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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2010.12.20 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Karn Velora Some people just don't like the pvp aspect of the game, and that btw is a HUGE portion of the player base.
Yeah thing is these people quit after 7 months or so of playing.
The churn on people who try to force Eve to play the way they imagine it should is massive.
They are food to be exploited by the people who "get it".
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Karn Velora
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Posted - 2010.12.20 04:16:00 -
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Edited by: Karn Velora on 20/12/2010 04:20:56
Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
Originally by: Karn Velora Some people just don't like the pvp aspect of the game, and that btw is a HUGE portion of the player base.
Yeah thing is these people quit after 7 months or so of playing.
The churn on people who try to force Eve to play the way they imagine it should is massive.
They are food to be exploited by the people who "get it".
Very true. The "carebears" either turn to pvp, or they get driven out. That's actually one of the things that concern me. I can't help wondering how large a player base we would have, if this game wasn't so forcibly hostile all the time. I know it's a rare few that think they belong here in the first place, but look at what a fantastic job CCP are doing with what's really a quite limited player base. What would CCP be capable of, if they had twice as many customers? Even carebear customers. Y'know?
I never saw a problem with letting the non pvp people do their thing. They will help pay for the next expansion, which btw CCP not only release frequently, but free of charge. I prefer droves and droves of protected high-sec carebears over chinese macro bots any day. I think maybe my mistake is assuming that everyone would prefer that.
It is in the games best interest to have a large, happy, paying customer base. I really question the intelligence of people who go out of their way to make players unhappy.
Oh well... I'm just ranting now. I should go back to my own business.
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Rykuss
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Posted - 2010.12.20 08:12:00 -
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There's actually a part of me that hopes the so called "enlightened" people in this game get exactly what they've asked for. There's nothing more satisfying than to see people get what they asked for and ,at that moment, realise that it wasn't such a great idea. The look on their face, it's priceless I tell you. Of course I wouldn't stick around here for that but it would be funny to read about it on the forum.
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Chesty McJubblies
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.12.20 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Rodriqu hulkageddon is a conspirecay by Hulk manufacturers to stimulate sales.
Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum.
That'd save those with chronic hand/eye coordination some face. |
Pitticus
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Posted - 2010.12.20 14:52:00 -
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I made it through the last 2 hulkageddons untouched, if your not a dumb ass its easy to mine in hostile space. I wont share those secrets because im lusting after the rocks you mine. Moar for me after you get blown up
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Killerjock
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Posted - 2010.12.20 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pitticus I made it through the last 2 hulkageddons untouched, if your not a dumb ass its easy to mine in hostile space. I wont share those secrets because im lusting after the rocks you mine. Moar for me after you get blown up
My hulk mines better than yours.
Really tho, Hulkageddon isn't such a big thing. It does lotsa damage but mostly to uninformed players and corps. Last year we had it marked on corp calendar just in case someone forgot. Park the hulk, grab a runner of your choice and go sightseeing. Or mine in a covetor. Or just stay out of high-traffic systems and ice belts. HAGeddoners love high-concentration areas, more killmails for each gankship gone.
Suicide ganking IS a rare thing - HAG is an EVENT. It's a week and there's lotsa prizes, that's why they spend so much on little to no loot. The other 50 weeks of the year ganking is not so common.
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Ben Johnson
Gallente Deep Space Constructions
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Posted - 2010.12.20 21:35:00 -
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Have trolls been getting THIS bad since I last left for a break? My god, this is just sad.
Oh, and for the troll who has just GOT TO WASTE A CHARACTER SLOT, Empire is not a fuzzy-wuzzy go-happy newb land where there is no way you can get killed. Go play WoW. ___________________________________________ CEO of Deep Space Constructions --WEBSITE UNDER CONSTRUCTION-- |
Scarry Peak
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Posted - 2010.12.22 11:28:00 -
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I'm a miner. I just dock up my mining ships for 2 weeks, and scout - and mission - and do all the other things you can do in the game. Really - not rocket science!
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KayvaanShrike
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Posted - 2010.12.22 20:08:00 -
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Dear Mr. Carebear,
I would like to inform you that there is no safe place in eve nor should there be. There are only "safer" places than others, meaning empire. I feel that Hulkageddon is a great way to stop carebears from there form of "cheating". Mining takes no awareness what so ever, you just click on your miners and walk away and swing back periodically to jet your goods. That to me is cheating as much as griefing. Good luck trying to convince CCP to change the rules.
fly safe/mine safe,
(insert every non carebears name here)
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Ra Naveth
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Posted - 2010.12.24 06:58:00 -
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If the goal is to mirror real life, then at the very least insurance policies should be cancelled if the ship is lost in the commission of a crime. I don't know about you guys, but I know if I were to wreck my car, trying to run a armored truck off the road, my insurance company would drop me like a red headed step child!
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NO HULKAGEDDON
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Posted - 2010.12.24 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ra Naveth If the goal is to mirror real life, then at the very least insurance policies should be cancelled if the ship is lost in the commission of a crime. I don't know about you guys, but I know if I were to wreck my car, trying to run a armored truck off the road, my insurance company would drop me like a red headed step child!
I thanks you sirs for your insight comment here. These have very much real life consequence of anguish and suffering and to such crimes should have legal consequence to players. These killing in game can cause unexpected deaths to gamer who not expecting why such should occur?? i lost many hours mining and isk to psychopath who shooted my hulk and was shocking as such could not function to days jobs necessary.
World has many sufferings is crime to make such in escape of game
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Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2010.12.25 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON
Originally by: Ra Naveth If the goal is to mirror real life, then at the very least insurance policies should be cancelled if the ship is lost in the commission of a crime. I don't know about you guys, but I know if I were to wreck my car, trying to run a armored truck off the road, my insurance company would drop me like a red headed step child!
I thanks you sirs for your insight comment here. These have very much real life consequence of anguish and suffering and to such crimes should have legal consequence to players. These killing in game can cause unexpected deaths to gamer who not expecting why such should occur?? i lost many hours mining and isk to psychopath who shooted my hulk and was shocking as such could not function to days jobs necessary.
World has many sufferings is crime to make such in escape of game
I'd say a bigger 'psychopath' is one that can't view EVE has a game, something that is in no way shape or form tangiable.. just a resource for entertainment. Those that treat this Game as some sort of extension of their real life are truly the mentally messed up ones.
And I'd still blow up your hulks, insurance return or not.. you'd still lose more than me. Especially you dumb asses that fit faction/DED gear to your highsec exhumers. Them gisti-Bs are tastie treats. ---------------------------------------- Be a part of a solution instead of a lil whiney *****. |
Calfis
Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.12.25 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON
Originally by: Ra Naveth
World has many sufferings is crime to make such in escape of game
Better to have the psychos killing in a game than in real life, people need an avenue to vent
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Criseyde
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Posted - 2010.12.25 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Laugh with clowns but i shall have last...
I have made the contacts with several mercanary killers corp and justice is coming to psycopath killers! more names above added to list of griefer scums who will merit punishments.
to pick on peacemakers of industry is lowest crime form u will be shamed
Hi, NO HULKAGEDDON! I support your point of view, and happen to have several mercanary corp contacts. I would be more than happy to arrange protection over the entire hulkageddon period for your (and any other) vessels for the sum of 10 million ISK per ship.
Please send the isk to me as soon as possible, so I have time to arrange things. Thanks! |
face donor
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Posted - 2011.02.03 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: face donor on 03/02/2011 17:01:00
Originally by: Yith Za'bolazhi STFU you whining dirty carebear
STFU you pvp wannabe. Youre just too chickensh*t to go down to low sec or 0.0 and fight as it is meant to be in this game.
Easy solution. As these mofo's are giving rewards to best lame ass chickensh*t pvp wannabes - all miners should unite and give rewards for killing their top 10 killers. Gather all miner corps, put together a reward and kill them/pod them 10 times over.
And to be clear, I'm not a miner nor have I any miner characters, but this kinda lame arse sh*t is just unbelievable. - Killing macros is ok, but first you need to determine its a macro. - Killing hard working miners is a crime - where do you think your ships come from....Idiots!
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Kerak Chevaliers
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Kerak Chevaliers on 03/02/2011 17:13:49 Edited by: Kerak Chevaliers on 03/02/2011 17:11:26 Edited by: Kerak Chevaliers on 03/02/2011 17:10:19 'As it was meant to be played'
Right!
You don't have a monopoly on that wisdom and it just looks like petulant special pleading on your part.
Speaking as someone with a Hulk and a Mackinaw (and a couple of Industrials besides), this event is ignored at its peril. And hopefully that means that the bots are those hit hardest by it.
It's hard not to believe you're a miner ... and a dopey one at that. Our corp has a zero-engagement policy with can-flippers and the like. We know when we can't win and it's no skin off our noses. Just a game, innit?
And maybe the more ... emotionally 'affected' individuals might rage-quit after Hulkageddon. Would do their mental stability (and my blood pressure) a world of good.
Edit: Furthermore ... no, your ships don't come from miners. Miners escrow their ore, sure, but industrialists are the bulk buyers (no one in their right mind mines all of the materials for their production.) So eh ... it's actually the venture capitalists that keep this show on the road. And I'm happy just being a tiny cog in the greater machine.
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face donor
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kerak Chevaliers Edited by: Kerak Chevaliers on 03/02/2011 17:11:26 Edited by: Kerak Chevaliers on 03/02/2011 17:10:19 'As it was meant to be played'
Right!
You don't have a monopoly on that wisdom and it just looks like petulant special pleading on your part.
youre drunk or something? I said I'm not a miner. I just respect the people who work hard and have no interest in pvp, therefore they chose the miner profession. As per rest of your reply....yeah, you have to be drunk.
cheers
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Kerak Chevaliers
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:20:00 -
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I haven't been drunk in over a week
But if its one thing you're not doing, it's the job of fooling anyone. If you're not a high-sec miner, and a particularly precious one at that, I'll eat my hat.
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face donor
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:25:00 -
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then get ready to eat. I have only 1 account and zero industrial skills. Quit the game for 2 years and just came back, read forums and couldn't believe what I saw.
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Kerak Chevaliers
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:30:00 -
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Well then, if that's true (really? really?) you need to seriously educate yourself about how the in-game economy works - because as a resource extractor myself I don't want your 'respect' for my alleged hard work.
You know you need to take a little time-out when someone with an actual Hulk (i.e. me) is telling someone who supposedly has no mining assets (i.e. you) that they should STFU. I just can't fathom your buy-in to this.
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face donor
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Posted - 2011.02.03 17:53:00 -
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STFU was directed to the 3rd person who posted in this thread (Yith Za'bolazhi) and not you - why did you think it was about you?
Doesn't really matter what you think of my opinion, just that the event like "hulkageddon" is not fair toward legit players that don't want pvp - hence the high sec and concord protection. If it is supposed to be unsafe for all and all the time, then why bother with high sec at all. Remove the concord and you get much less lag.
Some people come here to spend some of their free time out of the real life and do not want to spamm the scanner (with the lately added delay, its especially nice), looking local all the time (as if you could determine the gankers from the local in a first place).
Gankers say "fit a tank" - hello, why there are cargo expander's and mining laser upgrades in this game then? Sure, Hulk could have 20k+ HP tank (just checked out of curiosity), but you wouldn't be using any of the advantages from specialized modules. Just like fitting a target painter or web on a caldari ship, would cripple the tank.
Anyway, the reason for posting in a first place, was not to plead to anyone. I am saying that kinda event is not justified. How can a group of players decide that their view is right and all the rest should suffer because of it.
All of us pay for playing the game, so live and let live. If you want to fight, go low sec or join 0.0 corp. Why harass the players that don't want to fight.
And I say again - you can kill as many macros as you can. Since that kinda thing is also unjustified. Just give a legit players a chance.
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face donor
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Posted - 2011.02.03 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: face donor on 03/02/2011 18:23:43 In case anyone, is interested, this is how you get a 22k+ HP tank on a Hulk (24k+ with leadership bonuses):
[Hulk, Tank + 1 upgrade] Internal Force Field Array I Mining Laser Upgrade II
Supplemental Thermal Barrier Emitter Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix Invulnerability Field II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Hammerhead II x5
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face donor
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Posted - 2011.02.03 18:30:00 -
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And a 20k HP tank on Mack:
[Mackinaw, Tank] Power Diagnostic System II Internal Force Field Array I
Azeotropic EM Ward Salubrity Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I Supplemental Thermal Barrier Emitter Invulnerability Field II
Ice Harvester II Ice Harvester II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5
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Shakon
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Posted - 2011.02.03 19:14:00 -
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Idiots. It was never to kill macros. Or they would be doing it out in 0.0 with thousands of ratting bots etc.
Its for people to bio mass toons so they dont have to face the fact they suck at PvP vrs targets that shoot back or are not out numbered 10 to 1.
WTF just be honest about it. Bunch of damn crybabys trying to justify being wussies in a friking game. which is sort of funny.
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Spiral Architect
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.02.03 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON I see some finally voices of reasons but still many terrorist. There is 2 solution to this which can be fair to all side and provide positive environment both
1) make high sec unable to shooted guns at other players or to take other players salvage and items. shooted up is only in lowsec and the 0.0 bad places
2) install pve only server for peace makers so to enjoy games without grief and health problems. ships and sales to market may go to both servers but only players who want grief can go to pvp server.
this can make EVE best games for all and keep grief criminals where belong
I lol'd
This is the best thread on the boards!!
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Ingvar Angst
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Posted - 2011.02.03 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Laugh with clowns but i shall have last...
I have made the contacts with several mercanary killers corp and justice is coming to psycopath killers! more names above added to list of griefer scums who will merit punishments.
to pick on peacemakers of industry is lowest crime form u will be shamed
Don't be surprised when a "mercenary" blows your hulk up and cashes in on the reward.
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Onibrak
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.03 20:51:00 -
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As much as it strains my suspension of disbelief, I'm going to trust that this isn't a troll thread and enjoy the crying from someone who thinks Empire is supposed to be "safe".
Even those of us who can't fly a decent combat ship are getting in on the action. Hulk-spotting is my new favorite pass time. Four easy steps, make a public fleet, advertise in local, let people warp to you for the hulk, move on to the next belt/system and repeat. Five hulks down in the last week without a single loss for aggressive actions. Hulkageddon rules.
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garus banta
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Posted - 2011.02.03 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: garus banta on 03/02/2011 21:28:21 If you are serious about hulkageddon, you setup a small POS in an ICE system, bring plenty of ships and resupplies. Once setup there is no need to worry about -10 and you can dock freely without concord intervention.
You are still in danger of being hunted by other players but hey, how many mackinaws are fitted to take on a destroyer!
The fact we have macro miners are people mining all the time in highsec tells me we are NOT doing our job. Any miner should TERRIFIED to go outside and mine anything in highsec!
There is much to do people, don't let -10 discourage us from our true potential!!!
Happy ganking!
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raney ilara
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Posted - 2011.02.03 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Helican Vamberfeld
Carebear tears = best tears
You mean the safest tears... They don't really fight back well and you only have to race against concord response. |
face donor
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Posted - 2011.02.03 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: face donor on 03/02/2011 21:49:17 In Eve, it seems to be appropriate to name certain groups of people, judging by their game style.
Such names being: - carebear (very bad, it means youre the lowest form of life) - scammer (inventive bunch of peeps) - ninja salvager (also inventive, but more cool, since they're flying ships) and so on, so on.....
In the light of people favoring the high sec hulk killing, I would name them as ôAmbitious-half-opposed-lethal-eve-solesö. I think its a suitable name and no more offensive than the others.
While being a bit hypocritical, they're actually inventive peeps. Why hypocritical?
Well, they claim that the high sec is NOT supposed to be safe and you should expect to be killed at any time. Yet they enjoy the comfort of concord protection while roaming around high sec systems in their T1 DPS fitted vessels and no tank - lets be honest, you wouldn't/couldn't do that in low sec or 0.0, but the ôsafe placeö is great when it suits their needs.
When the enemy (that annoying hulk) gets in their way and gets blown up by an ôAmbitious-half-opposed-lethal-eve-soleö and his 7 friends - the insurance and Hulk fittings give back their loss. In fact, they're probably even making money out of it. Great deal, isn't it!?
And god forbid if the foolish miner has more than one vessel and sends his drones to ôguardö his most valuable ship while it tries to get into warp. His other ships just get blown up by the concord û how great is that! You can kill the miner while he is watching it, even if he has 20x T2 Hammers orbiting the ship û he canÆt do sh*t!.
Sweet game mechanics, but you GO AHOLES!
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