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captain foivos	Posted - 2011.01.02 02:39:00 - [31] Posting alts make great snipers. Originally by: CCP Zulu You're assuming I read threads before I turdpost in them :)
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.01.02 02:43:00 - [32] Originally by: Goremageddon Box Originally by: Tres Farmer This user is on your block list. wut? I like you too, babe support Public Idea Tracker \| 24hr PLEX
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2011.01.02 02:48:00 - [33] Originally by: De'Veldrin I always post with this character. I'll leave it to you to decide if she's my main or not. The way you're always posting the words I wanted to say, about five minutes before I could, I'd swear you were my alt. -- [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]
Johnny Wander	Posted - 2011.01.02 02:48:00 - [34] When I use alts, I can show more of my faces to people, and use them for the types of topics I had in mind when making them. Like how I use this alt to post In-Character usually, but use a different alt for trolling/criticism and another for stating facts. ... And I Wander Away
iKill Giants The David Project	Posted - 2011.01.02 02:53:00 - [35] Utilizing alts enables me to portray several different literal characters to people, and then to make these characters act how I will them, each with their own purposes and personalities. For example, I use this alt for the stating of facts and knowledge, but another for when harsher statements are necessary, and yet another for posting in-character.
Demolishar	Posted - 2011.01.02 02:55:00 - [36] So I can post huge amounts of pseudo-intellectual bull**** about how I am better than you.
William Cooly Sol Enterprises	Posted - 2011.01.02 02:55:00 - [37] I make alts and then I make them work towards different "areas of expertise", using one for this type of reply and another for that type of reply, and overall I tend to get all the different ways to respond to an idea. Like how this alt sort of my trolling alt, but I have different alts for roleplaying and more serious discussion. - I troll stupid people.
OC 2av2	Posted - 2011.01.02 03:10:00 - [38] Originally by: Tres Farmer Originally by: OC 2av2 You are right, but not only for self-esteem people using alts. They use them for influence as well. Resent events with learning skills could explain it. Bunch of inpatient players in amount between 2-3 (Not to mention fact that only minority reads forums at all) persons of RL were using their army of alts to make view like most of community want rid of learning skills and they succeeded. Now everybody must accept that fact - we have no more learning skills. You see, everywhere in eve pvp happens and forums are not exception I think there would be more concern for industrial espionage/damage by other companies than this simple kind of thing (like posting competitor products or dooming eve because of xy). CCP has got account information and unless you use different email addresses AND IP's for your accounts ALL THE TIME they should have a pretty good picture if there is any influencing by players going on. Besides if CCP doesn't want something they have the option to run the influencing themselfes with forum-alts AND/OR just ignore the screaming. As I consider people on both sides of the fence equally dedicated I would assume the efforts will even out in the end and you get alt supported stuff for such controversial stuff as learning skills on both sides. It's like companies paying both democrats and republicans equally. Yea, you are right about espionage and stuff for other companies, and I agree with you (again!) about CCP having e-mails, IP's and such, but in this particular situation, CCP did not check of those. Situation was very banal: some few inpatient players just ****ed off one of CCP dude and CCP have decision made. It was like annoying kid that drills brain of his parents to buy him a bike and the parents bought it just for god sake to get some rest from their annoying kid. To be fair I DONT CARE about those learning skills now. I just answered for OP about how alts could be useful.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Green-Core The Obsidian Legion	Posted - 2011.01.02 03:14:00 - [39] Originally by: Mara Rinn Originally by: De'Veldrin I always post with this character. I'll leave it to you to decide if she's my main or not. The way you're always posting the words I wanted to say, about five minutes before I could, I'd swear you were my alt. Maybe I am your alt. On the other hand, you could be mine. Or maybe we're both alts of some evil mastermind bent on twisting the forums into a horrible trap for the unwary. Now my head hurts. Thanks. --Vel I'm more of a care-badger.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2011.01.02 03:21:00 - [40] Originally by: Johnny Wander When I use alts, I can show more of my faces to people, and use them for the types of topics I had in mind when making them. Like how I use this alt to post In-Character usually, but use a different alt for trolling/criticism and another for stating facts. Reminds me. Now that i've deleted him after a mod took action against posting binary here, i can admit MACRO OVERLORD was a character of mine. Although any relatively intelligent people would have suspected that. I had originally planned on keeping this guy 'in character', but gave up on that after awhile. He's now my all-purpose forum alt. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.

masternerdguy Gallente Meerkat Maner	Posted - 2011.01.02 03:26:00 - [41] Originally by: Goremageddon Box Originally by: masternerdguy besides sockpuppets which are extremely effective, you can use trolling alts to troll without risking your account. ccp can see your alt, so you risk your account regardless, it only brings non defamatory regards to your main oh you misunderstand me. im talking about other accounts for trolling.
Kalle Demos Amarr Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2011.01.02 03:30:00 - [42] So for the sake of things is the forum theory true? People are more than likely not going to speak as they are in their own skin, ie your main & in person in real life? Damn all this time I thought you would troll in rl too, it would be funny to see the outcome of a situation when a troll says a meme to someone after something major. Random guy says "holy ** you just ran over that old lady!" Troll says "cry moar nub, umad?" <Police arrests you> Troll says "what is this, I dont even" Originally by:** Kool StoryBro <--- Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed. Random forum moments <0>
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2011.01.02 03:38:00 - [43] Originally by: Kalle Demos So for the sake of things is the forum theory true? People are more than likely not going to speak as they are in their own skin, ie your main & in person in real life? That applies to how many people use the net in general, not just forums. Look at the game itself. Safe to assume something like 75% of the playerbase is your average timid human in day to day life, but in game they're all attitude and insults. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
flapjack mcghee	Posted - 2011.01.02 04:30:00 - [44] Your alliance loses seven titans in two days and you're too ashamed to post on your main. In my case using an alt is similar to caging a lion and poking it with a stick.
Karn Velora	Posted - 2011.01.02 04:32:00 - [45] Originally by: Kalle Demos How does it benefit you? I am not bothered, I am just curious why one would feel the need to create an alt for the sake of posting Unless you are creating a **** load of alts for the sake of replying to your thread Well, there's many benefits - main one which is hiding. Hiding can be good if you are a <beeeeeeep> involved in <beeeeeep>. Hiding can also be good because a lot of OTHER people are <beeeeeeep>. Once, back when I was young, I made a rather impopular suggestion on the forum (...regarding the removal of learning skills and look how that turned out 4 years later. I win.) - and we got wardecced by three corps within the hour. Sad truth is, people are <beeeeeeep>. My ceo at the time kindly explained to me that if I ever post anything every again with my main... yeah. As for me, I kind of always post on this alt - not because I give a crap, but rather because I'm using the ingame browser, the forum defaults me to this char, and the in-game browser for mac is bugged so I can't use the drop down menu to select char.
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2011.01.02 04:39:00 - [46] Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Kalle Demos So for the sake of things is the forum theory true? People are more than likely not going to speak as they are in their own skin, ie your main & in person in real life? That applies to how many people use the net in general, not just forums. Look at the game itself. Safe to assume something like 75% of the playerbase is your average timid human in day to day life, but in game they're all attitude and insults. And this is my problem with Facebook and other things that ecourage people to link a real person to a comment. In my opinion this stifles diaglogue and keeps people from postulating about things that could possibly be true but they are usure of. Floating those type of ideas allows people to share other pieces of a puzzle together.. perhaps confirming a sneaky suspicion somoen might have.... sort of a incremental whistle-blowing that is stifled. An example: If you worked for a hospital as a nurse and had posts out there criticisingg the saftey policy of one hostpital that you worked at, even if it proved true, if looking for a job in the future would be harder as managment would be scared that you might be inclined to air anytihng conroversal that you see which could cost them real money in liablity law suits. Even without the suits, it would be dangerous for you to propse solutions to the health care mess because they might not look right to profit orientated managers that will be making hiring decisions... I'm firmly for an internet that has 90% of stuff untrue but allows me to here about things that I would never have heard about without anonomity in that extra 10%. You can debunk things that you hear that are undtrue.. but you can't read the minds of people who never shared information that you'd have liked to have but they held back giving.
Madam Forumalt	Posted - 2011.01.02 06:56:00 - [47] To have completely random and obvious trolly names. Understandable ---------------------------------------- Garbled Nonsense Your post^
Caldari Citizen2323256	Posted - 2011.01.02 07:08:00 - [48] There are many Caldari Citizens of which I am one. I am unique and original and also main. Honest.
AFK Cloaker Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2011.01.02 07:12:00 - [49]
Syllein	Posted - 2011.01.02 09:08:00 - [50] There are many reasons to use an alt, example: i) To get around corp/ alliance posting rules. ii) To avoid giving away intel to potential enemies (especially if you frequent topics relating to fittings, tactics etc.) iii) To maintain an "in character only" policy if you are a dedicated role-player, with your main only posting in IC chats. iv) To avoid the " my E-peen is bigger than yours" arguments when debating a point. v) Because sometimes you just got to troll and losing posting privileges sucks. vi) Cowardice. vii) AFK Cloaker (although not as funny as it used to be).

Musashi IV	Posted - 2011.01.02 12:24:00 - [51] I use alts all the time to post. Each one has its own personality. Some even have split peraonalities.
TimMc Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.	Posted - 2011.01.02 13:43:00 - [52] Originally by: Syllein There are many reasons to use an alt, example: i) To get around corp/ alliance posting rules. ii) To avoid giving away intel to potential enemies (especially if you frequent topics relating to fittings, tactics etc.) iii) To maintain an "in character only" policy if you are a dedicated role-player, with your main only posting in IC chats. iv) To avoid the " my E-peen is bigger than yours" arguments when debating a point. v) Because sometimes you just got to troll and losing posting privileges sucks. vi) Cowardice. vii) AFK Cloaker (although not as funny as it used to be). i) CAOD is full of ***gotry anyway. No one wants to post there. ii) I've posted loads of faction fits with this char (my only char). So far no one has hunted me down. Then again, half of my fits are EFT theorycraft. iii) Roleplaying is gay. iv) I am fairly confident in my epeen, but I am well aware there are thousands of better players than myself. You don't have to respect anyone for having an 'epeen'. v) this I can support lol. Haven't been banned for trolling yet, but its not the only thing I do. vi) I'm probably a bit of a coward irl, but its only pixels here. I've had people wave to me in local, sometimes hunt me, because they recognise me from forums.
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2011.01.02 14:05:00 - [53] Edited by: Omara Otawan on 02/01/2011 14:06:29 Originally by: TimMc ii) I've posted loads of faction fits with this char (my only char). So far no one has hunted me down. Then again, half of my fits are EFT theorycraft. Its not so much about being a loot pinata, but about some random recognizing your character, and then realize you posted the fit you are flying as well as the tactics used in S&M. Digging up fittings on killboards takes its time, its much more inconvenient if the only thing they have to do is remember "oh wait, thats the guy that was rambling about how great his rail merlin is". Edit: Also, it tends to give a chuckle when people bring up the usual "do you even fly that ship, where is your kilboard record" while they have like 500 kills total to their name
TimMc Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.	Posted - 2011.01.02 14:27:00 - [54] Edited by: TimMc on 02/01/2011 14:29:32 Originally by: Omara Otawan Edited by: Omara Otawan on 02/01/2011 14:06:29 Originally by: TimMc ii) I've posted loads of faction fits with this char (my only char). So far no one has hunted me down. Then again, half of my fits are EFT theorycraft. Its not so much about being a loot pinata, but about some random recognizing your character, and then realize you posted the fit you are flying as well as the tactics used in S&M. Digging up fittings on killboards takes its time, its much more inconvenient if the only thing they have to do is remember "oh wait, thats the guy that was rambling about how great his rail merlin is". Edit: Also, it tends to give a chuckle when people bring up the usual "do you even fly that ship, where is your kilboard record" while they have like 500 kills total to their name heh. Check my skillpage, I can fly almost everything. I commonly check battleclinic when I am solo, its fairly accurate although it is missing a few hundred kills from my corps killboard. You can also find out fits from losses on bc. I don't remember anyones fits from forums though. I do tend to 'farm' a few russians who I know always complex fit their ships. Other than that I don't know anyones fits. Main reason I don't care about people knowing my fits is because my expensive fits tend to be supported, as I use them for bait.
Serpents smile	Posted - 2011.01.02 14:32:00 - [55] Sh*tty forum kept defaulting back to this character instead of my main, I gave up.
Syllein	Posted - 2011.01.02 16:37:00 - [56] Originally by: TimMc i) CAOD is full of *gotry anyway. No one wants to post there. Corp and Alliance posting rules can cover more than just CAOD. Some corps may have rules covering the discussion of fits/ tactics/ C&P/etc. Quote: ii) I've posted loads of faction fits with this char (my only char). So far no one has hunted me down. Then again, half of my fits are EFT theorycraft. Example: Part of my procedure when war-decced is to garner as much intel on the enemy as possible. Through the forums and killboards you can get some very nice gems...Who the FC's are, who habitually flies E-war/ Logi/ bait. What ships are used and the preferred fits. What tactics that particular corp likes to employ and so on. Sometimes the amount of info out there is staggering. Quote: iii) Roleplaying is gay. Each to their own. You pay your money, you play the way you want. Quote:** iv) I am fairly confident in my epeen, but I am well aware there are thousands of better players than myself. You don't have to respect anyone for having an 'epeen'. More aimed at those who for whatever reason feel that knowing someone's killboard stats is important when debating some aspect of the game. As if they need to know this before deciding whether to argue a point or not. Either you have a point and are prepared to argue it, or you don't. Having to rely on "my super-leet stats mean my argument is better than yours regardless of any other evidence to the contrary" is laughable. Spend enough time in F&I and you'll see what I mean.
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2011.01.02 20:16:00 - [57] Originally by: Syllein More aimed at those who for whatever reason feel that knowing someone's killboard stats is important when debating some aspect of the game. As if they need to know this before deciding whether to argue a point or not. Either you have a point and are prepared to argue it, or you don't. Having to rely on "my super-leet stats mean my argument is better than yours regardless of any other evidence to the contrary" is laughable. Spend enough time in F&I and you'll see what I mean. Just because I can't allow this refuting of a red-herring to be left unaswered (the implication that those that favore kill/death data of pilots be recorded and shared means its because of epeen reasons only) I'd lose all interest in the game without the kill-mails , especialy the details of the name of the pilot killed and his corp and alliance at the time. I wouldn't emo-quit.. i'd lose interest and never have gotten really hooked in the first place.. The kill mails create a history... a virutal world without a history , without player associatiions being documetned etc.. well it would feel more like a console game where all is forgotten when the machine is turned of... (I said "more" not entirely.. everything in the world tends to be shades of grey with vairous steps upon the continuim.. think vectors) I also would lose a lot of interest without local and I' would enjoy the game more if local showed the pilots corp and alliance name without needing to click on each one... I would get that much more flavor of the populations of various areas as I went through them..the virtual world aspect would be richer because of it.
Kalle Demos Amarr Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2011.01.03 08:44:00 - [58] Why do people even bother comparing kills and losses or what corp / alliance you are in, is the mmo world really that insecure? Originally by: Kool StoryBro <--- Originally by: CCP Spitfire Spam post removed. Random forum moments <0>
bff Jill	Posted - 2011.01.03 09:29:00 - [59] Because this would be a silly name for a pod pilot, but its a glorious name for forum posting.
Diomedes Calypso	Posted - 2011.01.03 09:38:00 - [60] Originally by: Kalle Demos Why do people even bother comparing kills and losses or what corp / alliance you are in, is the mmo world really that insecure? Why is college football more interesting when you compare the relative records of the differnt teams,, discuss the prospects of new recruits given their high school numbers,, weigh the value of larger number of yards gained against weeker competition than the yards a running back in playing against tougher competition got? A console game is about skilled competition in a bout.. this sort of persitent virtual reality is more akin to a football season.. or even more, how a fan could compare realitve seasons of many teams over many years, and the players that popped to note on various teams over the decades... stats dont' tell everything.. is Debron James as good as Kobe without a championshship ? etc. Killboards give us ways to relate and understand the various parties even though certainly the numbers don't me anything in raw form.. invdividuals will need to parse whether what value they do or dont' have to them.



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