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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P
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Posted - 2010.12.28 15:52:00 -
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CCP Abraxas brings us "The Book of Emptiness, Part Two" who says this is the closest he has come to expressing how he feels about faith, violence, and the writing of stories.
This is the final chronicle in what has been an ongoing publication for the past four years, but donĘt worry this doesnĘt mean we are done with them. We don't know when we will publish more, but when we do, we will be sure to announce it. If you want to stay up-to-date on what's going on with future chronicle work or Abraxas himself, you can follow him on twitter at @cloisterphobe. Thank you for reading and all your support.
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Myxx
Risen Angels
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Posted - 2010.12.28 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: Myxx on 28/12/2010 15:55:13 in before chribba, now reading... --
Originally by: CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
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Raavanan
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Posted - 2010.12.28 16:47:00 -
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been a fan of chronicles ever since i remember.. shame to see them go. and a terrifying read as usual.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Gallente Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2010.12.28 17:07:00 -
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Well that was a nice chronicle... To bad we won't have any for some time.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.12.28 17:18:00 -
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Very very interesting.
Hyperconsciousness. What could it be... I feel like I might know, almost. Ever have one of those moments of perfect clarity? Religious folks call them epiphanies, I just call them a pain in the ass. But in those moments, those rare gaps in the day-to-day going-thru-the-motions where you don't really think... I don't know, it's hard to explain.
Sometimes I can look at a set of events. When I do, I start building these "road-maps of consequence" in my head. Why did it happen, what'll happen next. View possible outcomes to each of the set of events, and how those outcomes will interact. It's like Nicholas Cage in Next, except I don't get to suck face with Jessica Biel. Sometimes these events I'm imagining, interact with such absolute clarity that I can predict what'll happen via basic mental extrapolation. It could be any set of events, really; how two people interact, what news is coming from two nations, etc.
This is most likely a sign of profound mental illness.
Regardless, any time I have these "moments of clarity" I am left horribly depressed.
Maybe that's the Jovians' problem, too. Maybe sometimes it's better not to think so much.
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Raging Glory
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Posted - 2010.12.28 17:39:00 -
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Schopenhauer (Sp?) the philosopher wrote once,
"Life is but an unpleasant interlude between two periods of blissful non-existence". Perhaps this is the protagonists' message.
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Azura Noctis
Amarr SWARTA Mostly Clueless
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Posted - 2010.12.28 18:29:00 -
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Excellent...again sad to these stories go away for awhile.
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Am Li
Caldari 0ne Percent.
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Posted - 2010.12.28 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Am Li on 28/12/2010 19:03:42 Edited by: Am Li on 28/12/2010 19:03:01 Wait... What? Youre ending chronicles?~ without back story... this game loses its meaning.
[broken heart]
We are now just shot laser for the golden freet... fear the pew pew sansha DOMINION GAMING, LAID BACK GAMING CLAN Homepage |
Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.28 20:10:00 -
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Yeeeeeesssssss......~
Originally by: Am Li stuff
Sounds like someone needs to go read a few devblogs. -----
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Rodtrik
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Posted - 2010.12.28 20:23:00 -
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Enheduanni came from Jove, Jove made book of emptiness, seems Skar "ascended" from understanding or...not understanding said book.....wat
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Horatius Caul
Amarr Cataphractia Imperiates
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Posted - 2010.12.28 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Horatius Caul on 28/12/2010 20:28:42
Quote: It was written in the old tongue
Yes... yes... of course it was... ----- Amarrad - A Language Project |
Auwnie Morohe
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Posted - 2010.12.28 20:57:00 -
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I liked it.
Looking forward to seeing stories emerge in game.
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Vlam watBrand
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Posted - 2010.12.28 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Vlam watBrand on 28/12/2010 23:13:12 I see a lot of positive comments here. but alas, I have to disagree. Not that it matters, as I HAVE read the "book of emptiness". This is such a pitifull ending. Its like the horror stories of old, where the monster is killed, and then you see some eggs hatching in a distant corner of a shed. So unimaginitive , exspecially for a Science Fiction writer. Sci-fi has long ago moved past the point of cliff hangers. Writers that either wants a sequel for a bad movie, or just could not find a good ending themselve, usually use cliffhangers as endings. I read a lot, and the books I remember are the ones where I was very impressed with the ending (Real Endings) either they making me very sad, or mad, or I loved what happened to the hero or heroes. ..but a cliffhanger... honestly, I can't even remember a good cliffhanger ending anywhere (except the horror movies of course.. and oh yes,.. the book of emptiness.) I feel kind of empty now.... Oh No.. did I just..?? Oh the shame!!! I @#$$3d my pants. I don't think I will remember this story.
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Arakimo
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Posted - 2010.12.29 00:26:00 -
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another one goes over my head.
i guess i'm just stupid?
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Paladinhunt
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Posted - 2010.12.29 00:29:00 -
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This tells a great story, much of it composed of a man split between a Pandora's box of "power or consciousness" or resume the tensions for life of wheather or not his religion is true.
Great story, I would enjoy to hear more from the gallente about the hypercapitalism or the president's day to day duties
Paladinhunt
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Shayna Brellis
Sensus Numinis Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.12.29 01:24:00 -
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The actual text in the 'reading' scene doesn't matter as much as the way the style changes. Compare the way most of the chronicle is written to the last two paragraphs...I think that's what Abraxas was getting at. It's not a cliffhanger at all, it illustrates the soldier's transition from being a sane but very worried professional to becoming a madman, his mind racing faster than it can safely handle.
Most of the story...fairly slow pace, open text spacing, mostly short sentences. Reading scene...rapid pace, solid block of text, long run-on sentences.
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CCP Abraxas
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Posted - 2010.12.29 02:41:00 -
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For those who wonder: It's not a cliffhanger. This is probably the most final ending I've ever written.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.12.29 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas Edited by: CCP Abraxas on 29/12/2010 02:46:56 For those who wonder: It's not a cliffhanger. This is probably the most final ending I've ever written. Shayna nailed it one post further up, and the only thing I'd add is that at the very end it's basically become a metatext.
You translated it into writing very well. That rapid, paranoid quickening of thought. That sudden burst of seemingly unrelated association where things start making sense. And after the mental machine-gun finally overheats and grows silent, quiet acceptance... and a nice, long sleep.
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kano donn
Revolution.
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Posted - 2010.12.29 03:54:00 -
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Abraxas... you amazing amazing man.
<3 every story you have ever written and my god this is an ending that will live in my memory
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.12.29 04:27:00 -
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I admit I'm a bit confused about Skar's intentions in the story. Apparently, he killed Akran because he felt a distinct wrongness in bringing matters of faith into the material realm, finding the actual physicality of the Book of Emptiness an abomination. But then he goes ahead and reads it...? What? Why? I had the impression his actions were a sort of denial of the book's existence in his world, but then he vindicates its existence by not immediately burying it again.
Does someone else have a better grasp of what was going on in his head at that fateful decision?
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Katrina Bekers
Gallente Mia Corp
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Posted - 2010.12.29 09:37:00 -
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Interesting. But... Uhm... Well, not my cup of tea. Good writing (as usual), inspired philosophical-religious delirium, a story with some twists. But still... Meh.
Maybe I should read it again, both parts at once. --- Kat |
Rytha Main
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Posted - 2010.12.29 09:37:00 -
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((This can't be the end. The Chronicles were one of the defining characteristics of EVE. No other MMO to my knowledge has such a universe so vast, so original, and so organic as this game, and to take one of it's pillars away as a regular occurrence is a bit disappointing. I admit, not all of them were "my cup of tea", but I read them regardless. Despite this however, the overall concepts, themes, quality of writing and story is outstanding. I for one would like them to continue on a regular basis))
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Grishax
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Posted - 2010.12.29 09:39:00 -
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Nathan,
First off, Skar didn't kill Akran. Blood drained from his face, no apparent injury; almost looks like he was scared to death, by something.
Next, I'm going to confuse you even more...
You say he vindicates it's existance by not burying it. I say he did the exact opposite, whether consious or not. IF he had decided to re-bury it, would he not have vindicated the importance of the book?
Religous belief is a ficle thing. It depends on the fact you do not HAVE proof of the very thing you believe in. Else it's not belief, it's knowledge. In this, gaining proof of your religion is a self defeating action. Once you have the proof of your religion, you may gain the KNOWLEDGE, but you will loose your BELIEF, with all it's mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is a afterlife, would it not take the meaning from LIVING itself? Why not quit this life, and be done with it?
Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Now compress a lifetime of these ponderings into the time required to read a couple of pages. You'll go mad, most probably loosing your mind.
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Anyura
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Posted - 2010.12.29 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas Edited by: CCP Abraxas on 29/12/2010 02:46:56 For those who wonder: It's not a cliffhanger. This is probably the most final ending I've ever written. Shayna nailed it one post further up, and the only thing I'd add is that at the very end it's basically become a metatext.
Meta 4 or Meta 8
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Sartorami
Minmatar Roid Runners Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.12.29 14:29:00 -
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Coming in late, but as nobody seems to comment on this, I felt it neccesarry to remind everybody that this story and the preceeding one was supposed to -precede- Black Mountain. aka, ancient history. If anything new would have come of this, chances are we'd already know of it(Black Mountain, other articles) or come to learn of it in later, largely free-standing chronicles. not follow-ups. I daresay we know what happened to that man and his soldiers...
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2010.12.29 15:00:00 -
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One day after reading it, this "poem" from HORSE the Band pops up in my head:
crickets clicking in the silence ticking making me feel empty down to my very core hiding in the silence broadcasting tiny little violence the clicking ticking in the night that wasn't there before
I'm gonna re-read the Black Mountain chronicles to fill the void of no chronicles.
P.S. Why is the author of a chronicle only mentioned on this forum and not on EVElopedia or the chron itself?
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Doctor Carbonatite
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Posted - 2010.12.29 17:02:00 -
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I've enjoyed the Chronicles. Is there no way for other CCP employees or players/ISDs to continue adding to them? Maybe some kind of submission process that would go like (Player/ISD submission)-->(Vetting by higher ISD)-->(Review by Abraxas or other CCP Employee)-->(Posting if worthwhile), with all the necessary waivers and other BS, could be an interesting option.
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JoeBear770
Amarr Faster Muffins
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Posted - 2010.12.29 22:44:00 -
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Could this have been the story of how the Blood Raiders cult came to be? Blood drained from his face and all, could Skar have been the founder?
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LOL56
First Flying Wing Inc ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2010.12.30 00:18:00 -
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I have not read the book of emptiness
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Nathan Jameson
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Posted - 2010.12.30 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Grishax Nathan,
First off, Skar didn't kill Akran. Blood drained from his face, no apparent injury; almost looks like he was scared to death, by something.
Next, I'm going to confuse you even more...
You say he vindicates it's existance by not burying it. I say he did the exact opposite, whether consious or not. IF he had decided to re-bury it, would he not have vindicated the importance of the book?
Religous belief is a ficle thing. It depends on the fact you do not HAVE proof of the very thing you believe in. Else it's not belief, it's knowledge. In this, gaining proof of your religion is a self defeating action. Once you have the proof of your religion, you may gain the KNOWLEDGE, but you will loose your BELIEF, with all it's mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is a afterlife, would it not take the meaning from LIVING itself? Why not quit this life, and be done with it?
Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Now compress a lifetime of these ponderings into the time required to read a couple of pages. You'll go mad, most probably loosing your mind.
Hmm...interesting thoughts. Not sure I agree with all of them, based on some of the ways things were worded, but your views are definitely defensible. Thank you for the insights.
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KagehiK
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Posted - 2010.12.30 04:21:00 -
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Moments of clarity.. Never had one. Or, more accurately, I have them all the time? Since I was in like 8th grade, at least, probably earlier, but this was when I first tried to program a computer. I have always "seen" how things connect together. On some level, with computers, you *must*, and doing so *requires* knowledge. Knowledge of how you think, how others think, how, and even what, a computer can be made to think, etc. If anything, age has probably robbed me of some of that clarity, calcifying some expectations. But, even with religion, I could see the connections between them, how they borrowed from each other, where they failed to address key points in their explanations, where other explanations made more sense than the ones given, and more to the point, how this lead to failure for those that tried to follow them, and failure for those that didn't, often due to inference by those that did.
This kind of gives me a bit of a buffer, I think. Its hard to be greatly depressed when the world continues to live up to your low expectations of your own, and everyone else's, grasp of what is really going on. If I was going to lose it over something so trivial, it would have been when I was about six. Better to strive for a clearer picture, in hope that knowing how things connect better, you can find the right piece to nudge, so that maybe someone doesn't make that mistake you see looming otherwise.
No, moments of clarity are only madness if you think everything else is "normal", and as it should be, to start with. Then, such discoveries become profoundly disturbing, since they pull the rug from under the feet of what you *thought* the real world looked like. ;) Knowing that you tread on quick sand, to start with, lets you find the relatively stable ground between, and not be overly surprised when you misstep.
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Alana Kel
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Posted - 2010.12.30 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas Edited by: CCP Abraxas on 29/12/2010 02:46:56 For those who wonder: It's not a cliffhanger. This is probably the most final ending I've ever written. Shayna nailed it one post further up, and the only thing I'd add is that at the very end it's basically become a metatext.
CCP Abraxas:
As someone who's seen that kind of madness, who's experienced it, who's lived it...
...thank you. All your writing speaks to me in a really odd way, kind of a continuous metatext in and of itself. I didn't really get why until I did not read The Book of Emptiness. I knew the answer all along.
So, I'll just end this by saying something rather obvious; you understand EVE. At least, you understand the basic underlying thema.
The Burning Life - Conflict. Black Mountain - Such a good metaphor. The Book of Emptiness - Acceptance and transcendence.
In no particular order, it makes sense, stripped of context. I'm glad you found your end, though I hope this is not the end.
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Grikath
T.E.L.O.G.S. Mostly Clueless
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Posted - 2010.12.30 11:19:00 -
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The chronicles need never end... There's plenty fine minds that write EVE-based fiction, and the gems can be... elevated... into the background library that the chronicles are. Something to aspire to for some?
This is just the end of a chapter, and in true EVE style it is up to the players to build where the Devs laid the bare framework after the page has turned to reveal the pristine whiteness of the blank page, awaiting those who dare to paint their minds' eye visions onto the bare canvas.
Meanwhile I'm quite sure Abraxas took a poor troll out of his cold cell on the ending :P Well done sir.
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Nie'eine Hier
NieCo Group
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Posted - 2010.12.30 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Nie''eine Hier on 30/12/2010 15:44:24 Don't end the bloodstream of our dreams, please .
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.12.30 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Carbonatite I've enjoyed the Chronicles. Is there no way for other CCP employees or players/ISDs to continue adding to them? Maybe some kind of submission process that would go like (Player/ISD submission)-->(Vetting by higher ISD)-->(Review by Abraxas or other CCP Employee)-->(Posting if worthwhile), with all the necessary waivers and other BS, could be an interesting option.
There used to be. I'm the guy who wrote the chrons titled Doppelganger, Titans, Vampire and The Outcast. I'm fairly sure one of my corpmates wrote one or two others.
You could also try submitting chrons to E-ON Magazine.
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Anyura
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Posted - 2010.12.31 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: Doctor Carbonatite I've enjoyed the Chronicles. Is there no way for other CCP employees or players/ISDs to continue adding to them? Maybe some kind of submission process that would go like (Player/ISD submission)-->(Vetting by higher ISD)-->(Review by Abraxas or other CCP Employee)-->(Posting if worthwhile), with all the necessary waivers and other BS, could be an interesting option.
There used to be. I'm the guy who wrote the chrons titled Doppelganger, Titans, Vampire and The Outcast. I'm fairly sure one of my corpmates wrote one or two others.
You could also try submitting chrons to E-ON Magazine.
Oh really? I liked the "Titans" one.
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Tiberius Amzadee
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.01.02 04:43:00 -
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I almost got lost near the ending myself. It was like going down a slide,I kept reading faster and faster then suddenly I'm in the air. I thought about the past chronicles all the way up to this last one and now feel strangely empty but free.
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CCP Abraxas
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Posted - 2011.01.02 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tiberius Amzadee I thought about the past chronicles all the way up to this last one and now feel strangely empty but free.
Yeah, you and me both, man.
... hey, wait a minute ...
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Dhamon Myncar
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.01.05 19:32:00 -
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I never got the sense that skar was necessarily the religious type. In fact, i think it says that he did so only as a matter of course (being an accepted member of amarrian society etc). So to have his religious "rug pulled out from under him" by reading undeniable truths about said religion doesn't seem to me like it would shatter his self awareness to the point of unconsciousness or hyperconsciousness or death, depending on how you read it. Now im not saying he wasn't on the verge of becoming a babbling lunatic anyway, just seems incongruent w my impressions of the character even in the short time we knew him. Unless the implication that the book o' emptiness has some kind of special power other than the concrete but ephemeral, white but black, hot but cold truth. Good read, always enjoy the stories no matter how much they make me think.
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mattig89ch1
Caldari Caeye Assault Technologies
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Posted - 2011.01.12 02:31:00 -
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I have to admit, I'm sad to see these chronicles end. they always put eve into context.
anyone know why they are ending? __________________________________________________ HK-47: "Can I kill him master? I would very much like to break his neck, just a little, its been a long time fantasy of mine." |
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Griffolion
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.01.27 13:36:00 -
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I didn't get it :(
The chrons are ending :(
DOUBLE SADNESS.
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Miss Connolly
Public Relations Corp
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Posted - 2011.02.02 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rytha Main
This can't be the end. The Chronicles were one of the defining characteristics of EVE. No other MMO to my knowledge has such a universe so vast, so original, and so organic as this game, and to take one of it's pillars away as a regular occurrence is a bit disappointing. I admit, not all of them were "my cup of tea", but I read them regardless. Despite this however, the overall concepts, themes, quality of writing and story is outstanding. I for one would like them to continue on a regular basis
I totally agree with this post. After taking one of my many EVE breaks I'd often drop by the homepage and read the chronicles and would often be grabbed by a sudden wish to come back to EVE after reading a few of them. They gave the game a depth and feeling of a living world that I really don't want to miss.
Without this kind of rich back story EVE would only be a simple "laser beams and missiles" sort of game and wouldn't be half as motivating/enticing.
I hope CCP is aware of this and will revive the chronicles ASAP. ___________________ "It was mentioned by CCP that the data does not seem to support that polished quality sells better than new features."
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Bobaflex Doomwalker
Gallente Conclave United
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Posted - 2011.02.10 23:55:00 -
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It's a shame to see the chronicles go on this hiatus. But it was an interesting way to go. Well done.
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Sean Mc
Legio Invicta Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2011.02.18 14:03:00 -
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Really enjoyed this one Abraxas, like a lot of your most thoughtful works an open mind is required!
I loved how you cleverly manipulated the reader into engaging with the underlying theme about faith and belief by being ambiguous with how Akran died, you don't know and so have to believe a truth that can not be proven. Then you go on (like a mad man) to say as much which has the effect of making the reader confront the fact that inherently you (and i) had chosen to believe. and that's just one aspect of what i read in your story, i get he feeling you have been agonizing over this story for a long time.
You really can right an essay on this short story, and it was mostly subtly done. Really really good work will miss the chronicles!
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Caspardian
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2011.03.06 18:25:00 -
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Very interesting. I've played EVE for about a year now, and I read this the day it came out, but I just finished a three week long endeavor of reading every chronicle.
I have to say, with the exception of a few early ones, they were all very excellent. However, even though it was fun to read, this one seems out of place.
There have been strange goings-on with this universe before, such as the possibility of Sarum having telekinetic power. But this (to me, anyway) is the one that pushes furthest into the more mystical realm of EVE.
REALLY LONG, PROBABLY ERROR-RIDDEN ANALYSIS WHICH MAKES VERY GOOD USE OF RUN-ON SENTENCES:
In my opinion, it is absolutely clear that this "book" is a product of the Jove or first-generation New Eden inhabitants, since Skar saw Black Mountain, a thing which was also seen when using a piece technology created by the Jove back in the Black Mountain chronicle series. Sure, it could be a mathematical and/or literary method of messing with the human brain, but the fact that this book is mentioned in Amarrian scripture makes this book seem paranormal to me, because that means the book is really ****ing old, and could possibly be so old as to have been around since humans first came through the EVE Gate, since Amarrian religion is based on scripture from that time. If humans at that time had such an intimate understanding of the human psychology, why is it that such knowledge as the BoE was not so prevalent as to have survived as common knowledge with the Jove to the present day? It's clear the Jove had lost this info, and considering the dark age they went through could not have been anywhere near as terrible as the one the rest of the Empires went through... well, it's very curious that the BoE could have been lost at all, and if it had been lost, to have not been buried so deeply as to have been never discovered again.
Pure speculation: I am seeing some interesting parallels between the symptoms of Jovian disease and the results of reading the BoE. Perhaps the depression seen in the disease is actually the effects of the BoE being mistaken for depression, though I don't know how Jovians who haven't read the book could gain the symptoms. Perhaps the genetic code which was damaged is what keeps the mind from falling into disorder. - - - - - - And another one gone, and another one gone, another one bites the dust...
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Vran DalEsra
Amarr SpaceCraft Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.08 16:41:00 -
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A most excellent story. I'll have to find something else to read while mining now..
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Dirk Pitys-da-foo
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Posted - 2011.05.14 21:06:00 -
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For thosze of you who liked reading this I recommend a book called "The city at the end of time" by greg bear, if this type of story were a genre then "The city at the end of time" and "the book of emptiness" would be the only books in the genre.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.05.25 15:03:00 -
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What is Black Mountain? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2011.05.25 19:47:00 -
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A bunch of chronicles.
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Moira Shazara
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Posted - 2011.06.10 04:07:00 -
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Where can I find part 1?
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2011.06.11 13:55:00 -
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Edited by: Che Biko on 11/06/2011 13:54:59 There's a menu on your left, the top one, EVE Online, contains a subsection labeled Backstory. In there is a link to the list of chronicles. There you will find part 1. Or you could search the evelopedia, the chronicles are all there too.
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Gunmetal grey
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Posted - 2011.06.27 04:30:00 -
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Very Cool story, i'd have to say "Cthulhuesque" even.
There are some themes in the story that line up with Lovecrafts work, likely without intending to.
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Poor Lazarus
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Posted - 2011.08.25 15:15:00 -
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The more they try to push this new "Eve Is Real" campaign, the more I miss the Eve Chronicles. I hope Abraxas is doing well with his new Immersion Project, his stories always added so much depth to Eve. |
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