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Trush
Xorpor Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.27 10:28:00 -
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Put a bunch of pixel vs pilxel's in a thread about warfare and suddenly everyone is a 4-star General and history buff.
It's my understanding that Pvpers tend to be poor, so losses are indeed losses. Make Industry and Station Trading more glamorous, maybe add guns to the market browser so you snipe your competitors. |
Zey Nadar
Aliastra Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2011.09.27 14:08:00 -
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Firebolt145 wrote:You're right. No one in EVE can fight bigger numbers. Trolololo.
Its not really a question of ability, but willingness. |
Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
0
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:15:00 -
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Conor Todaki wrote:I went to low-sec today.
Guess how many people I saw.
1 warp stabbed rifter.
Oh and a thanatos. Doing whatever outside a station in docking range.
Then you're doing it wrong... I'm sure I can go to the most quiet null-sec system and only find 1 stabbed rifter and a thanatos as well. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
4
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:17:00 -
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Nope only the Russians did that.
Cearain wrote: Consider World war 2. Did theRussian, English, Americans, Chinese and other allies pile all their military soldiers and material into one large blob and then go as one huge force fighting around the world until the met the big blob that had all the german italian and Japanese soldiers and material?
Is sexy time? |
March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.09.27 15:54:00 -
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Princess Nexxala wrote:Nope only the Russians did that. Cearain wrote: Consider World war 2. Did theRussian, English, Americans, Chinese and other allies pile all their military soldiers and material into one large blob and then go as one huge force fighting around the world until the met the big blob that had all the german italian and Japanese soldiers and material?
why have you left your elementary school so early? |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.09.27 17:20:00 -
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Regardless of history the EVE game mechanics almost always tend to lead rational people to blob up. CCP should figure out some mechanics where fighting forces need to be deployed trhoughout a region or several regions at the same time. It would offer those who don't care for blob warfare something to do pvp wise. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Xpaulusx
StarFleet Enterprises BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.09.28 03:44:00 -
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Meso Tight wrote:It's fleet commander vs. fleet commander. No longer can 5-10 people think outside the box and fight outnumbered. Yogie bear & friends rule. It's geared toward the useless babies that follow the milk leaking tit into a battle of #'s. Fuckin grow up CPP, you FAIL. Fix PVP or forever exist as a statistic among the FAILING MMOG group of 2011
Most of the Alliances such as Test, Goons, NC.Dot, DRF, Atlas, Nulli, Brick all run small gangs, you are simply out of touch or in the wrong Corp or alliance, do some research before making stupid statements. |
Taurean Eltanin
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.09.28 09:20:00 -
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I have a confession to make:
My blog (see my signature), which provides details of dozens of solo and small gang fights backed up by API verified killmails is a hoax. Regardless of what you might think, it's all fake.
It must be, after all, because as the OP has correctly pointed out, this kind of pvp does not exist in Eve. It's imaginary, just like elves, and faries, and Eskimos. http://flight-of-dragons.blogspot.com/ |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.09.28 14:02:00 -
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Taurean Eltanin wrote:I have a confession to make:
My blog (see my signature), which provides details of dozens of solo and small gang fights backed up by API verified killmails is a hoax. Regardless of what you might think, it's all fake.
It must be, after all, because as the OP has correctly pointed out, this kind of pvp does not exist in Eve. It's imaginary, just like elves, and faries, and Eskimos.
I would agree they exist. But they take a really long time to find. Of course, "really long time" is a relative term.
Some people might think its great that they find a decent fight after 3 hours of forming/warping. For me, thats a bit too much boredom for the short thrill. I think ccp should make mechanics where I can get decent solo and small scale pvp fights at the rate of about 4-6 per hour.
Since your plugging your sig, I'll say the proposal in my sig would do it.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Boston Six
ASTARTES CORP
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Posted - 2011.09.28 17:53:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Taurean Eltanin wrote:I have a confession to make:
My blog (see my signature), which provides details of dozens of solo and small gang fights backed up by API verified killmails is a hoax. Regardless of what you might think, it's all fake.
It must be, after all, because as the OP has correctly pointed out, this kind of pvp does not exist in Eve. It's imaginary, just like elves, and faries, and Eskimos. I would agree they exist. But they take a really long time to find. Of course, "really long time" is a relative term. Some people might think its great that they find a decent fight after 3 hours of forming/warping. For me, thats a bit too much boredom for the short thrill. I think ccp should make mechanics where I can get decent solo and small scale pvp fights at the rate of about 4-6 per hour. Since your plugging your sig, I'll say the proposal in my sig would do it.
Yeah. And make it so I can kill 4-5 MR's an hour too. CCP you need to make it so all I have to do is log in and then spam my skills button over and over to get leet kills and pvps. Maybe hire people to log in when I do and float around in ships so I can target lock POW them, it would be even better if I didn't have to leave a station. Please thanks. |
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Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.09.28 18:10:00 -
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Boston Six wrote:Cearain wrote:Taurean Eltanin wrote:I have a confession to make:
My blog (see my signature), which provides details of dozens of solo and small gang fights backed up by API verified killmails is a hoax. Regardless of what you might think, it's all fake.
It must be, after all, because as the OP has correctly pointed out, this kind of pvp does not exist in Eve. It's imaginary, just like elves, and faries, and Eskimos. I would agree they exist. But they take a really long time to find. Of course, "really long time" is a relative term. Some people might think its great that they find a decent fight after 3 hours of forming/warping. For me, thats a bit too much boredom for the short thrill. I think ccp should make mechanics where I can get decent solo and small scale pvp fights at the rate of about 4-6 per hour. Since your plugging your sig, I'll say the proposal in my sig would do it. Yeah. And make it so I can kill 4-5 MR's an hour too. CCP you need to make it so all I have to do is log in and then spam my skills button over and over to get leet kills and pvps. Maybe hire people to log in when I do and float around in ships so I can target lock POW them, it would be even better if I didn't have to leave a station. Please thanks.
I didn't say kills/hour. I said fights. Why do you act like its impossible that ccp could make a game that had a bit more action than 1 solo/small scale fight every 2-3 hours?
Did you even read the proposal in my sig? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
10
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Posted - 2011.09.30 14:55:00 -
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If you are getting 1 battle every 2-3 hours then you are roaming in a location that's not pvp orientated or populated enough. If you live in the more well travelled routes and systems you can get fights in minutes if that's what you are after. |
Goose99
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2011.09.30 15:03:00 -
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Zoe Alarhun wrote:If you are getting 1 battle every 2-3 hours then you are roaming in a location that's not pvp orientated or populated enough. If you live in the more well travelled routes and systems you can get fights in minutes if that's what you are after.
By "fights," he must have meant catching a noob ratter at a belt, as opposed to getting ganked at a gate. |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.09.30 15:33:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:Zoe Alarhun wrote:If you are getting 1 battle every 2-3 hours then you are roaming in a location that's not pvp orientated or populated enough. If you live in the more well travelled routes and systems you can get fights in minutes if that's what you are after. By "fights," he must have meant catching a noob ratter at a belt, as opposed to getting ganked at a gate.
I meant neither.
Zoe I realize I can engage a battlecruiser in a frigate and get a fight that way within minutes. But I mean a fight of decent quality not just suicide.
Where are you that you are getting decent pvp fights in minutes?
Other than rvb I have never heard anyone even make such a claim. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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YesI'mWatching
Cool4Cats
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Posted - 2011.09.30 19:09:00 -
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Can be pretty tough getting solo fights, best way i've found is to make sure the other guy has the advantage, or at least let him think he does, fight outmatched on ship type. vigil v ceptor etc., but even so i can go a whole night looking for and not getting a fight, it's not supposed to be easy. |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2011.09.30 22:19:00 -
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There is plenty small gang PvP going on all the time.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=corp&name=Agony+Unleashed
That's the battlclinic info on one group. Take a good look at it.
Go back a few PAGES of kills. You'll find like 3 entries with 11-14 on page 2 and going back to around page 7, you'll find that they jumped into fights with larger groups and what not.
That group specializes in small gang PvP but the cool part - they'll TEACH you how to do it successfully. They run classes on the topic.
So if you're finding it difficult - check out Agony's class schedule and learn how to find such small-gang fights.
IMO that'd beat the hell out of being ticked off that you can't find it successfully. Take a class and learn how from folks that I do see as experts on the topic as well as training how its done. |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.10.01 17:33:00 -
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Mocam wrote:There is plenty small gang PvP going on all the time. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=corp&name=Agony+UnleashedThat's the battlclinic info on one group. Take a good look at it. Go back a few PAGES of kills. You'll find like 3 entries with 11-14 on page 2 and going back to around page 7, you'll find that they jumped into fights with larger groups and what not. That group specializes in small gang PvP but the cool part - they'll TEACH you how to do it successfully. They run classes on the topic. So if you're finding it difficult - check out Agony's class schedule and learn how to find such small-gang fights. IMO that'd beat the hell out of being ticked off that you can't find it successfully. Take a class and learn how from folks that I do see as experts on the topic as well as training how its done.
I think you need to do/know more than just look at a killboard to determine whether there is "plenty" decent gang pvp going on all the time. Killboards don't tell you how long people had to wait to get those kills. They also don't tell you who was in gang when.
IMO there is far from "plenty" decent gang pvp in eve. How many decent fights per hour do you think is plenty? I think 3-5 would be plenty. (but ccp should strive for mechanics that bring even more than that)But that is extremely rare to find in eve outside rvb. Often I will fly around for an hour or 2 and not find anything. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Absolon
Bolt Action Drive by The Imperial Senate
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Posted - 2011.10.01 20:52:00 -
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I am really old to this game, but for the most part very new to PvP. I try, I get some kills here and there. I am okay in a fleet (small sized seems to be what I like)
I agree with a lot of what all of you have said, and some not so much. I'll tell you though, I am a true lover of military tactics. I am sure what I am going to say has been said elsewhere, but if they want to make PvP really exciting in eve. Make planets orbital. make the systems dynamic. Make a fleet be able to use a plants gravity well to hide itself. Make ships be able to power down and hide in astroid belts. Every sneaky trick from Capt. Kirk to Adm. Adama. Then it will be truly realistic. Its just a thought, but it would be cool. |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
13
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Posted - 2011.10.02 01:58:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Mocam wrote:There is plenty small gang PvP going on all the time. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=corp&name=Agony+UnleashedThat's the battlclinic info on one group. Take a good look at it. Go back a few PAGES of kills. You'll find like 3 entries with 11-14 on page 2 and going back to around page 7, you'll find that they jumped into fights with larger groups and what not. That group specializes in small gang PvP but the cool part - they'll TEACH you how to do it successfully. They run classes on the topic. So if you're finding it difficult - check out Agony's class schedule and learn how to find such small-gang fights. IMO that'd beat the hell out of being ticked off that you can't find it successfully. Take a class and learn how from folks that I do see as experts on the topic as well as training how its done. I think you need to do/know more than just look at a killboard to determine whether there is "plenty" decent gang pvp going on all the time. Killboards don't tell you how long people had to wait to get those kills. They also don't tell you who was in gang when. IMO there is far from "plenty" decent gang pvp in eve. How many decent fights per hour do you think is plenty? I think 3-5 would be plenty. (but ccp should strive for mechanics that bring even more than that)But that is extremely rare to find in eve outside rvb. Often I will fly around for an hour or 2 and not find anything.
Not to be overly rude about this but...
That link was provided to show numbers as a reference point versus telling you to just talk to them with "claims" that it happens.
If you do talk with their members they can tell you about the fights, time it takes, what they do... So on and so forth. -AND- they will help you sign up for classes to learn how to do it for yourself. As such, your reply reads like a fantasy based denial whine about PvP in the game to avoid the reality that it happens and you just don't know how to do it. Complex game, learning happens even with "2003 vets" so don't feel insulted about frustrations with having more to learn.
EVE is about hunting targets and, quite often, fighting those who would prefer to get the hell out - not "fair fights". Hunting tends to take some time and techniuqes involved in the process because you are quite liable to be the hunted while trying to hunt.
If you actually are an ADD "gotta be in a fight every 5 minutes!" type - go find a lobby/arena style game and play that. This game is different and no I really don't see a reason to cater to the "20 min online, where's my PvP!" mindset. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
16
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Posted - 2011.10.02 03:47:00 -
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We run 6 man nano gangs with an FC, the FC gives orders, the rest follow them BUT each pilot must do what they can individually to apply damage and not get ******. PVP is clearly dead. |
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Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
11
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Posted - 2011.10.02 09:10:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Goose99 wrote:Zoe Alarhun wrote:If you are getting 1 battle every 2-3 hours then you are roaming in a location that's not pvp orientated or populated enough. If you live in the more well travelled routes and systems you can get fights in minutes if that's what you are after. By "fights," he must have meant catching a noob ratter at a belt, as opposed to getting ganked at a gate. I meant neither. Zoe I realize I can engage a battlecruiser in a frigate and get a fight that way within minutes. But I mean a fight of decent quality not just suicide. Where are you that you are getting decent pvp fights in minutes? Other than rvb I have never heard anyone even make such a claim.
I base out or Aurohunen (because it's near jita so my hauler doesn't have to go far for replacement ships).
Aurohunen, Mara, Rakapas, Oldman star, Tama and it's adjacent systems - I normally fly up that route. I usually find a pew between 1-4 jumps from my starting system. It's very busy stretch so you see haulers coming and going all times of day (if you want to randsom the buggers for isk), auro normally has some clueless people wandering into it from high sec to mine/rat/explore, mara/oldman/tama normally have tons of pirates and the occasional anti pirate there if you are looking for more "even" fights.
It really depends on your area. Also there's a bunch of people who mission here - so scanning them down provides some lulz too. |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.10.02 17:51:00 -
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Mocam wrote:Cearain wrote:Mocam wrote:There is plenty small gang PvP going on all the time. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=corp&name=Agony+UnleashedThat's the battlclinic info on one group. Take a good look at it. Go back a few PAGES of kills. You'll find like 3 entries with 11-14 on page 2 and going back to around page 7, you'll find that they jumped into fights with larger groups and what not. That group specializes in small gang PvP but the cool part - they'll TEACH you how to do it successfully. They run classes on the topic. So if you're finding it difficult - check out Agony's class schedule and learn how to find such small-gang fights. IMO that'd beat the hell out of being ticked off that you can't find it successfully. Take a class and learn how from folks that I do see as experts on the topic as well as training how its done. I think you need to do/know more than just look at a killboard to determine whether there is "plenty" decent gang pvp going on all the time. Killboards don't tell you how long people had to wait to get those kills. They also don't tell you who was in gang when. IMO there is far from "plenty" decent gang pvp in eve. How many decent fights per hour do you think is plenty? I think 3-5 would be plenty. (but ccp should strive for mechanics that bring even more than that)But that is extremely rare to find in eve outside rvb. Often I will fly around for an hour or 2 and not find anything. Not to be overly rude about this but... .... If you actually are an ADD "gotta be in a fight every 5 minutes!" type - go find a lobby/arena style game and play that. This game is different and no I really don't see a reason to cater to the "20 min online, where's my PvP!" mindset.
Thanks for all your advice. If I wanted to get eve pvp advice from someone who doesnGÇÖt know about eve pvp I would have asked my wife.
IGÇÖm not looking for an arena or a lobby to fight in. So again thanks for your advice but it doesnGÇÖt apply.
But while you are being so generous with your wisdom let me ask you a question: Why is it that people who donGÇÖt know anything about pvp in eve, feel the need to slobber all over threads regarding pvp?
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.10.02 17:51:00 -
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Zoe Alarhun wrote:Cearain wrote:Goose99 wrote:Zoe Alarhun wrote:If you are getting 1 battle every 2-3 hours then you are roaming in a location that's not pvp orientated or populated enough. If you live in the more well travelled routes and systems you can get fights in minutes if that's what you are after. By "fights," he must have meant catching a noob ratter at a belt, as opposed to getting ganked at a gate. I meant neither. Zoe I realize I can engage a battlecruiser in a frigate and get a fight that way within minutes. But I mean a fight of decent quality not just suicide. Where are you that you are getting decent pvp fights in minutes? Other than rvb I have never heard anyone even make such a claim. I base out or Aurohunen (because it's near jita so my hauler doesn't have to go far for replacement ships). Aurohunen, Mara, Rakapas, Oldman star, Tama and it's adjacent systems - I normally fly up that route. I usually find a pew between 1-4 jumps from my starting system. It's very busy stretch so you see haulers coming and going all times of day (if you want to randsom the buggers for isk), auro normally has some clueless people wandering into it from high sec to mine/rat/explore, mara/oldman/tama normally have tons of pirates and the occasional anti pirate there if you are looking for more "even" fights. It really depends on your area. Also there's a bunch of people who mission here - so scanning them down provides some lulz too.
Thanks for the response. I may check that area out. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Universal Consortium
14
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Posted - 2011.10.14 12:19:00 -
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Princess Nexxala wrote:Nope only the Russians did that. Cearain wrote: Consider World war 2. Did theRussian, English, Americans, Chinese and other allies pile all their military soldiers and material into one large blob and then go as one huge force fighting around the world until the met the big blob that had all the german italian and Japanese soldiers and material?
And it cost them 28 millions dead. Proof that RL =/= EVE. I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
Angry Onions
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
53
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Posted - 2011.10.14 14:11:00 -
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I saw this thread when all of it cold fit on one page, it was stupid and pointess..... WHY GOD IS IT THREE PAGES NOW?!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
OP is a butthurt wannabe pvp'er, simple as that. Why does this thread still exist?! E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us |
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
40
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Posted - 2011.10.14 14:23:00 -
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Meso Tight wrote:It's fleet commander vs. fleet commander. No longer can 5-10 people think outside the box and fight outnumbered. Yogie bear & friends rule. It's geared toward the useless babies that follow the milk leaking tit into a battle of #'s. Fuckin grow up CPP, you FAIL. Fix PVP or forever exist as a statistic among the FAILING MMOG group of 2011
First, I'm pretty sure it's "Yogi Bear."
Second, wouldn't that be "CCP?"
Third, I'm pretty sure it's "PvP."
Fourth, it's "MMORPG."
And fifth, there is plenty of PvP. You just need to know where to look.
Quit crying about your exploits of getting blobbed by large numbers. Because numbers don't always win the fight. Tactics when dealing with numbers and superior firepower are what win the fight.
And to be perfectly honest, a Fleet Commander having the common sense to have a backup force or quick reaction force in place is wise thinking on a logistical and tactical standpoint. Warfare (both real and simulated) is commonly based on deception (creating the illusion of a lesser combat capable force only to spring an elaborate trap). It's basic warfare principles dating back to Sun Tzu when he wrote "The Art of War." But as with anything, if it looks like a trap and it feels like a trap, chances are, it's a trap. "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives." |
JongBlood
15 Minute Outliers Chained Reactions
0
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Posted - 2011.10.15 08:00:00 -
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Conor Todaki wrote:I went to low-sec today.
Guess how many people I saw.
1 warp stabbed rifter.
Oh and a thanatos. Doing whatever outside a station in docking range. You obviously were not in amamake |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
32
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Posted - 2011.10.15 09:34:00 -
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Cearain wrote: Thanks for all your advice. If I wanted to get eve pvp advice from someone who doesnGÇÖt know about eve pvp I would have asked my wife.
IGÇÖm not looking for an arena or a lobby to fight in. So again thanks for your advice but it doesnGÇÖt apply.
But while you are being so generous with your wisdom let me ask you a question: Why is it that people who donGÇÖt know anything about pvp in eve, feel the need to slobber all over threads regarding pvp?
It's good to hear you're not looking at arena/lobby style games - eve really doesn't fit that and you'd probably get a good snicker at how many join this game with the idea that they should be able to "solo" from day 1 against even skilled opponents - It's about as many that feel they should be able to run with complete safety in highsec at all times. Not "massive" numbers but enough to be annoying at times with their gripes.
Easy enough on your question about non-PvP folks - for the same reason that PvP folks tend to be so fast to jump in on topics they don't know about but feel they should express opinions on.
2 years in EVE University - I know folks across every type of space in this game and doing every activity from Jita scamming through CEO's in wormholes, around to FC's in nullsec. When I don't have the answers myself - I generally can direct folks to experts on any given topic so I point people to those experts instead of trying to provide the details myself - as I did with you.
I'm far from an expert on "small gang" PvP in lowsec and nullsec. I've played with it but it's ... "not my cup of tea" so I point you at those who are and who teach about it: Agony.
Seriously - if you are having problems fighting or finding fights with small gangs in EVE... Check out those I recommended to you. They will teach you not only how to fight, which you may already have down, but where to hunt and HOW to hunt successfully. They've a solid rep as a teaching group but do charge ISK for their classes. I haven't heard many complaints about what's taught over the 2 years I've been play.
With all sincerity, good luck with it - that's a tough area to learn about and master but, from those who can pull it of - It tends to sound like a lot of fun for them. |
Caldain Morrow
The Reavers
2
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Posted - 2011.10.15 11:21:00 -
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My! Haven't we lanced a lovely boil of bile and putrescence. I'll grant that I'm no expert on PVP and he ins and outs of it but I do know that I've gone on 100-150 jumps roams before and only found one target that I was willing to shoot. (and that was going through areas that are regularly camped) Other nights, I've gone three jumps into lowsec and gotten blown to kingdom come. I got blown up again but that was because I was taunting my destroyer in a reaper and went back to tweak his tail one jump away from hi-sec.... and it's the most fun I've had in weeks. He made my day. No blob, no BS, just a bit of good fun and me laughing my *** off all the way home.
It's luck of the draw, and if it's getting you down, I will gladly accept all the ships in your hanger as a going away present.
PS: No One likes a whiner. it just ain't sexy. |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
60
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Posted - 2011.10.15 13:20:00 -
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Of course some people like larger fleets and blob "tactics." But if eve just turned fw,or some other mechanic,into something that created lots of small scale pvp - because forces had to be spread out to accomplish goals - people could still have large fleets and bait and blob ganks.
For those who say there is "penty" of small gang pvp, I want to know how much. How many good fights per hour? And I'm not talking about ganking people as they come through a gate. In my experience your going to get about 1 qualtiy fight per 1.5 hours. Sure sometimes you will have 2 or 3 fights in a half hour. But that is going to be extremely rare. Your going to have maybe 10 stretches where you go 2 hours with no fight in between. (thats not say no kills in that time but no real quality fights)
For some, a quality pvp fight every 1.5 hours may be "plenty." I think its really weak.
Oh and please enough with the claims eve bait and blob "tactics" aree real world combat tactics. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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