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Carniflex
StarHunt
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.01.12 12:26:00 -
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 Originally by: Erin Eraser
That seems a lot more profitable than empire missions. Am I missing something?
Not a lot more profitable. When doing both things in a effective manner you get about 10..15% better yield from chaining Sanctums (if you are not interrupted by hostiles) when compared to hi sec level 4 missions.
The key difference is that in the case of Sanctums it's all liquid isk you can spend immediately while part of the reward in the case of level 4 missions is LP that takes small amount of additional work for cashing in.
When you are doing them in effective manner neither of them is worth looting/salvagin (even with Noctis) as loot was nerfed a little while ago (mineral rich items were replaced by scrap metal in loot tables).
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Carniflex
StarHunt
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.01.13 08:54:00 -
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Edited by: Carniflex on 13/01/2011 08:59:47
I consider the trade/building etc., skills a separate profession from missionrunning. Ofc when you mix it all up you can claim astronomical numbers. For example running lev 2 missions somewhere in caracal, but scamming in Jita and then claiming how you be doing a billion / hour while missionrunning.
It basically boils down to opportunity costs - if you get your tags cheap you have option to run around right there and sell them few jumps out for x% of profits. When you use these tags to cash in LP the 'real' cost of them is what you could have gotten off market, not the amount of isk you spent on them.
But then again there are also people who find that the minerals they mine themself are free.
Mission rewards are bounties, agent rewards and LP. In some cases when you loot/salvage as you are doing the missions the items you get can be considered as part of mission reward as well.
Ofc where I agree is that it greatly helps to have other supporting skills as well for your isk/h as a character. But most of that isk/h is not a missionrunning one.
Edit: To clarify I am not saying your numbers are impossible. What I'm saying is that some of that isk/h is not a missionrunning one.
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Carniflex
StarHunt
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.01.13 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
High sec LP payout is capped at around 7K, so 100K LP/hours will require 14 missions with some of the best agents.
About 9k LP, but not all factions have L4Q17+ agents in sec 0.5 - besides those highest LP missions tend to be not particularly blitzable so more 'average' missions tend to be better LP wise. Plus added inconvenience of getting low sec missions now that agents love to send you across constellation borders as well.
About 7k LP per top missions is the ones I'm myself using, that are far enough from low sec to not have to decline missions too often.
On the subject of Sanctums vs Lev 4 hi sec missions. In lev 4 you can get lucky and manage to cash in your LP at excpetionaly good rate (altho those opportunities do not last long or cant take the volume), in Sanctums you can get lucky and get occasional faction spawn and/or escalation ot DED 10/10 complex. So I would say they are roughly equal within margin of error.
The key difference is that Sanctums are fountains of pure liquid isk in the economy while LP store is sort of kinda close to zero sum game as far as EVE economy is concerned.
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