Obviously, except I didn't say "we will take them back".

I said "we will take them right back."

There's a bit of a distinction there:

right: immediately; promptly.

We're doing in a few days what took Amarr over a month to do.

Sorry for not being clearer.

i agree defensive plexing sucks, but it's necessary suckage. get over it.

Irrelevant chest beating.

Not empty quoting.

lol I love you

It's just question of willingness

We're doing in a few days what took Amarr over a month to do.

Sorry for not being clearer.

The minmatard farming offensive is only 44h old but the gunless frigate swarm have already made 2 systems vulnerable. Another 10 systems is contested 70-90%. When those twelve systems are put into vulnerable state the gunless minmatards only need 21 more systems and they are currently contested at 18-70%.

In less than 2 days the minmatar militia is almost 2/3 on their way to T5 warzone control. That is a new record! Some claim this is because minmatar are are brave and well organized fighters. There are even rumors some of them fit guns on their ships. But it is also easy to see that the sheer number of gunless frigates is virtually unbeatable.

Superior numbers have always been an advantage in EVE. But this is not your ordinary blob. EVE has evolved and now the blob doesn't even need guns to win the war and warp core stabilizers are in high demand.

Define "we" please.

Bad attempt at trolling on his part as quite a few systems were vulnerable shortly after Nulli entered the area. It's just that Nulli had no vested interest to bust systems until enough were vulnerable and their members had farmed enough LP to properly cash in on those navy geddons or whatever they wanted to make their doctrine again.

It's the same thing in both fronts. Farmer alts of all militias stay in systems which are already vulnerable and nobody lives in and if they are stupid enough to take gunless frigates to peoples home systems, they are lucky to get 1 plex done before they get chased out. Sometimes said farmer alts get killed and podded even for merely peeking into such systems and words quickly gets around among the carebears that some systems just are not worth it.

I dont see anybody in any militia having interest to defend a system they dont live in or know their friends live in since the number of farming alts is just so silly across the board.

So we are now in "Bantustan" situation I predicted with home systems being contested anywhere between 0-10% and pretty much everything else being permanently vulnerable and waiting for the next LP dump cycle...

I take it that you think current mechanics are fine and enjoy the fact that both wealth and FW control is being decided by the number of farmers a faction can field and that these farmers can be very low sp and don't even need to fit guns.

No I dont think so in the least and i've voiced my displeasure of it in other threads and nowhere I said that Amarr should HTFU*. I have quite enough minmatar carebears like Xuixien in our space whose achievements in Eve are limited to running away and spamming local.

*Unless you count suggestions that perhaps when systems are flipped, Amarr could attempt to create more dynamic battlefield by putting some "boots" to Metropolis.

I wouldn't mind at all if we were being pushed back by guns. That is how it should be. But that is not the case. We are pushed back by easymode semi-AFK farming alts mostly and a lot of them comes from our very own militia. That is the ****** up part about the game.

Caldari militia is able to hold several enemy systems deep within enemy space and we are massively outnumbered by the Gallente in both pvp & farming toons (Most gallente players have 1-2 matar farming alts). Of course Gallente will now make the obligatory "Lies, we get blobbed all the time" post like they have done for the past years whenever someone dares to say the truth about the warzone.

Gj ccp, changing faction warfare from fight club to farm fest - best idea ever.

Amarr could probably do more to make FW more interesting I agree. But thing is, we are facing such a huge plexing army that we need to have a very strong presence to be able to defend a single system. And right now we can only manage that in a few systems mainly in the kamela/kourm area. .

Caldari militia is able to hold several enemy systems deep within enemy space and we are massively outnumbered by the Gallente in both pvp & farming toons (Most gallente players have 1-2 matar farming alts). Of course Gallente will now make the obligatory "Lies, we get blobbed all the time" post like they have done for the past years whenever someone dares to say the truth about the warzone.

Since Amarr plexes are so much easier than Caldari, all those minmatar plexers stopped farming Caldari space (which isn't counted in VP totals) and returned home to farm Amarr space (which now is counted and you can see the huge jump in Minmatar VP after Nulli flipped all those Minmatar systems).

In the past, the Caldari were the kings of plexing easily doing 2-3x what the next militia did (Minmatar, Gallente, and Amarr were very close in VP). After nulli left, the minmatar are now the kings of plexing.

Caldari militia is able to hold several enemy systems deep within enemy space and we are massively outnumbered by the Gallente in both pvp & farming toons (Most gallente players have 1-2 matar farming alts). Of course Gallente will now make the obligatory "Lies, we get blobbed all the time" post like they have done for the past years whenever someone dares to say the truth about the warzone.

The minmatard farming offensive is only 44h old but the gunless frigate swarm have already made 2 systems vulnerable. Another 10 systems is contested 70-90%. When those twelve systems are put into vulnerable state the gunless minmatards only need 21 more systems and they are currently contested at 18-70%.

In less than 2 days the minmatar militia is almost 2/3 on their way to T5 warzone control. That is a new record! Some claim this is because minmatar are are brave and well organized fighters. There are even rumors some of them fit guns on their ships. But it is also easy to see that the sheer number of gunless frigates is virtually unbeatable.

Superior numbers have always been an advantage in EVE. But this is not your ordinary blob. EVE has evolved and now the blob doesn't even need guns to win the war and warp core stabilizers are in high demand.

I like this.

In less than a single day, 20 systems has been plexed to 20-40% vulnerability suggesting a farming pace at the moment that would make enough systems vulnerable to hit T5 in one week - something the Amarr was no able to do in two months.

The minmatar is so strong they don't even need to fit guns to win the war.