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meowcat	Posted - 2005.01.17 13:47:00 - [1] Tech2 component prices have fallen drastically in the last few months, and we have seen a corresponding fall in the price of tech2 items (albeit proportionally less). The agent drop rates have apparently been increased, and now you can manufacture the components and buy the BPOs on the NPC market. This is a good thing. Unfortunately, we are about to see a repetition of the Tech2 price problems that occurred last year, and Morphite is the problem... It's only found in one ore, which is only found in 0.0 (afaik), and you need specialist mining skills to extract it. The market has already been cornered and prices have doubled in the last 2 weeks. The cost of morphite now represents 86% of the total build costs of my tech 2 BPO. This is 7 times the cost of the tech 2 components required. Morphite used to appear in small/trace quantities in normal roids. It should perhaps be put back. Fundamentally, the issue is this: There should be more than one source for all bottom-level building components, morphite included. ps: i am NOT a greedy tech 2 builder. I have 1 BPO, which i recieved 2 weeks ago. I have built 20 units for my own use, and made no isk whatsoever from tech 2 construction. Nor am i ever likely to (see above). ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
Psy Corp	Posted - 2005.01.17 13:59:00 - [2] Edited by: Psy Corp on 17/01/2005 13:59:01 Originally by: meowcat Tech2 component prices have fallen drastically in the last few months, and we have seen a corresponding fall in the price of tech2 items (albeit proportionally less). The agent drop rates have apparently been increased, and now you can manufacture the components and buy the BPOs on the NPC market. This is a good thing. Unfortunately, we are about to see a repetition of the Tech2 price problems that occurred last year, and Morphite is the problem... It's only found in one ore, which is only found in 0.0 (afaik), and you need specialist mining skills to extract it. The market has already been cornered and prices have doubled in the last 2 weeks. The cost of morphite now represents 86% of the total build costs of my tech 2 BPO. This is 7 times the cost of the tech 2 components required. Morphite used to appear in small/trace quantities in normal roids. It should perhaps be put back. Fundamentally, the issue is this: There should be more than one source for all bottom-level building components, morphite included. ps: i am NOT a greedy tech 2 builder. I have 1 BPO, which i recieved 2 weeks ago. I have built 20 units for my own use, and made no isk whatsoever from tech 2 construction. Nor am i ever likely to (see above). omg oh no nerf deep core mining, you can actually make money mining mercoxit nerf it again dammit nerf I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
Dajjal	Posted - 2005.01.17 14:08:00 - [3] i think meowcat is being a bit sly announce profits to be made from morphite - players start supplying it - price war ensues - meowcat makes his t2 stuff a lot cheaper sneaky bugger _______________________ E pluribus unum
Kai Lae	Posted - 2005.01.17 14:15:00 - [4] There are 2 issues here: 1. Morphite was recently the subject of an attempted (apparently successful) price fixing/monopolization scheme 2. Morphite is damn hard to mine. Specifically 2 if we could get some T2 DCM lasers it would help a lot. Even then the skill requirements and the exploding roid problem make it annoying to mine to say the least. I'm not sure about other regions but the only sectors where mexroxit ore is seen is in sectors where you also have ark. Ark is much easier to mine, gives a greater yield, and doesn't do annoying things like cause damage to your ship.
Shevar2	Posted - 2005.01.17 14:18:00 - [5] Originally by: meowcat Morphite used to appear in small/trace quantities in normal roids. It should perhaps be put back. Well considering the high ammount of skilltime involved before you can actually mine that stuff I would say it's good. People wont mine morphite if they can mine araknor/crock/bist for more profit and less skills. One of the mayor gripes from when DCM was released was that it was totally useless, now it's starting to get a bit more usefull. Not a bad thing at all in my book, even though i can't mine the stuff...
hired goon	Posted - 2005.01.17 14:30:00 - [6] Edited by: hired goon on 17/01/2005 14:30:34 Originally by: Kai Lae do annoying things like cause damage to your ship. Blah blah. All this time people have been hunting roids non-stop to near extinction, and the moment they start fighting back a little, it's whine whine whine! Ohnoes! I for one will be DEFENDING these roids when you bastards appear to slaughter them. And in return they will let me drink of their sparkly golden nipples, that I would once again be king of the tech 2 komponent. ------------ We come in peace. And tanks.
Siddy	Posted - 2005.01.17 14:32:00 - [7] if i remeber right - you get small amaunts of morphite from arknor... what whuld make mining mexorite useless due to small amaunt of morphite needet -------------------------------------------
Maderda Kuhal	Posted - 2005.01.17 14:40:00 - [8] I say make the bloody stuff even harder to find and mine. Put it all in one region so alliances can fight over it and kill each other off. Let the price rise five times higher than it is now. Then very few will be able to buy tech two and everyone will continue to buy my tech one stuff. Screw tech two or three or tech infinity. Have a nice day.
Snaps	Posted - 2005.01.17 15:30:00 - [9] i cant belive you guys are even making a real market with most t2 weapons since most players in the game cant even use them.
Borothis Quishir	Posted - 2005.01.17 15:34:00 - [10] That used to be true siddy ark no longer produces morphite. And if anyone here has mined the stuff its a pain in the arse. 3 hours to get maybe 1000 units and your lucky if it refines for 2k morphite in that three hours i could have made double that mining ark when prices were thru the floor on morphite. The fact that morphite is raising in price again is good it means the stockpiles of it have worn away from when ppl mined in in hidden belts rat free before they patched it. Another problem with mercoxite is the fact that its only in 0.0 and isnt as widespread as ark or bist. As for the t2 dcm lasers look on the market thier available as modulated dcm lasers 120m3 base for dcm mining plue they can be fitted with crystals for regular mining when the crystals become available

Kalsius Dakalsai	Posted - 2005.01.17 15:43:00 - [11] All i can say is YAY!! Specialised mining becomes profitable again.... "OMG i cant mine mercoxit in my IBIS with no skills and not make 10 gazillion ISK in an hour with my macros!!!!" Boooooohoooooooo the sooner they REDUCE T2 drops from Agents the sooner POS start getting profitable, specialised mining (ICE/DCM) becomes profitable and you'll see a healthier market. Roll on making it a mineral to have to work for and give good dividends at the end of it..... ------------------------------------------------ "Life is but a Dream on the road to the reality of Death.. Now is the time to wake up......" - Ryaekk K. Dakalsai Kalsius Dakalsai - General Operations Officer
Shifar	Posted - 2005.01.17 15:54:00 - [12] I'd mine it if I could find it, but after 1 year I've never seen a single roid. Perhaps spreading them out a little bit more would belp.
ArcticFox	Posted - 2005.01.17 16:37:00 - [13] I see huge drifts of mecoxit all the time that nobody touches because they're lazy. I even see people going around saying 'Yay! It's profitable to mine merc again!' and still not touching the giant drifts of merc. Bistot for teh win! ---------------------------------- "There's no +6 Sword of WTFPWN in Eve." - Er... Some person on the forum...
Wendat Huron	Posted - 2005.01.17 16:47:00 - [14] Pay me and I'll tell you where to find it.
Xthril Ranger	Posted - 2005.01.17 16:53:00 - [15] If get cheap tech 2 deep core miners availible or prices stay at 2 times the old one we would mine that instead of ark. My dominix can sustain like 160m3/min of mercx mining , but close to 900m3/min ark mining. (cant use harvesters on deep core mining and the cap use isnt sustainable in a dominix).
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2005.01.17 17:34:00 - [16] Originally by: Kai Lae There are 2 issues here: 1. Morphite was recently the subject of an attempted (apparently successful) price fixing/monopolization scheme Well, the growing stream of morphite from the North isn't subject to any such "As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade"
Niaski Zalani	Posted - 2005.01.17 18:16:00 - [17] Originally by: Siddy if i remeber right - you get small amaunts of morphite from arknor... what whuld make mining mexorite useless due to small amaunt of morphite needet Nope, only way to get morph is wby mining merc..no other way. Originally by: ArcticFox I see huge drifts of mecoxit all the time that nobody touches because they're lazy. I even see people going around saying 'Yay! It's profitable to mine merc again!' and still not touching the giant drifts of merc. You wouldn't be talking a ME would arctic? :P yarr?
DHU InMe	Posted - 2005.01.17 18:24:00 - [18] Originally by: Xthril Ranger If get cheap tech 2 deep core miners availible or prices stay at 2 times the old one we would mine that instead of ark. My dominix can sustain like 160m3/min of mercx mining , but close to 900m3/min ark mining. (cant use harvesters on deep core mining and the cap use isnt sustainable in a dominix). If morphite evaluated at 35000, it still paid more mining crok, bist or ark. Too lazy to show you the calculs. Nice links (updated 20 Dec 04): BP, bugs about them. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way.
Urlee Exit	Posted - 2005.01.17 18:37:00 - [19] Meowcat, if you stopped fighting a war that you never show up to fight unless there is only one of us on, then you could afford you Morph. OH NOES!!!!
Xavier Arron	Posted - 2005.01.17 19:16:00 - [20] Morphite is fine the way it is. More people may start mining it now as the price goes up and tech 2 DCM's come in.

meowcat	Posted - 2005.01.17 20:12:00 - [21] Originally by: Urlee Exit Meowcat, if you stopped fighting a war that you never show up to fight unless there is only one of us on, then you could afford you Morph. OH NOES!!!! clueless. ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
Tr4XX	Posted - 2005.01.17 20:26:00 - [22] Originally by: Psy Corp omg oh no nerf deep core mining, you can actually make money mining mercoxit nerf it again dammit nerf if u have nothing usefull to say please just zip it?
Jungle Jim	Posted - 2005.01.17 20:28:00 - [23] Originally by: Urlee Exit Meowcat, if you stopped fighting a war that you never show up to fight unless there is only one of us on, then you could afford you Morph. OH NOES!!!! You obviously have no clue at all do you. Nope none what so ever... P.S. For all others... there is a time difference problem. i.e. its 3am for most of us when they "All log in", Still we do try to be around... * Proud First Time Winner of the MLM Muppet Award *
Tr4XX	Posted - 2005.01.17 20:35:00 - [24] Edited by: Tr4XX on 17/01/2005 20:39:02 Edited by: Tr4XX on 17/01/2005 20:36:27 and they still seem to prefer the stations over space..
Nexz	Posted - 2005.01.17 22:32:00 - [25] Who was the dude in the kestrel again who locked Frans? He got owned by a shuttle . Just messing around m8, well the times that youre on/im on at the same time, i had some good fun (weekends!). Nexzeh _____________________________________________ I am Millennium
slothe	Posted - 2005.01.17 23:03:00 - [26] Edited by: slothe on 17/01/2005 23:15:44 Originally by: Urlee Exit Meowcat, if you stopped fighting a war that you never show up to fight unless there is only one of us on, then you could afford you Morph. OH NOES!!!! i have personally waited in your system on at least 3 different days in my trusty vexor with maybe one corp member in a frigate . i see between 4/8 of you in system, we wander around looking for you, realise your docked. wait.......wait......wait........wait.....wait some more.......oh look, you come out of station in a scorpion ferox blackbirds and caracals.....wow you guys are fun. heres a quote from last night , pleading for you to undock when you had at least 6 in the system, us being bored as usual.. --------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: (('solarsystemid2', 30003830),) Channel Name: Local Listener: slothe Session started: 2005.01.16 18:26:54 --------------------------------------------------------------- [ 2005.01.16 18:42:47 ] EVE System > Channel changed [ 2005.01.16 19:16:21 ] slothe > do you guys ever undock ? :/ [ 2005.01.16 19:16:28 ] slothe > theres only 3 of us [ 2005.01.16 19:16:31 ] slothe > no bs [ 2005.01.16 19:20:53 ] EVE System > Channel changed [ 2005.01.16 19:25:59 ] EVE System > Channel changed [ 2005.01.16 19:27:13 ] EVE System > Channel changed you can see we were in the system for over 30 minutes bored out of our tree, waiting mostly by your station. then we leave system and 5 minutes later your all gatecamping. dont give us any crap your the worst pirates weve fought so far. your just boring. GETTING BACK ON TOPIC what meowcat says is correct. why people are giving him grief shows the mentality of those people not the content of this post. and if the side effect of this thread is to increase demand, then thats probably whats intended and just shows market dynamics of supply and demand in action. Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" http://www.khainestar.com/eve
meowcat	Posted - 2005.01.17 23:21:00 - [27] Edited by: meowcat on 17/01/2005 23:23:40 mmm... with the money i save by choosing not to buy any morphite at over-inflated prices, i could sustain our war against wraiths reborn for about 2 years :-) there's a thought Lordmix and co were much more fun though ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
Neurotic Cat	Posted - 2005.01.18 00:49:00 - [28] "Kitty" here is the dark evil truth about tech 2 BPOs: many (most?) of them produce goods of limited value relative to the cost of production. The price of morphite doesn't have much to do with it. Either the demand is very high and you can wash out the building expenses with your profits -or- the BPO gathers dust in your hangar. Sadly most folks don't figure this out until they try to make money with tech 2 produciton. ps - go after the nasty rogue drones. They drop good minerals including morphite. Or find a system that has a good rogue drone population and put good buy orders on the market.
Captain Tinrib	Posted - 2005.01.18 11:10:00 - [29] WTS 5K morphite Kill List
Arthur Guinness	Posted - 2005.01.18 11:50:00 - [30] I think if the yield would be increased a bit, there'd be more going on the market. as it is now it'll always be twice as profitable to mine other stuff, or at least was last time i cared about roids.

Einheriar Ulrich	Posted - 2005.01.18 12:47:00 - [31] WTS : 200k Morphite So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar. **Minion Of VOTF**
Oveur	Posted - 2005.01.18 14:05:00 - [32] OMGHI2U Morphite, Merc and DCM is not going to change. This is how it's meant to be and the market will adjust accordingly. Big profits in DCM? More people do DCM. Have a nice day! _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
David Corbett	Posted - 2005.01.18 14:15:00 - [33] There's plenty in Morphite in 0.0 for the patient ones who want to look. And, with the new lasers, mining it is actually worth your time, rather than the easier to find/easier to mine Bistot, Arkonor, and Crokite.
Loka	Posted - 2005.01.18 14:24:00 - [34] Yes Bistot and Crokite is easier to mine. But whil xx player harvest the crokite and Bistot, you can mine alone the Morphite. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Viceroy	Posted - 2005.01.18 15:00:00 - [35] Originally by: Oveur OMGHI2U Morphite, Merc and DCM is not going to change. This is how it's meant to be and the market will adjust accordingly. Big profits in DCM? More people do DCM. Have a nice day! wintbh -
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2005.01.18 15:14:00 - [36] That's it, no more FPS' for Oveur, pull the plug and cancel his account on 1337h4xY2ballz and maybe he can be brought back. Convert Stations
Fuse	Posted - 2005.01.18 15:35:00 - [37] Originally by: Oveur OMGHI2U Morphite, Merc and DCM is not going to change. This is how it's meant to be and the market will adjust accordingly. Big profits in DCM? More people do DCM. Have a nice day! Thanks for the laugh there is hope for you yet. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you.
Stront3h	Posted - 2005.01.18 15:38:00 - [38] Originally by: Viceroy Originally by: Oveur OMGHI2U Morphite, Merc and DCM is not going to change. This is how it's meant to be and the market will adjust accordingly. Big profits in DCM? More people do DCM. Have a nice day! wintbh Damn beat me to it!
Tr4XX	Posted - 2005.01.18 18:38:00 - [39] and stop deleting my posts!
meowcat	Posted - 2005.01.18 20:54:00 - [40] Originally by: Oveur OMGHI2U Morphite, Merc and DCM is not going to change. This is how it's meant to be and the market will adjust accordingly. Big profits in DCM? More people do DCM. Have a nice day! 10 points for directness. It will suck until the existing stuff on the market (some of which is now at or below cost) is cleared. ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but

Leitari	Posted - 2005.01.18 21:36:00 - [41] Originally by: Oveur OMGHI2U Morphite, Merc and DCM is not going to change. This is how it's meant to be and the market will adjust accordingly. Big profits in DCM? More people do DCM. Have a nice day! carebear pwnage !!!!!!! Here, Only the silent survive.
SithEwok	Posted - 2005.01.20 02:32:00 - [42] i just sold all of mine from when it used to be extracted from ark :) woopiee!
Shatza	Posted - 2005.01.20 04:12:00 - [43] Originally by: Oveur OMGHI2U Morphite, Merc and DCM is not going to change. This is how it's meant to be and the market will adjust accordingly. Big profits in DCM? More people do DCM. Have a nice day! HAHA PWNED but the EBil GM
Ticondrius	Posted - 2005.01.20 04:13:00 - [44] Um..Sha... Oveur = DEV, not GM "If I'm brutally honest and it offends you, that's not my fault." (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Shatza	Posted - 2005.01.20 04:14:00 - [45] Originally by: Shatza Originally by: Oveur OMGHI2U Morphite, Merc and DCM is not going to change. This is how it's meant to be and the market will adjust accordingly. Big profits in DCM? More people do DCM. Have a nice day! HAHA PWNED but the EBil GM errr... DEV
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2005.01.20 04:42:00 - [46] btw, you know all that morphite that people dumped on the market for 4k-5k a unit back when it came in trace amounts from ark and bist? wondering who bought it all up and where it went? /me watches the price rise, then glances at his morphite mountain smart investments pay off nubjes _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2005.01.20 06:15:00 - [47] They do? What about all my drugs. Convert Stations
Cracken	Posted - 2005.01.20 06:28:00 - [48] The thing is 1 of the only reasons most agent runners can afford tech 2 is the isk they get from the component sales allows them too give it a shot.
Selim	Posted - 2005.01.20 06:56:00 - [49] Originally by: DigitalCommunist btw, you know all that morphite that people dumped on the market for 4k-5k a unit back when it came in trace amounts from ark and bist? wondering who bought it all up and where it went? /me watches the price rise, then glances at his morphite mountain smart investments pay off nubjes I remember you and Faramir talked about that during the Jove body part bonanza in the Gallente channel... you still haven't sold?
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2005.01.20 06:58:00 - [50] nope 120k morph 1mil mega lol _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf

Siddy	Posted - 2005.01.20 07:21:00 - [51] omg millenium corp look like muppets... There is so much morphite floating araund the belts virtualy EVERYVERE, i lost trak countting if T2 stuff building is going to take a new heights, i think the prices will fall -------------------------------------------
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.01.20 07:42:00 - [52] Originally by: *****en The thing is 1 of the only reasons most agent runners can afford tech 2 is the isk they get from the component sales allows them too give it a shot. Riiiiiiiight. Comp rewards make up 1/6 of my Isk from lvl 4 missions. One mission will give me enough in bounties to buy around two T2 modules (which are only 1-2 mil for most modules). The most I have ever made from comps was 20 million Isk, which wont quite get me a cap recharger II. Mind you to get that 20 million worth of comps I got about 100 million from mission bounties. --------------------------------------------------
Luc Boye	Posted - 2005.01.20 10:59:00 - [53] I tried extorting a merc roid, but it told me to go fck myself Check my sig for proof! -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2005.01.20 11:03:00 - [54] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 20/01/2005 11:16:12 Miners will stop mining ice park their barges and go use their DCM skills finally, prices will drop within a few weeks. Now can you do something about the drugs so I can cash in on my investment? Convert Stations
meowcat	Posted - 2005.01.20 11:30:00 - [55] Originally by: Siddy omg millenium corp look like muppets... There is so much morphite floating araund the belts virtualy EVERYVERE, i lost trak countting if T2 stuff building is going to take a new heights, i think the prices will fall (1) this is nothing to do with MLM. I am not a representative of the corp, just posting my opinion as a part-time n00b T2 builder. (2) pls tell me where i said there was 2 shortage of morhpite. There's plenty of it about, just at ridiculous prices. If you are implying that if i were to mine it myself it would become 'cheaper', well then i'd have to get into the whole opportunity cost argument, which is extremely tiresome. ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
meowcat	Posted - 2005.01.20 11:34:00 - [56] Originally by: *****en The thing is 1 of the only reasons most agent runners can afford tech 2 is the isk they get from the component sales allows them too give it a shot. For my BPO: Total cost of Tech2 Components = 40k or less Total Cost of Morphite = 490k Morhphite doesn't come from agents (afaik) ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
DedGuy	Posted - 2005.01.20 14:32:00 - [57] Originally by: DigitalCommunist btw, you know all that morphite that people dumped on the market for 4k-5k a unit back when it came in trace amounts from ark and bist? wondering who bought it all up and where it went? /me watches the price rise, then glances at his morphite mountain smart investments pay off nubjes Made 500 600m or so off that myself. Sold it when it was down at 25k though. Figured Exodus would reduce price due to increased availibility. Dammit. /me slaps meowcat Rumors of my clones death are greatly exaggerated. But I am still INACTIVE Millennium Elder
Princess Sela	Posted - 2005.01.20 14:50:00 - [58] Edited by: Princess Sela on 20/01/2005 16:21:08 Edited by: Princess Sela on 20/01/2005 14:52:36 Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 17/01/2005 23:15:44 --------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: (('solarsystemid2', 30003830),) Channel Name: Local Listener: slothe Session started: 2005.01.16 18:26:54 --------------------------------------------------------------- [ 2005.01.16 18:42:47 ] EVE System > Channel changed [ 2005.01.16 19:16:21 ] slothe > do you guys ever undock ? :/ [ 2005.01.16 19:16:28 ] slothe > theres only 3 of us [ 2005.01.16 19:16:31 ] slothe > no bs [ 2005.01.16 19:20:53 ] EVE System > Channel changed [ 2005.01.16 19:25:59 ] EVE System > Channel changed [ 2005.01.16 19:27:13 ] EVE System > Channel changed Wait, your posting a conversation you had with yourself to show what? that we were AFK? Does that even make sense? Not to me....Just for kicks, I am going to log my character on today @ lunch! HA HA, you guys can camp the station there waiting for her to undock, while I am at work. Oh yeah I have seen some of the cargo containers you guys left behind in 0.0 while trying to come and "find" us. You really should come out here and get the Merc on your own as opposed to those inflated prices you find on the market (ps - I hope you lost some good ships along the way) Oh and keep the war going, it's not costing us a thing, aside from the few times we decide to kill another one of your retarted alts with a frig. sucicide. We kinda find this funny. You guys are obviously a building corp taking time out of your day to camp a station full of people who are afk. This means you are taking time away from mining/buiding/agent missions just to talk in local to people that are not even there, costing you even more money! HA, we love it! EDITED - I would also like to add the following.... your channel shows you sitting in local for 30 min prior to talking? Where were you, did you not see these guys in the system or did you wait to talk until after they docked/logged off/ or just went afk? BUSTED
Selim	Posted - 2005.01.20 15:07:00 - [59] I was poor back then, spent the 30m I had on morph because I love taking investment advice from strangers and waited a bit. I bought it at 7k and sold it at 15k. /me trains Patience lvl 1
Zzazzt	Posted - 2005.01.20 20:41:00 - [60] Edited by: Zzazzt on 20/01/2005 20:48:52 Originally by: Princess Sela Oh and keep the war going, it's not costing us a thing, aside from the few times we decide to kill another one of your retarted alts with a frig. sucicide. So - you're sufficiently at keys enough to undock & lose your ships to sentires as you kill a n00b scout, but mysteriously afk when a warring corp turns out? Hmmmm - you're right - clear case of suicide. Originally by: Princess Sela We kinda find this funny. You guys are obviously a building corp taking time out of your day to camp a station full of people who are afk. This means you are taking time away from mining/buiding/agent missions just to talk in local to people that are not even there, costing you even more money! We find it kinda funny that you ebil badass "Ironxsinnerman> lol we are ranked 12th out of all the PvP corps in Eve" pirates won't come out to slaughter us uppity production types even at the weekend. Would you like to buy some modules? Originally by: Princess Sela I would also like to add the following.... your channel shows you sitting in local for 30 min prior to talking? Where were you, did you not see these guys in the system or did you wait to talk until after they docked/logged off/ or just went afk? BUSTED This is too good. It shows that your 5 (2 BS 2 cruiser 1 unknown (shows capsule on the killmail)) wouldn't engage our 3 (no BS) despite being at keys and having backup in system... BUSTED Have a nice day. EDIT: noticed the 5th participant in the raven gankmail ____________________________________________ MLM: Gentlemen at Play

Zzazzt	Posted - 2005.01.20 21:06:00 - [61] Originally by: Princess Sela Wait, your posting a conversation you had with yourself to show what? that we were AFK? Does that even make sense? Not to me....Just for kicks, I am going to log my character on today @ lunch! HA HA, you guys can camp the station there waiting for her to undock, while I am at work. Just for kicks, let's have a rough look at your beloved killboard, shall we? Xmas week: 27 posted kills (oh well, even l33t pvpers need holidays) Following week: 52 posted kills (presumably back to normal) Millennium declares war First week of war: 36 posted kills This week: 12 posted kills So a production corp decs you, and you suddenly don't wanna play? ____________________________________________ MLM: Gentlemen at Play
meowcat	Posted - 2005.01.20 21:16:00 - [62] maybe we should wardec your mining and production corp? Iron Brigade looks like it's busier than usual atm ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
Princess Sela	Posted - 2005.01.20 21:49:00 - [63] Edited by: Princess Sela on 20/01/2005 21:51:33 Originally by: Zzazzt So - you're sufficiently at keys enough to undock & lose your ships to sentires as you kill a n00b scout, but mysteriously afk when a warring corp turns out? Hmmmm - you're right - clear case of suicide. um that is odd isn't it, so is not talking in local for 30 min only to leave 10 min after you talk smack...how very odd. Originally by: Zzazzt We find it kinda funny that you ebil badass "Ironxsinnerman> lol we are ranked 12th out of all the PvP corps in Eve" pirates won't come out to slaughter us uppity production types even at the weekend. Would you like to buy some modules? We are always on the lookout for good prices, most of our sec ratings keep us from buying from you but we like to make our own. If we need some and your prices are good, there is a chance we would buy from you. We don't hold grudges! Originally by: Zzazzt This is too good. It shows that your 5 (2 BS 2 cruiser 1 unknown (shows capsule on the killmail)) wouldn't engage our 3 (no BS) despite being at keys and having backup in system... BUSTED Have a nice day. EDIT: noticed the 5th participant in the raven gankmail Yes sadly that is the frigate we like to waste to lock down those at the gate, just for fun! Everyone likes to see someone blow up! We let those we kill see atleast some success, as you have found with our sucicide alt killing frigs! Actually it shows to me that your strangely away from any fight we partake in. As you can see we were in the system, no doubt gate camping and yet you ask us were we are, 30 mins after you arrive, try searching for us instead of sitting ontop af the stacmon gate and running away if you see someone.....please!
Princess Sela	Posted - 2005.01.20 21:53:00 - [64] Originally by: Zzazzt Originally by: Princess Sela Wait, your posting a conversation you had with yourself to show what? that we were AFK? Does that even make sense? Not to me....Just for kicks, I am going to log my character on today @ lunch! HA HA, you guys can camp the station there waiting for her to undock, while I am at work. Just for kicks, let's have a rough look at your beloved killboard, shall we? Xmas week: 27 posted kills (oh well, even l33t pvpers need holidays) Following week: 52 posted kills (presumably back to normal) Millennium declares war First week of war: 36 posted kills This week: 12 posted kills So a production corp decs you, and you suddenly don't wanna play? Shhhh! We moved systems.... Pirates need money too! We are on to bigger and better things.
Princess Sela	Posted - 2005.01.20 21:54:00 - [65] Originally by: meowcat maybe we should wardec your mining and production corp? Iron Brigade looks like it's busier than usual atm Sadly they are....we need to get whips on them to do anything these days. Actually it looks less busy to me, since most of the guys left that corp within the last week....odd, maybe you haven't noticed the member count recently...
Capt Ketamine	Posted - 2005.01.20 22:45:00 - [66] Wow your so sexy when you talk horse manure will you have my children??? "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made alot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move" Douglas Adams
meowcat	Posted - 2005.01.20 23:01:00 - [67] mods pls lock was supposed to be about morphite, and i've had a clear dev reply so it's run it's course wraiths are clearly under the influence of halucinogens ~~~~)\~~~~~\o/~~~~ yeah but no but yeah but no but
Abdalion	Posted - 2005.01.20 23:25:00 - [68] Locked at the request of the original poster. Clickity click click. -- I ♥ You.... Stolen from Eris®


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