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Minermemememe
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:22:00 -
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Edited by: Minermemememe on 09/01/2011 11:23:33
Eve has the makings of a killer MMO. Very nice gameplay mechanics, it is set in space which appeals to a lot of people, and the bigger my ship becomes, the shinier it gets.
People don't like dying. especially in this MMO because the cost of dying is obscene. WOW has proved that the hardcore grind mentality wont get u a lot of subscribers. Still this mmo has been designed around this failed MMO mechanic and I suppose that there is nothing that they can do about it now. They got caught designing this MMO in the oppossite way when the wow behemoth arrived, so they got clobbered hard. 350k subs compared to wow's 13 million?
Also, aside from the grind design, the real reason why subs never go into the wow numbers is because unlike other MMOs out there, this once actually caters to griefers. I guessed whoever design this thing think its fun to throw level 1 guys in an arena with level 85s. lol.
There's also so many possibilities that a new player can get his azz kicked without him ever learning that there is more to the game. Picture this, new player comes in and is still doing tutorials. Someone invites him to a corp and since he wants to be friendly, he joins up. Now, as it happens, that corp has war declarations from a lot of pvp hardcore guilds out there who would love nothing more than to go to newbie tranining ground and blow the living crap out of the newbies. So this newbie, who's still in tutorial, don't know whats going on. he only knows some guy with the red star keeps blowing him up every time he hits the undock button.
He gets mad and quits the game since he thinks thats all there is to it, getting blown up by players with red star in their names. Not only that he tells every one he knows of the awful experience that he's had. Word of mouth quickly will give the impression that eve is a pvp hardcore, i-get-blown-up-everytime-i-undock game. Too bad guys, you have a great space graphic game here and good gameplay mechanics but you missed it big time in the new player experience.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:26:00 -
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Quit corp?
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Vabjekf
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:27:00 -
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Good job. I made it to the second paragraph before i realize you were just trolling.
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KaarBaak
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:28:00 -
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So, in order to generate the new subscribers, EvE needs to completely change it's mechanics and shed all of it's current subscribers who like the game the way it is?
Sounds ****ing brilliant.
KB
Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. --Herodotus, Histories
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OneTimeAt BannedSpank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:39:00 -
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I didn't read the op and it's 99% likely to be a troll anyway but we don't need more people in game anyway so who cares.
Protip: Wait till your portrait has generated on the servers before posting 'with experience'
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Mastin Dragonfly
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Minermemememe
350k subs compared to wow's 13 million?
Bigger =! Better
Or do you think Justin Bieber is the best thing to ever happen to music as well?
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Minermemememe
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: OneTimeAt BannedSpank
I didn't read the op and it's 99% likely to be a troll anyway but we don't need more people in game anyway so who cares.
Protip: Wait till your portrait has generated on the servers before posting 'with experience'
you dont but I think CCP has a different opinion
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Serge Bastana
Gallente
GWA Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:43:00 -
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And a good portion of the alleged 13 million WoW subscriptions are either gold farmers or 13 year olds who confuse the 'Ding' when they level up with the 'Ding' of the microwave door opening when dinner is ready.
I knew this was a troll when I read the post title.
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Minermemememe
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly
Originally by: Minermemememe
350k subs compared to wow's 13 million?
Bigger =! Better
Or do you think Justin Bieber is the best thing to ever happen to music as well?
Are you $&($&@($ kidding me? when is 450k subs superior to 13 million. Can you multiply, understand numberS?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Minermemememe
you dont but I think CCP has a different opinion
CCP has seen a constant increase in subscriptions for the last 7 years. They're not complaining.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Vabjekf
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Serge Bastana
And a good portion of the alleged 13 million WoW subscriptions are either gold farmers or 13 year olds who confuse the 'Ding' when they level up with the 'Ding' of the microwave door opening when dinner is ready.
I knew this was a troll when I read the post title.
Well to be fair a good portion of the EVE subscription are just alt accounts =P
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Minermemememe
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Minermemememe
you dont but I think CCP has a different opinion
CCP has seen a constant increase in subscriptions for the last 7 years. They're not complaining.
Not to you maybe but by themselves. Looking at the PC MMO pie, looking at how SMALL their slice is...
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Serge Bastana
Gallente
GWA Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:47:00 -
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You must have mistaken us for people who care.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 09/01/2011 11:49:08
Originally by: Minermemememe
Not to you maybe but by themselves.
Doubtful.
Quote:
Looking at the PC MMO pie, looking at how HUGE their slice is...
Yes, it's insanely large for being something that's not following the mainstream, isn't it?
Oh, and as was pointed out above: bigger ≠ better. In fact, it's far more likely that bigger = not niche = unfocused and generic mush.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Mastin Dragonfly
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Minermemememe
Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly
Originally by: Minermemememe
350k subs compared to wow's 13 million?
Bigger =! Better
Or do you think Justin Bieber is the best thing to ever happen to music as well?
Are you $&($&@($ kidding me? when is 450k subs superior to 13 million. Can you multiply, understand numberS?
There are way more fastfood restaurants than 5 star restaurants as well...
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Minermemememe
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 09/01/2011 11:49:08
Originally by: Minermemememe
Not to you maybe but by themselves.
Doubtful.
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Looking at the PC MMO pie, looking at how HUGE their slice is...
Yes, it's insanely large for being something that's not following the mainstream, isn't it?
Oh, and as was pointed out above: bigger ≠ better. In fact, it's far more likely that bigger = not niche = unfocused and generic mush.
Braveheart says it best "To CCP, for the longest time you have been feeding off scraps from Longshanks(WOW) table, that you have forgotten your god-given right for something better"
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:52:00 -
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your trolling is bad and you should feel bad
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Serge Bastana
Gallente
GWA Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:52:00 -
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So how much do you earn working for Blizzard and trolling other games' forums then?
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Peter XZ
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:54:00 -
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Mark my words, we'll have 13 million subs when Incarna becomes operational, MARK MY WORDS O YE OF LITTLE FAITH.
(Unless of course incarna turns out to be a favourite of weirdo perverts who get excited by imaginary avatars, Then WOW just may get a 13th Millionth and 1st subscriber; Me :)
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Minermemememe
Braveheart says it best "To CCP, for the longest time you have been feeding off scraps from Longshanks(WOW) table, that you have forgotten your god-given right for something better"
You're assuming that CCP are eating the same thing as WoW. They aren't, so the analogy doesn't work.
You see, the games you're comparing don't really share markets, so there are no left-over scraps from one that the other would wantà
Look. It's ok for you not to like EVE, but that's just because you don't like the genre it's in. That doesn't mean that the game should be removed and redone to fit a genre it's not in ù it means you should find a game that's in a genre you like. I don't suppose you go around saying that Counterstrike should stop feeding from the scraps off of Farmville's table ù after all, they are both games with fresh produce in them (wellà at least in CS Italy)?
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:58:00 -
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0/10
Seriously, you're not even trying...
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Serge Bastana
Gallente
GWA Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.09 11:58:00 -
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It's like saying the countryside should be paved over simply because cities have bigger populations. Actually there are scumbag property developers who have those very ideas, but thankfully, like you, they're wrong :)
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Archbeholder
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Posted - 2011.01.09 12:00:00 -
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Wow got best pvp, best pve, best... everything!
The only thing eve players can be proud of is being unique snowflakes who dont play mainstream game oh and best griefing possibilities.
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Iraherag
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Posted - 2011.01.09 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Serge Bastana
It's like saying the countryside should be paved over simply because cities have bigger populations. Actually there are scumbag property developers who have those very ideas, but thankfully, like you, they're without power to actually do something :)
Sorry, had to fix it...
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Senex Legio
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.01.09 12:02:00 -
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I can't even imagine Eve with 13 million people logged in. Actually it'd be more like a tenth of that, so 1.3 million.
Really?
Oh, I can't even begin to list the ways Eve would be broken.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.09 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Archbeholder
Wow got best pvp, best pve, best... everything!
Hillarious. You're almost as funny as the OP. 
You just need to tweak the delivery a bit.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Serge Bastana
Gallente
GWA Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.09 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Iraherag
Originally by: Serge Bastana
It's like saying the countryside should be paved over simply because cities have bigger populations. Actually there are scumbag property developers who have those very ideas, but thankfully, like you, they're without power to actually do something :)
Sorry, had to fix it...
Either works for me :)
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Malen Nenokal
The Nightshift
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Posted - 2011.01.09 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Minermemememe
so they got clobbered hard. 350k subs compared to wow's 13 million?
350k subs is not failing for an MMO.
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Ben Alman
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Posted - 2011.01.09 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Ben Alman on 09/01/2011 12:12:45
Well pvp is really not tha great in WoW but I don't know anything that could be a danger to WoW on the PvE side.
But what I wanted to say is that an MMO developer once said (I think he was from the SWToR team).
"Once an MMO passes a certain amount of minimum subscribers it is profitable and wont get more profitable because for new subscriptions you need more servers support etc."
So it isn't really necessary to strife for high subscription numbers (apart from more epeen i guess^^)
Edit: and why does this forum have to have its "REPort" button where every other one has its "REPly to" button  Sorry guys
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.01.09 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ben Alman
So it isn't really necessary to strife for High subscription numbers (apart from more epeen i guess^^)
àand since CCP get their epeen from things like "biggest $$$-equivalent virtual bank heist" and "largest PCU" and "instances? pffà n00bs!", they've long since unsubscribed from the viagra mailing lists. 
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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