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Cutter Isaacson Minmatar Hollow World Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.01.09 18:05:00 - [1] Having just spent a good hour messing around on the new Carbon character creator on SISI, it struck me that we can change virtually every aspect of our physical appearance EXCEPT our height. Now, since CCP have worked hard to achieve a sense of realism with this new piece of software, it strikes me as short sighted to not include a variable for height. After all, I can walk 5 minutes up my street and meet 30 people all of varying stature. Now I am aware that CCP do not want people to go crazy with an idea like this and making characters that are 2 foot high and 6 feet wide, or similarly ones who are 17 feet high and 2 feet wide. What I propose is a max height differential of 1 foot. Now I realise that doesn't sound much, but it should suffice to give a more realistic range of heights. The minimum height would be locked at 5 feet and 5 inches, going to a locked maximum of 6 feet and 5 inches. Im aware that this doesn't cover anywhere near the range of real life, but I feel it would be much more realistic than the current limitations. The difference in height could be increased or decreased in 2 inch increments giving 7 differing height values for each character, or if thats not enough, then perhaps 1 inch increments could be employed. Hopefully a change such as this would appease the players who like to be as unique as possible without providing too much extra work for CCP to carry out. Please vote as you see fit, hopefully I don't get flamed into oblivion Originally by: Johnny Dexter bombs everyone to Narnia
Passageway	Posted - 2011.01.09 18:07:00 - [2] Supported :)
Shougyin Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2011.01.09 18:09:00 - [3] Edited by: Shougyin on 09/01/2011 18:14:01 Agreed!!
Biced	Posted - 2011.01.09 18:11:00 - [4] Good idea.
T' Elk Unlawful Combatants	Posted - 2011.01.09 18:12:00 - [5] I came, I saw, I like. +Support -------------------------------------------------- A verbis ad verbera - From words to blows
Kobi Junzo	Posted - 2011.01.09 18:18:00 - [6] Supported!
CSMotherload CentraI Spike	Posted - 2011.01.09 18:20:00 - [7] We have a winnar
Darminion	Posted - 2011.01.09 19:14:00 - [8] Support!!!
Blackjack EvE	Posted - 2011.01.09 19:24:00 - [9] +1
AWACS Sgt A.W.A.C.S	Posted - 2011.01.09 19:24:00 - [10] supported .. wonder if we'll see dwarf sized ppl in stations .. hehe

Dannerkongen	Posted - 2011.01.09 19:29:00 - [11] aye! and i want bigger hands! coz big hands means a big ....
Mzee Machado	Posted - 2011.01.09 19:31:00 - [12] +1 Maharaba
Magnus Avalon	Posted - 2011.01.09 19:36:00 - [13] Very good point supported
Freelancer117	Posted - 2011.01.09 19:38:00 - [14] yeah make me a head taller then Cutter so I can glomp him easier kidding, it makes sense supported
Don Pellegrino Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.01.09 19:40:00 - [15] Supported, but this should be in the Test Server Feedback subforum. ____________________________________________
Cutter Isaacson Minmatar Hollow World Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.01.09 19:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Don Pellegrino Supported, but this should be in the Test Server Feedback subforum. I will make a post there as well at some point. However this is an idea for adding new options, not altering something that already exists. There is currently no option for changing height, I am proposing one be added. Originally by: Johnny Dexter bombs everyone to Narnia
JamesCLK Lone Star Exploration	Posted - 2011.01.09 19:55:00 - [17] +1 Why? Because I got high... I love you too Mike
Naga Tokiba	Posted - 2011.01.09 19:57:00 - [18] Supported
Wercheg	Posted - 2011.01.09 20:01:00 - [19] Supported
Terazul	Posted - 2011.01.09 20:06:00 - [20] Really, this is a no-brainer. I don't buy CCP's excuses about this particular feature. It's better to have it in there even if it's minimal than to not have it at all. It's unacceptable to have everyone at the exact same height, especially in a supposedly "next-gen" game.

Wraithik	Posted - 2011.01.09 20:16:00 - [21] Supported. Females characters should (usually) be shorter than males ect. Height is an important dynamic.
Laxyr Chamsin Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.01.09 20:31:00 - [22] Oh I would so love to read the answer to a petition covering this. "By design" is what it would most likely say. And from behind the office doors would travel a voice.. "Why the hell didn't we think of that" Regards, Lax
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2011.01.09 20:59:00 - [23] Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 09/01/2011 20:59:55 Originally by: Laxyr Oh I would so love to read the answer to a petition covering this. "By design" is what it would most likely say. And from behind the office doors would travel a voice.. "Why the hell didn't we think of that" Regards, Lax They thought of it and decided against it. It's not like it is a secret, and people have been upset about it since it was announced. IIRC the reason given was something like "Height variations would require a much more complex animation system and extra work. We think those resources are better spent elsewhere". Males will be bigger than females though. I'll still support this, since even limited height variation would be a nice thing to have.
Cutter Isaacson Minmatar Hollow World Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.01.09 22:21:00 - [24] Edited by: Cutter Isaacson on 09/01/2011 22:22:14 Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 09/01/2011 20:59:55 Originally by: Laxyr Oh I would so love to read the answer to a petition covering this. "By design" is what it would most likely say. And from behind the office doors would travel a voice.. "Why the hell didn't we think of that" Regards, Lax They thought of it and decided against it. It's not like it is a secret, and people have been upset about it since it was announced. IIRC the reason given was something like "Height variations would require a much more complex animation system and extra work. We think those resources are better spent elsewhere". Males will be bigger than females though. I'll still support this, since even limited height variation would be a nice thing to have. I'm struggling to see how this could be a problem, I certainly can't see how it would cause any issues with animation. It is simply amtter of scaling. Think of it almost as a zoom function. The animation should not need to be tweaked and surely if women and men are different heights already, then the ability to change scale and keep things consistent already exists. The original issue that CCP had, and please correct me if I'm wrong, was that people were asking for a massive range of different heights, ranging from the very small to the stupidly huge. Such massive differences would of course lead to animations for walking and environment interaction needing a total overhaul and thus a great deal of extra work. I cannot see how a 1 foot height differential could lead to the same issues. Clearly skeletal/musculature resizing whilst keeping proportions relative is possible, as you can already do this on the version available on SISI. If you increase the characters weight, everything else scales along with it. If you move the positioning of the hips, the posterior and adjoining musculature shifts as well. Why then, when such subtle changes are possible (and we are talking fractions of a millimetre here) is it so hard to implement an incremental height change? Originally by: Johnny Dexter bombs everyone to Narnia
klyeme The Mind's Eye Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.01.09 23:20:00 - [25] You should be able to change height not width (as long as it stays realistic)
PLEXIN CARGO	Posted - 2011.01.10 00:40:00 - [26] SUPPORTED!!!
Crazy KSK	Posted - 2011.01.10 01:35:00 - [27]
Vertisce Soritenshi SHADOW WARD OWN Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.10 01:55:00 - [28] Supported so long as the difference in hight isn't too extreme. ****es me off to see characters that are shin high and others that cant fit through a proper doorway... So yes...max high diff of 1 foot is perfect. Sig.Learning skills vote.
Zoloft Rx	Posted - 2011.01.10 03:14:00 - [29]
Ghost Delta141	Posted - 2011.01.10 07:05:00 - [30] Absolutely agree Cutter! Good call mate! Its going to look ******ed if they leave it! CCP you guys do a brilliant job, obviously! We all play your game! So keep up the good work and do walking in stations properly the first time, EVE is based around realistic ideas and environment...not very realistic to have everyone all the same height! "example" ...and correct me if im wrong- Brutors are meant to be fairly big and taller than any of the others as part of their genetics right?...cant have them being the same height as a gallente then can we? Again "please" fix this issue CCP?



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