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DUFFMANX
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Posted - 2005.01.21 16:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Velios
We do not have a solo claim on the region - no one does. We just aim to regulate 0.0 GW so that it does not turn into a free for all. As I have stated on many occasions now. ALL foundation corps were invited to talks with us on their return from the shattered Fade Union in the hope of a new era for us all.
The rest is history.
** when I sat Free for all I mean that only respectable, non pirate corporations who would wish to contribute to the stability of the region and work closely with other corps dwelling there too.
If ur sentaments were really true to ur word Velios then why was it Drilla giving the order to have regular inhabitants removed from GW. Im not at home atm to find the log but i believe it was Drilla that said every1 not in the keiretsu had to leave GW 1 way or another and that if the wished to join the keiretsu they would have to leave for up to 2 weeks b4 membership talks would begin. Why should the residents be removed for wot they r there for, just basic living and having fun and why is so important that the Keiretsu be joined. To me its just another way of controlling an area and smothing out any posibility for others to have something to do in game.
There is plenty in GW but ye r plain and simple greedy. Most that venture to GW r for ratting and a few miners. Open space doesnt mean any1 and every1 will come down, alot that do wont be able to defend themselves or the miners that may come down. If pirate and looters came down then there would be an excuse to fire on something.
Co-operation was possible but not at the price ye wanted. How long till CA like taxes would be introduced, orders like attacking SE or possibly xetic as an expmple would be brought into effect. Also ye claim ye r not pirates and r friendly to ex ca
but wot about the pirates working with ex ca atm in 'The Force of Evil'. Atm alot r roaming through GW and ye do nothing to them so u should choose and backup ur words wisely b4 u say anything.
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DUFFMANX
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Posted - 2005.01.21 19:31:00 -
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The difference is ur total lack of willingness to make sacrifices so all can be happy. I was fully confident that all sides work together but u fired on a friend and we retaliated in defence of them as ye would do the same. U also say u wanted full co-operation but refused to make any sort of decission with VIRII around and now its u admit u only have a grudge with William Dampier.
I dont care for personal vendettas or squabbles u had in past with VIRII, EGCO or whoever else u have a problem with. What i do have a problem with is u invited us to be part of a community that would help prosper GW but ur own intention by admission was b4 any1 could work together u wanted every1 else out first. That aint acceptable if u want ppl to be cooperative in a coomunity and u have to make allowances\comprimises for all to be happy and not go off in a gun totting hothead declaring everything that doesnt obey ur whim KOS.
It is quiet clear now after urself and Velios' last few posts that ye do not communicate well internally nevermind externally with each other. Velios agrees that residents were most welcome be part of community but u had another agenda. For all ur pos'es and mining ops goin on if u had accepted every1 else for what corp they were there would be no problems but greed is a factor in ur plans.
I believe that until ye (the keiretsu) actually learn to agree internally on policies that make the game and general living in GW bearable then ye souldnt be thinking of war coucils and such. This is the political crap that was the downfall by admission of ex ca members. As some1 said combined we would be a formidable entity but until ppl let past differences go and sit down and discusws the situations in a civilised manner than we shall go now further than a bloody war.
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DUFFMANX
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Posted - 2005.01.23 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shalmaneser ili
Originally by: lansha
Originally by: Shalmaneser ili
dude...ur an asshat
good to see all the time, effort and money that goes into education is put to use in such wonderful use of the english language!
you get your mommy to write ccp telling them you could play the game before you have milk and cookies for your supper?
see everyone can post BS why not keep personal attacks out of it?
before any flames, the above is another good use of english... sarcasm (or maybe just good ol' beer talk)
pot kettle black?
Dunno maybe u r the asshat Shal cos the way ur acting it starting to look that way.
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DUFFMANX
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Posted - 2005.01.31 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: DUFFMANX on 31/01/2005 11:27:39
OMFG ye r all a bunch of whiney b*thces and this constant bickering is the exact reason im pulling out of GW (personally not corp). Ye r argueing over stupid crap and when a big threat comes along all will be demolished in its path foundation and keiretsu alike.
Reality check ppl foundation kill keiretsu and vise versa and there have been costly losses on each side which takes time to replenish from. Ye the keiretsu were whining cos foundation members were mining to recover losses and keep fighting and broke the nap cos ye wanted all the ark in U3k all for yerselves. As for the foundation ive made my feeling clear privately to them why i leave.
This crap of nap this and break it 2 days l8r is ridiculous and completely insane, THIS IS A GAME AND POLITICS SHOULD NOT BE USED AND IT IS FOR FUN. Also yer past differences r so bloody annoying when ye bring them up "oh drilla did this with foyle and they backstabbed us", and form other side we got " well all the ex ca in the foundation ebay isk and never did their job in gw well so we got rid of them" Grow Up ye bunch of whining tw@ts.
I was quiet happy to work with either side for mutual benefit but cos of yer unwillingness to pust past and present differences behind ye that cant happen. Maybe when ye all grow a brain and evolve then ill come back to my home but for now enjoy working alone and indivually (yer alliances) gettin crushed alone.
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Posted - 2005.01.31 13:36:00 -
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Velios everything u wrote bout that nap is exactly why nothing will be gained from either side in the short term from either side. U can make all the nappies u want but if ye dont put past and present differences aside then both will fall. Ye can all make wotever accusations and proclimation u wish bout wot u havent lost and whoi u will beat but the fact is if ye dont work together all will loose. As i stated keiretsu r mainly europ players and foundation r mainly US players if ye joined together gw could be well defneded toghether .
As for the ark there is plenty for every1 in GW + alot of other crap to mine also. And also to the point of the pos well ye got a few and there loads of space for others so quit complaing bout that as its not like they can shoot accross the system and blow ur 1 up.
@ Tekra ur a tard, if u bothered to read my post ud see im not whining but stating why all this is futile when bigger threats r out there. If u pull ur head out of ur ass ull eventually realise all the battles = combined losses well into billions which mean an outside force will have as easier time taking gw from u.
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Posted - 2005.01.31 14:05:00 -
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Velios it may not be u personally or guys in ur corp but in the keiretsu. There is alot of past anamosity between ppl and they wont let it go and this is the cause of all the problems not placings of pos' or mining ark.
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Posted - 2005.01.31 17:22:00 -
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Tekra u obviously have no idea wot ur on abount but ill let u into a secret, my nose aint up any1's ass. Im quiet capable of speaking my mind and making decisions for myself. If u so wish to know where my loyalties ly then atm they ly with myself and my friends no1 else. As ive said i dont think either the keiretsu nor foundation have the ability to control GW alone and even ur Ceo Velios has admitted that it would have been a good thing us together but that atm isnt happening.
Ive told off the foundation leadership over stuff which my corp should have been privy to such as a joint ops channel that i did not know anything about till sunday when Haematite of BLC told me in ndq local. I also blew up at the fact there is a 'lack' or 'unwillingness' to do whats necessary to secure GW either by force or friendship. Im very ****ed off how alot of foundation members have acted in recent days and have shown as much greed as ye have done.
I think that answers ur point about where my nose is. I dont apologise for wot i say as at least im telling it straight out unlike others who make up bullsh*t scenarios to cause trouble. These are my views and as such have taken action by leaving GW, as for my corp well wot they do is under discussion for them.
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Posted - 2005.01.31 18:03:00 -
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Velios i wouldnt say u have been vindicated on how u acted but u had a right to be concerned. I do not know the terms of the nap as i was not online due irl issues and also i prolly wouldnt have heard cos i dont have ts but from wot u even said the agreement was made hastily and open to mis-conduct. I dont think all r like this but there are some and likewise goes for the keiretsu.
I have always considered myself and the corp to be respectful in general to all parties but this situation has got out of control. Even u must see the futility of ur hasty actions also in attacking the bsc hauler. To me a nap is a nap and there should be stipulations that would provoke either side into a situation like all r in now.
This is why i believe pure politics doesnt belong in a game and should have been a simple arangement and u must even agree to this somebit. Also id say u would agree that the restriction on mining is a poor excuse for want of a better word to launch an attack. Grand mining could have been restricted but not to effect that no1 could be mining. Also the fact a pos is next door it cannot fire at ye unless ye come to it and got bad standings. If ye ever learn to deal with each other in a civil manner then is when ye will make progress but until then every1 makes fool of themselves.
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