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Dante Cowboy
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:06:00 -
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I think an incursus has an align time of 4.5 seconds with inertia stabilizers. What ships can scram and take it down if its going through lowsec or nullsec? I take it a BC or higher can't do it. Are there sentry guns on nullsec gates?
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Selinate
Amarr Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:10:00 -
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another frigate?
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Cailais
Amarr Random Pirate's
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:11:00 -
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A interdictor, or cruiser will catch a ship with that align time, as will a heavy dictor with a sensor booster - dependant on player skill of course.
There are no sentry guns on a null sec gate.
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Yuki Kulotsuki
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:11:00 -
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nullsec: lrn2bubble
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Sophie Vherokior
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:14:00 -
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There are no sentry guns on null-sec gates.
Interdictors can launch interdiction spheres, which are bubbles that prevent anything inside the radius of about 20km from warping, so those are a good bet. They only work in null-sec though.
For low-sec you will need a ship with some sensor boosters that can also tank the gate guns. Heavy interdictors are good for this, especially if they get remotely sensor boosted by your gang-mates.
/Soph
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Dante Cowboy
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:28:00 -
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Dictors aside, I guess I might be a good idea to use the mwd+cloak trick as well....
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Commissar Kate
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:30:00 -
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A Lachesis with a couple sensor boosters would have a good chance of catching a frig, especially with its long point/scram range.
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McRoll
Minmatar The Legion of Darkness
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:30:00 -
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In case you are solo and in lowsec, a Legion or Loki with tactical targeting subsystem and sebos can do it. Smartbombing BS are good as well if you have a scout a system ahead. I am experimenting with a sniper Mach right now but it is really difficult to get a lock on something faster than a plated/assault frig. Please ensure your signature is within the allowed size of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24,000 bytes. Navigator |
Dhaul
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:45:00 -
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Pretty much any ship with enough sebos and/or remote sebos can catch any non-cloaky ship before it can warp.
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Magnus Orin
Minmatar United Systems Navy Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dhaul Pretty much any ship with enough sebos and/or remote sebos can catch any non-cloaky ship before it can warp.
Pretty much this.
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Jas Dor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:51:00 -
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Although, I have seen faction frigs with istabbs that could get into warp before the cloak animation dropped. I'm assuming that the frig doesn't hit overview until the animation ends, but honestly even if it doesn't there's probably no way for a human to react fast enough to catch such frigs.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2010.12.15 21:59:00 -
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i-stabbed frig piloted by a high sp character, you are not catching, they are in warp before the server does its cycle.
poorly trained pilot without align bonus mods fit, easy to one volly in a remote sebo BS
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Your Client
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Posted - 2010.12.15 22:11:00 -
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Sensor boosters + Scan resolution scripts + Targeting system controllers + Remote sensor boosters support = VERY fast locker.
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Frito11
Eve Defence Force Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.12.15 23:22:00 -
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if you need to tank sentry guns (low-sec)
Assault frigate + gang mates remote sensor boosting you + logi keeping you from DIAF = 2000+ scan res
2nd best thing is a Lachesis with sensor boosters and scan res scrips = 1600 scan res + remote sensor boosters for ever more scan res.
if your in 0.0 dictor, hictor, large bubbles.
if your trying to catch ceptors/dramiels good luck a good pilot in one of those ships will rarely get caught at a gate but it can happen.
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Orb Lati
Minmatar ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.16 00:37:00 -
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"What ship can catch a frigate at a gate"
So let me get this straight. You are asking us what ship might be good for Interception ? ....... hrmmmmm, well that is a difficult question.
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.12.16 01:30:00 -
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The Ares has a pretty obscene lock time.
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Arkanor
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems
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Posted - 2010.12.16 03:13:00 -
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Edited by: Arkanor on 16/12/2010 03:13:17
Originally by: Orb Lati "What ship can catch a frigate at a gate"
So let me get this straight. You are asking us what ship might be good for Interception ? ....... hrmmmmm, well that is a difficult question.
How well does your interceptor tank gate guns?
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Zaboth Garadath
Amarr Ore Extraction Corporation
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Posted - 2010.12.16 04:13:00 -
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HACs are nice...
When I used to camp the EC->Torr gate, always used a pulse zealot with 1/2 sebos.
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Diomedes Calypso
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Posted - 2010.12.16 04:30:00 -
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I think a Legion is pretty high up there and can tank the guns fine
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.12.16 04:35:00 -
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A couple of Aligned Arty Thrashers.
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Jennifer Starling
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.12.16 08:38:00 -
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Conclusion: use Sensor Boosters (and Signal Amplifier) Smaller ships lock faster but frigates can't tank lowsec gate guns.
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2010.12.16 08:44:00 -
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You want a scanres of around 1200 to catch it.
Dual SeBo HIC isnt enough, you still need remote SeBos if you use one.
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Carniflex
StarHunt R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.12.16 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jas Dor Although, I have seen faction frigs with istabbs that could get into warp before the cloak animation dropped. I'm assuming that the frig doesn't hit overview until the animation ends, but honestly even if it doesn't there's probably no way for a human to react fast enough to catch such frigs.
EVE servers have internal 'tick' of 1 second. So stuff you do happens once per second and all actions are rounded up to nearest full second (other than guns/modules on autorepeat if action takes more than one 'volley'). For example if you have RoF of 6.1 seconds and can pop targets in 1 volley then in reality your RoF will be 7.0 seconds as it is rounded up.
I do not think you can make anything warp faster than 1 second. Well ok - perhaps pod or shuttle with proper gang bonuses. If it takes more than 1 second for thing to warp it can be nailed (in theory) by having sensor boosted tackling interceptor that has point running 'hot' and has inhumanly fast reflexes(or who is bot). For example Raptor with 2 sensor boosters and 3x Signal Amps will get scan resolution of ~3300 resulting in locking speed of 0.8 seconds on a pod. Less for anything else.
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CCP Spitfire
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Posted - 2010.12.16 09:20:00 -
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Moved from 'EVE General Discussion'.
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McRoll
Minmatar The Legion of Darkness
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Posted - 2010.12.16 17:59:00 -
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try something like this if you are not afraid to invest some money. has 1257 scan res and can permatank sentries. you can play around with the fitting to get some more scan res out of it, by replacing one targeting system sub for example. i wouldnt recommend it however becaue even 1200 scan res is often not enough for the faster frigs.
otherwise its a nice ship, i flew a simmilar legion and got quite some kills with it before i lost it to 3 vagas and gateguns. i had 3 targeting system subs there though so couldnt hold on for a couple of seconds longer to deagress- this one is a bit tankier so you should be able to deagress in time if **** hits the fan. Please ensure your signature is within the allowed size of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24,000 bytes. Navigator |
Devil tiger
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Posted - 2010.12.16 22:34:00 -
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A fleet with smarts works wonders as well...
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