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Nyu Shin	Posted - 2010.12.06 19:51:00 - [61] "Traitors" and "catching bulltes" ? This thread is becoming hot. CCP, time to clean up or close it.
Caleidascope Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.12.06 19:53:00 - [62] Close it. We all know where we stand.
Janet Marshall Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.06 19:54:00 - [63] Originally by: Nyu Shin "Traitors" and "catching bulltes" ? This thread is becoming hot. CCP, time to clean up or close it. Penn and Teller do it all the time. Its a magic trick.
Vogue Skynet Nexus	Posted - 2010.12.06 19:55:00 - [64] Imo British relations to USA is irrespective of whetever Labour or the Tories or a Tory\Lib pact, is in office. As I have said before I am of the opinion that the UK is a pet alliance to the USA. The UK has has kickbacks like the Japanese car factories and US merchant banks in London. But it makes us economically subservient to the USA. I have really enjoyed visiting the USA. And admire much about it. But I don't want Americans determining our foreign policy with us being so slavish about it. But I live in a prosperous country of 60 million inhabitants. So in the global food chain we are in league 2 / 7th in terms of GDP. ..................................................
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.06 19:56:00 - [65] Originally by: Jason Marshall I don't care how insignificant it was. He leaked it, he is a traitor. It sets an example. "Well that guy got death for leaking some videos of some journalists getting shot up, I wonder what they will do to me if I release this list of places my government considers High value." The difference is one is justified while the other is not. Everyone in the UK was thankfull for the person who leaked the footage of the US warplane that opened up on our tanks in iraq.
Jason Marshall Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.12.06 19:57:00 - [66] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Jason Marshall I don't care how insignificant it was. He leaked it, he is a traitor. It sets an example. "Well that guy got death for leaking some videos of some journalists getting shot up, I wonder what they will do to me if I release this list of places my government considers High value." The difference is one is justified while the other is not. Everyone in the UK was thankfull for the person who leaked the footage of the US warplane that opened up on our tanks in iraq. Betraying your country is never justified. There were legal means to get the footage.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:02:00 - [67] Originally by: Jason Marshall Betraying your country is never justified. There were legal means to get the footage. No there wasnt. Same as how the UK cannot order the USA to extradite people wanted over here.
Jason Marshall Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:04:00 - [68] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Jason Marshall Betraying your country is never justified. There were legal means to get the footage. No there wasnt. Same as how the UK cannot order the USA to extradite people wanted over here. Yes, there Is. Linkage
Malaclypse Muscaria	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:08:00 - [69] Originally by: Jason Marshall I don't care how insignificant it was. He leaked it, he is a traitor. It sets an example. "Well that guy got death for leaking some videos of some journalists getting shot up, I wonder what they will do to me if I release this list of places my government considers High value." ... Assange is not a USian. Maybe you would've been aware of this fact already if you had kept that head of yours out of Sarah Palin's ass, and breathed something that wasn't her rectal fumes for a change. But besides that point, your argument is simply retarded. Corruption and abuse of power should be exposed and fought, no matter your what your passport says.
ceaon	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:08:00 - [70] Originally by: Jason Marshall He is a traitor. principles>nationality Originally by: Danton Marcellus If the whole country is corrupted then it's no longer corruption but culture.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:12:00 - [71] Originally by: Jason Marshall Yes, there Is. Linkage How exactly do you demand footage the petagon denies even exstis? And if they were not bothered about letting this info out why did the pentagon fly into a rage at the UK papers that ran the story?
Jason Marshall Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:12:00 - [72] Originally by: Malaclypse Muscaria Originally by: Jason Marshall I don't care how insignificant it was. He leaked it, he is a traitor. It sets an example. "Well that guy got death for leaking some videos of some journalists getting shot up, I wonder what they will do to me if I release this list of places my government considers High value." ... Assange is not a USian. Maybe you would've been aware of this fact already if you had kept that head of yours out of Sarah Palin's ass, and breathed something that wasn't her rectal fumes for a change. But besides that point, your argument is simply retarded. Corruption and abuse of power should be exposed and fought, no matter your what your passport says. Im talking about the american private first class. And No, Im sorry governments need secrets. If you dont like government go live in somolia where there hardly is one. Im a gun loving, pailin hating Alaskan who supports socializing healthcare and taxing the rich. Pailin is a dumb broad who doesnt represent more than 2% of the american population in the slightest. Thanks to my government Im allowed to have opinions based upon whatever reason I deem neccesary. Im also allowed to own firearms to rise up against that same government when I feel it has become corrupt, that is what our second amendment was made for.
ceaon	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:16:00 - [73] Originally by: Jason Marshall Yes, there Is. Linkage where ? also USA never gived the soldiers that killed Jose Couso also Teo Peter Quote: Peter was killed in a traffic accident at 4:30am on December 4, 2004 when 31-year-old U.S. Marine Staff Sergeant Christopher Van Goethem serving as a Marine Security Guard at the U.S. embassy in Bucharest[3], while driving his Ford Expedition, collided with a taxi carrying Peter.drunk Van Goethem, did not obey a traffic signal to stop, which resulted in the collision. Peter was buried on December 7 in Mănăştur Cemetery, in his native Cluj-Napoca.[4] Van Goethem's blood alcohol content was estimated at 0.09 from a breathalyzer test, but he refused to give a blood sample for further testing and left for Germany[5] before charges could be filed in Romania. The Romanian government requested the American government lift his diplomatic immunity,[6] which it has refused to do. The Marine was later cleared by a court martial of both manslaughter and adultery while convicted for obstruction of justice and making false statements. Peter's death and Van Goethem's court martial were very controversial and led to protests from Romanians[7] in the United States. Originally by: Danton Marcellus If the whole country is corrupted then it's no longer corruption but culture.
Jason Marshall Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:22:00 - [74] Originally by: ceaon Originally by: Jason Marshall Yes, there Is. Linkage where ? also USA never gived the soldiers that killed Jose Couso also Teo Peter Quote: Peter was killed in a traffic accident at 4:30am on December 4, 2004 when 31-year-old U.S. Marine Staff Sergeant Christopher Van Goethem serving as a Marine Security Guard at the U.S. embassy in Bucharest[3], while driving his Ford Expedition, collided with a taxi carrying Peter.drunk Van Goethem, did not obey a traffic signal to stop, which resulted in the collision. Peter was buried on December 7 in Mănăştur Cemetery, in his native Cluj-Napoca.[4] Van Goethem's blood alcohol content was estimated at 0.09 from a breathalyzer test, but he refused to give a blood sample for further testing and left for Germany[5] before charges could be filed in Romania. The Romanian government requested the American government lift his diplomatic immunity,[6] which it has refused to do. The Marine was later cleared by a court martial of both manslaughter and adultery while convicted for obstruction of justice and making false statements. Peter's death and Van Goethem's court martial were very controversial and led to protests from Romanians[7] in the United States. Court martial cleared him. If the romanian government wanted to change its immunity agreement it could, its the cost of doing politics in foreing countries. If it wasnt a US marine, then it would of been just another drunk driving accident. Other countries have immunity here and there are similar cases. Linkage
ceaon	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:40:00 - [75] Edited by: ceaon on 06/12/2010 20:40:48 Originally by: Jason Marshall ...stuff... if u kill ppl in a car accident and is your fault u go to jail the rest is bull** Originally by:** Danton Marcellus If the whole country is corrupted then it's no longer corruption but culture.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:42:00 - [76] Originally by: Jason Marshall Peter's death and Van Goethem's court martial were very controversial and led to protests from Romanians[7] in the United States. Court martial cleared him. If the romanian government wanted to change its immunity agreement it could, its the cost of doing politics in foreing countries. If it wasnt a US marine, then it would of been just another drunk driving accident. Other countries have immunity here and there are similar cases. Linkage I think the Romanians expected better from a country that holds freedom and the rule of law so high. The UK learned better decades ago that we cannot count on the USA to respect other nations laws. We are still waiting for the USA to hand over the people found responsible for beaching an oil tanker.
Jason Marshall Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:46:00 - [77] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Jason Marshall Peter's death and Van Goethem's court martial were very controversial and led to protests from Romanians[7] in the United States. Court martial cleared him. If the romanian government wanted to change its immunity agreement it could, its the cost of doing politics in foreing countries. If it wasnt a US marine, then it would of been just another drunk driving accident. Other countries have immunity here and there are similar cases. Linkage I think the Romanians expected better from a country that holds freedom and the rule of law so high. The UK learned better decades ago that we cannot count on the USA to respect other nations laws. We are still waiting for the USA to hand over the people found responsible for beaching an oil tanker. Im glad you learned you lesson, Romania would do well to follow suite.
ceaon	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:52:00 - [78] Originally by: Jason Marshall ... kill yourself ingame so you do a favor to gallente federation you behavior suit more for amarr empire Originally by: Danton Marcellus If the whole country is corrupted then it's no longer corruption but culture.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.06 20:52:00 - [79] Originally by: Jason Marshall Im glad you learned you lesson, Romania would do well to follow suite. So you think a guy leaking something that shows America in a bad light deserves to be shot yet belive people responsible for deaths and massive ecological damage deseve to get away with it? You watch fox news and belive it to be news dont you...

CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P	Posted - 2010.12.06 21:09:00 - [80] Thread cleaned of off-topic and political discussion. Please try to remain on topic when posting in a thread. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact Us

Jason Marshall Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.12.06 21:14:00 - [81] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of off-topic and political discussion. Please try to remain on topic when posting in a thread. The OP is a political query. He's asking for support on a political movement.
Theqwert125 Qwertian Enterprises	Posted - 2010.12.06 22:11:00 - [82] Originally by: Jason Marshall Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of off-topic and political discussion. Please try to remain on topic when posting in a thread. The OP is a political query. He's asking for support on a political movement. How is helping protect our Constitutionally and judicially guaranteed rights political? Especially when he mentioned nothing of the actual contents of the speech?
Jason Marshall Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.12.06 22:14:00 - [83] Originally by: Theqwert125 Originally by: Jason Marshall Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of off-topic and political discussion. Please try to remain on topic when posting in a thread. The OP is a political query. He's asking for support on a political movement. How is helping protect our Constitutionally and judicially guaranteed rights political? Especially when he mentioned nothing of the actual contents of the speech? Hes asking for people to support a political organization. Thus making the whole topic political. if he was asking to mirror, say the Childs Play website. Then it would be different. But he is trying to help people with political agendas and a political platform.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.12.06 23:49:00 - [84] Originally by: Blood Ghost I was all for backing this, but the releases are starting to get out of hand. There's been nothing "shocking", just opinions, and now they've just released a list of targets ... most of that is pretty obvious don't ya think? the article is rather brief, but sounds like most if it is world infrastructure, so I would imagine most governments think they are important. logistics logistics logistics!
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.12.06 23:54:00 - [85] Originally by: Jason Marshall Originally by: Theqwert125 Originally by: Jason Marshall Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Thread cleaned of off-topic and political discussion. Please try to remain on topic when posting in a thread. The OP is a political query. He's asking for support on a political movement. How is helping protect our Constitutionally and judicially guaranteed rights political? Especially when he mentioned nothing of the actual contents of the speech? Hes asking for people to support a political organization. Thus making the whole topic political. if he was asking to mirror, say the Childs Play website. Then it would be different. But he is trying to help people with political agendas and a political platform. Poor, poor choice. Thread itself is not political; stop trying to get it shut because you dun like it. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
Jason Marshall Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.12.07 00:10:00 - [86] Originally by: So Sensational Wikileaks is as much a political organization as any other media outlet. The head of the BBC doesn't seem to want anything more than to make a buck while providing the world with news. He's not out subverting governments.
Shalkto Gallente Beyond The Gates	Posted - 2010.12.07 00:12:00 - [87] Edited by: Shalkto on 07/12/2010 00:13:32 Wikileaks is a political organization? really and in which country are they running candidates? What is their platform? If its a Political Organization then the Red Cross must be a facist state. +1 Mr. Assange. BTW the WikiLeaks did disclose the most damaging information of all...it revealed that WE canadians are self obsessed with our personal image in the eyes of Americans and we have anti-american TV shows....Go Canada.
Jason Marshall Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.12.07 00:18:00 - [88] Originally by: Shalkto Edited by: Shalkto on 07/12/2010 00:13:32 Wikileaks is a political organization? really and in which country are they running candidates? What is their platform? If its a Political Organization then the Red Cross must be a facist state. +1 Mr. Assange. BTW the WikiLeaks did disclose the most damaging information of all...it revealed that WE canadians are self obsessed with our personal image in the eyes of Americans and we have anti-american TV shows....Go Canada. Lobbyists. You dont have to support a candidate, just a political thought or idea to be a political organization.
Shalkto Gallente Beyond The Gates	Posted - 2010.12.07 00:22:00 - [89] drifting off topic a bit here you are wrong jason and you are not supporting your arguments. Back on topic. Thanks for the link will replace my company site and try and mirror wikileaks with it.
Jason Marshall Gallente Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.12.07 00:26:00 - [90] Originally by: Shalkto drifting off topic a bit here you are wrong jason and you are not supporting your arguments. Back on topic. Thanks for the link will replace my company site and try and mirror wikileaks with it. Id assume the definitions of the words "Political" and "Organization" do just fine.

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