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Tippia
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Minermemememe
you dont but I think CCP has a different opinion
CCP has seen a constant increase in subscriptions for the last 7 years. They're not complaining.
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 09/01/2011 11:49:08
Originally by: Minermemememe
Not to you maybe but by themselves.
Doubtful.
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Looking at the PC MMO pie, looking at how HUGE their slice is...
Yes, it's insanely large for being something that's not following the mainstream, isn't it?
Oh, and as was pointed out above: bigger ≠ better. In fact, it's far more likely that bigger = not niche = unfocused and generic mush.
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Minermemememe
Braveheart says it best "To CCP, for the longest time you have been feeding off scraps from Longshanks(WOW) table, that you have forgotten your god-given right for something better"
You're assuming that CCP are eating the same thing as WoW. They aren't, so the analogy doesn't work.
You see, the games you're comparing don't really share markets, so there are no left-over scraps from one that the other would wantà
Look. It's ok for you not to like EVE, but that's just because you don't like the genre it's in. That doesn't mean that the game should be removed and redone to fit a genre it's not in ù it means you should find a game that's in a genre you like. I don't suppose you go around saying that Counterstrike should stop feeding from the scraps off of Farmville's table ù after all, they are both games with fresh produce in them (wellà at least in CS Italy)?
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Posted - 2011.01.09 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Archbeholder
Wow got best pvp, best pve, best... everything!
Hillarious. You're almost as funny as the OP. 
You just need to tweak the delivery a bit.
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Posted - 2011.01.09 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ben Alman
So it isn't really necessary to strife for High subscription numbers (apart from more epeen i guess^^)
àand since CCP get their epeen from things like "biggest $$$-equivalent virtual bank heist" and "largest PCU" and "instances? pffà n00bs!", they've long since unsubscribed from the viagra mailing lists. 
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Posted - 2011.01.09 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Dragonmede
Oh pleez somebody tell me where the wormhole entrance to WoW Space is so that I can bubblecamp it, or at least scorch it closed?
Or just smartbomb it.
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Posted - 2011.01.10 09:43:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 10/01/2011 09:46:07
Originally by: Minermemememe
"They will never grow to the size of WOW", that is like WOW. So you're content by being the garbage guy for the rest of your life? What country do you live in? I never seen so much defeatism, no hope for the future, being content with the miserable state that you live in?
Again, wrong analogy.
WoW is the menial-task average-joe wageslave.
EVE is the devil-may-care adrenaline junkie you see in fancily edited X-named TV shows who spend all day throwing themselves off of powdery-snow mountain tops (or sand dunes or ocean waves or cityscapes) all across the word with various odd and wondrous pieces of locomotive tech strapped to themselves, who spend all evening wooing large-busted chalet girls or [insert geographically equivalent imagery] and who then spend all nightsà doing other thingsà Who knows where they get the money, and who cares? It's great entertainment and they're having the time of their lives.
The large mass are not defeatist ù they're already defeated, and the most thrilling comparable thing they have to look forward to is a generic-brand watery lager at an alp-themed steakhouse. Oh, I suppose some of them feel a great thrill filling out expense reports ù they might be able to squeeze an extra $5 out of the company and no-one will know! The fact that there's a crapton more of them doesn't much improve their miserable lot in life.
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Posted - 2011.01.10 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Iamien
Because WoW is the only title that Blizzard has....
It's their only MMO.
What he's asking you to do is think about how many people they'd lose from WoW if they created World of [some other IP of theirs] with the same universal appealà
Comparing CCP and Blizzard doesn't work because Blizzard goes for that universal appeal, whereas CCP does not. The numbers become incomparable because they measure completely different things.
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Posted - 2011.01.10 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Iamien
Do you really believe that CCP is making a FPS with persistent battlefields instead of the standard "12v12 or "20v20" instanced battlefields?
Why not?
Originally by: Archbeholder
EVE+dust+wod=75k subscriptions vs wow=12kk
At least use proper numbers and orders of magnitude. 
If you're going to argue with the wrong numbers, then we might as well state outright that EVE is a bigger game than WoW and is therefore better.
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Posted - 2011.01.10 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Archbeholder
Ok let's say we lose those 50% of 300k(wikipedia to the rescue) and instead gain 500k more or so. 800k>300k ?
And that's just it ù it wouldn't gain 500k more because those people wouldn't leave their current game just to come to another game that is just like it. This has already been tried by the numerous different-world MMOs that have been launched the last couple of years. They all failed exactly because they tried to attract those 500k you're talking about by being the kind of game they supposedly likedà
The reason EVE has survived is exactly because it doesn't go for that same-as-everone-else market, but rather for the ones that want a game like EVE. So why would they want to be like everyone else, when that would only mean they lose the ones they've already attracted and most likely won't attract anyone else (since they already have so much to choose from).
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Not to mention getting rid of those who enjoy/accept scamming griefing is always good for business.
Not if your business is to make money from people who enjoy/accept scamming.
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Posted - 2011.01.10 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Dhaul
I read the OP and thought "surely everybody knows this is trolling" but no, it got 5 pages of posts. What is wrong with you people?
Because it doesn't particularly matter if the OP is trolling or not ù someone will honestly think the way he does and be just as wrong without the silly intent. So it's basically a case of arguing with them by proxy.
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Posted - 2011.01.11 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Archbeholder
Does THIS look like picking 10 flowers?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLZJRHClFvU
Tbh, yes. It's much the same thing.
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Posted - 2011.01.11 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Khoni Honsu
I for one have left Eve with my 4 subscribed accounts and intend to never ever return
Stuff?
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Posted - 2011.01.11 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Goose99
Eve is the only mmo like this
àand that's why it shouldn't and doesn't need to change.
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