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Ehrghiez
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Posted - 2010.12.01 01:35:00 -
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Anyone gonna front up the 500+ mil isk for one of these? I am sure they are cheaper in other regions of space, but so far all I have seen is 500mil give or take.
Any ideas on how long these prices are going to stay like this?
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Arcii
Amarr
Secret Squirrel Readiness Group
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.12.01 01:44:00 -
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Edited by: Arcii on 01/12/2010 01:44:15
It's called supply and demand. Supply is low at the moment, while a lot of people want this ship, so yeah... prices are terribly high. Looking at the market history, I see some people have already spent these insane amounts of money. Most likely reason: FIRST! :P Anyway... as soon as more people start making these ships and more people have bought them, prices will drop and stabilize. Not sure how long this will take. May be a week, may be a month or more. I know I want one, but I'll wait a bit :)
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Headerman
Minmatar
Metanoia.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.12.01 01:55:00 -
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Give it a week or 2, should come down a fair bit
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GaiusAlexander
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Posted - 2010.12.01 02:06:00 -
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They are 140m in the Motsu system. Come to Caldari space. We have good prices, and we serve cookies!
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Starlight Twilight
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.12.01 02:18:00 -
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they are also getting ganked left and right in highsec
if you plan on buying one, expect it to die in the .5 sec after invulnerability ends
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Elizabetha Pith
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Posted - 2010.12.01 06:10:00 -
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Well I got mine in Jita last night and got out alive, I managed to get it for 125 mill, yeah I know twice as much as it's worth currently but man can this ship salvage or what BOOYAH!
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Simeon Tor
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Posted - 2010.12.01 06:22:00 -
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There's some for 100-110 in Lonetrek..
Nah you go ahead and pay 500m, I'm sure it's better than all the other Noctis's's's's.. Noctii?
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Alias 6322A
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Posted - 2010.12.01 06:23:00 -
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Check the BPO and you'll see the mineral price of the ship isn't terribly high.
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2010.12.01 06:27:00 -
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Just checked amarr and there was one for 150 mil. In about a week they will be a bit over cost because producers have no clue about how to keep prices high.
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Fried'chickenisha
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Posted - 2010.12.01 07:29:00 -
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100-150m tash-murkon, med salvage rigs were 15-20 mill though.
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Ronen Osden
Caldari
Ronen's NEW And Improved Mining Services
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Posted - 2010.12.01 07:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ronen Osden on 01/12/2010 07:57:48
Ive built and sold a few for 76.75m. (Jita prices are around 80m or so currently)
They sell quick, which is all I care about :D
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Shereza
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Posted - 2010.12.01 08:06:00 -
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Given that the absolute minimum price has dropped from about 180m when I first saw them on the market to 80m I'd say they've already dropped pretty fast.
I doubt they'll drop much lower than 50-60m for a bit, at least not until some BPs come out of the ME cooker and the build price, if you buy all the minerals off the market, drops to around 38-40m dependant on mineral prices. Right now the build price based off of mineral sell orders is only 43-45m in some regions, but the builders also have to recoup the BPO costs hence my 50-60m price range.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.12.01 08:10:00 -
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36m mineral cost in Solitude, with worst possible mineral prices. 500m really? Some people are just crazy
Oh yeah, about my sig... you have now read it.
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Captain Casperette
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Posted - 2010.12.01 08:50:00 -
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wow i have seen many at 80mil. 500mil is nuts
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dtyk
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Posted - 2010.12.01 09:55:00 -
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 Originally by: Simeon Tor
Noctis's's's's.. Noctii?
Noctium.
Also, the price will be under 40 mil in a week. Or 10 days tops.
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Yoinkerman
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Posted - 2010.12.01 10:18:00 -
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picked one up for 80m earlier, love it so far! and once they change mwd in missions, i'll be able to burn a mwd and vacuum everything up easy. fit it with 3 nanos, because with 3 cargo expanders it's like driving a city block.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.12.01 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: dtyk
Originally by: Simeon Tor
Noctis's's's's.. Noctii?
Noctium.
^^ This. To be more clear:
Noctis is genitive singular of nox (night). Assuming we want to keep the genitive, the plural form is noctium ù if not, it would be noctes, but that means something rather different.
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Rinkata
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Posted - 2010.12.01 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Rinkata on 01/12/2010 11:12:47
wikipedia about Noctis
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Jenko Raa
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Posted - 2010.12.01 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: dtyk
Originally by: Simeon Tor
Noctis's's's's.. Noctii?
Noctium.
^^ This. To be more clear:
Noctis is genitive singular of nox (night). Assuming we want to keep the genitive, the plural form is noctium ù if not, it would be noctes, but that means something rather different.
Ius primae noctis or the ôright of the first night,ö sometimes known as droit de seigneur, is a legendary right which was supposedly held by feudal lords. According to the terms of this right, the lord of the manor had the right to the marriage bed on the first night of a serf or peasant's marriage.
Sweet, a naughty salvage ship. Eve wins.
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Ehrghiez
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Posted - 2010.12.01 11:56:00 -
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Damn, 140mil sounds nice haha. I am in the black rise region right now, so the price inflation shouldn't really surprise me. Thanks for all the replies though =)
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Hybok
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Posted - 2010.12.01 12:04:00 -
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In jita there are already 63 m
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2010.12.01 12:11:00 -
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Brutix, Brutices.
Noctis, Noctes.
Taranis, Taranii.
Thanatos, Thanatei.
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Werawulf
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Posted - 2010.12.01 14:07:00 -
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A ship that takes 3 hours to build and where all the minerals to build it can be fit in a single transport ship...Is anyone surprised prices are dropping so fast?
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Random Alt147782
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Posted - 2010.12.01 14:13:00 -
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My new favorite setup. Orca with a Noctis, Tengu, and Raptor. Orca boosts and moves to mission systems, also carries the loot, mods, ammo, etc and the Raptor for zipping around getting multiple missions from agents in the area. I is happy :)
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Jai Di
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.01 14:22:00 -
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I payed 120 mil for mine, but with the rate it eats wrecks I've more than remade my money already (along with bounties of lvl 4's of course).
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2010.12.01 14:39:00 -
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Last check they are selling in Jita for 62M
Given that they cost 43M to build from a 0me print thats not a bad deal for day 1.
The BPO are not cheap ( 390M ) and have to be run in from null sec through naughty gate campers wanting to steal the shiney cargo.
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Tinytacohead
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Posted - 2010.12.01 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dav Varan
...and have to be run in from null sec through naughty gate campers wanting to steal the shiney cargo.
Say whaaa? you need a new region. There're a bajillion of them for sale in Sinq.. albeit @ 478m, but they're all in .9 space..
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Seriously Bored
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.01 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
Brutix, Brutixes.
Noctis, Noctises.
Taranis, Taranises.
Thanatos, Thanatoses.
We're writing in English, not Latin or Greek ya'll. 
Although, what the hell. The made up plurals sound fun. Just as long as I don't see any "bonii"...
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dtyk
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Posted - 2010.12.01 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Seriously Bored
Originally by: Gypsio III
Brutix, Brutixes.
Noctis, Noctises.
Taranis, Taranises.
Thanatos, Thanatoses.
We're writing in English, not Latin or Greek ya'll.
Although, what the hell. The made up plurals sound fun. Just as long as I don't see any "bonii"...
I would like to point out that none of those words are English.
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Seriously Bored
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.01 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: Seriously Bored on 01/12/2010 18:49:21
Originally by: dtyk
I would like to point out that none of those words are English.
Sure. But your construction of their pluralized form definitely is, at least as far as we're writing in English to talk to each other on the Intertubes. I have no idea what the pluralization would be in Icelandic...
Bah. I'm going to go put my language troll hat back in the closet.
Back to the OP:
Prices tend to drop to a stable point once a number of manufactures get the ME of their blueprints to an efficient level. New ships are always inefficient to make to begin with (ED: also, builders rightly assume they can mark up the price on the first wave of buyers), and it takes a few months before proper research and market competition bring the price down.
I'm thinking it'll be spring before we see a stable, sustainable low price...or maybe later.
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