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NO HULKAGEDDON	Posted - 2010.12.03 21:18:00 - [1] Hulkageddon announce all over forums as way to illegally destroy miners work and cause targetted griefing to players. Is this not against rules and should not be?? This is in safe space empire and they must hack the police to not respond in time like they should because this is outrageous. Many of the industry spend many hours to build and help market community and then all is ruined by psychopaths who should be making war in 0.0 not creating criminal act in empire safe space. This is to cause real life problems such like stress, anxieties, and maybe even heart attack death from surprise shocks when miner blows up which you have nothing to do about. Think about how evil actions can hurted all of us much worse than just mining ships blowed up. This is community game and hulkageddon shooters hurt real lives too. I ask for all peace miners to petition ccp and csm peoples to make terrorisms illegal and fix empire to be safe like supposed to be.
Rodriqu	Posted - 2010.12.03 21:21:00 - [2] hulkageddon is a conspirecay by Hulk manufacturers to stimulate sales.
Yith Za'bolazhi	Posted - 2010.12.03 21:25:00 - [3] STFU you whining dirty carebear Empire is not safe and never will be in fuzzy wuzzy carebear land... Do you walk down your high street thinking you are safe from pick pockets ? do you go out in the week end and expect some drunken **** not to start a fight ???? Do you honestly expect the police to protect you ??? rofl Is insurance firm your best friend ? or did gorden brown do you a favour... i don't think so !!! No where is safe... hulkageddon is a player run event and its good for the econmey
Helican Vamberfeld	Posted - 2010.12.03 21:26:00 - [4] I support this product and/or service. Got in late last year and still got around 15mil isk in bounties from the sponsors. Carebear tears = best tears
Fattyfatty DingDong	Posted - 2010.12.03 21:28:00 - [5] OP is troll, c/d?
Therion Deus	Posted - 2010.12.03 21:34:00 - [6] Hahaha, haha, hahahahahaha. I almost wet myself reading this. If someone has a heart attack for losing their ship they have bigger problems to worry about than a GAME.
NO HULKAGEDDON	Posted - 2010.12.03 21:35:00 - [7] Originally by: Yith Za'bolazhi STFU you whining dirty carebear Empire is not safe and never will be in fuzzy wuzzy carebear land... Do you walk down your high street thinking you are safe from pick pockets ? do you go out in the week end and expect some drunken **** not to start a fight ???? Do you honestly expect the police to protect you ??? rofl Is insurance firm your best friend ? or did gorden brown do you a favour... i don't think so !!! No where is safe... hulkageddon is a player run event and its good for the econmey ok i report this for threats and cursing to me. yes is safe to walk down street because we live in modern society but maybe for America where govt condone and promote violence against all and permit the citizen to shoot anyone he want on city streets. But not in civilized world. high sec is civilized world and 0.0 is uncivilized world and maybe this pure fact is missed to you?? is time ccp put different server for each so player can chose and play the game he pay for without terrorist to ruin their game!
Kara Deus	Posted - 2010.12.03 21:51:00 - [8] Edited by: Kara Deus on 03/12/2010 21:53:41 Are you really this daft or are you flame baiting?... In my 37 years of existence in America I have never seen anything you just described her to be? You description sounds more like downtown Tikrit. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Also what do you qualify as a threat? Anything that does not agree with your Theology? Accidentally used my alt for this post. Sorry.
Yith Za'bolazhi	Posted - 2010.12.03 21:52:00 - [9] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Originally by: Yith Za'bolazhi STFU you whining dirty carebear Empire is not safe and never will be in fuzzy wuzzy carebear land... Do you walk down your high street thinking you are safe from pick pockets ? do you go out in the week end and expect some drunken **** not to start a fight ???? Do you honestly expect the police to protect you ??? rofl Is insurance firm your best friend ? or did gorden brown do you a favour... i don't think so !!! No where is safe... hulkageddon is a player run event and its good for the econmey ok i report this for threats and cursing to me. yes is safe to walk down street because we live in modern society but maybe for America where govt condone and promote violence against all and permit the citizen to shoot anyone he want on city streets. But not in civilized world. high sec is civilized world and 0.0 is uncivilized world and maybe this pure fact is missed to you?? is time ccp put different server for each so player can chose and play the game he pay for without terrorist to ruin their game! Ye what ever !!! Like i'm really bothered What ever flaots ya high rockin horse darling
Apocrit Vespulus Moderate Inconvenience	Posted - 2010.12.03 22:06:00 - [10] Blatantly obvious troll is obvious. 0/10

Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2010.12.03 22:27:00 - [11] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON yes is safe to walk down street because we live in modern society but maybe for America where govt condone and promote violence against all and permit the citizen to shoot anyone he want on city streets. But not in civilized world. You watch far too many movies, I bet all American women are ****s too huh? Hollywood is NOT real! Eve isn't real life either. The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
NO HULKAGEDDON	Posted - 2010.12.03 22:30:00 - [12] Originally by: Adunh Slavy Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON yes is safe to walk down street because we live in modern society but maybe for America where govt condone and promote violence against all and permit the citizen to shoot anyone he want on city streets. But not in civilized world. You watch far too many movies, I bet all American women are ****s too huh? Hollywood is NOT real! Eve isn't real life either. This is fact if you watch to the news all the violence of usa. but no eve is game but has REAL LIFE consequence such as stresses and anger from being terrorized without chance to survive. then this can make real life health problems which is fact. so yes eve can be real life too, right? i am sadden by industries players here who not support other peace players but choose to assist terrorists. if we not stand up and make games to be safe for peace then all will be anarchist.
the raver Greater Order Of Destruction Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2010.12.03 22:33:00 - [13] Toot toot.... Troll Train Departing.... Full.... General all around jerk...
NO HULKAGEDDON	Posted - 2010.12.03 22:36:00 - [14] and make notes i am putting to list of terrorist those who attempt and defend griefing in supposed to be industry channels
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.12.03 23:07:00 - [15] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Hulkageddon announce all over forums as way to illegally[...] And I kinda' stopped reading there. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Maggie Dezno	Posted - 2010.12.03 23:08:00 - [16] 0/10
Siiee Recycled Heroes	Posted - 2010.12.04 00:04:00 - [17] You wasted a character slot for 10 hours for this thread?
Nierna	Posted - 2010.12.04 00:05:00 - [18] 1. it aint illigal. only illigal thing in eve is bug exploiting and can baiting near rookie systems. 2. reported for flame baiting.
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2010.12.04 00:09:00 - [19] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON This is to cause real life problems such like stress, anxieties, and maybe even heart attack death from surprise shocks when miner blows up which you have nothing to do about I don't know if it's the broken English, the whininess of the emorage, or the laughable self-entitlement, but this post had me in stitches for a good ten minutes. Well done Sir.
Zaboth Garadath Amarr Ore Extraction Corporation	Posted - 2010.12.04 00:46:00 - [20] After reading this I think I'm going to participate in the next Hulkageddon... _____________________________________________ 'If you really want to make someone hate you, explain to them, logically and politely, why they are wrong' - J. Baylock

Riedle Minmatar Wayne's TV and Appliances	Posted - 2010.12.04 01:02:00 - [21] So much dumb, so little time.
roid princess	Posted - 2010.12.04 01:20:00 - [22] I cant vouch for everyone... But I am a Miner( ashamed look ) but why are you gonna get all **y over it ? Corps go hunting in low sec for pirates all the time, Does it really matter if 2 times a year pirates go searching High Sec for miners ? If I had to guess probably 90% of those killed are macro miners anyhow.( thats good for my business) So put your big boy pants on.. and either take a chance and mine( as safely as possible) or take two weeks off and go do missions or salvage or sit in your room and watch **. either way.. " I'm a miner and I support Hulkageddon "
Mart Allini	Posted - 2010.12.04 01:36:00 - [23] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON I ask for all peace miners to petition ccp and csm peoples to make terrorisms illegal and fix empire to be safe like supposed to be. I haven't tried mining peace yet. Is the ISK/hr decent? Nothing is impossible. We just haven't quite worked out how to do it yet.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.04 01:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Siiee You wasted a character slot for 10 hours for this thread? This one really made me laugh. Slade :Signature Temporarily Disabled:
Greg Huff	Posted - 2010.12.04 01:54:00 - [25] Originally by: roid princess " I'm a miner and I support Hulkageddon " I support Hulkageddon as well.... I even fed them an Orca last time.... rotten meanies 6 hours after that my corp-mate logs in and opens with "Heads up - Hulkageddon is going" DOH!! I don't "like" the event, but I respect their right to do it. After all, they are paying the consequences for their actions (over a dozen were taken out when they jumped me). Your whining is doing nothing but continuing to give carebears a bad name. If you're finding that playing Eve is too hazardous to your health you might want to try your hand at Mahjongg Tiles.
mochavay Melt's in your Mouth Industries	Posted - 2010.12.04 03:02:00 - [26] Last time I looked EVE is a pvp game. There is no safe place for anything. Hulkageddon is part of it get over it and adjust your play style a bit or get blowed up and emorage quit. The choice is yours to make. CCP will do nothing to stop it as it is not breaking any rules. A miner at heart but not enough iskies in it for me anymore
Truelestia	Posted - 2010.12.04 05:51:00 - [27] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON This is in safe space empire and they must hack the police to not respond in time like they should because this is outrageous. Slight problem An arty Thrasher can single volley an exhumer. To put into context, lets say your walking down the street and some guy runs up and shoots you. Are you gonna be mad because the police didnt get there between the time the bullet left the barrel and hit you? Seems kinda unrealistic er... realistic I forget. Its that fast m8
Tau Cabalander Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.04 06:26:00 - [28] Originally by: Truelestia An arty Thrasher can single volley an exhumer. The Hulk-a-geddon killboards never cease to amaze me on just how many bad fits are possible, and not just Hulks, the Orca ones too. I also wonder if they suddenly noticed a spike in local, or were already mining in a high-pop and high-risk system to begin with. Or were watching the dscan for approaching ships. I was mining in a system recently (too cheap to buy kernite for a storyline) and there was a grand total of 3 people in the system. I don't like systems with more people than belts.
Kemo Sabi	Posted - 2010.12.04 08:14:00 - [29] This could be used in a textbook as proof that you don't have to cleverly disguise your trolling if you chose the righ topic and place. At least moderate success is guaranteed
Sturmwolke	Posted - 2010.12.04 08:31:00 - [30] I'm mulling if I should donate a prize for the best tanked Hulk kill. Prize, a fully tanked Hulk, all fittings inluded

Halath Riddle	Posted - 2010.12.04 08:57:00 - [31] My Hulk is eagerly waiting to get some kills. Alpha Mike Foxtrot
JaveMONSTER Amarr Messier 57	Posted - 2010.12.04 10:06:00 - [32] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Hulkageddon announce all over forums as way to illegally destroy miners work and cause targetted griefing to players. Is this not against rules and should not be?? This is in safe space empire and they must hack the police to not respond in time like they should because this is outrageous. Many of the industry spend many hours to build and help market community and then all is ruined by psychopaths who should be making war in 0.0 not creating criminal act in empire safe space. This is to cause real life problems such like stress, anxieties, and maybe even heart attack death from surprise shocks when miner blows up which you have nothing to do about. Think about how evil actions can hurted all of us much worse than just mining ships blowed up. This is community game and hulkageddon shooters hurt real lives too. I ask for all peace miners to petition ccp and csm peoples to make terrorisms illegal and fix empire to be safe like supposed to be. It's just not so cool kids trying to be cool. That's what suicide ganking is all about.
Sedilis Lead Farmers	Posted - 2010.12.04 10:35:00 - [33] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Hulkageddon... this not against rules and should not be Quite right
Xearal Minmatar SOL Industries Black Thorne Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.04 11:12:00 - [34] As a miner and industrialist, I don't see the problem with hulkageddon. This game is a sandbox, that's what makes this game so great, anyone can do anything in it. And there's consequences for everything. And if you're that worked over losing a ship.. maybe you should go back to rookie school, one of the lessons in there was that losing ships happens all the time in this game, and you should learn to deal with it. Sure, when I lose an expensive ship, I don't like it either, but that's part of the game, and not something to go raging over. The fact that there's people actively hunting for ya makes it more exciting. When the incursion patch came last tuesday, I was one of the first people to get myself a couple of Noctis BPO's. Getting there, and getting out past all the campers, that was GREAT! It was exciting to have serious opponents who were out there gunning for me and my little ship filled with precious cargo. I hadn't had so much fun in a long while. So as a miner, an industrialist, and a blockade runner, I say, LONG LIVE HULKAGEDDON! LONG LIVE GATECAMPS! I'm half tempted to grab my alt and go hulk hunting myself.

CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.04 11:51:00 - [35] Thread cleaned. Please stay on topic. Navigator Senior Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

Dasola Minmatar	Posted - 2010.12.04 12:39:00 - [36] well participants of this hulk hanting are carebears, theyre too damn scared for real pvp so they go against weak hulks. What confuses me is they sound so proud for action that is like taking candy from small children. But i quess sandbox is excuse to behave like duchbag. After all its higly unlikely one of those pilot that loses hulk show your doorstep to hit you with baseball bat.
Zaboth Garadath Amarr Ore Extraction Corporation	Posted - 2010.12.04 12:59:00 - [37] Originally by: Dasola well participants of this hulk hanting are carebears, theyre too damn scared for real pvp so they go against weak hulks. What confuses me is they sound so proud for action that is like taking candy from small children. But i quess sandbox is excuse to behave like duchbag. After all its higly unlikely one of those pilot that loses hulk show your doorstep to hit you with baseball bat. There are actually epic prizes to be won from participating _____________________________________________ 'If you really want to make someone hate you, explain to them, logically and politely, why they are wrong' - J. Baylock
Jaxkon Lee	Posted - 2010.12.04 14:22:00 - [38] Originally by: Dasola well participants of this hulk hanting are carebears, theyre too damn scared for real pvp so they go against weak hulks. What confuses me is they sound so proud for action that is like taking candy from small children. But i quess sandbox is excuse to behave like duchbag. After all its higly unlikely one of those pilot that loses hulk show your doorstep to hit you with baseball bat. no. the participants of hulkageddon are the traders who see is coming and profit. Where you aware last year Jita sold all the way out of catalysts? And thats the number 2 ship to use? look how many sold at huge profits. look at thrashers. you don't have to join them, and you don't have to stop mining. this is more of a market opportunity than anything else and your being told ahead of time where what and when. If you can't figure out how to hop on this golden goose, isk ****ting donkey then you really, really fail at eve. set a goal like keeping jita full of thrashers. you don't even need to research the print the profits are gonna be that good. the big boys stage this event to keep their inventory of hulks rotated. its not about tears or ganking or acting like a douchebag. only pure raw isk. enjoy.
heheheh Phoenix Club	Posted - 2010.12.04 14:46:00 - [39] Originally by: Zaboth Garadath After reading this I think I'm going to participate in the next Hulkageddon... +1 troll or not, every time i see a whine thread it makes me want to get involved.
Emporer Norton	Posted - 2010.12.04 19:10:00 - [40] Next hulkageddon will prolly include noctis as well:)

Cergorach Amarr The Helix Foundation	Posted - 2010.12.04 22:06:00 - [41] Originally by: Rodriqu hulkageddon is a conspirecay by Hulk manufacturers to stimulate sales. And let's not forget the mineral speculators, folks looking into their looking glasses are estimating serious price rises in the minerals market...
roid princess	Posted - 2010.12.04 22:13:00 - [42] I am a miner and i love it..... you cant really call it griefing if they give you a 2 month notice of the day and time ?
Mira Robinson Arkons of Myth	Posted - 2010.12.04 23:45:00 - [43] As a dedicated miner, am I the happiest about Hulkageddon? No. CCP has put a system in place that punishes offenders. Is it perfect? No. Insurance payouts from getting CONCORDED needs to GO. But seriously, dock the Hulk for 2 weeks and let them have their fun. People like you complain every year. And guess what. *That's what they want you to do.* ----------------------------- Welcome to EVE. Ship happens.
NO HULKAGEDDON	Posted - 2010.12.05 00:17:00 - [44] Originally by: Mira Robinson As a dedicated miner, am I the happiest about Hulkageddon? No. CCP has put a system in place that punishes offenders. Is it perfect? No. Insurance payouts from getting CONCORDED needs to GO. But seriously, dock the Hulk for 2 weeks and let them have their fun. People like you complain every year. And guess what. *That's what they want you to do.* ok so no offer solutions to solve this terrorism but u must support it. adding mira robinson as name on terror list
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions	Posted - 2010.12.05 00:29:00 - [45] You know, if all the ebil piwates are ganking Hulks in hi sec it might just be prudent to mine in low sec for two weeks. Maybe even turn a healthy profit given the massive virginal rocks and fluctuation in mineral prices. You know, just a thought. Personally I don't care one way or the other about the event. But the threads it engenders (on both sides) are priceless.
Mira Robinson Arkons of Myth	Posted - 2010.12.05 00:45:00 - [46] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Originally by: Mira Robinson As a dedicated miner, am I the happiest about Hulkageddon? No. CCP has put a system in place that punishes offenders. Is it perfect? No. Insurance payouts from getting CONCORDED needs to GO. But seriously, dock the Hulk for 2 weeks and let them have their fun. People like you complain every year. And guess what. *That's what they want you to do.* ok so no offer solutions to solve this terrorism but u must support it. adding mira robinson as name on terror list Okay. Now I hope you get popped. Stop being so petty, stop seeing things in black and white, and play the damn game. ----------------------------- Welcome to EVE. Ship happens.
roid princess	Posted - 2010.12.05 03:27:00 - [47] I heard that Hulkageddon happens in all systems But " RANCER " it is designated a safe zone for those who want to sit out...
Dr Caymus Gallente Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune	Posted - 2010.12.05 19:49:00 - [48] Edited by: Dr Caymus on 05/12/2010 19:51:04 Aw, come on, there's nothing wrong with Hulkageddon. It's fun! Hulkageddon promotes healthy interaction between members of the community. It's a way to meet new people, make new friends and share the experiences of a lifetime. What player would want to miss this opportunity to hone his or her piloting skills? If nothing else, you'll at least have something exciting to share with your relatives in holiday dinner table conversation, rather than the agonizingly dull monologue about how the job is going, or how you did in school. Just think of the pride uncle Dave will exude when you report how many Hulks you shot in secure space, or the genuine compassion aunt Nancy will extend upon hearing about the loss of your best mining ship. Now really... does it get any better than that?? Hulkageddon. It's just plain fun. Dr Caymus -=ATI=-
Dukkhada	Posted - 2010.12.05 20:52:00 - [49] Hulkageddon benefits miners. Just watch your earnings go up.
Zircon Dasher	Posted - 2010.12.05 21:10:00 - [50] This is the thread to boost our post count right?

Damien Du'Pont	Posted - 2010.12.05 21:38:00 - [51] Originally by: Dr Caymus Edited by: Dr Caymus on 05/12/2010 19:51:04 Aw, come on, there's nothing wrong with Hulkageddon. It's fun! Hulkageddon promotes healthy interaction between members of the community. It's a way to meet new people, make new friends and share the experiences of a lifetime. What player would want to miss this opportunity to hone his or her piloting skills? If destroying hulks is an experience of a lifetime, you surely need to get out more.
NO HULKAGEDDON	Posted - 2010.12.05 23:41:00 - [52] Originally by: Dr Caymus Edited by: Dr Caymus on 05/12/2010 19:51:04 Aw, come on, there's nothing wrong with Hulkageddon. It's fun! Hulkageddon promotes healthy interaction between members of the community. It's a way to meet new people, make new friends and share the experiences of a lifetime. What player would want to miss this opportunity to hone his or her piloting skills? If nothing else, you'll at least have something exciting to share with your relatives in holiday dinner table conversation, rather than the agonizingly dull monologue about how the job is going, or how you did in school. Just think of the pride uncle Dave will exude when you report how many Hulks you shot in secure space, or the genuine compassion aunt Nancy will extend upon hearing about the loss of your best mining ship. Now really... does it get any better than that?? Hulkageddon. It's just plain fun. Dr Caymus -=ATI=- sigh another terrorist, so many psychopaths who want ruin other people game and life. adding dr caymus as terrorist and enemy of industrialist. i will turn over these list with merc to make war to terrorist of eve
Riedle Minmatar Wayne's TV and Appliances	Posted - 2010.12.06 00:05:00 - [53] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Originally by: Dr Caymus Edited by: Dr Caymus on 05/12/2010 19:51:04 Aw, come on, there's nothing wrong with Hulkageddon. It's fun! Hulkageddon promotes healthy interaction between members of the community. It's a way to meet new people, make new friends and share the experiences of a lifetime. What player would want to miss this opportunity to hone his or her piloting skills? If nothing else, you'll at least have something exciting to share with your relatives in holiday dinner table conversation, rather than the agonizingly dull monologue about how the job is going, or how you did in school. Just think of the pride uncle Dave will exude when you report how many Hulks you shot in secure space, or the genuine compassion aunt Nancy will extend upon hearing about the loss of your best mining ship. Now really... does it get any better than that?? Hulkageddon. It's just plain fun. Dr Caymus -=ATI=- sigh another terrorist, so many psychopaths who want ruin other people game and life. adding dr caymus as terrorist and enemy of industrialist. i will turn over these list with merc to make war to terrorist of eve I too am terrorist. Please add me to list. Death to Miners!!!?
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.12.06 00:05:00 - [54] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON ok so no offer solutions to solve this terrorism but u must support it. adding mira robinson as name on terror list ROFL This guy has to be a Hulkageddon promo troll. Terrorism? Stop watching FOX "News". Add me to the "terror list". Do you know anywhere that the complete eve pilots list can be downloaded?
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2010.12.06 00:58:00 - [55] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON sigh another terrorist, so many psychopaths who want ruin other people game and life. adding dr caymus as terrorist and enemy of industrialist. i will turn over these list with merc to make war to terrorist of eve They witness me operating my automobile They are prejudiced
Killstealing	Posted - 2010.12.06 02:36:00 - [56] Originally by: Jovan Geldon Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON sigh another terrorist, so many psychopaths who want ruin other people game and life. adding dr caymus as terrorist and enemy of industrialist. i will turn over these list with merc to make war to terrorist of eve They witness me operating my automobile They are prejudiced jovan keepin' it real yea yea prejudicers gon' prejudice
Mira Robinson Arkons of Myth	Posted - 2010.12.06 06:01:00 - [57] NOHULK is probably like those "patriots" who think that if you don't oppose them completely, you must support them completely. Just one of those dweebs that see things in black and white like that. ----------------------------- Welcome to EVE. Ship happens.
Eastman Color	Posted - 2010.12.06 08:33:00 - [58] OP's playing the wrong game. Go find a non-PvP game and stfu
Dasola Minmatar	Posted - 2010.12.06 12:09:00 - [59] Originally by: Eastman Color OP's playing the wrong game. Go find a non-PvP game and stfu Well lets not forget eve is not only pvp-game. Its sandbox including such things as pvp, pve, industry, politics (mostly in 0.0), etc.... So claiming it to be "pvp-game" is really false. Without industry you fellows soon run out of ships to fly and enemies to shoot. Enjoy your alliance wars in free noobships
Aunty Nora	Posted - 2010.12.06 12:57:00 - [60] Originally by: Dasola Originally by: Eastman Color OP's playing the wrong game. Go find a non-PvP game and stfu Well lets not forget eve is not only pvp-game. Its sandbox including such things as pvp, pve, industry, politics (mostly in 0.0), etc.... So claiming it to be "pvp-game" is really false. Without industry you fellows soon run out of ships to fly and enemies to shoot. Enjoy your alliance wars in free noobships It is a PVP game, everything apart from solo mission play is PVP, you cannot make any money out of industry without doing any PVP, using the market is PVP, politocs is PVP.

Elizabetha Pith	Posted - 2010.12.06 15:11:00 - [61] you see that thing over there on the shelf, that's your life......get a grip of it!
Julia Venatrix	Posted - 2010.12.06 15:14:00 - [62] Originally by: Riedle I too am terrorist. Please add me to list. Death to Miners!!!? I am a Miner. Death to my competition! Go Hulkageddon! --- Some days you are the pigeon, and some the statue.
NO HULKAGEDDON	Posted - 2010.12.06 17:02:00 - [63] I see some finally voices of reasons but still many terrorist. There is 2 solution to this which can be fair to all side and provide positive environment both 1) make high sec unable to shooted guns at other players or to take other players salvage and items. shooted up is only in lowsec and the 0.0 bad places 2) install pve only server for peace makers so to enjoy games without grief and health problems. ships and sales to market may go to both servers but only players who want grief can go to pvp server. this can make EVE best games for all and keep grief criminals where belong
Mira Robinson Arkons of Myth	Posted - 2010.12.06 19:29:00 - [64] NOHULK, Please please PLEASE stop playing EvE. You're clearly not enjoying yourself, and you come on here demanding change to the game's most beautiful feature, the open, player-controlled sandbox. That, and you're branding ANYONE not 100% against it a "terrorist", and making a list like an elementary school kid makes a list of bullies to get back at later. Yeesh, now I know why carebears are frowned upon, even though I am mostly one. But I WELCOME player-run wars. So please, get off, or at least, learn proper english grammar. Good day. YOU are the terrorist, who wants to change EvE for the worse. ----------------------------- Welcome to EVE. Ship happens.
R3V3L	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:08:00 - [65] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON This is to cause real life problems such like stress, anxieties, and maybe even heart attack death from surprise shocks when miner blows up which you have nothing to do about. I thought you were joking until I read your name... Its a game.
Endura Touscoday	Posted - 2010.12.06 21:29:00 - [66] As a dedicated miner i fully support Hulkagedon. It makes my profits better (If only for a time) & its all in good fun. If you are seriously requesting to have a game with a sole PVP Server & a sole PVE Server its simple, play guild wars. They have this, go off & grind to your heartÆs content.
William Cooly Sol Enterprises	Posted - 2010.12.06 21:30:00 - [67] QQ Moar The tears are delicious. - I troll stupid people.
Kiyirari All Star Shipyards	Posted - 2010.12.06 21:39:00 - [68] Now i sell a few bpc's, some of these may be used indirectly in suicide ganking hulks etc... This makes me undirectly involved in hulkageddon by what ever detattchment, this would also mean that the unsuspecting miner selling his ore/minerals on the open market which may be used in building said ship for ganking hulks would also be a suspected terrorist OMG... conspiracy.... we are all terrorist Revenge is my god and my guns are her angels
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2010.12.06 22:49:00 - [69] Originally by: Helican Vamberfeld Pirate tears = best tears fixed
Dr Chau Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.07 06:02:00 - [70] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Hulkageddon announce all over forums as way to illegally destroy miners work and cause targetted griefing to players. Is this not against rules and should not be?? This is in safe space empire and they must hack the police to not respond in time like they should because this is outrageous. Many of the industry spend many hours to build and help market community and then all is ruined by psychopaths who should be making war in 0.0 not creating criminal act in empire safe space. This is to cause real life problems such like stress, anxieties, and maybe even heart attack death from surprise shocks when miner blows up which you have nothing to do about. Think about how evil actions can hurted all of us much worse than just mining ships blowed up. This is community game and hulkageddon shooters hurt real lives too. I ask for all peace miners to petition ccp and csm peoples to make terrorisms illegal and fix empire to be safe like supposed to be. Your first mistake was assuming this so-called "Safe Space" exists anywhere in the world of Eve.

Gillaboo	Posted - 2010.12.07 11:59:00 - [71] I love it...still months away and the tears are sweet and juicy already... -------------------------------------------------------- This space For Rent.
Commander Shipping	Posted - 2010.12.07 13:01:00 - [72] Meah.. 16.000 hulks in space, 100 pilots will try to destroy them, i think i am safe. Chance is like... like... same as get hit by a car on the way home. Dont care.
Atkyaz Dreadstalker Minmatar The Lunatic Collective Corcoran State	Posted - 2010.12.07 16:30:00 - [73] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON I see some finally voices of reasons but still many terrorist. There is 2 solution to this which can be fair to all side and provide positive environment both 1) make high sec unable to shooted guns at other players or to take other players salvage and items. shooted up is only in lowsec and the 0.0 bad places 2) install pve only server for peace makers so to enjoy games without grief and health problems. ships and sales to market may go to both servers but only players who want grief can go to pvp server. this can make EVE best games for all and keep grief criminals where belong No offense but I think you are kinda missing the point of EVE. It is supposed to be a simulated hostile universe. Yes it sucks to get your mining ships ganked, especially in high sec. But it is not against the game rules. illegal as in criminal activity in game, yes, but not against the game EULA and CCP will NOT change that. High sec is high security space but it is not 100% safe, just safe in relation to low sec, or Null. Even some Null sectors can be considered safe if you are in the alliance holding SOV and they do a good job protecting their space. It is like the real world. A city with a good police force is not crime free just much safer than a city in a unstable county with limited or no police, or an inner city area where the criminals out number the police. Safety is relative. High sec does not mean you are or should be 100% safe from being attacked, it just means there is extra security there to protect you. Changing high sec so that players can not attack other players makes absolutely no sense. If you do not want to risk losing your Hulk put a decent tank on it so you survive until the cavalry arrives, a Hulk can easily handle a decent tank. And do not mine during Hulkageddon. It is s simple as that. EVE is as it should be. Learn to love it as it is like everybody else.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.12.07 16:44:00 - [74] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON This is to cause real life problems such like stress, anxieties, and maybe even heart attack death from surprise shocks when miner blows up which you have nothing to do about. Oh god lol. It's not a troll if it is intended to amuse rather than irritate. - I wish I was a three foot tall doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes
Jaik7	Posted - 2010.12.07 19:20:00 - [75] Originally by: Dasola Originally by: Eastman Color OP's playing the wrong game. Go find a non-PvP game and stfu Well lets not forget eve is not only pvp-game. Its sandbox including such things as pvp, pve, industry, politics (mostly in 0.0), etc.... So claiming it to be "pvp-game" is really false. Without industry you fellows soon run out of ships to fly and enemies to shoot. Enjoy your alliance wars in free noobships i'd join a nullsec alliance if they fought in noobship blobs, that'd be fun!
oldmanst4r Minmatar	Posted - 2010.12.08 20:39:00 - [76] Posting to confirm that the OP is a Helicity Boson alt and that this is a publicity stunt. Originally by: CCP Shadow snip Castration successful. Shadow.
NO HULKAGEDDON	Posted - 2010.12.09 03:40:00 - [77] Originally by: oldmanst4r Posting to confirm that the OP is a Helicity Boson alt and that this is a publicity stunt. this is slander and i am no friend of hellkitty boston who organizes terror to all miners and peacemakers. now that such attacks to me occur i will be handed over list of terrorist to powerful merc corps in game and rest assure make hulks safe. i try to appeal to peace but now must resort to this because no one step up for miners and safety which safe high sec space supposed to have.
Desigre Minmatar	Posted - 2010.12.09 07:44:00 - [78] you know what would be proper counter to hulkkageddon? Mining strike. 2 months of no mining, should teach those grefing idiots a lesson. When simple frigate cost 1+ mil... But then again, theres so many miners in this game is imbossible to organise such counter. And as previous years hulkkageddon results have shown. Effects of hulkkagedon are slim. Mineral prices barely move even temporary, hulks has short plip in its price, etc... Just wondering how can you be so proud of having ganged nearly defenceless hulk in highsec. Thats like stealing candy from little kid.
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.12.09 11:25:00 - [79] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON 1) make high sec unable to shooted guns at other players 2) install pve only server Quit. Eve.
Commander Shipping	Posted - 2010.12.09 12:44:00 - [80] Originally by: Desigre Thats like stealing candy from little kid. I am miner myself, but this sounds like fun!

Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.12.09 14:22:00 - [81] The best thing about running hulkageddon, is that I don't have to do promotion... idiots and crybabies do it for me \o/
vance leon	Posted - 2010.12.09 15:24:00 - [82] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Originally by: oldmanst4r Posting to confirm that the OP is a Helicity Boson alt and that this is a publicity stunt. this is slander and i am no friend of hellkitty boston who organizes terror to all miners and peacemakers. now that such attacks to me occur i will be handed over list of terrorist to powerful merc corps in game and rest assure make hulks saf i try to appeal to peace but now must resort to this because no one step up for miners and safety which safe high sec space supposed to have. I hope you have the isk to support That otherwise I shall have to laugh at the foolishness of such an ultimatum. Oh btw Cthulhu for president 2012!
Jaik7	Posted - 2010.12.09 16:07:00 - [83] if such a thing as a strike were declared, and widely supported, i'd gladly forgo the income from my mining alt for a month. I'd also expand the strike to PI materials, moon stuffs, and ice products. I'd just love to hear the outrage and pirate tears.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.12.10 00:37:00 - [84] Originally by: Helicity Boson The best thing about running hulkageddon, is that I don't have to do promotion... idiots and crybabies do it for me \o/ Can't you also make an extension to Hulkageddon? A fleet that will roam botland 0.0 and break some RMTers faces? They don't just bot, they also sell money. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Mal Lokrano Gallente The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.10 00:42:00 - [85] 6/10, at least he got responses _____ When going to a party with wine, women, and song. Always ascertain the vintage of the first two. Your friendly neighborhood pod liberator.
Percy Highlander	Posted - 2010.12.10 06:36:00 - [86] Edited by: Percy Highlander on 10/12/2010 06:42:54 Edited by: Percy Highlander on 10/12/2010 06:40:32 I heard most of hulk kills were bots anyways
MisterNick	Posted - 2010.12.10 12:55:00 - [87] I first arrved in Eve some time after Hulkageddon III had finished, but having read up on it, I have to say it sounds hilarious It will stimulate the sales of hulks, destroyers, and battleships, from what I read. And will also briefly increase the prices on minerals, again good news for industry. And as a bonus it helps whiners like the OP here to realise that they may well need to learn how to chill out and just laugh at their own misfortune sometimes. I think i'm gonna stack up a load of Catalysts and join in the next one
Bakkachan	Posted - 2010.12.10 19:13:00 - [88] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON i try to appeal to peace but now must resort to this because no one step up for miners and safety which safe high sec space supposed to have. I think I will pop one just for this line alone.
Rawrclaw	Posted - 2010.12.11 00:27:00 - [89] 0/10
Nicky's Tomb	Posted - 2010.12.11 11:15:00 - [90] Always found these vids funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndWUlntJ58U

Rusty Waynne Caldari Waynne Industries	Posted - 2010.12.11 15:27:00 - [91] Edited by: Rusty Waynne on 11/12/2010 15:27:37 Glad I invested training into efficient mission running ships. That way when Hulkageddon comes I can take a break from mining and do some lvl4's.
Cal YeNosa	Posted - 2010.12.11 22:05:00 - [92] Originally by: Therion Deus Hahaha, haha, hahahahahaha. I almost wet myself reading this. If someone has a heart attack for losing their ship they have bigger problems to worry about than a GAME. Oh that is So true. ROFL!!! It is just a game to have fun in.
Sheila Fay	Posted - 2010.12.12 18:35:00 - [93] I am a care bear at heart and do understand some of the concerns of those speaking out against Hulkageddon: In EvE every action has its concequences.... except hulkageddon.... for those committing the acts. Killing Hulks is easy and completely free for those doing it. And they have a good chance to win a lot in it. The fact that it seems like a free ticket contradicts the basic concept of EvE. I think we should not and can not ban "Hulkageddons" for that breaks the concept of the sandbox. My solution would be (and I think it also has larger implications in warfare etc.) to make it possible for players to determine who they want to trade with or not. Right now if I buy, I can not tell who I buy from. If I sell I can not tell who I sell to. Only after the fact I know a name. If I'm a carebear and I have to accept PvP players destroying my Hulk, at least I would like to have the opportunity to withhold my minerals from the players that f***ed my ship to peaces. That would restore a bit of the balance in the game and give the mining and production community a bit of teeth to bite back with like trade embargoes. At least organisers and winners will know that their alts will be paying premium prices for everything after collecting the profits from Hulkageddon. I always wondered why I could not determine more closely who I want to sell to or not. Supplying my enemy does not sound like a good idea. If CCP wants to restore some balance here.... that would be what I would do.
Sheila Fay	Posted - 2010.12.12 20:01:00 - [94] Edited by: Sheila Fay on 12/12/2010 20:01:39 << sorry - double post >>
Greg Huff	Posted - 2010.12.12 20:55:00 - [95] Edited by: Greg Huff on 12/12/2010 20:56:08 Originally by: Sheila Fay I am a care bear at heart and do understand some of the concerns of those speaking out against Hulkageddon: In EvE every action has its concequences.... except hulkageddon.... for those committing the acts. Killing Hulks is easy and completely free for those doing it. And they have a good chance to win a lot in it. The fact that it seems like a free ticket contradicts the basic concept of EvE. They do not go without consequence. From the attacks I've seen, counting one against me, they lose far more ships than they kill. They also take security status hits, which might be relatively minor in the overall scheme, but it's something. Originally by: Sheila Fay I think we should not and can not ban "Hulkageddons" for that breaks the concept of the sandbox. My solution would be (and I think it also has larger implications in warfare etc.) to make it possible for players to determine who they want to trade with or not. Right now if I buy, I can not tell who I buy from. If I sell I can not tell who I sell to. Only after the fact I know a name. If I'm a carebear and I have to accept PvP players destroying my Hulk, at least I would like to have the opportunity to withhold my minerals from the players that f***ed my ship to peaces. That would restore a bit of the balance in the game and give the mining and production community a bit of teeth to bite back with like trade embargoes. At least organisers and winners will know that their alts will be paying premium prices for everything after collecting the profits from Hulkageddon. I always wondered why I could not determine more closely who I want to sell to or not. Supplying my enemy does not sound like a good idea. If CCP wants to restore some balance here.... that would be what I would do. Have you thought about selling by contract? Or watch who buys your goods then start a discussion with them. You might be able to make some private business arrangements.
Master Flakattack	Posted - 2010.12.13 23:20:00 - [96] Originally by: Greg Huff They do not go without consequence. From the attacks I've seen, counting one against me, they lose far more ships than they kill. They also take security status hits, which might be relatively minor in the overall scheme, but it's something. If the sec status hit was anything to worry about, do you honestly think Hulkageddon would be so popular? I think the man made a point. EVE is a game of actions and consequences. Popping hulks is a fairly consequence free action, especially because many gankers use alts and sit in NPC corps. Even if gankers were to hit a well armed and very angry corporation, what is said corporation going to do to a bunch of Hulkageddon alts? Now I know the traders and miners keep themselves stocked in preparation for the event... but what would happen if Hulkageddon were to drag on longer than normal? And in the nature of such questions, would Hulkageddon be as popular as it is if pirates hadn't driven everyone out of low-sec? My advice to the miners: get some missions in or scan down some plexes or something. Don't give the gankers the satisfaction of padding their killboards with your name.
DrGreenthumb UnceUnce	Posted - 2010.12.14 03:01:00 - [97] OP = Troll?
MightyChin	Posted - 2010.12.14 15:30:00 - [98] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON This is in safe space empire and they must hack the police to not respond in time like they should because this is outrageous. I give you a 6/10 just because of all the people you where able to troll
TheGoodTrader	Posted - 2010.12.15 14:53:00 - [99] Show us on the doll where the bad GankalystÖ touched you. Yes I am a miner and I support Hulkaggedon. Nothing better than watching your competition drown in their own tears.
Eastman Color	Posted - 2010.12.15 15:27:00 - [100] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Is this not against rules and should not be?? No it's not, eve is pvp, unlucky

Xirin	Posted - 2010.12.15 15:38:00 - [101] Kept mining in Hulks during the last Hulkageddon. Kept hoping someone would try to gank me, you know, bring some excitement to the boredom that is mining. Kept my eye on local excitedly expecting a gang of tempests to jump in! Left disappointed...
NO HULKAGEDDON	Posted - 2010.12.15 18:45:00 - [102] Laugh with clowns but i shall have last... I have made the contacts with several mercanary killers corp and justice is coming to psycopath killers! more names above added to list of griefer scums who will merit punishments. to pick on peacemakers of industry is lowest crime form u will be shamed
nmap	Posted - 2010.12.15 22:29:00 - [103] Edited by: nmap on 15/12/2010 22:32:26 Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Laugh with clowns but i shall have last... I have made the contacts with several mercanary killers corp and justice is coming to psycopath killers! more names above added to list of griefer scums who will merit punishments. to pick on peacemakers of industry is lowest crime form u will be shamed Blowhard.
Korg Leaf Time Bandits.	Posted - 2010.12.16 12:30:00 - [104] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Laugh with clowns but i shall have last... I have made the contacts with several mercanary killers corp and justice is coming to psycopath killers! more names above added to list of griefer scums who will merit punishments. to pick on peacemakers of industry is lowest crime form u will be shamed Add me to that list, im not actually going to participate this year, but I love a good wardec. Plus I doubt many of the good merc corps would bother with your contract.
Andrea Griffin	Posted - 2010.12.16 14:58:00 - [105] I call shenanigans. NO HULKAGEDDON is Helicity Boson's alt. There's just no way that someone can be this unintelligent. Alright, I take that back. Ankhabmepedfkfdkldfapd was pretty crazy. - "When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed." - CCP Big Dumb Object
Tasko Pal Spallated Garniferous Schist	Posted - 2010.12.16 15:46:00 - [106] Originally by: TheGoodTrader Show us on the doll where the bad GankalystÖ touched you. Yes I am a miner and I support Hulkaggedon. Nothing better than watching your competition drown in their own tears. LOL. There were many red flag touches. Originally by: MightyChin Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON This is in safe space empire and they must hack the police to not respond in time like they should because this is outrageous. I give you a 6/10 just because of all the people you where able to troll This thread is like those restaurants with the annoying mascots. You keep coming back for the greasy cheeseburgers. As an aside, I googled Hulkaggeddon a while ago and didn't see any info on when the next bout of it will happen (got the webpage for the last one). Could someone point me to info on the latest for this exotic Eve experience?
Lady Ayeipsia	Posted - 2010.12.16 15:53:00 - [107] Honestly, so the miners who know about Hulkageadon dock up for a week, or they enjoy it themselves. Nothing's quite as satisfying as watching that ganker get popped by concord because your Hulk is tank beyond belief. Or if you are worried, go mine in a Rokh. Sure, not as fast and the cargo hold isn't quite as big, but it's got a nice shield buffer. With the right setup, you can run 8 lasers, 2 invuln fields, and then some. Stay aligned out, keep a set of ECM drones on hand, and you should be fine. Or even better, have some RR handy. Really, it's not that big of an issue.
egot istical	Posted - 2010.12.16 19:15:00 - [108] Man up or **** off to wow.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.12.17 13:11:00 - [109] Originally by: Andrea Griffin I call shenanigans. NO HULKAGEDDON is Helicity Boson's alt. There's just no way that someone can be this unintelligent. Alright, I take that back. Ankhabmepedfkfdkldfapd was pretty crazy. I take offense to that. My spelling is far superior, also this happens every time, and suddenly every moron is my alt so meh. Also, most people in this thread are ill-informed, or just monumentally stupid. Pirates don't use alts to kill hulks, last year's winner sure didn't. We are already -10, we don't care about sec status hits. Also, please do "tank" your hulk, I'm sure it will help you a lot. RR too! Do you people even PLAY this game?
Aphrodite Skripalle Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2010.12.17 13:52:00 - [110] The unfair Point of Hulkageddon for me is, 0.0 high skilled and sometimes bored long time players who can make 100-300 mill a day with ratting in 0.0 space are ganking Hulks in highsec. Very often the highsec people have little to no chance for any revenge. The standing loss and the money for the gankers is so minimal, they will get the isk back in a short afternoon. The low skilled empire pilot has a harder time to reimburse his hulk and will have no chance to follow the pirate to kill him for this. So fun or not fun, this is quite an unfair situation. IMHO it is much more fun for me to attack players in a hostile alliance who have a chance to defend themselves. Hulkageddon is sort of a pathetic action for me, quite interesting to watch the statistics, yes but i do not participate in grieving empire players (as long as they are not macroing or botting).

Liev Dleg	Posted - 2010.12.17 14:07:00 - [111] It will be fun! Why? Because i'm a Multi Account Player and what skilled my Gangleader? Right! Logistics LVL5. For PVE and PVP Players it is easy to fit a "cheap" ship that can kill a Hulk before Concorede arrives. My Mining Chars will wait for them and Concorde will do the right with them. Remember the Video "Eve online - When Carebears Attack! - Hulk (Exhumer) PvP" And all will be fine. And i see another good chance: The damn Macro Miners will blow away or stay log off from the game. No one can talk to me that all the miners in no corp are working the right way.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.12.17 17:29:00 - [112] Originally by: Aphrodite Skripalle The unfair Point of Hulkageddon for me is, 0.0 high skilled and sometimes bored long time players who can make 100-300 mill a day with ratting in 0.0 space are ganking Hulks in highsec. Very often the highsec people have little to no chance for any revenge. The standing loss and the money for the gankers is so minimal, they will get the isk back in a short afternoon. The low skilled empire pilot has a harder time to reimburse his hulk and will have no chance to follow the pirate to kill him for this. So fun or not fun, this is quite an unfair situation. IMHO it is much more fun for me to attack players in a hostile alliance who have a chance to defend themselves. Hulkageddon is sort of a pathetic action for me, quite interesting to watch the statistics, yes but i do not participate in grieving empire players (as long as they are not macroing or botting). I underlined the part where you make foolish and incorrect assumptions. Indeed nullseccers rarely participate in Hulkageddon, and 300 mil per day is a jokingly small amount of isk.
Mira Robinson Arkons of Myth	Posted - 2010.12.17 18:46:00 - [113] NOHULK, if you word your merc contracts the same way you word your posts, no self-respecting mercenary would accept any contract you offer. Hellicty, more power to ya. ----------------------------- Welcome to EVE. Ship happens.
TheGoodTrader	Posted - 2010.12.18 15:03:00 - [114] Originally by: Tasko Pal Originally by: TheGoodTrader Show us on the doll where the bad GankalystÖ touched you. Yes I am a miner and I support Hulkaggedon. Nothing better than watching your competition drown in their own tears. LOL. There were many red flag touches. PLEX for CP (Carebear P***)! I endorse of this set of microtransactions!
Athar Mu Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2010.12.18 20:30:00 - [115] Erm lol? (didn't read the thread or the OP just the title). Also Concord provides consequences not prevention.
Acac Sunflyier	Posted - 2010.12.19 11:02:00 - [116] I think its fine. It drives up mineral prices. Stimulates the market into production. And completely legal. If you want to try and bow up a miner before CONCORD shows up then go for it. Personally I know I can survive the first blast. Then I get to sit back and laugh at the poirates getting blown up themselves. After which, I loot their corpse.
nissia x	Posted - 2010.12.19 17:34:00 - [117] Originally by: Tasko Pal : Could someone point me to info on the latest for this exotic Eve experience? [/quote the exotic part is long gone tbh whining miners, chestbeating alts, put some hulks in the oven... rinse and repeat every odd few months. Something like a goonaggedon might get me out of my cave for a few times though
Sheila Fay	Posted - 2010.12.19 21:31:00 - [118] Originally by: Greg Huff Edited by: Greg Huff on 12/12/2010 20:56:08 <snip> Have you thought about selling by contract? Or watch who buys your goods then start a discussion with them. You might be able to make some private business arrangements. Ahum.... that only works if you know in advance who you want sell to. On open market contracts you can not limit who buys in any way so that is no help what so ever. Those buying will never talk (why would they... there is nothing in it for them). No, I remain at my point of view that this game is unbalanced in this respect. From what I have seen from CCP they will not balance it ever unless forced by their own balance sheets and top management. I always recommend beginners to not go for mining. Go for ratting and salvaging or something like that. It can make about the same isk per hour in early game and will out perform mining massively later on. If all beginners stop mining.... lets see that happens to EvE, the market and production. Maybe then CCP will do something.
Karn Velora	Posted - 2010.12.20 03:30:00 - [119] Well, I'm a bit surprised about this myself. Kamikaze attacks are an intended part of the game, though, one would hope that it's intended to be rare, costly, and only done in order to cause grave damage to an enemy, or to steal something exceptionally valuable. I can respect a group that sacrifices 1 billion isk worth of hardware, to get their hands on 2 billion isk worth of loot. However, such "big scores" are rare indeed. This used to be rare. When dealing with anything but the big scores, the intended mechanic for pvp is called "war declaration" or "low sec". It gives people a heads up, and it lets them chose to hide, defend themselves, or hire mercenaries of their own to engage the enemy right back. It's the intended mechanic for a simple reason: pvp is supposed to be a two-way street, and mostly voluntary. Suicide ganks, is neither. Hulkageddon is simply an unbalanced mechanic taken too far. It's too easy to suicide gank, and the cost in sec rating, standing and money isn't high enough by a long shot. When suicide gankings are clearly unprofitable even before the attack begins, and aimed at random targets - clearly such action is questionable at best, and griefing at worst. Now this isn't explicitly against the rules as such, but it's definitely a borderline case. The fact that the enire "event" focuses on destroying the most expensive, popular, and defenseless ships around only further raises concerns about the organiser and all participants. I'm sure CCP are aware that pointless gankings are on the rise to say the very least, and they need to address the issue in one way or another - and soon. In the meantime though, I can't help but make the following observation: Certain individuals say "carebear" as if it was a bad thing. Some people just don't like the pvp aspect of the game, and that btw is a HUGE portion of the player base. Only a moron can expect an industrial ship to stand and fight, rather than run. The funny part is who actually spits out the word carebear as an insult: bubblegum pirates. They hide under the same CONCORD umbrella as the carebears. They avoid low and null sec in the same way. They run from wars and fair fights - where the carebears at least only run from unfair fights. Unlike the carebears though, they get their kicks from unfair fights - attacking defenseless targets, by circumventing intended pvp functionality. I really fail to see how these people in any way could be better than carebears... What's to respect about suicide ganking a mining ship for no profit? "Haha I made a carebear cry?" If that's the motivation, then there's no question about it - it's griefing. Grow the ** up. I respect a proper pirate. I remember "Keta Min", flying around low sec in a Machariel a few years ago. Fearless. Making a PROFIT. Risking life and limb, not to mention hundreds of millions of isk in hardware, every day. Me and my alts lost a fair share of ships to that one, and I respect her. Bubblegum pirates though... grinding missions to get isk, and then wasting the isk on suicide ganking random miners in high sec? Griefers and **ers the lot of them. Game would be better off without them, and if CCP ever wake up and smell the burning hulks, hopefully they'll be expelled into low sec quickly enough. CCP already made it illegal to kill off your low sec rating pirates, and if that's not a way to try to limit high sec gankings, I don't know what is. CCP are aware that there's a problem. Don't expect them to sit around and watch quietly forever, while paying customers feel they are being targeted by griefers. Personally, I'd like to see a -2 standing and -2 sec rating hit with every ship destroyed in high sec or something along those lines, as it should be. Empires wouldn't have any interest of keeping these people around. Since we don't have courts and jails - quickly banishing pirates to low sec would be the logical option.
Karn Velora	Posted - 2010.12.20 03:33:00 - [120] Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm flying my T1 hauler into low sec to get some work done. There's less pirates out there.

Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2010.12.20 04:01:00 - [121] Originally by: Karn Velora Some people just don't like the pvp aspect of the game, and that btw is a HUGE portion of the player base. Yeah thing is these people quit after 7 months or so of playing. The churn on people who try to force Eve to play the way they imagine it should is massive. They are food to be exploited by the people who "get it".
Karn Velora	Posted - 2010.12.20 04:16:00 - [122] Edited by: Karn Velora on 20/12/2010 04:20:56 Originally by: Dr BattleSmith Originally by: Karn Velora Some people just don't like the pvp aspect of the game, and that btw is a HUGE portion of the player base. Yeah thing is these people quit after 7 months or so of playing. The churn on people who try to force Eve to play the way they imagine it should is massive. They are food to be exploited by the people who "get it". Very true. The "carebears" either turn to pvp, or they get driven out. That's actually one of the things that concern me. I can't help wondering how large a player base we would have, if this game wasn't so forcibly hostile all the time. I know it's a rare few that think they belong here in the first place, but look at what a fantastic job CCP are doing with what's really a quite limited player base. What would CCP be capable of, if they had twice as many customers? Even carebear customers. Y'know? I never saw a problem with letting the non pvp people do their thing. They will help pay for the next expansion, which btw CCP not only release frequently, but free of charge. I prefer droves and droves of protected high-sec carebears over chinese macro bots any day. I think maybe my mistake is assuming that everyone would prefer that. It is in the games best interest to have a large, happy, paying customer base. I really question the intelligence of people who go out of their way to make players unhappy. Oh well... I'm just ranting now. I should go back to my own business.
Rykuss	Posted - 2010.12.20 08:12:00 - [123] There's actually a part of me that hopes the so called "enlightened" people in this game get exactly what they've asked for. There's nothing more satisfying than to see people get what they asked for and ,at that moment, realise that it wasn't such a great idea. The look on their face, it's priceless I tell you. Of course I wouldn't stick around here for that but it would be funny to read about it on the forum.
Chesty McJubblies Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.12.20 14:42:00 - [124] Originally by: Rodriqu hulkageddon is a conspirecay by Hulk manufacturers to stimulate sales. Suggestion: Remove the "new topic" button from everywhere apart from the list of topics section within a subforum. That'd save those with chronic hand/eye coordination some face.
Pitticus	Posted - 2010.12.20 14:52:00 - [125] I made it through the last 2 hulkageddons untouched, if your not a dumb ass its easy to mine in hostile space. I wont share those secrets because im lusting after the rocks you mine. Moar for me after you get blown up
Killerjock	Posted - 2010.12.20 16:04:00 - [126] Originally by: Pitticus I made it through the last 2 hulkageddons untouched, if your not a dumb ass its easy to mine in hostile space. I wont share those secrets because im lusting after the rocks you mine. Moar for me after you get blown up My hulk mines better than yours. Really tho, Hulkageddon isn't such a big thing. It does lotsa damage but mostly to uninformed players and corps. Last year we had it marked on corp calendar just in case someone forgot. Park the hulk, grab a runner of your choice and go sightseeing. Or mine in a covetor. Or just stay out of high-traffic systems and ice belts. HAGeddoners love high-concentration areas, more killmails for each gankship gone. Suicide ganking IS a rare thing - HAG is an EVENT. It's a week and there's lotsa prizes, that's why they spend so much on little to no loot. The other 50 weeks of the year ganking is not so common.
Ben Johnson Gallente Deep Space Constructions	Posted - 2010.12.20 21:35:00 - [127] Have trolls been getting THIS bad since I last left for a break? My god, this is just sad. Oh, and for the troll who has just GOT TO WASTE A CHARACTER SLOT, Empire is not a fuzzy-wuzzy go-happy newb land where there is no way you can get killed. Go play WoW. ___________________________________________ CEO of Deep Space Constructions --WEBSITE UNDER CONSTRUCTION--
Scarry Peak	Posted - 2010.12.22 11:28:00 - [128] I'm a miner. I just dock up my mining ships for 2 weeks, and scout - and mission - and do all the other things you can do in the game. Really - not rocket science!
KayvaanShrike	Posted - 2010.12.22 20:08:00 - [129] Dear Mr. Carebear, I would like to inform you that there is no safe place in eve nor should there be. There are only "safer" places than others, meaning empire. I feel that Hulkageddon is a great way to stop carebears from there form of "cheating". Mining takes no awareness what so ever, you just click on your miners and walk away and swing back periodically to jet your goods. That to me is cheating as much as griefing. Good luck trying to convince CCP to change the rules. fly safe/mine safe, (insert every non carebears name here)
Ra Naveth	Posted - 2010.12.24 06:58:00 - [130] If the goal is to mirror real life, then at the very least insurance policies should be cancelled if the ship is lost in the commission of a crime. I don't know about you guys, but I know if I were to wreck my car, trying to run a armored truck off the road, my insurance company would drop me like a red headed step child!

NO HULKAGEDDON	Posted - 2010.12.24 22:27:00 - [131] Originally by: Ra Naveth If the goal is to mirror real life, then at the very least insurance policies should be cancelled if the ship is lost in the commission of a crime. I don't know about you guys, but I know if I were to wreck my car, trying to run a armored truck off the road, my insurance company would drop me like a red headed step child! I thanks you sirs for your insight comment here. These have very much real life consequence of anguish and suffering and to such crimes should have legal consequence to players. These killing in game can cause unexpected deaths to gamer who not expecting why such should occur?? i lost many hours mining and isk to psychopath who shooted my hulk and was shocking as such could not function to days jobs necessary. World has many sufferings is crime to make such in escape of game
Umega Solis Mensa	Posted - 2010.12.25 02:43:00 - [132] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Originally by: Ra Naveth If the goal is to mirror real life, then at the very least insurance policies should be cancelled if the ship is lost in the commission of a crime. I don't know about you guys, but I know if I were to wreck my car, trying to run a armored truck off the road, my insurance company would drop me like a red headed step child! I thanks you sirs for your insight comment here. These have very much real life consequence of anguish and suffering and to such crimes should have legal consequence to players. These killing in game can cause unexpected deaths to gamer who not expecting why such should occur?? i lost many hours mining and isk to psychopath who shooted my hulk and was shocking as such could not function to days jobs necessary. World has many sufferings is crime to make such in escape of game I'd say a bigger 'psychopath' is one that can't view EVE has a game, something that is in no way shape or form tangiable.. just a resource for entertainment. Those that treat this Game as some sort of extension of their real life are truly the mentally messed up ones. And I'd still blow up your hulks, insurance return or not.. you'd still lose more than me. Especially you dumb asses that fit faction/DED gear to your highsec exhumers. Them gisti-Bs are tastie treats. ---------------------------------------- Be a part of a solution instead of a lil whiney *****.
Calfis Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.12.25 08:48:00 - [133] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Originally by: Ra Naveth World has many sufferings is crime to make such in escape of game Better to have the psychos killing in a game than in real life, people need an avenue to vent
Criseyde	Posted - 2010.12.25 11:39:00 - [134] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Laugh with clowns but i shall have last... I have made the contacts with several mercanary killers corp and justice is coming to psycopath killers! more names above added to list of griefer scums who will merit punishments. to pick on peacemakers of industry is lowest crime form u will be shamed Hi, NO HULKAGEDDON! I support your point of view, and happen to have several mercanary corp contacts. I would be more than happy to arrange protection over the entire hulkageddon period for your (and any other) vessels for the sum of 10 million ISK per ship. Please send the isk to me as soon as possible, so I have time to arrange things. Thanks!
face donor	Posted - 2011.02.03 16:56:00 - [135] Edited by: face donor on 03/02/2011 17:01:00 Originally by: Yith Za'bolazhi STFU you whining dirty carebear STFU you pvp wannabe. Youre just too chickensht to go down to low sec or 0.0 and fight as it is meant to be in this game. Easy solution. As these mofo's are giving rewards to best lame ass chickensht pvp wannabes - all miners should unite and give rewards for killing their top 10 killers. Gather all miner corps, put together a reward and kill them/pod them 10 times over. And to be clear, I'm not a miner nor have I any miner characters, but this kinda lame arse sh*t is just unbelievable. - Killing macros is ok, but first you need to determine its a macro. - Killing hard working miners is a crime - where do you think your ships come from....Idiots!
Kerak Chevaliers	Posted - 2011.02.03 17:09:00 - [136] Edited by: Kerak Chevaliers on 03/02/2011 17:13:49 Edited by: Kerak Chevaliers on 03/02/2011 17:11:26 Edited by: Kerak Chevaliers on 03/02/2011 17:10:19 'As it was meant to be played' Right! You don't have a monopoly on that wisdom and it just looks like petulant special pleading on your part. Speaking as someone with a Hulk and a Mackinaw (and a couple of Industrials besides), this event is ignored at its peril. And hopefully that means that the bots are those hit hardest by it. It's hard not to believe you're a miner ... and a dopey one at that. Our corp has a zero-engagement policy with can-flippers and the like. We know when we can't win and it's no skin off our noses. Just a game, innit? And maybe the more ... emotionally 'affected' individuals might rage-quit after Hulkageddon. Would do their mental stability (and my blood pressure) a world of good. Edit: Furthermore ... no, your ships don't come from miners. Miners escrow their ore, sure, but industrialists are the bulk buyers (no one in their right mind mines all of the materials for their production.) So eh ... it's actually the venture capitalists that keep this show on the road. And I'm happy just being a tiny cog in the greater machine.
face donor	Posted - 2011.02.03 17:16:00 - [137] Originally by: Kerak Chevaliers Edited by: Kerak Chevaliers on 03/02/2011 17:11:26 Edited by: Kerak Chevaliers on 03/02/2011 17:10:19 'As it was meant to be played' Right! You don't have a monopoly on that wisdom and it just looks like petulant special pleading on your part. youre drunk or something? I said I'm not a miner. I just respect the people who work hard and have no interest in pvp, therefore they chose the miner profession. As per rest of your reply....yeah, you have to be drunk. cheers
Kerak Chevaliers	Posted - 2011.02.03 17:20:00 - [138] I haven't been drunk in over a week But if its one thing you're not doing, it's the job of fooling anyone. If you're not a high-sec miner, and a particularly precious one at that, I'll eat my hat.
face donor	Posted - 2011.02.03 17:25:00 - [139] then get ready to eat. I have only 1 account and zero industrial skills. Quit the game for 2 years and just came back, read forums and couldn't believe what I saw.
Kerak Chevaliers	Posted - 2011.02.03 17:30:00 - [140] Well then, if that's true (really? really?) you need to seriously educate yourself about how the in-game economy works - because as a resource extractor myself I don't want your 'respect' for my alleged hard work. You know you need to take a little time-out when someone with an actual Hulk (i.e. me) is telling someone who supposedly has no mining assets (i.e. you) that they should STFU. I just can't fathom your buy-in to this.

face donor	Posted - 2011.02.03 17:53:00 - [141] STFU was directed to the 3rd person who posted in this thread (Yith Za'bolazhi) and not you - why did you think it was about you? Doesn't really matter what you think of my opinion, just that the event like "hulkageddon" is not fair toward legit players that don't want pvp - hence the high sec and concord protection. If it is supposed to be unsafe for all and all the time, then why bother with high sec at all. Remove the concord and you get much less lag. Some people come here to spend some of their free time out of the real life and do not want to spamm the scanner (with the lately added delay, its especially nice), looking local all the time (as if you could determine the gankers from the local in a first place). Gankers say "fit a tank" - hello, why there are cargo expander's and mining laser upgrades in this game then? Sure, Hulk could have 20k+ HP tank (just checked out of curiosity), but you wouldn't be using any of the advantages from specialized modules. Just like fitting a target painter or web on a caldari ship, would cripple the tank. Anyway, the reason for posting in a first place, was not to plead to anyone. I am saying that kinda event is not justified. How can a group of players decide that their view is right and all the rest should suffer because of it. All of us pay for playing the game, so live and let live. If you want to fight, go low sec or join 0.0 corp. Why harass the players that don't want to fight. And I say again - you can kill as many macros as you can. Since that kinda thing is also unjustified. Just give a legit players a chance.
face donor	Posted - 2011.02.03 18:22:00 - [142] Edited by: face donor on 03/02/2011 18:23:43 In case anyone, is interested, this is how you get a 22k+ HP tank on a Hulk (24k+ with leadership bonuses): [Hulk, Tank + 1 upgrade] Internal Force Field Array I Mining Laser Upgrade II Supplemental Thermal Barrier Emitter Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix Invulnerability Field II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Hammerhead II x5
face donor	Posted - 2011.02.03 18:30:00 - [143] And a 20k HP tank on Mack: [Mackinaw, Tank] Power Diagnostic System II Internal Force Field Array I Azeotropic EM Ward Salubrity Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I Supplemental Thermal Barrier Emitter Invulnerability Field II Ice Harvester II Ice Harvester II Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5
Shakon	Posted - 2011.02.03 19:14:00 - [144] Idiots. It was never to kill macros. Or they would be doing it out in 0.0 with thousands of ratting bots etc. Its for people to bio mass toons so they dont have to face the fact they suck at PvP vrs targets that shoot back or are not out numbered 10 to 1. WTF just be honest about it. Bunch of damn crybabys trying to justify being wussies in a friking game. which is sort of funny.
Spiral Architect Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.02.03 19:16:00 - [145] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON I see some finally voices of reasons but still many terrorist. There is 2 solution to this which can be fair to all side and provide positive environment both 1) make high sec unable to shooted guns at other players or to take other players salvage and items. shooted up is only in lowsec and the 0.0 bad places 2) install pve only server for peace makers so to enjoy games without grief and health problems. ships and sales to market may go to both servers but only players who want grief can go to pvp server. this can make EVE best games for all and keep grief criminals where belong I lol'd This is the best thread on the boards!!
Ingvar Angst	Posted - 2011.02.03 20:37:00 - [146] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Laugh with clowns but i shall have last... I have made the contacts with several mercanary killers corp and justice is coming to psycopath killers! more names above added to list of griefer scums who will merit punishments. to pick on peacemakers of industry is lowest crime form u will be shamed Don't be surprised when a "mercenary" blows your hulk up and cashes in on the reward.
Onibrak Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.03 20:51:00 - [147] As much as it strains my suspension of disbelief, I'm going to trust that this isn't a troll thread and enjoy the crying from someone who thinks Empire is supposed to be "safe". Even those of us who can't fly a decent combat ship are getting in on the action. Hulk-spotting is my new favorite pass time. Four easy steps, make a public fleet, advertise in local, let people warp to you for the hulk, move on to the next belt/system and repeat. Five hulks down in the last week without a single loss for aggressive actions. Hulkageddon rules.
garus banta	Posted - 2011.02.03 21:28:00 - [148] Edited by: garus banta on 03/02/2011 21:28:21 If you are serious about hulkageddon, you setup a small POS in an ICE system, bring plenty of ships and resupplies. Once setup there is no need to worry about -10 and you can dock freely without concord intervention. You are still in danger of being hunted by other players but hey, how many mackinaws are fitted to take on a destroyer! The fact we have macro miners are people mining all the time in highsec tells me we are NOT doing our job. Any miner should TERRIFIED to go outside and mine anything in highsec! There is much to do people, don't let -10 discourage us from our true potential!!! Happy ganking!
raney ilara	Posted - 2011.02.03 21:44:00 - [149] Originally by: Helican Vamberfeld Carebear tears = best tears You mean the safest tears... They don't really fight back well and you only have to race against concord response.
face donor	Posted - 2011.02.03 21:47:00 - [150] Edited by: face donor on 03/02/2011 21:49:17 In Eve, it seems to be appropriate to name certain groups of people, judging by their game style. Such names being: - carebear (very bad, it means youre the lowest form of life) - scammer (inventive bunch of peeps) - ninja salvager (also inventive, but more cool, since they're flying ships) and so on, so on..... In the light of people favoring the high sec hulk killing, I would name them as ôAmbitious-half-opposed-lethal-eve-solesö. I think its a suitable name and no more offensive than the others. While being a bit hypocritical, they're actually inventive peeps. Why hypocritical? Well, they claim that the high sec is NOT supposed to be safe and you should expect to be killed at any time. Yet they enjoy the comfort of concord protection while roaming around high sec systems in their T1 DPS fitted vessels and no tank - lets be honest, you wouldn't/couldn't do that in low sec or 0.0, but the ôsafe placeö is great when it suits their needs. When the enemy (that annoying hulk) gets in their way and gets blown up by an ôAmbitious-half-opposed-lethal-eve-soleö and his 7 friends - the insurance and Hulk fittings give back their loss. In fact, they're probably even making money out of it. Great deal, isn't it!? And god forbid if the foolish miner has more than one vessel and sends his drones to ôguardö his most valuable ship while it tries to get into warp. His other ships just get blown up by the concord û how great is that! You can kill the miner while he is watching it, even if he has 20x T2 Hammers orbiting the ship û he canÆt do sh*t!. Sweet game mechanics, but you GO AHOLES!

Bel Amar Amarr Sudden Buggery Anarchy Unlimited	Posted - 2011.02.03 21:50:00 - [151] Originally by: garus banta Edited by: garus banta on 03/02/2011 21:28:21 If you are serious about hulkageddon, you setup a small POS in an ICE system, bring plenty of ships and resupplies. Once setup there is no need to worry about -10 and you can dock freely without concord intervention. You perhaps mean dock freely without faction police intervention. Evading concord isn't such an easy (or smart) thing to do.
Greg Huff	Posted - 2011.02.03 21:57:00 - [152] If you insist on mining during Hulkageddon plan ahead and dock a salvage vessel in the same system. When you get popped quickly grab your salvager and grab some of the scraps. At least you get something out of it that way.
face donor	Posted - 2011.02.03 22:04:00 - [153] Edited by: face donor on 03/02/2011 22:06:15 Edited by: face donor on 03/02/2011 22:04:38 lol, if you insist on killing defenseless mining vessels in "safe" high sec system, then ccp should make it so that the whole miner corp can kill AND pod you for a whole week. While you can't attack back - if you do, you'll get concorded. Now that would bring excitement to everyone and miners would call you the whining carebear.
Borun Tal Minmatar Space Pods Inc	Posted - 2011.02.03 22:33:00 - [154] Edited by: Borun Tal on 03/02/2011 22:33:50 Helicity must be bored... But then, what I've read in this thread is extremely entertaining!!
Borun Tal Minmatar Space Pods Inc	Posted - 2011.02.03 22:36:00 - [155] Originally by: Greg Huff If you insist on mining during Hulkageddon plan ahead and dock a salvage vessel in the same system. When you get popped quickly grab your salvager and grab some of the scraps. At least you get something out of it that way. Remember that scene in the movie Evolution where one bug got smashed and a crapload of others swarmed to consume the remains of their smurshed buddy? That's one of my alts in a Thrasher after every kill... :)
Zesoft	Posted - 2011.02.04 03:05:00 - [156] Originally by: Yith Za'bolazhi STFU you whining dirty carebear Empire is not safe and never will be in fuzzy wuzzy carebear land... Do you walk down your high street thinking you are safe from pick pockets ? do you go out in the week end and expect some drunken **** not to start a fight ???? Do you honestly expect the police to protect you ??? rofl Is insurance firm your best friend ? or did gorden brown do you a favour... i don't think so !!! No where is safe... hulkageddon is a player run event and its good for the econmey Jebus man, find a new place to live. :<
D'Katoza	Posted - 2011.02.04 04:14:00 - [157] I don't know about anyone else, but my profits from mining went up 10% or more after the last hulkageddon... Kill all the macro miners and let the real miners make the ISK for once. I support HULKAGEDDON
Mechanoid Kryten N0VA 5	Posted - 2011.02.04 04:54:00 - [158] Just in case CCP doesn't ban Hulkageddon, I'm organizing a resistance movement http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/2011/01/this-page-is-under-construction.html There are more of us than there are of them. And CONCORD is on our side. We can make them hurt in their wallets (clones cost ISK) and their pride. I have a thread on this in the Events and Gatherings section.
Zaboth Garadath Amarr Ore Extraction Corporation	Posted - 2011.02.04 08:25:00 - [159] Originally by: Mechanoid Kryten Just in case CCP doesn't ban Hulkageddon, I'm organizing a resistance movement http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/2011/01/this-page-is-under-construction.html There are more of us than there are of them. And CONCORD is on our side. We can make them hurt in their wallets (clones cost ISK) and their pride. I have a thread on this in the Events and Gatherings section. Them 3 words show you have no clue about Highsec aggression mechanics. _____________________________________________ 'If you really want to make someone hate you, explain to them, logically and politely, why they are wrong' - J. Baylock
Turiko	Posted - 2011.02.04 09:19:00 - [160] Originally by: Zaboth Garadath Them 3 words show you have no clue about Highsec aggression mechanics. Elaborate please? Sacrificing a cheap ship to protect expensive ships seems a good idea. Podding the pirates is even better, as it turns the hurt around and aims it back at them. Just because concord will retliate doesn't mean it's impossible - i dare you to attack a pod, see how many attacks it lasts. Hint: concord won't be able to save the pod.

Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2011.02.04 09:22:00 - [161] Looks like thing just became more fun. ------------------------------------------------ Quafe is people!
Kerak Chevaliers Amarr The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.04 13:25:00 - [162] Originally by: Mechanoid Kryten Just in case CCP doesn't ban Hulkageddon, I'm organizing a resistance movement http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/2011/01/this-page-is-under-construction.html There are more of us than there are of them. And CONCORD is on our side. We can make them hurt in their wallets (clones cost ISK) and their pride. I have a thread on this in the Events and Gatherings section. Seriously, "just in case"? Bwah! CCP will never, ever, ever even consider for a minute banning a player-organised event that operates well inside the existing game mechanics and doesn't involve any exploits. When are people going to get a grip about this? And good luck podding people in High-Sec. You'll find your newly aggressive care-bears whining when they discover their security status dropping like a stone ... No Moar Mining in High Sec!? Oh Noes!
Nikki ThePink	Posted - 2011.02.04 16:31:00 - [163] Originally by: Mechanoid Kryten Just in case CCP doesn't ban Hulkageddon, I'm organizing a resistance movement http://griefer-geddon.blogspot.com/2011/01/this-page-is-under-construction.html There are more of us than there are of them. And CONCORD is on our side. We can make them hurt in their wallets (clones cost ISK) and their pride. I have a thread on this in the Events and Gatherings section. Hilarious, just plain funny lmfao 1. hulkagedon people have a thign called jump clones, oh know there priceless lets pop them lol get real 2. hulkagedon people fight knowing they may die, you really think you can organise a surprise attack in hisec lmao try it, it will be fun to see CCP fighting both sides lol 3. you will never get hulkagedon banned, it is not an exploit and it is not greifing. you fly a ship in space, any space you can be targetted and killed. If Concord dont save your ass shame on you for being otu there when hulkageddon fleets are in your system just had to lmao at this
Mechanoid Kryten N0VA 5	Posted - 2011.02.04 18:38:00 - [164] #1 I am not lobying to have hulkageddon banned. If I thought there was a chance it would be I would not be endangering that chance with my contest. 'Just in case' words were chosen with respect to the originator of this thread. #2 he who claims it is impossible should not interrupt the one doing. I already included examples of sucessful pod catching in the thread I have on this topic in events and gatherings. Surprize is not a necessary feature of this endevor, however since catching flashy red pods is "impossible" I suspect it may still be a feature.
Kane Veras Caldari Veras Corporation	Posted - 2011.02.05 11:13:00 - [165] "When the Enemy strikes at your core you can not expect them to be struck by lightning because you think of it as being unfair. Instead you must strike back and destroy them." - Kane Veras For short, go pirate hunting for a while.
Skorpynekomimi Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.05 17:59:00 - [166] To be honest, I don't like the idea of hulkageddon. Going into presumed safe areas and griefing is kinda low. However, I DO like the rules that make it possible. It shouldn't be banned, because it's a rights thing. HOWEVER. This doesn't stop a counter-hulkageddon being organised. Mass defense of miners, and taking out of high-sec gankers. My concession to the whole thing is to organise some defense and go mining in low-sec instead.
Horizonist Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet Yulai Federation	Posted - 2011.02.05 18:02:00 - [167] Originally by: Skorpynekomimi To be honest, I don't like the idea of hulkageddon. Going into presumed safe areas and griefing is kinda low. However, I DO like the rules that make it possible. It shouldn't be banned, because it's a rights thing. HOWEVER. This doesn't stop a counter-hulkageddon being organised. Mass defense of miners, and taking out of high-sec gankers. My concession to the whole thing is to organise some defense and go mining in low-sec instead. Just refrain from mining for a week or so, let them fly around in frustration finding no targets. In preparation, stack up on minerals to deal with the shortage. You win, they lose.
Kerak Chevaliers Amarr The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.06 14:23:00 - [168] I don't think anyone is doubting the counter-Hulkageddon's capability to pod people - it's just that there's obvious ramifications to doing that; which will mean that either: 1. Your miners are willing to take the sec status hit and get locked out of high-sec. 2. Your miners are inaugurating alts for the duration of the event and training them to be capable of doing PvP? Forgive me for finding both scenarios unlikely.
Kyoung	Posted - 2011.02.06 16:19:00 - [169] So when is this to start? I heard a while back it starts 1 Feb but have not heard if it really started.
AtheistOfFail Caldari	Posted - 2011.02.06 20:21:00 - [170] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Originally by: Mira Robinson As a dedicated miner, am I the happiest about Hulkageddon? No. CCP has put a system in place that punishes offenders. Is it perfect? No. Insurance payouts from getting CONCORDED needs to GO. But seriously, dock the Hulk for 2 weeks and let them have their fun. People like you complain every year. And guess what. *That's what they want you to do.* ok so no offer solutions to solve this terrorism but u must support it. adding mira robinson as name on terror list Jalaha Death To The Hulks! Add me to the list please. PS: AoF Lottery Services is proud to support and sponsor this year's Hulkaggedon. We have added 40 Damage Control II modules to the mix (one for every of the first 40 participants in the event) so they may "live long and prosper" <- And by live long we mean longer than 5 seconds and prosper that they get us some sweet tears.

Fredy Frenly	Posted - 2011.02.06 21:26:00 - [171] so what som like to gang hulks? some dont like it? point is if you mine, dokk opp do missons, go gett a beer somwher, lett those macro gettit, If your clever bild those ships and sell them to thos ho are doing it.
Xina Tutor Amarr Hot Chicks	Posted - 2011.02.06 22:36:00 - [172] Dump insurance. This is a pvp game and it's supposed to be risky. Insurance takes away the risk.
Novee InFeldspar	Posted - 2011.02.07 03:09:00 - [173] I think insurance should not be paid out on Concord-enforced kills. ie if a Hulkageddon pilot aggresses a Hulk in order to destroy it, and in turn is destroyed by Concord, then no insurance is payable. The insurance system in Eve is completely untenable, in that you may insure a ship full well knowing it will be blown up, even if its your fault you'll still get paid a sizable chunk off a T1 ships price. . Any reasonable insurance company wouldn't touch you again with a ten-foot pole, or at the very least, increase the cost of premiums. IMO, Hulkageddon is a great player-run event, no problem there, but Hulkageddon pilots should field their hulk-busting ships at their own cost, not exploiting the already-known-to-be-ridiculous insurance mechanics (even if those ridiculous mechanics are technically within the current game rules). TL:DR Hulkageddon = good for destroying macro miners and pushing mineral prices up. Hulkageddon pilots destroyed by Concord = no insurance payout
raney ilara	Posted - 2011.02.07 04:34:00 - [174] Originally by: Novee InFeldspar Hulkageddon = good for destroying macro miners and pushing mineral prices up. You mean regular miners blown up using a small number of actual macro miners as a flimsy provocation. yep. Quote: Hulkageddon pilots destroyed by Concord = no insurance payout I agree, but the idea has been floated before and largely ignored.
Shakon	Posted - 2011.02.07 06:44:00 - [175] Not to mention most bio mass their toons aftr it which is supposed to be against the Rules. But hey its for killing things that cant fight back with no consqences just like CCP and The idiot that wont undock that started it.
Tolmek	Posted - 2011.02.07 07:18:00 - [176] THERE IS NO SECURITY ANYWHERE IN EVE!!! Get over it. The only way to stop the gankers is to fly an Orca with a remote shield booster or a cloak. Park a good gank ship of your own or a cloaky in the ship maintenance bay of the Orca. Either way that strategy will give you some options and or more time for Concord to come to your rescue. On another note, fit your Hulk with a small Gistii shield booster and get your drone skills way up. With the Orca fitted with a remote shield booster, a small Gistii on your Hulk and 10 drones you should be able to fend of just about any single ganker. QUIT complaining and start playing. Use your head.
Savoian	Posted - 2011.02.07 10:44:00 - [177] Fit a BS as sniper. Fly to a mining field. Park it some 70km away from the mining hulks. When the hulkageddoners come, help CONCORD, 1 shot to each one of them. Hulks will still die, but at the end your killboard will look a lot better :-) And I bet those hulkageddoners will be pretty upset to know that they just feed the killboards of carebears who ninja kills from Concord. Sav
Nicky's Tomb	Posted - 2011.02.07 12:19:00 - [178] No insurance pay outs for ships lost to Concord response fleets. That would end hulkageddon stone cold. ... and maybe suicide ganking too.
catinboots Minmatar Vintage collective	Posted - 2011.02.07 12:23:00 - [179] If you think hulkageddon thingy is griefing you are doing it wrong There are plenty of things you as a highsecminer can do to prevent falling victim My mining character survived 2 hulkageddons without even seeing one of these low life master pvpers, nor did it stopped me mining There are plenty of other threads that tells you what to do during hulkythingy, so i am not going to repeat all of it just a few hints NEVER mine afk or semi AFK, learn how to scan and look for grav sites and mine them, lots of these gankers do not fit any modules to scan you out or are too lazy to scan for you There are many lvl 1 and 2 mission sites that have more asteroids than the average belt look for them I will probably make a bigger profit mining this month than any other month Also last point , most victims are using macros that is why i support hulkageddon, PS NO WHERE IN NEW EDEN ARE YOU SAFE REMEMBER THAT IT SHOULD BE THE FIRST LESSON INTHE TUTORIALS _____________ There be dragons
face donor	Posted - 2011.02.07 15:38:00 - [180] Originally by: Savoian When the hulkageddoners come, help CONCORD, 1 shot to each one of them. Hulks will still die, but at the end your killboard will look a lot better :-) And I bet those hulkageddoners will be pretty upset to know that they just feed the killboards of carebears who ninja kills from Concord. That's the sad part, only the ship that's getting attacked, can attack back. You can't sit on an alt account and shoot pvp wannabes who are killing Hulks - If you do, you'll get concorded yourself.

face donor	Posted - 2011.02.07 15:43:00 - [181] Originally by: Tolmek THERE IS NO SECURITY ANYWHERE IN EVE!!! Get over it. Get a life! yes there is security, hence systems 1 - 0.5 The only way to stop the gankers is to fly an Orca with a remote shield booster or a cloak. Park a good gank ship of your own or a cloaky in the ship maintenance bay of the Orca. Either way that strategy will give you some options and or more time for Concord to come to your rescue. I would like to see you changing Hulk to a pvp ship, while 6 bs are shooting it. Good luck with that. You'll be lucky if you can blink, before it goes boom. On another note, fit your Hulk with a small Gistii shield booster and get your drone skills way up. With the Orca fitted with a remote shield booster, a small Gistii on your Hulk and 10 drones you should be able to fend of just about any single ganker. QUIT complaining and start playing. Use your head. For tanking a singel tnaker 1 x damage control is enough. Orca is not going to save your Hulk, as it is much more desired target itself.
Zircalla	Posted - 2011.02.07 18:17:00 - [182] This is all giggle-worthy. While I could care less about H-A either way, it is kind of fun to see all the rage. Quote: Get a life! yes there is security, hence systems 1 - 0.5 There are just puppets like you who are exploiting it while not realizing your'e just helping organizers to make huge profit. Exploit? I don't think so, as long as Concord kills all the SS gankers. Helping the organizers make a huge profit? You mean like the huge profit that CCP is making off all of us? If you sell ore, you are helping someone make isk off of minerals, if you sell minerals you are helping someone make isk off of modules, etc. etc. Big deal. The only ones I feel a little sorry for are any noob miners, but technically they should not be in a hulk. You can be pretty new in a Retriever, though, and still have no clue on game mechanics or about H-A.
Savoian	Posted - 2011.02.07 21:45:00 - [183] Originally by: face donor Originally by: Savoian When the hulkageddoners come, help CONCORD, 1 shot to each one of them. Hulks will still die, but at the end your killboard will look a lot better :-) And I bet those hulkageddoners will be pretty upset to know that they just feed the killboards of carebears who ninja kills from Concord. That's the sad part, only the ship that's getting attacked, can attack back. You can't sit on an alt account and shoot pvp wannabes who are killing Hulks - If you do, you'll get concorded yourself. Mate we are not speaking of can flipping here, it is an attack vs a ship in hi sec. The attacker gets a nice GCC, it is tagged as pirate, it goes red with a nice white skull on it, and everybody can attack him. Sav
Ingvar Angst	Posted - 2011.02.08 13:46:00 - [184] Originally by: Nicky's Tomb No insurance pay outs for ships lost to Concord response fleets. That would end hulkageddon stone cold. ... and maybe suicide ganking too. You realize that most people that are actively involved in Hulkageddon are using cheap, disposable ships and already have enough ISK that the lack of insurance won't really matter to them? They not only expect to lose money; they do so willingly so they can bathe in your warm, salty tears.
Eastman Color	Posted - 2011.02.08 14:06:00 - [185] Originally by: NO HULKAGEDDON Hulkageddon announce all over forums as way to illegally destroy miners work and cause targetted griefing to players. Is this not against rules and should not be?? This is in safe space empire and they must hack the police to not respond in time like they should because this is outrageous. Many of the industry spend many hours to build and help market community and then all is ruined by psychopaths who should be making war in 0.0 not creating criminal act in empire safe space. This is to cause real life problems such like stress, anxieties, and maybe even heart attack death from surprise shocks when miner blows up which you have nothing to do about. Think about how evil actions can hurted all of us much worse than just mining ships blowed up. This is community game and hulkageddon shooters hurt real lives too. I ask for all peace miners to petition ccp and csm peoples to make terrorisms illegal and fix empire to be safe like supposed to be. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Oh wait, you're serious
face donor	Posted - 2011.02.08 16:39:00 - [186] Originally by: Eastman Color HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Quote: good boy! now try with other letters and you'll have alphabet learned in no time.
sparson	Posted - 2011.02.08 20:32:00 - [187] Hey, no-hulk, I'm no fan of PvPers who think ganking a defenseless ship makes them a man, but it's part of the game. If you don't like it go mine on sisi, you can easily find yourself a nice unoccupied system and you can click on roid pictures all day if you want, nobody will mess with you.
Wellan McHuntley	Posted - 2011.02.09 06:52:00 - [188] Hulkaguedon is organised by the Goonswarm Federation wich have the BPO for the hulk. They have a year to make a lot of them...
catinboots Minmatar Vintage collective	Posted - 2011.02.09 08:14:00 - [189] Some of you whinners are a embarrassment to all carebears, really THERE IS NO PLACE SAFE NOR WILL THERE EVER BE ONE( should be the first lesson in the tutorials) I wouldn't want a game without risk , if you really want to go and play agame where you are 100% safe go and play STO or WOW,i hear they even give you cookies there) Serious ,i think i said this before , but unless you are a complete idiot you will be relative safe during the hulkathingy thing end of this month So stop complaining and grow some balls or brains _____________ There be dragons
Eastman Color	Posted - 2011.02.09 09:34:00 - [190] Originally by: Wellan McHuntley Hulkaguedon is organised by the Goonswarm Federation wich have the BPO for the hulk. They have a year to make a lot of them... confirming that the goons have THE hulk bpo

RT Firefly	Posted - 2011.02.11 00:27:00 - [191] Edited by: RT Firefly on 11/02/2011 00:27:45 I agree that an attack in empire is done at the attackers own risk. The reasoning makes no difference. When I'm mining I still have to look out for rats and flippers (Still haven't seen an Incursion yet) this is just part of the game. My concern is that the original poster wrote "This is in safe space empire and they must hack the police to not respond in time like they should because this is outrageous." Is there a hack to delay Concord? If so then this is cheating and CCP must fix it. I believe the gankers and griefers would complain if there was a hack to make mining ships invulnerable. If the ganked feel that a hack was used in the loss of there ship petition for a reimbursement. If you're still not satisfied then band together quit the game in mass and see if the revenue drop gets CCP's attention. This is just my opinion I could be wrong. Happy Hulkageddon!
Tuggboat Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.11 03:10:00 - [192] Eve is NOT a PVP game. take a timer and time the real amount of time your engaged or trying to engage another player divide that by how much time your online interacting with the market, the fitting screen, the forums and of course eft. (the real eve game). If you can do the math,... ha.. ha.. ha... :) you'll find out who your really playing with most of the time. Now put some catalysts in the oven with those minerals you bought and you big ol' pirates go to beddy bye and get a good nights sleep. Lots of swashbuckling you can do tomorrow.
raney ilara	Posted - 2011.02.11 05:44:00 - [193] Quote: Eve is NOT a PVP game. huh? You'll have to explain that theory better. The way I see eve is everything is pvp.. there is not a bit of it, including the forums, that isn't used in pvp.
Tuggboat Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.11 09:37:00 - [194] Do the math. Who/what are you interacting with and in that interaction, are you working with or against (versus)? your personal goal may be to play pvp but thats not what your actually doing. your working WITH the hulk bpo owners, with the moon goo holders, with the marketers, with the manufacturers, with your gang mates, with rats, etc etc etc. Finaly you have done all this prep work with the environment, maybe a months worth. and you jump into a system your databases or forums or chat channels suggest will be a good target. you open up your scanner and NOW your player versus player. In a few minutes that part is over. COncord, the environment now comes after you and you are back interacting with the environment again. Do the math. if your spending 95 or 99% of your time working with the environment your not really playing against players. even if you farm a burst of hulks it only because of the prep time you did before. Anyone who thinks otherwise is like the manufacturer who thinks his mins are free cause he mines them himself. In this game its the manufactures killing pvpers, making them commit suicide. Manufactures and miners play the forums and your imaginations. This is how we kill pirates. People working with people. Its a social game of people working with others. Unity is stronger than chaos, PVP is a fallacy.
H'pol	Posted - 2011.02.11 10:41:00 - [195] Edited by: H''pol on 11/02/2011 10:43:09 Originally by: Tuggboat Do the math. Who/what are you interacting with and in that interaction, are you working with or against (versus)? your personal goal may be to play pvp but thats not what your actually doing. your working WITH the hulk bpo owners, with the moon goo holders, with the marketers, with the manufacturers, with your gang mates, with rats, etc etc etc. Finaly you have done all this prep work with the environment, maybe a months worth. and you jump into a system your databases or forums or chat channels suggest will be a good target. you open up your scanner and NOW your player versus player. In a few minutes that part is over. COncord, the environment now comes after you and you are back interacting with the environment again. Do the math. if your spending 95 or 99% of your time working with the environment your not really playing against players. even if you farm a burst of hulks it only because of the prep time you did before. Anyone who thinks otherwise is like the manufacturer who thinks his mins are free cause he mines them himself. In this game its the manufactures killing pvpers, making them commit suicide. Manufactures and miners play the forums and your imaginations. This is how we kill pirates. People working with people. Its a social game of people working with others. Unity is stronger than chaos, PVP is a fallacy. IMO pvp means I CAN kill others, not that I have to. Fighters are fighting others, traders are fighting others on markets, manufacturers are fighting others in a way who is faster or more efficency.
Zircalla	Posted - 2011.02.11 14:25:00 - [196] Edited by: Zircalla on 11/02/2011 14:26:33 Edited by: Zircalla on 11/02/2011 14:25:48 Bah! Working with, working against, blah, blah, blah... I am thinking we have finally found a use for some black ops ships - I think we will try cloaking one near a fully tanked hulk and see if someone tries to gank it. With Sebos and a command ship in system, we can lock on in well under 2 seconds and turn on 4 shield transporters, a remote armor repper, and a remote hull repper. Should massively increase the tank of the hulk :). Anyway, can't think of much else to do with a Black Ops bs anyway. HA has given the Black Ops ships meaning!
Taedrin Gallente The Green Cross Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.02.11 14:55:00 - [197] Good god people, put the hulk away and mine in a covetor if you must. It's not that big of a deal! Originally by: Zircalla Edited by: Zircalla on 11/02/2011 14:26:33 Edited by: Zircalla on 11/02/2011 14:25:48 Bah! Working with, working against, blah, blah, blah... I am thinking we have finally found a use for some black ops ships - I think we will try cloaking one near a fully tanked hulk and see if someone tries to gank it. With Sebos and a command ship in system, we can lock on in well under 2 seconds and turn on 4 shield transporters, a remote armor repper, and a remote hull repper. Should massively increase the tank of the hulk :). Anyway, can't think of much else to do with a Black Ops bs anyway. HA has given the Black Ops ships meaning! Won't work when they can instapop the hulk before the repper even has a chance to lock the hulk. ---------- Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident" Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
Kerak Chevaliers Amarr The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.11 15:09:00 - [198] Edited by: Kerak Chevaliers on 11/02/2011 15:14:17 Originally by: Tuggboat Do the math. Who/what are you interacting with and in that interaction, are you working with or against (versus)? your personal goal may be to play pvp but thats not what your actually doing. your working WITH the hulk bpo owners, with the moon goo holders, with the marketers, with the manufacturers, with your gang mates, with rats, etc etc etc. Finaly you have done all this prep work with the environment, maybe a months worth. and you jump into a system your databases or forums or chat channels suggest will be a good target. you open up your scanner and NOW your player versus player. In a few minutes that part is over. COncord, the environment now comes after you and you are back interacting with the environment again. Do the math. if your spending 95 or 99% of your time working with the environment your not really playing against players. even if you farm a burst of hulks it only because of the prep time you did before. Anyone who thinks otherwise is like the manufacturer who thinks his mins are free cause he mines them himself. In this game its the manufactures killing pvpers, making them commit suicide. Manufactures and miners play the forums and your imaginations. This is how we kill pirates. People working with people. Its a social game of people working with others. Unity is stronger than chaos, PVP is a fallacy. Stop drinking the kool-aid. The fact is that, brief though PvP might be, it's what generates the most important systemic effects (either the threat of force, or the use thereof.) That, indeed, is why people are spending 95% of the time, as you have it, interacting with the environment (and this doesn't involve other players, such as the competition between traders, manufacturers and raw mineral producers?)in preparation for (or catering for players that do)the remaining 5%. And I think you're way off on that ratio anyway; you're forgetting that PvP can be very cheap. To co-opt something from IR - hard power is understood in a soft power context (war being an anomaly in generally peaceful relations between states.) It hardly makes the hard power any less decisive though.
Zircalla	Posted - 2011.02.11 15:46:00 - [199] Quote: Won't work when they can instapop the hulk before the repper even has a chance to lock the hulk. Well, this is what we are going to find out :P. With the proper command ships in system/fleet (Damnation with AW mindlink and Vulcan with SW Mindlink), we get a pretty nice tank on a shield rigged/hardened hulk (DCU and Internal structure thingy down low). Thinking it may not insta-pop, but maybe it will. Past experience (some first hand ) makes me think that most gankers will not have insta-pop damage for this setup. Anyway, although we would be mining, that isn't the point at all...
gDoctor Stangelove	Posted - 2011.02.12 13:54:00 - [200] Originally by: Wellan McHuntley Hulkaguedon is organised by the Goonswarm Federation wich have the BPO for the hulk. They have a year to make a lot of them... This is wrong. The Prophet Karttoon, may his name forever live in shame, asked Goonswarm to help kill the infidels. After a while Karttoon went out and kicked all the directors from Goons and stole most of their stuff and turned off all the POS's so goons lost the region of DELVE. HULK BPO's have nothing to do with this.

gDoctor Stangelove	Posted - 2011.02.12 13:57:00 - [201] Originally by: Taedrin Good god people, put the hulk away and mine in a covetor if you must. It's not that big of a deal! Originally by: Zircalla Edited by: Zircalla on 11/02/2011 14:26:33 Edited by: Zircalla on 11/02/2011 14:25:48 Bah! Working with, working against, blah, blah, blah... I am thinking we have finally found a use for some black ops ships - I think we will try cloaking one near a fully tanked hulk and see if someone tries to gank it. With Sebos and a command ship in system, we can lock on in well under 2 seconds and turn on 4 shield transporters, a remote armor repper, and a remote hull repper. Should massively increase the tank of the hulk :). Anyway, can't think of much else to do with a Black Ops bs anyway. HA has given the Black Ops ships meaning! Won't work when they can instapop the hulk before the repper even has a chance to lock the hulk. A tanked hulk is impossible to kill unless you have about 2000 DPS on it in a 0.6-0.7 system. Just tank your damn hulk and no one will kill you.
Dirk Decibel	Posted - 2011.02.12 18:10:00 - [202] Originally by: gDoctor Stangelove Originally by: Wellan McHuntley Hulkaguedon is organised by the Goonswarm Federation wich have the BPO for the hulk. They have a year to make a lot of them... This is wrong. The Prophet Karttoon, may his name forever live in shame, asked Goonswarm to help kill the infidels. After a while Karttoon went out and kicked all the directors from Goons and stole most of their stuff and turned off all the POS's so goons lost the region of DELVE. HULK BPO's have nothing to do with this. Karttoon best Goon! ^^
Umega Solis Mensa	Posted - 2011.02.12 20:59:00 - [203] Edited by: Umega on 12/02/2011 21:01:47 Originally by: gDoctor Stangelove Originally by: Taedrin Good god people, put the hulk away and mine in a covetor if you must. It's not that big of a deal! Originally by: Zircalla Edited by: Zircalla on 11/02/2011 14:26:33 Edited by: Zircalla on 11/02/2011 14:25:48 Bah! Working with, working against, blah, blah, blah... I am thinking we have finally found a use for some black ops ships - I think we will try cloaking one near a fully tanked hulk and see if someone tries to gank it. With Sebos and a command ship in system, we can lock on in well under 2 seconds and turn on 4 shield transporters, a remote armor repper, and a remote hull repper. Should massively increase the tank of the hulk :). Anyway, can't think of much else to do with a Black Ops bs anyway. HA has given the Black Ops ships meaning! Won't work when they can instapop the hulk before the repper even has a chance to lock the hulk. A tanked hulk is impossible to kill unless you have about 2000 DPS on it in a 0.6-0.7 system. Just tank your damn hulk and no one will kill you. This is soooooo true.. Impossible. But you'll need to fit some Pithi A-type shield amps.. and you can perma-run a Gisti B-type small shield booster.. you should definitely fit these and tank your hulks, cause there is no possible way you'll get ganked in a tanked hulk. Impossible. EDIT: The Caldari and Dread Guristas invuln fields are also very nice in tanking your Hulks.. I STRONGLY recommend them. ---------------------------------------- Treat the EVE markets like you are its Pimp.. it is your 'willing' employee to fondle n use n abuse as you please.
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.12 22:56:00 - [204] Quote: This is soooooo true.. Impossible. But you'll need to fit some Pithi A-type shield amps.. and you can perma-run a Gisti B-type small shield booster.. you should definitely fit these and tank your hulks, cause there is no possible way you'll get ganked in a tanked hulk. Impossible. EDIT: The Caldari and Dread Guristas invuln fields are also very nice in tanking your Hulks.. I STRONGLY recommend them. Is this a joke or are you trying to pre-load your kill damage? Oh yes, put the most expensive items you can find on your lumbering non-combat ship.. because it will make you soooo invincible.. and don't forget to tell everyone where you'll be.. so we can come and ....look..yeah that's the ticket. Kill an expensive ship - get brag rights.. kill an expensive ship with faction gear on it - make some money when faction gear drops off into the wreak.
Reaper XI	Posted - 2011.02.12 23:25:00 - [205] Originally by: Barbara Nichole Is this a joke or are you trying to pre-load your kill damage? Oh yes, put the most expensive items you can find on your lumbering non-combat ship.. because it will make you soooo invincible.. and don't forget to tell everyone where you'll be.. so we can come and ....look..yeah that's the ticket. Kill an expensive ship - get brag rights.. kill an expensive ship with faction gear on it - make some money when faction gear drops off into the wreak. You make decent money suiciding Hulks anyway. That's part of the fun. Hulks normaly have t2 strips and cargo expanders which sell for a few mil each + mining crystals + t2 salvage. ~15 mil worth of loot normaly drops A faction/ deapspace fitted Hulk is a nice bonus (yes some idiots actualy do it). You lose a few tens of thousands of isk suiciding a thrasher, in exchange for a few mil in loot after it's divied up between 4/5 of you.
Tuggboat Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.13 02:06:00 - [206] Don't you make more farming rats to get your security standing back up though? Meet your inner carebear.
Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts	Posted - 2011.02.13 04:24:00 - [207] Originally by: Tuggboat Don't you make more farming rats to get your security standing back up though? Meet your inner carebear. Farming rats is completely unsastisfying... -------------------------------------------- Quote: EVE-Online... Too rough for ya? Don't like it? GTFO...
Shakon	Posted - 2011.02.13 05:05:00 - [208] Besides they just Bio Mas the toon anyway. And go back to macro ratting.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.02.13 14:54:00 - [209] Originally by: Shakon Besides they just Bio Mas the toon anyway. And go back to macro ratting. You sound so mad! You keep sperging your delusions and misinformation all over the forums as if it were truth; but at the end of the line you're just a joker, and my name is the one they remember. Recycling alts is a bannable offense, as I've pointed out many times before, and take special care to point out to players joining the hulkageddon orphanage for the event; regardless of that no alt has ever won any big prizes thusfar, they tend to go to -10 pirates who are extremely driven to beat other pirate corps in the contest. But please, do continue your amusing rhetoric and whining, it keeps me cheerful through the workdays.
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.13 18:05:00 - [210] Originally by: Helicity Boson Originally by: Shakon Besides they just Bio Mas the toon anyway. And go back to macro ratting. You sound so mad! I didn't get "mad" out of that.. cynical yes.

egola Amarr	Posted - 2011.02.14 01:03:00 - [211] hmmm it isn't a breach of service but you know how it always is, theres a very fine line between harassment/exploit and featured gameplay
Shakon	Posted - 2011.02.14 01:18:00 - [212] Edited by: Shakon on 14/02/2011 01:21:48 Poor Boson you Mad? You always claim that every Year. Along with the I hate bots but wont touch 0.0. HAHAH I love watching you cry about how good you are for eve. Thats better than Pirates whining about improving low sec. Only one with Misinformation is you. But a Sheep like yourself would never understand that. I mean after all Your the savior of Eve. Or thats how you post which really is funny as hell. No lets see some data on banned Biomassed Toons. WHat dont have any??? Why not? I am SHOCKED! edit As for My self you dont like what I say make me shut up. You love critizing people and things they say but can't handle it yourself. Another thing i find funny. HMM whats that word you and your kind like???? AHHHHH Love the Tears !
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.02.14 06:21:00 - [213] Originally by: egola hmmm it isn't a breach of service but you know how it always is, theres a very fine line between harassment/exploit and featured gameplay That's why we quintuple checked with GMs that it was within the rules before the first Hulkageddon.
Aessoroz Nohbdy.	Posted - 2011.02.14 13:58:00 - [214] Edited by: Aessoroz on 14/02/2011 13:57:53 Originally by: egola hmmm it isn't a breach of service but you know how it always is, theres a very fine line between harassment/exploit and featured gameplay Featured gameplay - yep, nonconsensual pvp is a feature harassment - nope exploit - nope, as long as concord takes out the ganker ships in the end its all good.
Zircalla	Posted - 2011.02.14 15:58:00 - [215] In the 'old' days (but not really so long ago), new alts got like 750k skill points to start with, so with minimal training you could get a gank alt very quickly. I assume (even with baseline skill and 2x training speed) that you would have to spend a little bit more time to get a gank alt going.
Jaik7	Posted - 2011.02.14 16:22:00 - [216] why is this thread still alive? who keeps feeding the troll? is it people like me who are wondering why the troll is still alive? does doubt of the continued existance of the troll feed it?
Zircalla	Posted - 2011.02.14 16:29:00 - [217] I know you know it is going to be pointed out, but calling the kettle black.... Anyway, to answer your question - HA starts latter this week (I think) and people are interested/excited/concerned about it, maybe?
Shakon	Posted - 2011.02.14 18:53:00 - [218] Actually I do this to Boson every year. Its sorta funny watching Him try and trot out how everyone but him is clueless.... Plus I get bored luring in gankers next to hek in Ice fields Im haveing bad luck this year and some one else is going to get the Ganker prize again. ELLO im in a helpless Hulk ICE mining Im probably a bot come shoot me yes?
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.14 22:02:00 - [219] Originally by: Kara Deus Edited by: Kara Deus on 03/12/2010 21:53:41 Are you really this daft or are you flame baiting?... In my 37 years of existence in America I have never seen anything you just described her to be? You description sounds more like downtown Tikrit. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Also what do you qualify as a threat? Anything that does not agree with your Theology? Accidentally used my alt for this post. Sorry. Amazing you made it 38 years. In other news, Hulkagheddon is against the TOS of eve online if you interpret the word "harassment" in the legal definition according to US law. CCP doesn't operate under those rules so it will never give 2 ****s about it.
AthlonJedi Gallente RazorBlade Smile Inc. Trifecta.	Posted - 2011.02.15 03:16:00 - [220] Edited by: AthlonJedi on 15/02/2011 03:22:53 lol OP sounds like a macromining isk seller if you ask me, whining about something thats been a CCP ENDORSED event for the past 3 yrs? maybe its because he wont be able to macromine for a week and his family will go hungry if he cant sell enough isk? Really man, this is EVE not Second Life , If this is to adult of a game for you, maybe you should stick to something like toontown. Infact I think just for kicks Ill use my locator agent and start hulkageddon erly for just little ol you. Anyone else wanna join me and watch the chinese text fly in local as this guy watches his hulk turn to dust before his very eyes? sounds like good times to me.

Lonox	Posted - 2011.02.15 12:00:00 - [221] Originally by: Shakon Edited by: Shakon on 14/02/2011 19:00:58 Actually I do this to Boson every year. Its sorta funny watching Him try and trot out how everyone but him is clueless.... Plus I get bored luring in gankers next to hek in Ice fields Im hopeing not to have bad luck this year and some one else gets the Ganker prize again. ELLO im in a helpless Hulk ICE mining Im probably a bot come shoot me yes? Other than that The event really has no effect on me other than trolling Boson and his Iite PvPers who seem to have trouble finding real Bots in there own corps(and allainces) or out in 0.0 say like 2/3rds of all 0.0 Sov holders? Botters have to do something with all that isk, might as well throw some of it a hulkageddon.
Tasko Pal Spallated Garniferous Schist	Posted - 2011.02.15 12:56:00 - [222] Originally by: Jaik7 why is this thread still alive? who keeps feeding the troll? is it people like me who are wondering why the troll is still alive? does doubt of the continued existance of the troll feed it? It's a Hulkageddon advertisement. I imagine it'll die once the event is over.
Ingvar Angst Amarr Omni Industrial Coalition Crooked Cross	Posted - 2011.02.15 13:26:00 - [223] Originally by: Cipher Jones In other news, Hulkagheddon is against the TOS of eve online if you interpret the word "harassment" in the legal definition according to US law. CCP doesn't operate under those rules so it will never give 2 ****s about it. Actually, legally, it's not harassment if you yell "surprise!" before you shoot. Little known loophole.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2011.02.15 13:35:00 - [224] Originally by: Ingvar Angst Originally by: Cipher Jones In other news, Hulkagheddon is against the TOS of eve online if you interpret the word "harassment" in the legal definition according to US law. CCP doesn't operate under those rules so it will never give 2 ****s about it. Actually, legally, it's not harassment if you yell "surprise!" before you shoot. Little known loophole. It also works if you begin your attack by asking "What did you say about my mother?"
Tasko Pal Spallated Garniferous Schist	Posted - 2011.02.15 14:32:00 - [225] It shouldn't be that hard to show no griefing. If you're popping hulks like crazy, then that's a defense in itself. You blew up the ship because it was a hulk, not because you were trying to annoy or bother the person flying it. If you suicide the same guy's ship ten times in a row, that's a bit harder, but you still probably can justify it, if you can demonstrate a legitimate in-game reason (he's an alt for a foe in a war, for example).


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