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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.09 18:05:00 -
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Having just spent a good hour messing around on the new Carbon character creator on SISI, it struck me that we can change virtually every aspect of our physical appearance EXCEPT our height.
Now, since CCP have worked hard to achieve a sense of realism with this new piece of software, it strikes me as short sighted to not include a variable for height. After all, I can walk 5 minutes up my street and meet 30 people all of varying stature. Now I am aware that CCP do not want people to go crazy with an idea like this and making characters that are 2 foot high and 6 feet wide, or similarly ones who are 17 feet high and 2 feet wide.
What I propose is a max height differential of 1 foot. Now I realise that doesn't sound much, but it should suffice to give a more realistic range of heights. The minimum height would be locked at 5 feet and 5 inches, going to a locked maximum of 6 feet and 5 inches. Im aware that this doesn't cover anywhere near the range of real life, but I feel it would be much more realistic than the current limitations.
The difference in height could be increased or decreased in 2 inch increments giving 7 differing height values for each character, or if thats not enough, then perhaps 1 inch increments could be employed. Hopefully a change such as this would appease the players who like to be as unique as possible without providing too much extra work for CCP to carry out.
Please vote as you see fit, hopefully I don't get flamed into oblivion 
 Originally by: Johnny Dexter
bombs everyone to Narnia
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Passageway
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Posted - 2011.01.09 18:07:00 -
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Supported :)
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Shougyin
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2011.01.09 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Shougyin on 09/01/2011 18:14:01
Agreed!!
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Biced
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Posted - 2011.01.09 18:11:00 -
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Good idea.
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T' Elk
Unlawful Combatants
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Posted - 2011.01.09 18:12:00 -
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I came, I saw, I like. +Support
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Kobi Junzo
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Posted - 2011.01.09 18:18:00 -
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Supported!
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CSMotherload
CentraI Spike
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Posted - 2011.01.09 18:20:00 -
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We have a winnar
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Darminion
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Posted - 2011.01.09 19:14:00 -
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Support!!!
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Blackjack EvE
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Posted - 2011.01.09 19:24:00 -
[9]
+1
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AWACS Sgt
A.W.A.C.S
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Posted - 2011.01.09 19:24:00 -
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supported .. wonder if we'll see dwarf sized ppl in stations .. hehe
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Dannerkongen
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Posted - 2011.01.09 19:29:00 -
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aye! and i want bigger hands! coz big hands means a big ....
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Mzee Machado
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Posted - 2011.01.09 19:31:00 -
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+1
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Magnus Avalon
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Posted - 2011.01.09 19:36:00 -
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Very good point
supported
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Freelancer117
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Posted - 2011.01.09 19:38:00 -
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yeah make me a head taller then Cutter so I can glomp him easier 
kidding, it makes sense supported
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Don Pellegrino
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.01.09 19:40:00 -
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Supported, but this should be in the Test Server Feedback subforum.
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.09 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Don Pellegrino
Supported, but this should be in the Test Server Feedback subforum.
I will make a post there as well at some point. However this is an idea for adding new options, not altering something that already exists. There is currently no option for changing height, I am proposing one be added.
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
bombs everyone to Narnia
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JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration
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Posted - 2011.01.09 19:55:00 -
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+1
Why? Because I got high...
I love you too Mike 
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Naga Tokiba
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Posted - 2011.01.09 19:57:00 -
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Supported
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Wercheg
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Posted - 2011.01.09 20:01:00 -
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Supported
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Terazul
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Posted - 2011.01.09 20:06:00 -
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Really, this is a no-brainer. I don't buy CCP's excuses about this particular feature. It's better to have it in there even if it's minimal than to not have it at all. It's unacceptable to have everyone at the exact same height, especially in a supposedly "next-gen" game.
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Wraithik
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Posted - 2011.01.09 20:16:00 -
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Supported. Females characters should (usually) be shorter than males ect. Height is an important dynamic.
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Laxyr
Chamsin Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.01.09 20:31:00 -
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Oh I would so love to read the answer to a petition covering this.
"By design" is what it would most likely say.
And from behind the office doors would travel a voice.. "Why the hell didn't we think of that"
Regards, Lax
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.01.09 20:59:00 -
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Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 09/01/2011 20:59:55
Originally by: Laxyr
Oh I would so love to read the answer to a petition covering this.
"By design" is what it would most likely say.
And from behind the office doors would travel a voice.. "Why the hell didn't we think of that"
Regards, Lax
They thought of it and decided against it. It's not like it is a secret, and people have been upset about it since it was announced. IIRC the reason given was something like "Height variations would require a much more complex animation system and extra work. We think those resources are better spent elsewhere". Males will be bigger than females though.
I'll still support this, since even limited height variation would be a nice thing to have.
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.09 22:21:00 -
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Edited by: Cutter Isaacson on 09/01/2011 22:22:14
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 09/01/2011 20:59:55
Originally by: Laxyr
Oh I would so love to read the answer to a petition covering this.
"By design" is what it would most likely say.
And from behind the office doors would travel a voice.. "Why the hell didn't we think of that"
Regards, Lax
They thought of it and decided against it. It's not like it is a secret, and people have been upset about it since it was announced. IIRC the reason given was something like "Height variations would require a much more complex animation system and extra work. We think those resources are better spent elsewhere". Males will be bigger than females though.
I'll still support this, since even limited height variation would be a nice thing to have.
I'm struggling to see how this could be a problem, I certainly can't see how it would cause any issues with animation. It is simply amtter of scaling. Think of it almost as a zoom function. The animation should not need to be tweaked and surely if women and men are different heights already, then the ability to change scale and keep things consistent already exists.
The original issue that CCP had, and please correct me if I'm wrong, was that people were asking for a massive range of different heights, ranging from the very small to the stupidly huge. Such massive differences would of course lead to animations for walking and environment interaction needing a total overhaul and thus a great deal of extra work. I cannot see how a 1 foot height differential could lead to the same issues.
Clearly skeletal/musculature resizing whilst keeping proportions relative is possible, as you can already do this on the version available on SISI. If you increase the characters weight, everything else scales along with it. If you move the positioning of the hips, the posterior and adjoining musculature shifts as well. Why then, when such subtle changes are possible (and we are talking fractions of a millimetre here) is it so hard to implement an incremental height change?
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
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klyeme
The Mind's Eye
Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.01.09 23:20:00 -
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You should be able to change height not width (as long as it stays realistic)
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PLEXIN CARGO
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Posted - 2011.01.10 00:40:00 -
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SUPPORTED!!!
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Crazy KSK
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Posted - 2011.01.10 01:35:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2011.01.10 01:55:00 -
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Supported so long as the difference in hight isn't too extreme. ****es me off to see characters that are shin high and others that cant fit through a proper doorway...
So yes...max high diff of 1 foot is perfect.
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Zoloft Rx
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Posted - 2011.01.10 03:14:00 -
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Ghost Delta141
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Posted - 2011.01.10 07:05:00 -
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Absolutely agree Cutter! Good call mate! Its going to look ******ed if they leave it! CCP you guys do a brilliant job, obviously! We all play your game! So keep up the good work and do walking in stations properly the first time, EVE is based around realistic ideas and environment...not very realistic to have everyone all the same height! "example" ...and correct me if im wrong- Brutors are meant to be fairly big and taller than any of the others as part of their genetics right?...cant have them being the same height as a gallente then can we? 
Again "please" fix this issue CCP? 
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2011.01.10 07:50:00 -
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Approve, I already suggested that several times at the feedback thread. Just I think range would be better in the 160 to 200 cm and, to top the cake, a certain control on shoulder & hip width should be allowed (people are both tall and short, thin and wide).
Although we could get used to an army-of-clones, one-pod-size-fits-all Incarna, it would be quite a loss from excellence. 
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stu007
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.01.10 09:35:00 -
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Supported
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Jagga Spikes
Spikes Chop Shop
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Posted - 2011.01.10 10:17:00 -
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acceptable compromise.
hopefully, one day we could get bodies with variable proportions (wide, tall, shorter/longer arms/legs). but for now, global scale will do.
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Jovan Geldon
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.01.10 11:57:00 -
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No good reason for it not to be there in the first place. Very much supported.
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moose crap
Urkrathos Corp
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
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Posted - 2011.01.10 15:23:00 -
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Supported
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.01.10 15:23:00 -
[36]
hm.. i didn't support this one already, shame.
support
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Stegas Tyrano
GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2011.01.10 15:39:00 -
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I don't understand why they havn't put this in already?
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Shaadowlurker
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Posted - 2011.01.10 15:57:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Shaadowlurker on 10/01/2011 15:59:24
supported
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Kaito Aran
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Posted - 2011.01.10 15:58:00 -
[39]
Yes please
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Kaizera
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Posted - 2011.01.10 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kaizera on 10/01/2011 16:03:06
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D Program
Ambient Fleet
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Posted - 2011.01.10 16:14:00 -
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Is good.
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Ammzi
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Posted - 2011.01.10 16:15:00 -
[42]
Yes. Supported
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Vlad Drakon
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Posted - 2011.01.10 16:20:00 -
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Supported 
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Jayzeus II
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Posted - 2011.01.10 17:32:00 -
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supported
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Trigo
Caldari
Ordo Dark Star
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Posted - 2011.01.10 17:38:00 -
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Good idea
Supported
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Do it yourself minmatar thong; duct tape. Underwear and wax in one.
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2011.01.10 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: Dav Varan on 10/01/2011 17:39:01
+1
Bigger range thou
5ft to 7ft
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.10 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Dav Varan
+1
Bigger range thou
5ft to 7ft
I decided on a 1 foot height variance because its a little more realistic than 5' and 7' people. It should also make it easier for CCP to code with regards to character movement animation. |
Sinister Dextor
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Posted - 2011.01.10 17:41:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.10 17:55:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Sinister Dextor
No Dwarves in Eve. Not supported.
5' 5" is not considered a dwarf sir, the worldwide average minimum height is, I believe 5' 5". Hence the reason I chose that as the minimum for EVE. Fail troll fails. 0/10
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
bombs everyone to Narnia
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malkisania
Executive Intervention
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.01.10 18:06:00 -
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i want to be short and fat, supported
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Rokoz
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Posted - 2011.01.10 18:19:00 -
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+1
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OC 2av2
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Posted - 2011.01.10 20:06:00 -
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Definitely - 100% support!
Moreover, it should allow adding more weight to character.
Allow character to have fat bumps on top of belt-line on both sides of body.
And give for character possibility to have paunch that is pendulous out on top of belt-line (you know - the result of drinking much beer ;]] )
I'd love to have one for my character very much. Just like in RL 
Fatty double chin could be a bonus 
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OC 2av2
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Posted - 2011.01.10 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sinister Dextor
No Dwarves in Eve. Not supported.
When did you look at yourself in the mirror last time?
When did you look at people around you last time?
I mean not "scanning" as everybody does usually looking at people around.
When I am saying, "look", I mean it!
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.01.10 20:45:00 -
[54]
Support.
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.10 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: OC 2av2
Definitely - 100% support!
Moreover, it should allow adding more weight to character.
Allow character to have fat bumps on top of belt-line on both sides of body.
And give for character possibility to have paunch that is pendulous out on top of belt-line (you know - the result of drinking much beer ;]] )
I'd love to have one for my character very much. Just like in RL
Fatty double chin could be a bonus
Lol, I much appreciate your vote and your enthusiasm. The only problem with the idea of adding things like extra weight is that given the Lore that is already in place regarding pod pilots, it is highly unlikely that one of them would have anything other than a reasonable physique, and while I am aware that this is not entirely realistic I can appreciate why CCP would choose not to include it.
One of the main objections (apparently) to including variable heights was that CCP (apparently) claimed that it would require extra coding and lots more man/woman hours to modify the animation of our pilots. Too large an increase or decrease in height and body weight would require those pilots to walk in a different manner, as each character has a "weight" which affects the motion of their bodies as they walk and the way in which their indvidual limbs move.
This is why my proposal is limited to just a simple 1 foot variance in stature. It is, as far as I can work out, the minimum amount of coding change for the maximum impact. This is what I hope will push CCP to change their collective mind about introducing this option in a final iteration of Carbon character creation before the realease of Incarna part one. It won't require a change to the portrait we will already have created and we would just be able to go back in and alter our characters height.
As someone famous once said "the simplest ideas are sometimes the best". Im hoping this proves to be the case.
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2011.01.10 21:05:00 -
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doesnt really make sense for it not to be there so /supported
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Marita Steiner
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Posted - 2011.01.10 21:10:00 -
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Leveaux
Gallente
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.01.10 22:09:00 -
[58]
Supported
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Lyla Valmont
Caldari
Executive Intervention
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.01.10 23:00:00 -
[59]
Supported!
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Lex Luthor321
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Posted - 2011.01.10 23:15:00 -
[60]
supported
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snifty111
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Posted - 2011.01.11 01:28:00 -
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supported
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Vardec Crom
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Posted - 2011.01.11 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Vardec Crom on 11/01/2011 01:32:30
Supported.
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Calistra Vacanos
Gallente
Executive Intervention
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.01.11 01:37:00 -
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Get it sorted CCP...please :)
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Alabugin
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Posted - 2011.01.11 01:55:00 -
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I support this.
This is what we need, as it will be a great big step for this game. Such a concept will bring in THOUSANDS of more subs.
Which means more people for me to pew pwn. 
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Selinate
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2011.01.11 02:01:00 -
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I had a WTF moment when you said the new character creator doesn't have height.
Seriously, this should be implemented. That's just a bit stupid if it isn't...
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.01.11 03:15:00 -
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I find it very hard to really care about this proposal.
FW is broken, neutral remote reps mechanics are horrible, killmails are broken, all of low sec could use some attention, corp ui and functions could be much better etc.
Dont' get me wrong sure why not have this? Put this on the to do list, but please this shoud be low on the list.
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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2011.01.11 03:47:00 -
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Edited by: Selinate on 11/01/2011 03:47:27
Originally by: jackaloped
I find it very hard to really care about this proposal.
FW is broken, neutral remote reps mechanics are horrible, killmails are broken, all of low sec could use some attention, corp ui and functions could be much better etc.
Dont' get me wrong sure why not have this? Put this on the to do list, but please this shoud be low on the list.
Incursion is coming soon, and Incarna eventually. Until then, I'm sure that most of these things you mentioned are going to wait anyway. Might as well take ask them to take care of Incursion and Incarna's flaws while it's still being developed.
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Aeronwen Carys
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Posted - 2011.01.11 09:36:00 -
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supported
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.01.11 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate
Edited by: Selinate on 11/01/2011 03:47:27
Originally by: jackaloped
I find it very hard to really care about this proposal.
FW is broken, neutral remote reps mechanics are horrible, killmails are broken, all of low sec could use some attention, corp ui and functions could be much better etc.
Dont' get me wrong sure why not have this? Put this on the to do list, but please this shoud be low on the list.
Incursion is coming soon, and Incarna eventually. Until then, I'm sure that most of these things you mentioned are going to wait anyway. Might as well take ask them to take care of Incursion and Incarna's flaws while it's still being developed.
This just delays when they will work on actual game play issues. How long? Who knows?
I wish they would stop fiddling around with incarna, spit it out, and start working on the actual game play again.
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Kinuko
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Posted - 2011.01.11 19:17:00 -
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Supported
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liten
Sukuuvestaa Internal Security
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Posted - 2011.01.11 22:08:00 -
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/Signed
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Selinate
Amarr
Wardens of the Void
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Posted - 2011.01.11 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: jackaloped
Originally by: Selinate
Edited by: Selinate on 11/01/2011 03:47:27
Originally by: jackaloped
I find it very hard to really care about this proposal.
FW is broken, neutral remote reps mechanics are horrible, killmails are broken, all of low sec could use some attention, corp ui and functions could be much better etc.
Dont' get me wrong sure why not have this? Put this on the to do list, but please this shoud be low on the list.
Incursion is coming soon, and Incarna eventually. Until then, I'm sure that most of these things you mentioned are going to wait anyway. Might as well take ask them to take care of Incursion and Incarna's flaws while it's still being developed.
This just delays when they will work on actual game play issues. How long? Who knows?
I wish they would stop fiddling around with incarna, spit it out, and start working on the actual game play again.
Well, too bad. It is what it is. Gotta deal with it.
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.12 11:45:00 -
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not sure if numping is alowed but here goes anyway
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
bombs everyone to Narnia
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Cathy Drall
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.01.12 12:16:00 -
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Of course!
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Turelus
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2011.01.12 14:31:00 -
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Supported.
The RPer in me wants to see this.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.01.12 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Selinate
Originally by: jackaloped
Originally by: Selinate
Edited by: Selinate on 11/01/2011 03:47:27
Originally by: jackaloped
I find it very hard to really care about this proposal.
FW is broken, neutral remote reps mechanics are horrible, killmails are broken, all of low sec could use some attention, corp ui and functions could be much better etc.
Dont' get me wrong sure why not have this? Put this on the to do list, but please this shoud be low on the list.
Incursion is coming soon, and Incarna eventually. Until then, I'm sure that most of these things you mentioned are going to wait anyway. Might as well take ask them to take care of Incursion and Incarna's flaws while it's still being developed.
This just delays when they will work on actual game play issues. How long? Who knows?
I wish they would stop fiddling around with incarna, spit it out, and start working on the actual game play again.
Well, too bad. It is what it is. Gotta deal with it.
I can still voice my own opinion . But yeah if the masses want ccp to spend resources/time on Space Barbie that is what they will do. IÆm just pointing out that the ccp resources arenÆt infinite. So anytime you vote for one thing that means something else is not being worked on.
I suppose I am the only one who wishes they would work on game mechanics instead of making our avatars pretty.
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Ghost Delta141
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Posted - 2011.01.12 15:16:00 -
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Supported
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.13 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: jackaloped
I can still voice my own opinion . But yeah if the masses want ccp to spend resources/time on Space Barbie that is what they will do. IÆm just pointing out that the ccp resources arenÆt infinite. So anytime you vote for one thing that means something else is not being worked on.
I suppose I am the only one who wishes they would work on game mechanics instead of making our avatars pretty.
Right, I think thats just about enough derailing thankyou. May I suggest you go back through all the old info on the development of EVE, go ask a Dev or a GM, ask some of the older players or even email CCP themselves and ask one question "What has been your vision for EVE from the beginning?" or I can save you all that time and effort and tell you right now. From the very beginning EVE was destined not only to be an "internet spaceships" game, but a fully realised sci-fi universe, with as many layers to it as possible. CCP started to build this universe with pew pew in outer space and once their income was assured and a playerbase established, the plan moved ahead.
Work began on the next step in creating this sci-fi universe, its development title being "Walking in Stations" a rather bland name for what is essentially the other half of this game world. Now 5 years on and with a real deployment name of "Incarna" we are almost there, the universe for us is almost complete. To you Incarna seems to be fluff and nonsense, you think it is taking time away from fixing other things that you deem more important, yet what you fail to realise is that the people working on Incarna were hired to do just that.
No-one responsible for bug hunting, patch deployment or any of these other areas you deem important have been re-tasked to work on Incarna. It has its own team of people and its own section of the budget and it doesn't interfere with anything else. Your bugs will be hunted, your fixes deployed and the world will keep turning on its axis. So calm down, read up on how CCP/Whitewolf operate, realise that "the masses" don't tell CCP how to spend its money or its resources and for god sake cheer up.
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
bombs everyone to Narnia
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Kyoko Sakoda
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.01.13 08:07:00 -
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Yeah, a bit weird, innit?
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Posted - 2011.01.13 08:51:00 -
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I support idea!
If our character, shortly, ceases to be a simple portrait, the Height choice will be necessary for him and also it is necessary to think of other parts of a body, such as hands, feet, a neck.
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Eamiela
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Posted - 2011.01.13 09:22:00 -
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Support this idea
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Spirulina Laxissima
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Posted - 2011.01.13 09:51:00 -
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Maybe a 1' range, but different height for different races.
IMHO:
Gallente - normal, females shorter (todays average)
Caldari - taller, males & females have same range (they're ****s bred for war)
Minmatar - shorter, males & females have same range (hardy folk)
Amarr - varied, females shorter (many systems/races subjugated)
Or something like that without going the elves/dwarfs path...
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Jennifer Starling
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Posted - 2011.01.13 10:15:00 -
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More diversity can only be good, the editor already has quite limited options ..
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Tekei
The Scurvy Corsairs
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Posted - 2011.01.13 11:00:00 -
[84]
Supported!
I doubt they'll implement it but I'd love to see more ways to tell characters apart from a distance or in a crowd. Height would certainly help, if we could modify our posture would be even better.
I'm gonna stop dreaming now :)
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Jenny Hawk
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.01.13 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Apsidia
If our character, shortly, ceases to be a simple portrait
... whenever that is ...
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Glyken Touchon
Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2011.01.13 11:28:00 -
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yes, even if the 1 foot was only broken into 3 options (short, normal, tall).
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.01.13 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: jackaloped on 13/01/2011 14:13:20
Originally by: Cutter Isaacson
Originally by: jackaloped
I can still voice my own opinion . But yeah if the masses want ccp to spend resources/time on Space Barbie that is what they will do. IÆm just pointing out that the ccp resources arenÆt infinite. So anytime you vote for one thing that means something else is not being worked on.
I suppose I am the only one who wishes they would work on game mechanics instead of making our avatars pretty.
No-one responsible for bug hunting, patch deployment or any of these other areas you deem important have been re-tasked to work on Incarna. It has its own team of people and its own section of the budget and it doesn't interfere with anything else. Your bugs will be hunted, your fixes deployed and the world will keep turning on its axis. .
Wow you are really misinformed. You must have somehow missed the csm minutes where basically ccp told the players representatives that just about every area of spaceships will have to wait for 18 months while they work on incarna and dust. And I am not just talking about bugs û indeed I donÆt think anything I mentioned was a bug.
Read the dev blog that followed that showed how few resources at CCP were dedicated to spaceships. It tried to do damage control but basically gave the truth. Very few resources were put toward spaceships especially considering that what they counted toward eve also included dust.
Originally by: Cutter Isaacson
So calm down, read up on how CCP/Whitewolf operate, realise that "the masses" don't tell CCP how to spend its money or its resources and for god sake cheer up.
You should do the reading. Read the minutes from the first meeting between CCP and csm. Go ahead and tell me how many times they said they were delaying things 18 months to work on this?? I dare you.
And the whole point of assembly hall is to tell ccp what the players want. It appears lots of players want ccp to continue to dedicate their resources to cosmetic issues of how they look prancing around stations. IÆm sorry I donÆt care if I am a foot taller or shorter. I like the game they made with spaceships but it could be allot better, ccp agrees but they are waiting until this incarna stuff is done.
Yes I know they have a whole science fiction world planned from the beginning. It has dust for the out of space ship fighting. And incarna for strutting around and playing dressup. But lots of people would prefer they not abandon the spaceship part of the game any longer. ThatÆs my opinion.
Get incarna out but for god sakes 18 months (likely 2years) of abandoning the space ship game is long enough. Give the space ships at least 18 months of dev time before they turn back to the space Barbie part.
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.13 16:30:00 -
[88]
Jack you have made your point, please stop derailing this thread. I posted this to find support for my idea, not for people to complain about how their stuff isnt getting dealt with.
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
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Majestic Moose
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Posted - 2011.01.13 17:31:00 -
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Clementina
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.01.13 20:03:00 -
[90]
I am going to support this. Height is one of the basic attributes of a person, it has to be supported.
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Soden Rah
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.01.14 00:48:00 -
[91]
This is important enough to justify the effort involved.
/supported
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Originally by: CCP Tuxford
bugger, I need to have a closer look at this menu function 
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J'Rela
Black Lotus Heavy Industries
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2011.01.14 02:30:00 -
[92]
CCP is trusting us with breasts, but don't feel they can trust us with character height?
Supported, though I'd want something a little closer to the full range of human variability than a mere twelve-inch spread. First, let's go metric so we're understood internationally, and then let's set it at about 150 to 200 centimeters (just under five foot nothing to just over six foot six) That's a fairly normal range, with people at the top end looking short in the NBA, and people (esp. women) at the low end being a little tall for a freak show.
I realise characters of varying heights are hard to convincingly animate, and I am very glad CCP took this difficulty into account, but it would be more jarring (in my opinion) to have a sea of same-height characters than ones who swung their legs a touch fast or slow.
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Dusenman
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Posted - 2011.01.14 03:48:00 -
[93]
Great Idea.
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Mars Theran
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Posted - 2011.01.14 04:24:00 -
[94]
Awesome idea.. was expecting it to be in there already; when I tested it out on SISI. I was actually rather surprised to find it was not; though, I can't say I was terribly disappointed, while I was playing with all the other cool features.
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ShadowGod56
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Posted - 2011.01.14 04:40:00 -
[95]
i am 6'5 irl. i demand my eve ego be not an inch shorter!
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tsutowato
Capping the Uncap
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Posted - 2011.01.14 09:36:00 -
[96]
Supported!
And very good call mate!
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Biomass MeNOW
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Posted - 2011.01.14 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Biomass MeNOW on 14/01/2011 14:56:16
I'll give this one a thumb's up. Proportions would remain uniform across all heights, with a variance as short as, say, 4' to 6'6" as with our current environment.
Likewise, make the 'base height' variable by specific race. Taller or shorter depending on the RP background of each race.
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Aeronwen Carys
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Posted - 2011.01.15 03:27:00 -
[98]
bump to the front
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Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Spikes Chop Shop
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Posted - 2011.01.15 12:19:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Biomass MeNOW
Edited by: Biomass MeNOW on 14/01/2011 14:56:16
I'll give this one a thumb's up. Proportions would remain uniform across all heights, with a variance as short as, say, 4' to 6'6" as with our current environment.
Likewise, make the 'base height' variable by specific race. Taller or shorter depending on the RP background of each race.
"average" might be affected by bloodline. but absolute min/max limits should be the same for everyone. also, 4 feet is too short. proportions would be wrong.
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Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.01.15 12:28:00 -
[100]
CCP has deemed height adjustments to fall under the vanity aspect. You will be able to do many things like adjust your height and add tatoos and such via microtransactions.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.01.15 15:40:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Marlona Sky
CCP has deemed height adjustments to fall under the vanity aspect. You will be able to do many things like adjust your height and add tatoos and such via microtransactions.
Source? Link?
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Certified Household Sweeping Consulting
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Posted - 2011.01.16 00:08:00 -
[102]
There should be definetly height asjustment. It should be dependant on race/bloodline/gender though, within some limits to prevent everyone being midgets even if those are cute.
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Cutter Isaacson
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.16 11:37:00 -
[103]
and another small bump to the front
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
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Usagi Hino
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Posted - 2011.01.16 12:40:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Usagi Hino on 16/01/2011 12:40:42
Supported
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liten
Sukuuvestaa Internal Security
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Posted - 2011.01.17 00:49:00 -
[105]
How has CCP not replied to this yet, even just a small comment??
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linodrick
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Posted - 2011.01.17 00:55:00 -
[106]
supported
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Apsidia
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Posted - 2011.01.20 22:03:00 -
[107]
Originally by: liten
How has CCP not replied to this yet, even just a small comment??
While, they hold development of Incarna in a secret.
Probably, they simply already do something similar or have simply silently imported this idea to plans and don't submit signs of interest.
Though, maybe, they have counted it not as serious either bad idea or desire to receive the next pink pony.
Probably, at them it is simple, there is no time for it. 
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Aphser
Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.01.20 23:16:00 -
[108]
Supported, game needs more enslaved midgets... 
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Otto Schultzky
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Posted - 2011.01.21 03:09:00 -
[109]
+1
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Saju Somtaaw
Department of Defence
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2011.01.21 04:02:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Saju Somtaaw on 21/01/2011 04:02:13
Agree, but maybe allow from 5-6'6" with Brutors being taller as thats one of their traits.
edit:helps to check "support"
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.24 00:51:00 -
[111]
bump to the front page i think
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
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Angelica Sarenit
Unicorn Enterprise
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2011.01.24 00:52:00 -
[112]
/Signed!
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Moolti
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Posted - 2011.01.24 01:02:00 -
[113]
+ 1,000,000
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.01.29 07:29:00 -
[114]
one last bump
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
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Wolodymyr
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Posted - 2011.01.29 09:18:00 -
[115]
Just to be clear... adding a height slider will change NOTHING about the game AT ALL. Even your portrait will look EXACTLY the same, with NO discernible difference between short or tall character pictures. This is a COMPLETE waste of time if ever there was one.
...+1 supported.
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Aeronwen Carys
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Posted - 2011.03.22 10:02:00 -
[116]
epic bumpage
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Cutter Isaacson
Minmatar
Hollow World Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.03.26 20:00:00 -
[117]
pushing back to the front page, please read the edit in the OP.
Originally by: Johnny Dexter
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herot
Fortunis - Redux
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Posted - 2011.03.30 16:07:00 -
[118]
Yes please!
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May Yarsche
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Posted - 2011.03.30 16:14:00 -
[119]
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