posted - 2010.11.28 19:48:00 -
[2]
i fully endorse this service 
You guys make squeeky noises when you pop, and that's enough motivation as far as I'm concerned. |
Jenny Jihad
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.11.28 19:50:00 -
[3]
****  hulk
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.28 19:53:00 -
[4]
It is indeed true.
Hulkageddon 4: Feb. 2011
Send prizes to Helicity Boson
More details soon!
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2010.11.28 20:16:00 -
[5]
lolaggeddon!!! free market manipulation, best manipulation
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XenosisReaper
Rising Ashes Inc.
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.11.28 20:17:00 -
[6]
 Originally by: Herping yourDerp
lolaggeddon!!! free market manipulation, best manipulation
Guess what everyone who heard about this before the announcement have been doing?
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Aerion Va'rr
The Priesthood
The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.11.28 20:28:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
It is indeed true.
Hulkageddon 4: Feb. 2011
Send prizes to Helicity Boson
More details soon!
I fully endorse this product and/or service.
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Ronald Raygunn
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Posted - 2010.11.28 20:34:00 -
[8]
Oh god, again? *facepalm*
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.28 20:40:00 -
[9]
Hooray! 
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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SolusLunes
Caldari
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.28 20:44:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Ronald Raygunn
Oh god, again? *facepalm*
**** YEAH AGAIN
HEY WHO WON THE BEST TEARS AWARD FROM HG3 THAT **** NEVER ACTUALLY GOT ANNOUNCED
In other, related news, Mitnal was never here.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.28 21:47:00 -
[11]
Originally by: SolusLunes
Originally by: Ronald Raygunn
Oh god, again? *facepalm*
**** YEAH AGAIN
HEY WHO WON THE BEST TEARS AWARD FROM HG3 THAT **** NEVER ACTUALLY GOT ANNOUNCED
Most likely the same guy that won everything else 
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.28 22:06:00 -
[12]
can't remember anymore :/
I'd have to check my contract history on two accounts ~_~
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captain foivos
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Posted - 2010.11.28 22:09:00 -
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Even I'm not sure, and I was one of the judges...frankly, it was difficult to tell what were real tears and what tears another judge had sent in. But rest assured...there will be tears come February 2011. And now that I have a Minmatar alt I can participate to a much higher degree than before.
Jihad is upon is. Burn the infidels with the intensity of a thousand suns.
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
You won't see us coming until it's too late to do anything about it.
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2010.11.28 22:10:00 -
[14]
Originally by: XenosisReaper
Originally by: Herping yourDerp
lolaggeddon!!! free market manipulation, best manipulation
Guess what everyone who heard about this before the announcement have been doing?
u don't understand, i can finally get ready to offload my ships and modules, i was getting worried i would have to sell smart bombs sooner
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Suiginryou Hitaiga
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.28 22:11:00 -
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*facepaw*
What's the fun in beating up helpless miners? Maybe one of the hundred would be able to fight back, at best. No challenge, no adrenaline, just another boring chore. Seems I'd never understand the point of it.
Cleaning up macrominers? Meh. True macrominers will just shrug and use new hulks, they already got plenty in hangars waiting for this exact occasion; by the way, covetors are much more efficient in terms of income compared to the price of a ship and fitting. The only ones who'll suffer are the independant miners, for whom their Hulk is 30% of all the assets, if not more.
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Emo Dodo
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Posted - 2010.11.28 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
*facepaw*
What's the fun in beating up helpless miners? Maybe one of the hundred would be able to fight back, at best. No challenge, no adrenaline, just another boring chore. Seems I'd never understand the point of it.
Cleaning up macrominers? Meh. True macrominers will just shrug and use new hulks, they already got plenty in hangars waiting for this exact occasion; by the way, covetors are much more efficient in terms of income compared to the price of a ship and fitting. The only ones who'll suffer are the independant miners, for whom their Hulk is 30% of all the assets, if not more.
where you mine?
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Suiginryou Hitaiga
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.28 22:48:00 -
[17]
Scuelazyns usually. Sometimes, Muer. Why?
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dtyk
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Posted - 2010.11.28 23:06:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
*facepaw*
What's the fun in beating up helpless miners?
The profit, the explosions, and the occasional tears.
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Randall Floyd
Floyd Corp
Floyd Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.28 23:09:00 -
[19]
\o/
Floyd Alliance will be sponsoring a prize of a set of pre-fit suicide dessies and battleships again. Exact composition and prize criteria to be determined, but most likely something along the lines of "First to reach X Exhumer kills".
Thank you Helicity for bringing my favorite player driven event back! 
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.28 23:11:00 -
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btw, do not send any prizes to orichalcum, xeno is trying to make a buck off my event ;)
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Suiginryou Hitaiga
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.28 23:14:00 -
[21]
Originally by: dtyk
The profit, the explosions, and the occasional tears.
What profit? What explosions? lv3 mission will give you much more both in the same amount of time.
So it's basically griefing, as I've gathered.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.28 23:34:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Originally by: dtyk
The profit, the explosions, and the occasional tears.
What profit? What explosions? lv3 mission will give you much more both in the same amount of time.
So it's basically griefing, as I've gathered.
But the tears are severely lacking, unless you're the ninja salvager 
Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: FOl2TY8
I know that some people like to have voluntary periods of abstinence.
Yeah, I use that excuse too.
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Dracoknight
Gallente
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.11.28 23:56:00 -
[23]
IEEE ofcourse supply viewers with our branded popcorn.
IEEE, there for your popcorn needs 
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dtyk
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Posted - 2010.11.29 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Originally by: dtyk
The profit, the explosions, and the occasional tears.
What profit? What explosions? lv3 mission will give you much more both in the same amount of time.
So it's basically griefing, as I've gathered.
15 mins doing a level 3 mission: maybe 5 mil ISK.
15 mins in a belt with smartbombs and a salvager: 50-300 mil ISK depending on luck.
Also, I can't do lv3 missions
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Leslie e'Evob
Paramilitary Skanks
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Posted - 2010.11.29 00:38:00 -
[25]
Originally by: dtyk
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Originally by: dtyk
The profit, the explosions, and the occasional tears.
What profit? What explosions? lv3 mission will give you much more both in the same amount of time.
So it's basically griefing, as I've gathered.
15 mins doing a level 3 mission: maybe 5 mil ISK.
15 mins in a belt with smartbombs and a salvager: 50-300 mil ISK depending on luck.
Also, I can't do lv3 missions
You only play EVE for 15 minutes? That's weird, some people have spent years playing this game.
How many times can you suicide a Hulk before your sec.status is too low to do it again? Recycling characters for something like this is, after all, an exploit...
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Juan Sezole
Foxridge
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Posted - 2010.11.29 01:04:00 -
[26]
Edited by: Juan Sezole on 29/11/2010 01:04:43
Originally by: dtyk
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
*facepaw*
What's the fun in beating up helpless miners?
The profit, the explosions, and the occasional tears.
The tears, they taste sooooo sweet .. and are low fat low carb!!
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Suiginryou Hitaiga
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.29 01:06:00 -
[27]
Edited by: Suiginryou Hitaiga on 29/11/2010 01:08:14
Originally by: dtyk
15 mins doing a level 3 mission: maybe 5 mil ISK.
15 mins in a belt with smartbombs and a salvager: 50-300 mil ISK depending on luck.
You're forgetting the costs - both in ISK and time to clean up your SS, for the latter.
That's why hulkageddon is not permanently in effect, I think - because major griefers need to accumulate a certain amount of ships and isks for another killing spree first.
Originally by: dtyk
Also, I can't do lv3 missions
Then do lv4. You'll improve the standings, as well, instead of losing them and spending days after days to return them to normal.
Originally by: Juan Sezole
The tears, they taste sooooo sweet .. and are low fat low carb!!
So it's all about griefing, after all.
*sighs*
I wonder why all the things stupid, inconsiderate and just plainly indecent in other MMOs are so strongly encouraged and supported in eve.
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Hra Neuvosto
The 8th Order
BAT PHONE
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Posted - 2010.11.29 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Leslie e'Evob
How many times can you suicide a Hulk before your sec.status is too low to do it again? Recycling characters for something like this is, after all, an exploit...
No matter how low your sec gets, you can still suicide hulks. It's not really an issue.
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Suiginryou Hitaiga
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.29 01:15:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Hra Neuvosto
Originally by: Leslie e'Evob
How many times can you suicide a Hulk before your sec.status is too low to do it again? Recycling characters for something like this is, after all, an exploit...
No matter how low your sec gets, you can still suicide hulks. It's not really an issue.
I think it's about entering the hisec, 'cause miners in lowsec and 0.0 are too well-protected to be of any fun to a griefer.
But well, sirs and ladies from hulks, why not use Concord for your defense?
Step 1: create an alternative account
Step 2: fly it to the mining area
Step 3: switch to your main account, drop a jet with 1 Veldspar inside
Step 4: attack that jet from alternative account
Step 5: dig up any amount of rocks for the following 15 minutes
Step 6: repeat steps 2, 3 and 4 until account is no longer usable.
Step 7: repeat steps 1 though 6. Rinse, repeat, enjoy.
Nevertheless, even with these precautions, some protection is in order to survive the alpha.
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Triple Entendre
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Posted - 2010.11.29 01:23:00 -
[30]
Originally by: XenosisReaper
Helicity Khan has spoken. All hands to action stations. So Say We All.
SO SAY WE ALL!
Originally by: CCP Zulu
You're assuming I read threads before I turdpost in them :)
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Juan Sezole
Foxridge
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Posted - 2010.11.29 02:34:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Edited by: Suiginryou Hitaiga on 29/11/2010 01:08:14
Originally by: Juan Sezole
The tears, they taste sooooo sweet .. and are low fat low carb!!
So it's all about griefing, after all.
*sighs*
I wonder why all the things stupid, inconsiderate and just plainly indecent in other MMOs are so strongly encouraged and supported in eve.
And this is why Little Kitty Online is still going strong.
Welcome to the cold harsh reality that is an adult game, if its too much for your poor constitution might I suggest he many Elf pron clones out there as it appears a real game is beyond you
Kthxs bi
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2010.11.29 03:17:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
But well, sirs and ladies from hulks, why not use Concord for your defense?
Step 1: create an alternative account
Step 2: fly it to the mining area
Step 3: switch to your main account, drop a jet with 1 Veldspar inside
Step 4: attack that jet from alternative account
Step 5: dig up any amount of rocks for the following 15 minutes
Step 6: repeat steps 2, 3 and 4 until account is no longer usable.
Step 7: repeat steps 1 through 6. Rinse, repeat, enjoy.
Because miners recycling alts is never an exploit?
Taxman IX: Risky Venture
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Headerman
Minmatar
Metanoia.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.11.29 05:11:00 -
[33]
Time to dust off the ol' Mining Mael!!
And with Veld selling for 8 isk apiece, it is worth mining these days
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Katarlia Simov
Minmatar
Cowboys From Hell
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Posted - 2010.11.29 05:53:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Katarlia Simov on 29/11/2010 05:54:58
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Edited by: Suiginryou Hitaiga on 29/11/2010 01:21:33
Originally by: Hra Neuvosto
Originally by: Leslie e'Evob
How many times can you suicide a Hulk before your sec.status is too low to do it again? Recycling characters for something like this is, after all, an exploit...
No matter how low your sec gets, you can still suicide hulks. It's not really an issue.
I think it's about entering the hisec, 'cause miners in lowsec and 0.0 are too well-protected to be of any fun to a griefer.
But well, sirs and ladies from hulks, why not use Concord for your defense?
Step 1: create an alternative account
Step 2: fly it to the mining area
Step 3: switch to your main account, drop a jet with 1 Veldspar inside
Step 4: attack that jet from alternative account
Step 5: dig up any amount of rocks for the following 15 minutes
Step 6: repeat steps 2, 3 and 4 until account is no longer usable.
Step 7: repeat steps 1 through 6. Rinse, repeat, enjoy.
Nevertheless, even with these precautions, some protection is in order to survive the alpha.
Confirming that recycling alts is an exploit no matter who does it. Also this doesn't work. CONCORD only attack when you have GCC, which is different from low security status or anything else. It has been suggested that 'calling' concord early might increase reaction times, but since getting ganked only takes one shot that also doesn't make much difference. Having a bajillion concord has also been known to lag out your grid meaning that you have even less chance to get away from a gank. So have fun with that...
Also, GL to all gankers, and much lubs to Ms Boson once again
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The Crushah
Gallente
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.29 05:56:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Edited by: Suiginryou Hitaiga on 29/11/2010 01:21:33
Originally by: Hra Neuvosto
Originally by: Leslie e'Evob
How many times can you suicide a Hulk before your sec.status is too low to do it again? Recycling characters for something like this is, after all, an exploit...
No matter how low your sec gets, you can still suicide hulks. It's not really an issue.
I think it's about entering the hisec, 'cause miners in lowsec and 0.0 are too well-protected to be of any fun to a griefer.
But well, sirs and ladies from hulks, why not use Concord for your defense?
Step 1: create an alternative account
Step 2: fly it to the mining area
Step 3: switch to your main account, drop a jet with 1 Veldspar inside
Step 4: attack that jet from alternative account
Step 5: dig up any amount of rocks for the following 15 minutes
Step 6: repeat steps 2, 3 and 4 until account is no longer usable.
Step 7: repeat steps 1 through 6. Rinse, repeat, enjoy.
Nevertheless, even with these precautions, some protection is in order to survive the alpha.
Killing your own alt to draw Concord to a belt is considered an exploit. Youre only like the 300th person to suggest it and get shot down.
Second, ive never had an NPC send me hate mail. When missions start doing that perhaps ill consider giving up suiciding.
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Brynhilda
Amarr
Gun Metal Clones
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Posted - 2010.11.29 07:07:00 -
[36]
I was too young to join in the previous Hulkageddon...
...But this time, I will make my claim in a glorious EVE tradition!!
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.11.29 09:29:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
So it's basically griefing, as I've gathered.
By other games' definition of the word, yes. In Eve terms, it's just spacehips getting blown up.
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Dorn Val
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Posted - 2010.11.29 09:31:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Zaqar
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
So it's basically griefing, as I've gathered.
By other games' definition of the word, yes. In Eve terms, it's just any other day.
Fixed that for ya
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Damien McCandless
Caldari
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.11.29 09:42:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Everything I say is a big whinge
I had a thought actually, caused by the wibblings of the above alt.
Could Hulkageddon be considered a Wardec against all miners? If so, then the miners themselves are guilty of Mining During Wartime, a very serious breach of widely accepted Standards and Practice and thusly ALL MINERS, HULKS, RETRIEVERS, MINING FRIGATES, ORCAS etc etc should be considered targets of a New Eden-wide investigation.
I shall enquire with the Chief Librarian to see where the IEEE stands in regards to this matter, but as mentioned by my learned friend earlier, we are available to supply all popcorn containment and tear-catching needs during this busy time of year.
Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
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Arwen Tyler
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Posted - 2010.11.29 10:18:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Damien McCandless
[Could Hulkageddon be considered a Wardec against all miners?
Not likely no, it's prob the best example of true piracy in Eve though.
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Damien McCandless
Caldari
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.11.29 10:21:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Arwen Tyler
Originally by: Damien McCandless
[Could Hulkageddon be considered a Wardec against all miners?
Not likely no, it's prob the best example of true piracy in Eve though.
Eh? What?
I think you are mentally confused.
"Piracy is a war-like act committed by private parties (not affiliated with any government) that engage in acts of robbery and/or criminal violence at sea."
This is Internet SPACEships. There is no piracy in EvE. It has been scientifically proven.
Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.29 10:33:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Damien McCandless
Originally by: Arwen Tyler
Originally by: Damien McCandless
[Could Hulkageddon be considered a Wardec against all miners?
Not likely no, it's prob the best example of true piracy in Eve though.
Eh? What?
I think you are mentally confused.
"Piracy is a war-like act committed by private parties (not affiliated with any government) that engage in acts of robbery and/or criminal violence at sea."
This is Internet SPACEships. There is no piracy in EvE. It has been scientifically proven.
ECOTERRORISM!
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Damien McCandless
Caldari
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.11.29 10:42:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
ECOTERRORISM!
Yes I think I can get behind that as a much better description.
Plus, it means that these so-called Industrial Corps require an investigation into their poor Ecologicial Standards as well as their Health & Safety At Work Policies (which have always been lack-lustre at best).
Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
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celmi
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.11.29 10:48:00 -
[44]
why do you post the date? why warn anyone, i might expect to see it on wiki leaks but just come out and announce the date like that, no pirate in thier right mind...
is open for anyone to join? oh wait nvr mind.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.29 10:50:00 -
[45]
Originally by: celmi
why do you post the date? why warn anyone, i might expect to see it on wiki leaks but just come out and announce the date like that, no pirate in thier right mind...
is open for anyone to join? oh wait nvr mind.
Because we have always done so, and miners still die by their thousands.
At least they can't claim we did not warn them...
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Meridith Akesia
Tempest Legion
Ghost Syndicate.
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Posted - 2010.11.29 14:14:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Headerman
it is worth mining these days
Hahahaha. you funny guy.
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Aerion Va'rr
The Priesthood
The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2010.11.29 15:46:00 -
[47]
I call it Poetic Justice... why not test the mettle of Solar Annihilation Ultra Doom Heavy Industries (or any of those other ridiculous indy/mining corp names).
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.11.29 16:30:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: celmi
why do you post the date?
Because we have always done so, and miners still die by their thousands.
Not only is this true, it's incredibly sad. The thing is, miners with a clue will dock up for a week and do something else, or at least be aligned and watch local if they really must mine. The people who get ganked during Hulkageddon are the macros (who don't care) and the stupid (who produce the emo tears sought after by the participants).
There's no lack of warnings, either. I saw a mailing to my main's alliance the same day this thread went live. People fly around Eve telling people in Local what is happening. Some sit in the trade hubs and warn miners.
Yet, people still get ganked. Why? Because they're just not that bright.
I'm not going to argue the morality of Hulkageddon - people who suicide gank Hulks for laughs aren't exactly stellar members of society (in game). It is amusing however, and I encourage it for that reason.
I'll be donating another Iteron full of stuff. The advanced notice is super nice, now I can actually put something fun together instead of toss in whatever crap I have at the last minute.
Fix Rockets in '08 '09 2010 2011 2012?! |
Hideki Tsutomi
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Posted - 2010.11.29 22:24:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Whining
Because it's fun.
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Rykuss
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Posted - 2010.11.29 23:30:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Hra Neuvosto
Originally by: Leslie e'Evob
How many times can you suicide a Hulk before your sec.status is too low to do it again? Recycling characters for something like this is, after all, an exploit...
No matter how low your sec gets, you can still suicide hulks. It's not really an issue.
True, I see plenty of griefers with -10 sec status doing it at least ten times a day in hisec already. Seems pretty easy to me.
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Deylithdra
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Posted - 2010.11.30 01:08:00 -
[51]
Glorious comrades,
I answer the call for this noble quest and pledge to join you as a participant. Forsooth, many a hulk shall kersplode by our combined Holy onslaught! Assuredly, I say unto you, that 3001 hulks shall be destroyed during this quest and their pilots will weep a vast ocean of delicious QQ.
Huzzah!
(That's right, I totally broke out a "forsooth") |
Nox Vera
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Posted - 2010.11.30 01:13:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Nox Vera on 30/11/2010 01:15:28
Edited by: Nox Vera on 30/11/2010 01:13:40
Originally by: Deylithdra
Glorious comrades,
I answer the call for this noble quest and pledge to join you as a participant. Forsooth, many a hulk shall kersplode by our combined Holy onslaught! Assuredly, I say unto you, that 3001 hulks shall be destroyed during this quest and their pilots will weep a vast ocean of delicious QQ.
Huzzah!
(That's right, I totally broke out a "forsooth")
Well then. I guess I have to do it now too, just so I can out-hulk you. I wasn't doing anything with that sec status anyway.
Er, I mean, verily, I shall on this that day prove that it is I, Sir Tanthius Vanter of Custuvaert, who art the true champion of Hulk slaying, and however many of these mighty beasts thou bringest down, I shall slay threefold.
That hurt to type.
Edit: Woops. Wrong character. Hrm.
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Suiginryou Hitaiga
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.30 03:58:00 -
[53]
I guess the major problem is not about the gankers. They're mundane mindless yobs, mostly, can care less about this bunch.
The main issue about the events like this one is broken resource gathering system, allowing to have all the minerals you might need without any mining at all, while mining is supposed to be the one and only source of raw materials to build ships. Not to mention promoting the macromining (hell, I might even join the next event to kick out some macroers' asses).
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Tarsas Phage
Viziam
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Posted - 2010.11.30 05:59:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Nox Vera
Edited by: Nox Vera on 30/11/2010 01:18:03
Er, I mean, verily, I shall on this that day prove that it is I, Sir Tanthius Vanter of Custuvaert, who art the true champion of Hulk slaying, and however many of these mighty beasts thou bringest down, I shall slay threefold.
In before Herr Wilkus.
But you've got moxy!
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Damien McCandless
Caldari
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.11.30 10:31:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
I guess the major problem is not about the gankers. They're mundane mindless yobs, mostly, can care less about this bunch.
The main issue about the events like this one is broken resource gathering system, allowing to have all the minerals you might need without any mining at all, while mining is supposed to be the one and only source of raw materials to build ships. Not to mention promoting the macromining (hell, I might even join the next event to kick out some macroers' asses).
How tall are you!?
Mining is not the "one and only source of raw materials". This is starting to sound like a troll post because of the mind-bending shallowness of all your statements.
I was going to help you out by explaining the flaws in your arugments and how to actually survive Hulkageddon with an intact mining fleet, but instead I call SHINNANGHANS on you.
How I wish you were a main, I'd come and petition for an officially sanctioned IEEE Investigation into what I can only assume are extremely bad corporate practices perpetuated by your corp.
Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
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Dannerkongen
1st Recon
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Posted - 2010.11.30 10:45:00 -
[56]
veldspar was about 3.50 isk when hulkageddon started! now its at 2
what is it that u think u r accomplishing
u guys r pussies!!! like sealclubbers!!
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Shadow Mare
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Posted - 2010.11.30 11:03:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: celmi
why do you post the date? why warn anyone ...
Because we have always done so, and miners still die by their thousands.
At least they can't claim we did not warn them...
See!, no this is why I like you ( the organisers of this event), you provide a fair warning.
This means the ones that will suffer are the stupid, the incompetent and the macros. In other words it hurts the idiots that the rest of us are sick of anyway.
Hulkageddon, for the better class of griefer
( I am a carebear and in approve of this product/service )
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Damien McCandless
Caldari
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.11.30 11:25:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Shadow Mare
Edited by: Shadow Mare on 30/11/2010 11:09:41
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: celmi
why do you post the date? why warn anyone ...
Because we have always done so, and miners still die by their thousands.
At least they can't claim we did not warn them...
See!, no this is why I like you ( the organisers of this event), you provide a fair warning.
This means the ones that will suffer are the stupid, the incompetent and the macros. In other words it hurts the idiots that the rest of us are sick of anyway.
Hulkageddon, for the better class of griefer
( I am a carebear and I approve of this product/service )
( edit: However apparently I cannot spell )
See, I always knew there were good miners out there.
If you weren't a girl, I'd give you a big kiss!
Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
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Azishkra'elhykai Mizamel
Mad Bombers
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.11.30 12:09:00 -
[59]
Ooooh so the whisperings are true!
Once the merchandise starts coming out from this, I'll have a looksee for potential prize donations...
Stationery would be nice, as it means maybe the top three scorers would get something as opposed to just one person...
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Suiginryou Hitaiga
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.30 12:29:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Suiginryou Hitaiga on 30/11/2010 12:30:51
Originally by: Damien McCandless
How tall are you!?
Fairly.
Originally by: Damien McCandless
Mining is not the "one and only source of raw materials".
I know it isn't. But it's supposed to be. It's made for that state. Sorry if my language confused you (sorry, you never know how crappy it is unless you're misunderstood), I meant that mining system is designed to be the one and only source of raw materials. That it should be so. Nothing more.
Originally by: Damien McCandless
I was going to help you out by explaining the flaws in your arugments and how to actually survive Hulkageddon with an intact mining fleet, but instead I call SHINNANGHANS on you.
The key word is "fleet". My only issue about Hulkageddon events is the outbreak of random ganks against solo miners, not only macroers, which usually work in groups. Big groups.
Originally by: Damien McCandless
How I wish you were a main, I'd come and petition for an officially sanctioned IEEE Investigation into what I can only assume are extremely bad corporate practices perpetuated by your corp.
My corp's dead, I'm just too lazy to leave it for an npc corp.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.11.30 12:45:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
I know it isn't. But it's supposed to be. It's made for that state. Sorry if my language confused you (sorry, you never know how crappy it is unless you're misunderstood), I meant that mining system is designed to be the one and only source of raw materials. That it should be so. Nothing more.
Snipe cause I am Alara. That and Drone loot was always Mineral based but I don't beleive CCP expected Mission Repo.
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
The key word is "fleet". My only issue about Hulkageddon events is the outbreak of random ganks against solo miners, not only macroers, which usually work in groups. Big groups.
I don't think it was ever about Macro's but considered a by product. The organizers never said they were doing it to stop macro's, that is more the call of people legitimizing it as a good thing for all. If I remember Helicty used to post that it was to see how people would adapt to this sudden incursion from Low Sec. It only got big after the first one when it proved popular enough to become an event for all Sec Status. At least I think, my EVE history is a little rusty.
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I am now on a Crusade to Fix the Omen!
For Great Justice!
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Damien McCandless
Caldari
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.11.30 12:51:00 -
[62]
Im going to answer these in order of how much they annoy me
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
I know it isn't. But it's supposed to be. It's made for that state. Sorry if my language confused you (sorry, you never know how crappy it is unless you're misunderstood), I meant that mining system is designed to be the one and only source of raw materials. That it should be so. Nothing more.
No it isn't. That is why the REPROCESS button exists. Missions are the second best source of good minerals after the still-twitching corpse of a fresh T2 or T3 enemy. Salvage is a key resource that cannot be mined and is REQUIRED for many projects. If CCP intended that mining was the be all and end all of farming, they wouldn't have put the button in or allowed you to skill-up processing.
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
The key word is "fleet". My only issue about Hulkageddon events is the outbreak of random ganks against solo miners, not only macroers, which usually work in groups. Big groups.
The miners work in groups or the "gankers"? ( of course this isn't actual ganking, its just pvp but never mind that).
Solo miners deserve to die. If you want to play this game solo, go play X3. Make some friends or get out. Miners can only survive in fleets with fleet support. Thats why single solo pilots are easy to kill and orcas surrounded by stealth bombers aren't.
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
My corp's dead, I'm just too lazy to leave it for an npc corp.
Well, find a new corp. Or kill your CEO and take all the stuffs. Or form your own newer better one. But clearly no matter what its fail, so please dont come on here and claim we are all somehow of low moral fibre just because we wish to teach a bunch of rock-huggers a valuable lesson in high sec fleet actions, about good Standards in mining, and for our own enjoyment.
Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
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Suiginryou Hitaiga
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.11.30 13:37:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Damien McCandless
That is why the REPROCESS button exists.
It exists to get back a PORTION of what was spent building the thing. Not to get five times more minerals from reprocessing mission loot than mining for the same time.
Originally by: Damien McCandless
Missions are the second best source of good minerals after the still-twitching corpse of a fresh T2 or T3 enemy.
Yup. Instead of mining.
Originally by: Damien McCandless
Salvage is a key resource that cannot be mined and is REQUIRED for many projects.
It's produced on planets, as far as I know. Otherwise, no argument here.
Originally by: Damien McCandless
The miners work in groups or the "gankers"?
Macrominers.
Originally by: Damien McCandless
( of course this isn't actual ganking, its just pvp but never mind that).
According to urbandictionary, ganking (formerly, "gang kill") means either killing solo player with a group (original meaning) or, regardless of numbers, when target has little to no chance of escape or retaliation (modern meaning). With the current event, both apply.
Originally by: Damien McCandless
Solo miners deserve to die.
Why? Just because you're too envious of someone way more patient than you to get their narrow-specialized piece of tech? Because you can't stand someone who's okay with little income and little risk, not aiming to win big and therefore avoiding to be others' food? What exactly did solo miners do to deserve to die? Why lone specialists that are not warriors enrages you so much so you want to kill them? They pose no threat to you whatsoever, they just do their little jobs and are fine. What's wrong about it?
Originally by: Damien McCandless
If you want to play this game solo, go play X3. Make some friends or get out.
I think my playstyle is none of your business. As yours is not mine, so, unlike you, I won't suggest what should you do.
Originally by: Damien McCandless
Miners can only survive in fleets with fleet support.
On the other hand, pirates (even solo ones!) have much higher odds at survival when there is a turmoil nearby.
Therefore, I suppose that it's not about playing solo or not. It's about living peacefully, refusing to eat or to be eaten. About being better. About jealousy of evolution: inferior species are always afraid of superior, and instincts dictate the only appropriate action they 'know' of - kill what you fear, before it overwhelms your species.
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Niquita Serov
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.11.30 13:43:00 -
[64]
oh man, still 2 months away and already the tears are flowing. . .
THAT is why I love hulkageddon!
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Torton Spinks
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Posted - 2010.11.30 13:52:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Torton Spinks on 30/11/2010 13:53:39
*******I am now officially acting on behalf of Oricalchum*******
DO NOT SEND PRIZES TO Oricalchum or Helicity Boson , they will be ignored
I will be online this evening so feel free to send them in.
******* BEST OF LUCK TO ALL PARTICIPANTS!! *****************
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Damien McCandless
Caldari
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.11.30 14:24:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Damien McCandless on 30/11/2010 14:25:32
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
It exists to get back a PORTION of what was spent building the thing. Not to get five times more minerals from reprocessing mission loot than mining for the same time.
You only get what you train and/or put in. Why do you mine? To make money. You earn far more money for less time spent by doing missions PLUS you get reprocessed minerals and salvage PLUS the chance of randomly occuring rare mineral asteroids. Im not saying mining is useless, Im saying that a sensible balance of mining and missioning is the best way to let the game play itself while you watch telly... er I mean make isk.
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
According to urbandictionary, ganking (formerly, "gang kill") means either killing solo player with a group (original meaning) or, regardless of numbers, when target has little to no chance of escape or retaliation (modern meaning). With the current event, both apply.
I'm sorry but a) you are using Urban Dictionary to back up your statement, a source only slightly less reliable than The Bible and b)the target only has "little to no chance of escape or retaliation" because solo miners let themselves be defenseless sheep who beg to be killed by displaying their weakness so openly. Kerensky save us from their decadent ways!
Originally by: Damien McCandless
Solo miners deserve to die.
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
Why? Just because you're too envious of someone way more patient than you to get their narrow-specialized piece of tech? Because you can't stand someone who's okay with little income and little risk, not aiming to win big and therefore avoiding to be others' food? What exactly did solo miners do to deserve to die? Why lone specialists that are not warriors enrages you so much so you want to kill them? They pose no threat to you whatsoever, they just do their little jobs and are fine. What's wrong about it?
Ok, I have mined. I may or may not have alts who mine. But do I or they look bothered? No, because we operate in fleets. With protection. We do not walk down the EvE equivalent of Mogadishu high street carrying rubies under our arms and then whinge when we get rolled! "Lone specialists" my eye, they are similar in many ways to Pikeys, Tinkers, Travellin People and other such social outcasts. They have decided not to integrate with EvE, and so the nature of the universe punishes them for their exculsionist ways. My point about X3 is this: whats the point in playing a multiplayer game and demand to be left alone? The ridiculous emotive nonsense that you use to excuse it is barely palitable.
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
I think my playstyle is none of your business. As yours is not mine, so, unlike you, I won't suggest what should you do..
Are you SRS?! This started because you came into this thread and made disparaging comments about pirates picking on miners. Please do me the honour of remembering that.
Originally by: Damien McCandless
Miners can only survive in fleets with fleet support.
On the other hand, pirates (even solo ones!) have much higher odds at survival when there is a turmoil nearby.
I disagree. A fully equipped, well trained and drilled mining fleet with combat support ships, all in the same corp, keeping eyes on scans, with scouts on gates and stealth ships on standby, all aligned and not jetcanning is virtually impossible to make a dent in, and certainly impossible to suicide more than one BS into.
Originally by: Suiginryou Hitaiga
About jealousy of evolution: inferior species are always afraid of superior, and instincts dictate the only appropriate action they 'know' of - kill what you fear, before it overwhelms your species.
That is an incredibly shallow reading of the facts. Miners are the ones in danger. But instead of doing anything to avoid extinction, they make vain threats about quitting EvE and cry. Learn to fleet, tank and fight. Hire some krew. Evolve or die, miner.
Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone! - CCP Zymurgist
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Nall Goehk
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Posted - 2010.11.30 15:41:00 -
[67]
I have a miner alt and I still love this event- esp the tears section. Keep up the good work Miss Boston :P
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XenosisReaper
Rising Ashes Inc.
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.11.30 15:50:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Torton Spinks
Edited by: Torton Spinks on 30/11/2010 13:53:39
*******I am now officially acting on behalf of Oricalchum*******
DO NOT SEND PRIZES TO Oricalchum or Helicity Boson , they will be ignored
I will be online this evening so feel free to send them in.
******* BEST OF LUCK TO ALL PARTICIPANTS!! *****************
Oi, stop that. My shinies, (2 Black Ops and several dzen BS so far
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Torton Spinks
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Posted - 2010.11.30 16:22:00 -
[69]
Originally by: XenosisReaper
Originally by: Torton Spinks
Edited by: Torton Spinks on 30/11/2010 13:53:39
*******I am now officially acting on behalf of Oricalchum*******
DO NOT SEND PRIZES TO Oricalchum or Helicity Boson , they will be ignored
I will be online this evening so feel free to send them in.
******* BEST OF LUCK TO ALL PARTICIPANTS!! *****************
Oi, stop that. My shinies, (2 Black Ops and several dzen BS so far
This is official , please dont undermine the thread , we are trying to generate as many prizes as possible this year , come on people - please donate - make 2011 the best yet!!
*******I am now officially acting on behalf of Oricalchum*******
DO NOT SEND PRIZES TO Oricalchum or Helicity Boson , they will be ignored
I will be online this evening so feel free to send them in.
******* BEST OF LUCK TO ALL PARTICIPANTS!! *****************
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Oricalchum
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Posted - 2010.11.30 18:21:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Torton Spinks
Originally by: XenosisReaper
Originally by: Torton Spinks
Edited by: Torton Spinks on 30/11/2010 13:53:39
*******I am now officially acting on behalf of Oricalchum*******
DO NOT SEND PRIZES TO Oricalchum or Helicity Boson , they will be ignored
I will be online this evening so feel free to send them in.
******* BEST OF LUCK TO ALL PARTICIPANTS!! *****************
Oi, stop that. My shinies, (2 Black Ops and several dzen BS so far
This is official , please dont undermine the thread , we are trying to generate as many prizes as possible this year , come on people - please donate - make 2011 the best yet!!
*******I am now officially acting on behalf of Oricalchum*******
DO NOT SEND PRIZES TO Oricalchum or Helicity Boson , they will be ignored
I will be online this evening so feel free to send them in.
******* BEST OF LUCK TO ALL PARTICIPANTS!! *****************
How about no?
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.11.30 18:36:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Oricalchum
Originally by: Torton Spinks
Originally by: XenosisReaper
Originally by: Torton Spinks
Edited by: Torton Spinks on 30/11/2010 13:53:39
*******I am now officially acting on behalf of Oricalchum*******
DO NOT SEND PRIZES TO Oricalchum or Helicity Boson , they will be ignored
I will be online this evening so feel free to send them in.
******* BEST OF LUCK TO ALL PARTICIPANTS!! *****************
Oi, stop that. My shinies, (2 Black Ops and several dzen BS so far
This is official , please dont undermine the thread , we are trying to generate as many prizes as possible this year , come on people - please donate - make 2011 the best yet!!
*******I am now officially acting on behalf of Oricalchum*******
DO NOT SEND PRIZES TO Oricalchum or Helicity Boson , they will be ignored
I will be online this evening so feel free to send them in.
******* BEST OF LUCK TO ALL PARTICIPANTS!! *****************
How about no?
How about you both go away and the prizes go to the organizer, i.e. me hmm?
;)
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Amber Whiplash
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Posted - 2010.11.30 19:09:00 -
[72]
Please tell me ice belts (specifically Mackinaws) will also be getting a thorough tear extraction?!
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XenosisReaper
Rising Ashes Inc.
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.11.30 19:19:00 -
[73]
Thread lock plox, mainly to give Helicity more attention because my "Evil Pirate IRC Endorsed" Thread is taking all the views from the official one, and because IRC are currently raging at me for making everything think they are "EBIL PIRATS"
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.30 19:21:00 -
[74]
Locked due to no content in OP.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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