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Sn8kez
Caldari Zor Industries Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:27:00 -
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Sounds like it was a laugh, mixed emotions about missing it :P
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Colonel STFU
Caldari The Knights Templar R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Shadoo Good job NC -- nice kills and good show.
There was no plan I think -- NC support was getting eaten alive, they jumped supers in with hardly any support left alive after we got a good drop on them.
Plan from after engaging was to kill 1-2 titans then GTFO, but DDs stopped cycling and PL support got murdered. At the end we called it, lost 6 titans and 2 SCs killing 2 Titans and some scrubs.
PL gets overconfident regularly, and we seem to get our asses ****d to knock us few hundred pegs down every year or so :). Of all the people to get ****d by, I actually was quite happy it was Vuk and Imperian :).
Like I said, PL Spin is best Spin..
You guys didn't want those Titans and Supers anyways, right?
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niko ono
Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:30:00 -
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i keep hearing rumors about A LOT (13+ SCs and 1 titan) of PL supers self-destructing. true/not true/true but numbers are off? . |

Yaay
Amarr Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Shadoo Good job NC -- nice kills and good show.
There was no plan I think -- NC support was getting eaten alive, they jumped supers in with hardly any support left alive after we got a good drop on them.
Plan from after engaging was to kill 1-2 titans then GTFO, but DDs stopped cycling and PL support got murdered. At the end we called it, lost 6 titans and 2 SCs killing 2 Titans and some scrubs.
PL gets overconfident regularly, and we seem to get our asses ****d to knock us few hundred pegs down every year or so :). Of all the people to get ****d by, I actually was quite happy it was Vuk and Imperian :).
Getting conflicting views/reports of the support fight... when i jumped in, i checked wrecks and it appeared our support was doing just fine. I saw probably 40 enemy wrecks and probably the same friendly. I can only go by wreck counts.
As for your capital plan... I figured it was something along those lines, but did you not think you were going to get rage bubbled 1 jump out from the entire NC's core staging system?
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Headerman
Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:31:00 -
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Props to MM, u guys are ****ing awesome.
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Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Vuk Lau on 31/12/2010 00:32:03 http://www.clubforum.org/Untitled.jpg sadly I couldnt overload my hardeners cause I crashed, but I would die anyway, tho if i prolonged my death I would save our 2nd titan which died. As i said props to PL for jumping onto us. It was fun, until everyone and their mother brought dozens of Noctisi and lagged the system out. At the end we logged off 2 fleets of 100 people and all carriers in order to keep the node alive.
RIP Deki, the flagship of RAWR.
I am accepting donations for the new ship on both "Vuk Lau" and "Deki" chars cause I RMTed all isk so I am poor now, and I would love not to be forced to sell Adrestia I got from PL as present in order to fly titan again.
Thanks in advance.
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Shadow Bloodtear
Gallente Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:33:00 -
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In rough summary for those who didn't make it. PL supers gathered, NC supers gathered. NC fleet jumped into Y-W1Q3 and gathered on a gate. NC fleet size was about 140-160 at this time. Minutes later a PL HAC fleet mixed with T3 ships came through the gate. NC titans let loose. A few minutes after that a PL cyno went up and PL commited their super cap fleet to one of the largest capital battles of all time.
It's rumored that PL primaried a razor leviathan (but I can't confirm yet). Both sides locked up and began firing. NC forces continuously were reinforced by supporting cyno fleets and every capital for 2-3 regions over converged on Y-W1Q3.
Pandemic Legion losses: ------------------------------ Acrel - avatar 56.7bil Lona Wwyd - avatar 50.4bil Wasp O'Ryan - erebus 56.8bil nightjackel - erebus 61.4bil dyami - rag (no km generated, estimated 60bil) princess leonesse - erebus (estimated 60bil) tornpain - aeon 26.7bil 8+ T3 ships ~ 6bil
Northern Coalition lost: ----------------------------- Unknown pilot (levi)? (estimated 55bil) Deki (rag) 70.5bil
PL force became outnumbered quickly without reinforcements, and began a tactical withdrawal. Bubbles, lag, neuts, points held down enough to inflict significant super capital losses. Pilot Tsunami something in a Nyx was the last target, and he vanished at low armor. System reached at least 950 players.
Total losses: PL: 378bil + NC: 125.5bil +
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Dragon Rose
Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Shadow Bloodtear In rough summary for those who didn't make it. PL supers gathered, NC supers gathered. NC fleet jumped into Y-W1Q3 and gathered on a gate. NC fleet size was about 140-160 at this time. Minutes later a PL HAC fleet mixed with T3 ships came through the gate. NC titans let loose. A few minutes after that a PL cyno went up and PL commited their super cap fleet to one of the largest capital battles of all time.
It's rumored that PL primaried a razor leviathan (but I can't confirm yet). Both sides locked up and began firing. NC forces continuously were reinforced by supporting cyno fleets and every capital for 2-3 regions over converged on Y-W1Q3.
Pandemic Legion losses: ------------------------------ Acrel - avatar 56.7bil Lona Wwyd - avatar 50.4bil Wasp O'Ryan - erebus 56.8bil nightjackel - erebus 61.4bil dyami - rag (no km generated, estimated 60bil) princess leonesse - erebus (estimated 60bil) tornpain - aeon 26.7bil 8+ T3 ships ~ 6bil
Northern Coalition lost: ----------------------------- Unknown pilot (levi)? (estimated 55bil) Deki (rag) 70.5bil
PL force became outnumbered quickly without reinforcements, and began a tactical withdrawal. Bubbles, lag, neuts, points held down enough to inflict significant super capital losses. Pilot Tsunami something in a Nyx was the last target, and he vanished at low armor. System reached at least 950 players.
Total losses: PL: 378bil + NC: 125.5bil +
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Solid summary, and it was a fun ass fight!
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Headerman
Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:43:00 -
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You guys gonna refuel and go after the tech towers now?
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Krut0j
Caldari The xXDEATHXx Squadron
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:50:00 -
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i am russian hear me roar
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Dusk Nemesis
Minmatar Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:51:00 -
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Edited by: Dusk Nemesis on 31/12/2010 00:52:39
Originally by: Vuk Lau Edited by: Vuk Lau on 31/12/2010 00:32:03 http://www.clubforum.org/Untitled.jpg
Funny ceca is in the background chrome tab :)
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Jack Winters
Gallente 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:52:00 -
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wtb fraps ^^
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Sergeant Shafto
Caldari NibbleTek Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Shadow Bloodtear In rough summary for those who didn't make it. PL supers gathered, NC supers gathered. NC fleet jumped into Y-W1Q3 and gathered on a gate. NC fleet size was about 140-160 at this time. Minutes later a PL HAC fleet mixed with T3 ships came through the gate. NC titans let loose. A few minutes after that a PL cyno went up and PL commited their super cap fleet to one of the largest capital battles of all time.
It's rumored that PL primaried a razor leviathan (but I can't confirm yet). Both sides locked up and began firing. NC forces continuously were reinforced by supporting cyno fleets and every capital for 2-3 regions over converged on Y-W1Q3.
Pandemic Legion losses: ------------------------------ Acrel - avatar 56.7bil Lona Wwyd - avatar 50.4bil Wasp O'Ryan - erebus 56.8bil nightjackel - erebus 61.4bil dyami - rag (no km generated, estimated 60bil) princess leonesse - erebus (estimated 60bil) tornpain - aeon 26.7bil 8+ T3 ships ~ 6bil
Northern Coalition lost: ----------------------------- Unknown pilot (levi)? (estimated 55bil) Deki (rag) 70.5bil
PL force became outnumbered quickly without reinforcements, and began a tactical withdrawal. Bubbles, lag, neuts, points held down enough to inflict significant super capital losses. Pilot Tsunami something in a Nyx was the last target, and he vanished at low armor. System reached at least 950 players.
Total losses: PL: 378bil + NC: 125.5bil +
Well I duno bout the isk war, but the lead up to supers jumping in is off. Yaay's also got wreck brackets messed up.
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Silc'n
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:55:00 -
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Tried to fraps it in Sabre but lag was horrible and I had trouble in bubble placement. Lag during the fight didn't clear out at all. -------------------------------- Goons in Blackbirds are awesome. |

Shadoo
Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Yaay
Originally by: Shadoo Good job NC -- nice kills and good show.
There was no plan I think -- NC support was getting eaten alive, they jumped supers in with hardly any support left alive after we got a good drop on them.
Plan from after engaging was to kill 1-2 titans then GTFO, but DDs stopped cycling and PL support got murdered. At the end we called it, lost 6 titans and 2 SCs killing 2 Titans and some scrubs.
PL gets overconfident regularly, and we seem to get our asses ****d to knock us few hundred pegs down every year or so :). Of all the people to get ****d by, I actually was quite happy it was Vuk and Imperian :).
Getting conflicting views/reports of the support fight... when i jumped in, i checked wrecks and it appeared our support was doing just fine. I saw probably 40 enemy wrecks and probably the same friendly. I can only go by wreck counts.
As for your capital plan... I figured it was something along those lines, but did you not think you were going to get rage bubbled 1 jump out from the entire NC's core staging system?
I posted a better summary of events on Kugu, but re: support fight the wrecks you probably saw were PL bombers -- we were winning the support fight hands down until your capital fleet came in. Ofc -- our mistake was to jump in AFTER your caps had jumped, since with the NC carrier reps and titan DDs on T3/Commands - our support was NOT winning anymore.
But alas, you roll the dices and you make some mistakes in games :). Fitting this was also Y- :).
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Silc'n
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:58:00 -
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Also those numbers are off. NC did hit PL hard but we sustained quite a lot of damage ourselves. All that remains are the memories of a great fight and the knowledge that being able to deploy caps at the drop of a hat is currently the only true lulz generator in EVE, at least for me. -------------------------------- Goons in Blackbirds are awesome. |

Shadow Bloodtear
Gallente Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.12.31 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Shafto
Well I duno bout the isk war, but the lead up to supers jumping in is off. Yaay's also got wreck brackets messed up.
Ya it's quite possible. I got a wake-up call and just kinda barely jumped in right as things were starting. I wasn't there for events leading up to the battle, lol
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Fubba Bett
Amarr Sean Moneypenny Trading Inc
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:06:00 -
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Well i opened the original cyno to catch the NC support fleet and when NC capitals jumped in and starting primaring my HIC i decided to jump into UMI to avoid a doomsday and i had to smile a bit when i see 3-4 NC caps trying to jump the gate to y-w 
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Yaay
Amarr Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Shafto
Well I duno bout the isk war, but the lead up to supers jumping in is off. Yaay's also got wreck brackets messed up.
PL killboard says 96 total kills so far.. I'm assuming it's been api verified by now... That support fleet fight raged on long after we jumped in, so I hold by my 40 count each side.
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Steve Floros
Caldari Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:10:00 -
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It was a good capital fight, in times when Capital Fleets are mostly for showing off...
I think all parties enjoyed it. We salute the fallen enemies. Thanx for the interesting fight PL.
o7
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SetrakDark
Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:12:00 -
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1) So was this worse in absolute terms than Y-2 (with all the conventional cap losses in Y-2 that didn't happen here)?
If yes:
2) Was this worse in relative terms (with the explosion of supercap numbers over the year)?
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Shadoo
Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: Shadoo on 31/12/2010 01:15:48
Originally by: Yaay
PL killboard says 96 total kills so far.. I'm assuming it's been api verified by now... That support fleet fight raged on long after we jumped in, so I hold by my 40 count each side.
Most wrecks I saw were hac or cruiser size.. your in peeps were failing you tonight I think. Confirmed PL labels on the enemy wrecks.
Yeah, we've ran API few times -- but there was a period of time when KMs got eaten. One PL KM never generated (I checked corp tab since it was NESW Rag) and one RZR Levi never generated.
So I'd say 20-40 support mails probably also went missing, probably mostly PL HACs since we did not have much of the support fleet return home for sure .
Originally by: SetrakDark 1) So was this worse in absolute terms than Y-2 (with all the conventional cap losses in Y-2 that didn't happen here)?
If yes:
2) Was this worse in relative terms (with the explosion of supercap numbers over the year)?
I do dare to say Y-W set the new record for 1) Most supercapitals killed in a single fight and 2) most supercapitals lost by a single alliance. We were missing that record I think after the WN vs. NC supercap fight, but firmly in our rightful place again now!
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dalman
Caldari TunDraGon Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Yaay
Originally by: Sergeant Shafto
Well I duno bout the isk war, but the lead up to supers jumping in is off. Yaay's also got wreck brackets messed up.
PL killboard says 96 total kills so far.. I'm assuming it's been api verified by now... That support fleet fight raged on long after we jumped in, so I hold by my 40 count each side.
If you check the battle report on our KB it's quite obvious how it went down: https://www.pandemic-legion.com/killboard/view_battle.php?start_time=2010-12-30%2021:50:00&end_time=2010-12-30%2023:59:00&system=Y-W1Q3
21:52 EVE time, PL drag-bubbled your support fleet off the gate in Y-W and bridged the PL support on top of it. During the first 10 minutes your support fleet was getting slaughtered - until you brought in caps. For the following 10 minutes you were, as said earlier, killing out support as your titans DDed and lag messed up remote reps, and PL jumped in supers. After 25 minutes, NC had piled enough ppl into the system for nothing at all to work due to lag. For the next 90 minutes ppl couldn't do anything except slowly watch some titans dying. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |

Sergeant Shafto
Caldari NibbleTek Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Yaay Edited by: Yaay on 31/12/2010 01:10:37
Originally by: Sergeant Shafto
Well I duno bout the isk war, but the lead up to supers jumping in is off. Yaay's also got wreck brackets messed up.
PL killboard says 96 total kills so far.. I'm assuming it's been api verified by now... That support fleet fight raged on long after we jumped in, so I hold by my 40 count each side.
Most wrecks I saw were hac or cruiser size.. your in peeps were failing you tonight I think. Confirmed PL labels on the enemy wrecks.
dalman and shadoo are probs right in that if you jumped in with / after your supers, there would have been a lot more pl wrecks. Until your supers jumped in there was barely a white wreck on the field and a load of yellow ones, after about 30 seconds of your supers jumping in, a lot of us were dead or dying.
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Farham
Gallente The Fimbriani Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: Farham on 31/12/2010 01:42:11 It must be nice having your expensive loses paid for in full by your enemy before the fight .
Zing!  Not hacking it in 0.0 since 2006
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LadyScarlet
Minmatar Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:45:00 -
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So who flipped the quarter and got the titan re spawn this time    
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Daos Leghki
Caldari Paxton Industries -Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:53:00 -
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I enjoyed shooting something else than structures and I thank PL and NC for making this possible. Fight was enjoyable (in particular the winning part) even tho lag was pretty bad. In about 90 minutes I made 27 shots and 7 doomsdays.
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Shander Maxum
Gallente The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:55:00 -
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I just want to say this is a refreshingly civil thread and very gracious on the side that took the heavier losses.
Sounds like a fight that songs will be sung about for ages. Cheers all around
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.12.31 01:56:00 -
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So guise I heard PL rolled everyone tonight, C/D ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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BobbiDaBuilder
Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2010.12.31 02:02:00 -
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So how many tech moons did the NC get back???
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