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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.01.18 16:45:00 -
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im going to spend about 300E for a new GC, and i would like to know if there is a far on top one for eve.
im also intersted in using 2 monitors, 2accs for each monitor, if poss, and maybe some1 knows if the money allows it
thx for response ;)
greetz
rex
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.01.19 16:03:00 -
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Geforce 6800 standard is my choice.
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spiritfa11
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Posted - 2005.01.25 19:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
im going to spend about 300E for a new GC, and i would like to know if there is a far on top one for eve.
im also intersted in using 2 monitors, 2accs for each monitor, if poss, and maybe some1 knows if the money allows it
thx for response ;)
greetz
rex
burned out my 9800 pro running 2 accounts on two monitors.. just be careful doing it.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.01.26 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: spiritfa11
burned out my 9800 pro running 2 accounts on two monitors.. just be careful doing it.
That must have been a really bad cooling solution somewhere then  Either that or a good one that got clogged with dust. Multiple eve clients does push your hardware to the limit, but if it's operating within manufacturers spec, it shouldn't get damaged. Of course, it will show up problems that may not have been noticable in other situations. And it's always advisible to check your computer has sufficient ventilation, and is reletively clean inside.
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
im also intersted in using 2 monitors, 2accs for each monitor, if poss, and maybe some1 knows if the money allows it
Am I reading you right in thinking you want to use 2 monitors, with 2 accounts on each monitor, making for a total of 4 accounts running at once? If that's what you're aiming for, you're going to have bigger problems than your graphics card. Even the fastest processors are going to struggle running 4 clients at once, and you'll probably need 1.5 to 2GB RAM to keep from swapping constantly - so a machine that stands a chance of doing this playably isn't going to be cheap - it would probably be cheaper to buy two lesser computers and run 2 clients on each.
Of course, if you just want to use 2 clients, one on each monitor, then any mainstream card in your budget should handle it these days. Dual-client eve is far more likely to be CPU-limited than graphics card limited.
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Caillech
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Posted - 2005.02.09 16:28:00 -
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i went for Geforce GT6600, cause i didnt want to play double the price for a 6800 ... but it works soo nice and sweet....yey!
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Caldorous
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Posted - 2005.02.10 16:35:00 -
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eve is faar more old that those graphic cards, it should run well without them
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Anguz
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Posted - 2005.02.11 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
im going to spend about 300E for a new GC, and i would like to know if there is a far on top one for eve.
im also intersted in using 2 monitors, 2accs for each monitor, if poss, and maybe some1 knows if the money allows it
thx for response ;)
greetz
rex
ATI all the way, I suggest the Radeon 9xxx series or the new X series :)
Using R9700 myself, have no fps drop anywhere, neither in complexes.
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Cinnander
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Posted - 2005.02.11 12:53:00 -
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Guess that depends on the complex, would be interested to know what level it was and how many mobs were left.
With a Tyan Modified Radeon 9600 Pro (clock 400/600) In a 10/10 complex I had like 8fps :D
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spiritfa11
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Posted - 2005.02.11 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew
Originally by: spiritfa11
burned out my 9800 pro running 2 accounts on two monitors.. just be careful doing it.
That must have been a really bad cooling solution somewhere then Either that or a good one that got clogged with dust. Multiple eve clients does push your hardware to the limit, but if it's operating within manufacturers spec, it shouldn't get damaged. Of course, it will show up problems that may not have been noticable in other situations. And it's always advisible to check your computer has sufficient ventilation, and is reletively clean inside.
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
im also intersted in using 2 monitors, 2accs for each monitor, if poss, and maybe some1 knows if the money allows it
Am I reading you right in thinking you want to use 2 monitors, with 2 accounts on each monitor, making for a total of 4 accounts running at once? If that's what you're aiming for, you're going to have bigger problems than your graphics card. Even the fastest processors are going to struggle running 4 clients at once, and you'll probably need 1.5 to 2GB RAM to keep from swapping constantly - so a machine that stands a chance of doing this playably isn't going to be cheap - it would probably be cheaper to buy two lesser computers and run 2 clients on each.
Of course, if you just want to use 2 clients, one on each monitor, then any mainstream card in your budget should handle it these days. Dual-client eve is far more likely to be CPU-limited than graphics card limited.
oops sorry totally forgot i ever posted here so i never followed up on this thread. to answer your question I was running 2 accounts on 1 computer with two monitors. 1 account per monitor. I had always noticed by 9800 running hotter than i thought normal from day 1 but i always put off looking into it. It is very likely i got a defective card out of the box but it got the job done and it just didnt seem like a big problem.
bottom line, no permanent damage done and ive got a 6800 that works wonders now. =)
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Kaylona Tso
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Posted - 2005.02.11 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
Geforce 6800 standard is my choice.
Tis what I use but there is a lighting bug on all GF cards that is in the drivers, ATI doesn't have that particular bug. Example, when mining and in nebulas... the lighting will flash.
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.02.14 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Cinnander
Guess that depends on the complex, would be interested to know what level it was and how many mobs were left.
With a Tyan Modified Radeon 9600 Pro (clock 400/600) In a 10/10 complex I had like 8fps :D
Eve seems to be far more CPU limited than GPU limited most of the time - probably why people see such varied results when comparing fps on various graphics cards.
If running eve currently slaps your CPU hard against the 100% mark, then you won't get any more speed by upgrading your graphics card. From what I've seen, only rigs with the latest processors will need the newer graphics cards to keep eve going full-speed.
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Seth Killbain
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Posted - 2005.02.14 15:21:00 -
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My X800 pro does nicely in eve, but never tried two monitors :S
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Ninketsu
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Posted - 2005.02.15 22:25:00 -
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Had a radeon 9800pro but it got burned whem I did some overclock on it, was working fine, will get a new one so I am not complaining.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.02.16 19:40:00 -
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EVE is very CPU bound--anything TI4200 or better will run EVE perfectly. And a TI4200 costs 20 bucks. A 9800 Pro will run everything maxed on an FX-55 with top AA/AF with no graphics card bottleneck. But the best values ATM are the 6800 regular and 6800GT.
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Posted - 2005.02.17 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: OVERCOPES 1 on 17/02/2005 01:42:04
/emotes laughs at the nivida crowd.
err for no reason really,strokes my new x800xt pe
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Hayzo
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Posted - 2005.02.17 19:19:00 -
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Radeon X 800XT all the way. For any game. Ever.
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Cmdr Patrick
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Posted - 2005.02.20 01:16:00 -
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Nvidea 4tw the 6800gt dual sli 939 set up will r0x any game adn rips ati a new a$$ hole.
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.02.21 13:07:00 -
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i use an nVidia Geforce FX 5600, and it works perfectly...
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JarmenKell
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Posted - 2005.02.21 13:49:00 -
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Edited by: JarmenKell on 21/02/2005 13:53:14
got here 2x MSI 128MB nVidia Geforce 6600GT PCI-Express 16X graphics card working together.
monitor on 1600x1200 resolution 19"
its better performance that the 6800 ultra on doom3.
amd at a cheaper cost of ú112.71 inc each., could be more at your retailer.
you vchoose 300+ for 6800 or ú240 for 2X 6600gt's
but yeah if you only run eve you really don t need this.
one 256mb 6600gt will do the job great really.that alone will run doom 3 at 50 fps on average at high resolution.
Ati are good perfprmers but get dwarfed by Nvidia when it comes to high resolution.
dont know who so don t ask.
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fhsfdhgs
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Posted - 2005.03.02 18:00:00 -
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The ATI X series just flat out smokes anything on the market now. No wonder Microsoft gave Nvidia the boot to the a$$ and choose ATI to supply cards based on the X series for the Xbox 2. Not to mention MS is adding extra funtionality to Longhorn (next version of Windows)for computers using ATI cards.
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Laurela Mangers
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Posted - 2005.03.02 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: fhsfdhgs
The ATI X series just flat out smokes anything on the market now. No wonder Microsoft gave Nvidia the boot to the a$$ and choose ATI to supply cards based on the X series for the Xbox 2. Not to mention MS is adding extra funtionality to Longhorn (next version of Windows)for computers using ATI cards.
I don't know were you pulled this BS from, nVidia's 6x00 series is far more technologicaly advanced in terms of Archietecture, it fully supports Dx9.0c including shader 3.0 ATI does not. Ati however did offer the better card at the time of designing the Xbox NEXT's guts.
the x800 is NOTHING but a beefed up 9800core, yes the core is quite nice, but it's still 2-3 year old design. and is behind for the future.
It's similar to the AMD64 vs. P4 presscott, in the 3200+ and 3.2 ghz sets the performed basicaly the same, but now at 4000+ and 3.7ghz the AMD has a very nice performance advantage. the reason is AMD has new systems, 64bit and a spectacular architecture, wereas the p4 presscott(even the 64bit/1033mhz FSB stuff) is still based upon the netburst core that the old p4 northwoords used.
If anything ATM the nvidia cards will offer much better performance with the fully accelerated longhorn UI that will make use of DX10.
I run eve with a 6800GT using dual monitors, I only run one client but there is no precivable slowdown when running things on the other side.
But Eve isn't a vidcard intensive game past a point. the CPU draw is much higher than even the Source Engine or Doom 3 on highest settins with my computer.
As far as recomendations with the current cards it's more a a matter of brand loyalty if your talking flagship cards (6800/x800) but if you go midrange(6600/x600) or lower the nVidia cards hold the edge. The 6600 has the never been seen before awsomeness of being as good or better than the previous models flagships.
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.03.12 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew
Originally by: spiritfa11
burned out my 9800 pro running 2 accounts on two monitors.. just be careful doing it.
That must have been a really bad cooling solution somewhere then Either that or a good one that got clogged with dust. Multiple eve clients does push your hardware to the limit, but if it's operating within manufacturers spec, it shouldn't get damaged. Of course, it will show up problems that may not have been noticable in other situations. And it's always advisible to check your computer has sufficient ventilation, and is reletively clean inside.
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
im also intersted in using 2 monitors, 2accs for each monitor, if poss, and maybe some1 knows if the money allows it
Am I reading you right in thinking you want to use 2 monitors, with 2 accounts on each monitor, making for a total of 4 accounts running at once? If that's what you're aiming for, you're going to have bigger problems than your graphics card. Even the fastest processors are going to struggle running 4 clients at once, and you'll probably need 1.5 to 2GB RAM to keep from swapping constantly - so a machine that stands a chance of doing this playably isn't going to be cheap - it would probably be cheaper to buy two lesser computers and run 2 clients on each.
Of course, if you just want to use 2 clients, one on each monitor, then any mainstream card in your budget should handle it these days. Dual-client eve is far more likely to be CPU-limited than graphics card limited.
actualy running 4 clints isent relly a problum well fo me it isent and im using ATI 9700
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.03.12 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Seth Killbain
My X800 pro does nicely in eve, but never tried two monitors :S
hehe i would like to know when the ATI X850 is comming out to buy officialy
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Daniel Jackson
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Posted - 2005.03.12 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: fhsfdhgs
The ATI X series just flat out smokes anything on the market now. No wonder Microsoft gave Nvidia the boot to the a$$ and choose ATI to supply cards based on the X series for the Xbox 2. Not to mention MS is adding extra funtionality to Longhorn (next version of Windows)for computers using ATI cards.
ya ATI FTW! Iam a ATI Supporter well not officialy but i want ATI to beat all the grafix cards and by the looks of it the x seres is gonna do just that
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Kaalise
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Posted - 2005.03.18 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Laurela Mangers
It's similar to the AMD64 vs. P4 presscott, in the 3200+ and 3.2 ghz sets the performed basicaly the same, but now at 4000+ and 3.7ghz the AMD has a very nice performance advantage. the reason is AMD has new systems, 64bit and a spectacular architecture, wereas the p4 presscott(even the 64bit/1033mhz FSB stuff) is still based upon the netburst core that the old p4 northwoords used.
Where did you pull that BS from? The 64bit - 1033fsb Intels aren't Prescotts, they're Galatin cores.
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ghettosmurf
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Posted - 2005.03.20 06:25:00 -
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I can't comment on recent offerings, but my Geforce4 Ti4400 works quite well. I have been able to run two eve accounts, a tv tuner, two movies, and UT2004 at the same time with all of them being happy on either monitor. I am extremely happy with how solid my 4400 is. My next card will most likely be an nvidia.
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Domatavus Fallatus
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Posted - 2005.03.22 17:32:00 -
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def. nvidia for best price - performance rating
for pure performance some ati ultra deluxe version which would be so expensive, i could buy a whole pc with a good solid geforce gc.
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Kintac
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Posted - 2005.03.24 12:25:00 -
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Hi,
there shopuld be a kind of database, including all cards and their performance within eve-online.
I¦d be interested, whether a NVIDIA FX5200 would be enough for running EVE with 1280x1024 with all graphic features enabled ?
I know the FX5200 is crap considering its performance at all, but is it enough for playiung eve ?
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Manyara
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Posted - 2005.03.25 09:24:00 -
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I run a 5200 128mb. It does the job, but you may find that to maintain 30+ fps some graphics features have to be disabled. Turning off Trails helps no end, esp in combat. and have a fiddle with the advanced graphics settings (obtainable by tweaking the preferences ini file, there's a post about it somewhere in workarounds) that helps.
I'm an oldskool gamer though, so prefer fps over pretty looks.
Maybe look at a 5600, they run dual logs with ease.
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Tar om
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Posted - 2005.03.30 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: Tar om on 30/03/2005 18:32:37
Nvidea 6800 Mobile. 12 Pipeline, 256MB. Gets 90 FPS average outside a station on a P4M 2.2Ghz (533 FSB)with 512Mb RAM. 1920x1200x32 Everything on (fullscreen)
Utterly smokes my destop which has P4 3.4 with 2Gb DDR400 - and a 9800XT 256Mb. It gets about 30FPS. 1600x1200 Fullscreen, everything on.
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