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KagehiK
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Posted - 2010.12.30 04:21:00 -
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Moments of clarity.. Never had one. Or, more accurately, I have them all the time? Since I was in like 8th grade, at least, probably earlier, but this was when I first tried to program a computer. I have always "seen" how things connect together. On some level, with computers, you *must*, and doing so *requires* knowledge. Knowledge of how you think, how others think, how, and even what, a computer can be made to think, etc. If anything, age has probably robbed me of some of that clarity, calcifying some expectations. But, even with religion, I could see the connections between them, how they borrowed from each other, where they failed to address key points in their explanations, where other explanations made more sense than the ones given, and more to the point, how this lead to failure for those that tried to follow them, and failure for those that didn't, often due to inference by those that did.
This kind of gives me a bit of a buffer, I think. Its hard to be greatly depressed when the world continues to live up to your low expectations of your own, and everyone else's, grasp of what is really going on. If I was going to lose it over something so trivial, it would have been when I was about six. Better to strive for a clearer picture, in hope that knowing how things connect better, you can find the right piece to nudge, so that maybe someone doesn't make that mistake you see looming otherwise.
No, moments of clarity are only madness if you think everything else is "normal", and as it should be, to start with. Then, such discoveries become profoundly disturbing, since they pull the rug from under the feet of what you *thought* the real world looked like. ;) Knowing that you tread on quick sand, to start with, lets you find the relatively stable ground between, and not be overly surprised when you misstep.
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Alana Kel
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Posted - 2010.12.30 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas Edited by: CCP Abraxas on 29/12/2010 02:46:56 For those who wonder: It's not a cliffhanger. This is probably the most final ending I've ever written. Shayna nailed it one post further up, and the only thing I'd add is that at the very end it's basically become a metatext.
CCP Abraxas:
As someone who's seen that kind of madness, who's experienced it, who's lived it...
...thank you. All your writing speaks to me in a really odd way, kind of a continuous metatext in and of itself. I didn't really get why until I did not read The Book of Emptiness. I knew the answer all along.
So, I'll just end this by saying something rather obvious; you understand EVE. At least, you understand the basic underlying thema.
The Burning Life - Conflict. Black Mountain - Such a good metaphor. The Book of Emptiness - Acceptance and transcendence.
In no particular order, it makes sense, stripped of context. I'm glad you found your end, though I hope this is not the end.
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Grikath
T.E.L.O.G.S. Mostly Clueless
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Posted - 2010.12.30 11:19:00 -
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The chronicles need never end... There's plenty fine minds that write EVE-based fiction, and the gems can be... elevated... into the background library that the chronicles are. Something to aspire to for some?
This is just the end of a chapter, and in true EVE style it is up to the players to build where the Devs laid the bare framework after the page has turned to reveal the pristine whiteness of the blank page, awaiting those who dare to paint their minds' eye visions onto the bare canvas.
Meanwhile I'm quite sure Abraxas took a poor troll out of his cold cell on the ending :P Well done sir.
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Nie'eine Hier
NieCo Group
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Posted - 2010.12.30 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Nie''eine Hier on 30/12/2010 15:44:24 Don't end the bloodstream of our dreams, please .
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.12.30 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Carbonatite I've enjoyed the Chronicles. Is there no way for other CCP employees or players/ISDs to continue adding to them? Maybe some kind of submission process that would go like (Player/ISD submission)-->(Vetting by higher ISD)-->(Review by Abraxas or other CCP Employee)-->(Posting if worthwhile), with all the necessary waivers and other BS, could be an interesting option.
There used to be. I'm the guy who wrote the chrons titled Doppelganger, Titans, Vampire and The Outcast. I'm fairly sure one of my corpmates wrote one or two others.
You could also try submitting chrons to E-ON Magazine.
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Anyura
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Posted - 2010.12.31 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: Doctor Carbonatite I've enjoyed the Chronicles. Is there no way for other CCP employees or players/ISDs to continue adding to them? Maybe some kind of submission process that would go like (Player/ISD submission)-->(Vetting by higher ISD)-->(Review by Abraxas or other CCP Employee)-->(Posting if worthwhile), with all the necessary waivers and other BS, could be an interesting option.
There used to be. I'm the guy who wrote the chrons titled Doppelganger, Titans, Vampire and The Outcast. I'm fairly sure one of my corpmates wrote one or two others.
You could also try submitting chrons to E-ON Magazine.
Oh really? I liked the "Titans" one.
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Tiberius Amzadee
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.01.02 04:43:00 -
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I almost got lost near the ending myself. It was like going down a slide,I kept reading faster and faster then suddenly I'm in the air. I thought about the past chronicles all the way up to this last one and now feel strangely empty but free.
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CCP Abraxas
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Posted - 2011.01.02 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tiberius Amzadee I thought about the past chronicles all the way up to this last one and now feel strangely empty but free.
Yeah, you and me both, man.
... hey, wait a minute ...
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Dhamon Myncar
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.01.05 19:32:00 -
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I never got the sense that skar was necessarily the religious type. In fact, i think it says that he did so only as a matter of course (being an accepted member of amarrian society etc). So to have his religious "rug pulled out from under him" by reading undeniable truths about said religion doesn't seem to me like it would shatter his self awareness to the point of unconsciousness or hyperconsciousness or death, depending on how you read it. Now im not saying he wasn't on the verge of becoming a babbling lunatic anyway, just seems incongruent w my impressions of the character even in the short time we knew him. Unless the implication that the book o' emptiness has some kind of special power other than the concrete but ephemeral, white but black, hot but cold truth. Good read, always enjoy the stories no matter how much they make me think.
As an aside, wasn't skar a character from a previous chron? Tho my terrible memory isnt what it used to be... |
mattig89ch1
Caldari Caeye Assault Technologies
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Posted - 2011.01.12 02:31:00 -
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I have to admit, I'm sad to see these chronicles end. they always put eve into context.
anyone know why they are ending? __________________________________________________ HK-47: "Can I kill him master? I would very much like to break his neck, just a little, its been a long time fantasy of mine." |
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Griffolion
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.01.27 13:36:00 -
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I didn't get it :(
The chrons are ending :(
DOUBLE SADNESS.
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Miss Connolly
Public Relations Corp
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Posted - 2011.02.02 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rytha Main
This can't be the end. The Chronicles were one of the defining characteristics of EVE. No other MMO to my knowledge has such a universe so vast, so original, and so organic as this game, and to take one of it's pillars away as a regular occurrence is a bit disappointing. I admit, not all of them were "my cup of tea", but I read them regardless. Despite this however, the overall concepts, themes, quality of writing and story is outstanding. I for one would like them to continue on a regular basis
I totally agree with this post. After taking one of my many EVE breaks I'd often drop by the homepage and read the chronicles and would often be grabbed by a sudden wish to come back to EVE after reading a few of them. They gave the game a depth and feeling of a living world that I really don't want to miss.
Without this kind of rich back story EVE would only be a simple "laser beams and missiles" sort of game and wouldn't be half as motivating/enticing.
I hope CCP is aware of this and will revive the chronicles ASAP. ___________________ "It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features."
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Bobaflex Doomwalker
Gallente Conclave United
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Posted - 2011.02.10 23:55:00 -
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It's a shame to see the chronicles go on this hiatus. But it was an interesting way to go. Well done.
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Sean Mc
Legio Invicta Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2011.02.18 14:03:00 -
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Really enjoyed this one Abraxas, like a lot of your most thoughtful works an open mind is required!
I loved how you cleverly manipulated the reader into engaging with the underlying theme about faith and belief by being ambiguous with how Akran died, you don't know and so have to believe a truth that can not be proven. Then you go on (like a mad man) to say as much which has the effect of making the reader confront the fact that inherently you (and i) had chosen to believe. and that's just one aspect of what i read in your story, i get he feeling you have been agonizing over this story for a long time.
You really can right an essay on this short story, and it was mostly subtly done. Really really good work will miss the chronicles!
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Caspardian
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2011.03.06 18:25:00 -
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Very interesting. I've played EVE for about a year now, and I read this the day it came out, but I just finished a three week long endeavor of reading every chronicle.
I have to say, with the exception of a few early ones, they were all very excellent. However, even though it was fun to read, this one seems out of place.
There have been strange goings-on with this universe before, such as the possibility of Sarum having telekinetic power. But this (to me, anyway) is the one that pushes furthest into the more mystical realm of EVE.
REALLY LONG, PROBABLY ERROR-RIDDEN ANALYSIS WHICH MAKES VERY GOOD USE OF RUN-ON SENTENCES:
In my opinion, it is absolutely clear that this "book" is a product of the Jove or first-generation New Eden inhabitants, since Skar saw Black Mountain, a thing which was also seen when using a piece technology created by the Jove back in the Black Mountain chronicle series. Sure, it could be a mathematical and/or literary method of messing with the human brain, but the fact that this book is mentioned in Amarrian scripture makes this book seem paranormal to me, because that means the book is really ****ing old, and could possibly be so old as to have been around since humans first came through the EVE Gate, since Amarrian religion is based on scripture from that time. If humans at that time had such an intimate understanding of the human psychology, why is it that such knowledge as the BoE was not so prevalent as to have survived as common knowledge with the Jove to the present day? It's clear the Jove had lost this info, and considering the dark age they went through could not have been anywhere near as terrible as the one the rest of the Empires went through... well, it's very curious that the BoE could have been lost at all, and if it had been lost, to have not been buried so deeply as to have been never discovered again.
Pure speculation: I am seeing some interesting parallels between the symptoms of Jovian disease and the results of reading the BoE. Perhaps the depression seen in the disease is actually the effects of the BoE being mistaken for depression, though I don't know how Jovians who haven't read the book could gain the symptoms. Perhaps the genetic code which was damaged is what keeps the mind from falling into disorder. - - - - - - And another one gone, and another one gone, another one bites the dust...
Dang, I really need to stop losing ships. |
Vran DalEsra
Amarr SpaceCraft Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.08 16:41:00 -
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A most excellent story. I'll have to find something else to read while mining now..
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Dirk Pitys-da-foo
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Posted - 2011.05.14 21:06:00 -
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For thosze of you who liked reading this I recommend a book called "The city at the end of time" by greg bear, if this type of story were a genre then "The city at the end of time" and "the book of emptiness" would be the only books in the genre.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.05.25 15:03:00 -
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What is Black Mountain? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2011.05.25 19:47:00 -
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A bunch of chronicles.
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Moira Shazara
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Posted - 2011.06.10 04:07:00 -
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Where can I find part 1?
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2011.06.11 13:55:00 -
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Edited by: Che Biko on 11/06/2011 13:54:59 There's a menu on your left, the top one, EVE Online, contains a subsection labeled Backstory. In there is a link to the list of chronicles. There you will find part 1. Or you could search the evelopedia, the chronicles are all there too.
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Gunmetal grey
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Posted - 2011.06.27 04:30:00 -
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Very Cool story, i'd have to say "Cthulhuesque" even.
There are some themes in the story that line up with Lovecrafts work, likely without intending to.
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Poor Lazarus
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Posted - 2011.08.25 15:15:00 -
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The more they try to push this new "Eve Is Real" campaign, the more I miss the Eve Chronicles. I hope Abraxas is doing well with his new Immersion Project, his stories always added so much depth to Eve. |
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