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paleyd
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:34:00 -
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On behalf of a friend I am posting his request for CCP's response toward a recently incident in Serenity Server.
His letter follows below:
Dear CCP
Rumors have claimed that with the help and authorization of CCP, Tiancity the agent of Serenity server have issued a GM ship Polaris to a player ID called FM8052F«¦FÇà. The owner of this ID works for a player owned online radio station FM8052 which reports events in Serenity on their online channel. Recently the radio station reporters have encountered difficulties in reporting the ongoing war in Serenity due to malicious aggression from the warring factions. In order to safely broadcast the ongoing war, they have asked Tiancity for help and this is how the authorization of a GM ship in Serenity came to be.
Though many restrictions have been put upon this ID and the ship, I still have some doubts that needs clarifying.
1. Did CCP really authorize the ship and know the whole picture that it will be in the hands of an individual player and the ship could go anywhere it wants with total immunity from any kind of aggression? (NOT A GM!! ALSO NOT A ISD:IC MEMBER!!)
2. Is it really necessary and acceptable to authorize such a privileged ship to an ordinary player on his request just to report 'news'?
3. What kind of precautions have CCP and Tiancity deployed to prevent this player and ID, if unfortunate, breaking the integrity of Serenity and EVE-Online?
The Players in Serenity love this game and this incident concerns us greatly. We hope to hear from CCP and explain the situation as soon as possible.
Yours Sincerely
EVE Player in Serenity Server
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Shalia Ripper
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:36:00 -
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Came in expecting Firefly discussion.
Left disappointed.
Why can't I just delete my signature CCP? WHYYYYYYY? |
Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition
VORTEX RISING
190
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:36:00 -
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Wrong Forum, GD is for discussion of TQ. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
2621
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:36:00 -
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He can't use it to gain an in-game advantage and can only use is in an official capacity to report.
If you think it's unfair then apply to ISD.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
paleyd
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:40:00 -
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Charles Baker wrote:Wrong Forum, GD is for discussion of TQ.
then where do I post this? |
Pipa Porto
671
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:42:00 -
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paleyd wrote:Charles Baker wrote:Wrong Forum, GD is for discussion of TQ. then where do I post this?
Serenity has forums, I assume.
Anyway, CCP doesn't run Serenity.
EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
459
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:44:00 -
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inb4 chinese government kicks down the OP's door for posting on western forums.
Here, let us tell you all about freedom, democracy, etc.
EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |
Lilliana Stelles
Mindstar Technology
Executive Outcomes
369
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:47:00 -
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Sounds like BS.
I doubt they'd issue a ship when a covops can safely report on a war already.
Edit:
http://bbs.tiancity.com/Forum/showbbs_eve.aspx
Appropriate forums for this. |
paleyd
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 20:56:00 -
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Lilliana Stelles wrote:Sounds like BS.
I doubt they'd issue a ship when a covops can safely report on a war already.
Apperently the reporter was dumb enough to get caught and podded in a covops and asked for official help. The funny thing is that they did actually issue the Polaris Observer with a brand new ID for it. I know that ISD:IC members take part in embedded news reporting on Factional Warfare among the 4 empires but this is something totally different. I doubt that CCP mistook PVP faction wars for Faction Warfare of the 4 empires since they are literally the same words in Chinese. |
Renan Ruivo
Irmandade
Vera Cruz Alliance
845
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:06:00 -
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CCP does not control Serenity?
Honest question.
The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
Lilliana Stelles
Mindstar Technology
Executive Outcomes
369
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:17:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:CCP does not control Serenity?
Honest question.
Tiancity does.
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Renan Ruivo
Irmandade
Vera Cruz Alliance
845
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:20:00 -
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Lilliana Stelles wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:CCP does not control Serenity?
Honest question. Tiancity does.
Who is that guy?!
If i see him in TQ i will kill his mega with my iteron.
The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:24:00 -
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Are you suggesting corruption on the part of Chinese "officials"?
Huh... |
Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc
En Garde
524
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:27:00 -
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since when haven't the chinese cheated? |
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:28:00 -
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Think its more a misinterpretation. Those ships are given to certain individuals for reporting reasons. Similar to the ISD on Tranq. The same is probably done on Serenity but have different requirements/restrictions/name. |
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CCP Explorer
C C P
C C P Alliance
843
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:28:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:CCP does not control Serenity? Serenity is operated by our Chinese partner, Tiancity.
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
The Marmite Collective
2200
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:29:00 -
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CCP should give me a Jove battleship and let me run amok until it's destroyed. Call it a live event.
The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711 |
paleyd
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:30:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Are you suggesting corruption on the part of Chinese "officials"?
Huh...
Tiancity claims that they have had help and authorization from CCP to issue the ship. My friend suggests that CCP might have not seen the whole picture. the Polaris Observer issued is owned by a player organization and could literally strode the whole eve universe with out any restriction.
Imagine a invulnerable ship doing recon daily at your doorsteps.
Gives me goosebumps |
paleyd
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:35:00 -
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Syler Puuntai wrote:Think its more a misinterpretation. Those ships are given to certain individuals for reporting reasons. Similar to the ISD on Tranq. The same is probably done on Serenity but have different requirements/restrictions/name.
The player own organization clarfies itself as having nothing to do with Tiancity the Serenity Server agent. Yet Tiancity issues a Polaris Observer to this organization without any early notice and claims that they have had authorization for CCP. This is what my friend is skeptical about. |
Traejun DiSanctis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:39:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:Came in expecting Firefly discussion.
Left disappointed.
Same. |
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:43:00 -
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paleyd wrote:Syler Puuntai wrote:Think its more a misinterpretation. Those ships are given to certain individuals for reporting reasons. Similar to the ISD on Tranq. The same is probably done on Serenity but have different requirements/restrictions/name. The player own organization clarfies itself as having nothing to do with Tiancity the Serenity Server agent. Yet Tiancity issues a Polaris Observer to this organization without any early notice and claims that they have had authorization for CCP. This is what my friend is skeptical about.
If its ran by Tiancity then it really doesn't need authorization from CCP to release something like that. I don't know Tiancity's policy on this ship however like i said earlier they are probably using it for the same purposes as what player reporters use it for on Tranq. Also same with Tranq. I'm sure Serenity have a monitoring system to check for abuse like what you are worried about. |
Jim Era
The Syndicate Inc
En Garde
524
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:49:00 -
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I'd doubt it. |
Renan Ruivo
Irmandade
Vera Cruz Alliance
845
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:55:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:CCP does not control Serenity? Serenity is operated by our Chinese partner, Tiancity.
Oh, so its a business partner. Thanks for the clarification.
So ... can i have Polaris? For news. I swear.
The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
49
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:55:00 -
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Syler Puuntai wrote: as what player reporters use it for on Tranq. Also same with Tranq.
"Player Reporters" outside of ISD do not get shiny GM ships period. I'm not even sure the ISD reporting side even monitors combat these days, we don't get battlereports often at all from them and they tend to leave it to players who took part in the fights.
Resident Haruhiist since December 2008.
Laying claim to Out of Pod Experience since 2007, plain and simple.
Keep the trash out of Out Of Pod Experience, If it's EVE Related or deserves a Lock, it does not belong here. |
Spy 21
Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage
152
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Posted - 2012.08.10 21:56:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:CCP does not control Serenity? Serenity is operated by our Chinese partner, Tiancity.
And CCP had to hand over control of their intellectual property to the Chinese partner I 'm guessing?
Surprised we've not seen a Chinese knockoff of the game already.
S
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paleyd
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:01:00 -
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Syler Puuntai wrote:paleyd wrote:Syler Puuntai wrote:Think its more a misinterpretation. Those ships are given to certain individuals for reporting reasons. Similar to the ISD on Tranq. The same is probably done on Serenity but have different requirements/restrictions/name. The player own organization clarfies itself as having nothing to do with Tiancity the Serenity Server agent. Yet Tiancity issues a Polaris Observer to this organization without any early notice and claims that they have had authorization for CCP. This is what my friend is skeptical about. If its ran by Tiancity then it really doesn't need authorization from CCP to release something like that. I don't know Tiancity's policy on this ship however like i said earlier they are probably using it for the same purposes as what player reporters use it for on Tranq. Also same with Tranq. I'm sure Serenity have a monitoring system to check for abuse like what you are worried about.
The problem is since this is a player owned organization when abuse of this ship happens and damage done there's no one to blame. Simply banning this ID would just be a joke since the player behind the screen could just find another ID.
But the real damage in this incident is that it marks that Tiancity could change things as they wish on a 'request of an ordinary reporter'. Who knows what this agent could do?
Would CCP manually lower prices of a profitable module due to a request of a player claiming that the price is too high?
I doubt it. |
paleyd
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:03:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:CCP does not control Serenity? Serenity is operated by our Chinese partner, Tiancity. Oh, so its a business partner. Thanks for the clarification. So ... can i have Polaris? For news. I swear.
NO! NO! Ask for a Jovian Battleship! I haven't seen one since Clearskies III |
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
Still Censored
1
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:06:00 -
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What player owned organization? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
4440
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:07:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:CCP does not control Serenity? Serenity is operated by our Chinese partner, Tiancity.
THE CONSPIRACY!! oh wai... nm 
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Cadfael Maelgwyn
Immortals of New Eden
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
78
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Posted - 2012.08.10 22:07:00 -
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Spy 21 wrote:Surprised we've not seen a Chinese knockoff of the game already.
S
I'm pretty sure I've seen several iPhone/smartphone games that use pictures and basic graphics from EVE that were made by Chinese developers.
Dunno if that counts or not. |
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