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DrysonBennington Eagle's Talon's 8	Posted - 2012.08.17 14:45:00 - [1] - Quote Mothership "Synaptic pathway algorythm......100%" "Synaptic transference algorythm......100%" "Synaptic communication uplink......established" Most of you may or may not know that a game called HomeWord was the forerunner to EvE Online. Take a look and you see the similarities. Evacuees being stored in Cryo Beds ( Pods) A single entity controlling the actions of the ship through implants. Relic spawned three titles Homeworld, Homeworld:Cataclysm and HomeWorld Two that were major success stories. If you are into developing Home World Game environments like I am when you get into the nitty gritty of the .shp, .dist., . lod, etc. files you can see the embryo's from which EvE Evolved from nearly 13 years ago. If you want to see where EvE came from take a jump on over to Relic forums. If you want to access the mod pages just do a search for Dryson until you come to the Homeworld Mod section. Home World will also give you the chance to create your own system similar to Eve System. What we are trying to do is to rebuild the HomeWorld Series into the glorious Universe it once was. With all of the new tech such as the free to use Unreal UDK program that allows you to create your own games we are trying to breathe life back into this Relic by giving it a new feel similar to EvE Online but based upon the HomeWorld Series. Most of the HomeWorld fans do no like the thought of their Universe being made into a MMORPE like EvE Online. But If the Home World Universe could be incorporated into EvE Online as a newly discovered part of the Galaxy the union would breathe new life into both environments. Hopefully we can get enough volunteers to pilot her ships to make the comeback of Home World a success. "Hang on Sjet..." ..........................."Mothership.'
Karl Hobb Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium 500	Posted - 2012.08.17 14:47:00 - [2] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: Most of you may or may not know that a game called HomeWord was the forerunner to EvE Online. Never played it. Is that something like "hangman"? Doesn't sound at all like EVE. Nothing Found
FloppieTheBanjoClown The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective 2241	Posted - 2012.08.17 14:52:00 - [3] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: Most of you may or may not know that a game called HomeWord was the forerunner to EvE Online. Take a look and you see the similarities. As a long-time fan of Homeworld, I think you're completely wrong. There are very few similarities between Eve and Homeworld. The mechanics, the backstories, the physics...nothing is the same. They both happen in space, that's ALL. And they have that in common with a century of science fiction. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711
El Cid Campeador Exploding Squirrels 52	Posted - 2012.08.17 14:52:00 - [4] - Quote I vote no. It died, EVE survived. For a reason
Halete Echoes of Korgoth Initiative 396	Posted - 2012.08.17 14:54:00 - [5] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: Most of you may or may not know that a game called HomeWord was the forerunner to EvE Online. Take a look and you see the similarities. Yeah, stopped reading there. Sorry, but I completely disagree. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in.
FloppieTheBanjoClown The Skunkworks The Marmite Collective 2242	Posted - 2012.08.17 14:57:00 - [6] - Quote El Cid Campeador wrote: I vote no. It died, EVE survived. For a reason Yeah, that reason being that the Homeworld IP is tied up in a mess of mergers, closures, and transfers. HW3 would almost certainly be a commercial success, but it's unlikely to ever be made due to the problems with ownership of the franchise. The Skunkworks is recruiting. -áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1540711#post1540711
Cadfael Maelgwyn Immortals of New Eden Rebel Alliance of New Eden 162	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:06:00 - [7] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: Most of you may or may not know that a game called HomeWord was the forerunner to EvE Online. Take a look and you see the similarities Eh? Also, this is a very poor attempt at attempting to generate support for a dying (or already dead) series. I'd say "nice try", but it isn't even that. EDIT: DrysonBennington wrote: But If the Home World Universe could be incorporated into EvE Online as a newly discovered part of the Galaxy the union would breathe new life into both environments. This could not work, seeing as the New Eden galaxy is a completely separate galaxy, and we don't even know how far the Milky Way is, as the settlers made it to New Eden via wormhole. There's also the tiny matter of the original settlers of Earth radiating out from that planet using stargates, which Homeworld does not have. The Homeworld storyline does not match in the slightest. So this could definitely not work, sorry.
Anslo Black Horse Enterprises-International 155	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:11:00 - [8] - Quote How can you say there's absolutely no similarities between Eve and Homeworld aside from being in space? Hell even the pod pilot idea is similar in a few aspects. Not the pod sure, but controlling an entire ship through one individual. Give me a break...stupid elitists.
Cadfael Maelgwyn Immortals of New Eden Rebel Alliance of New Eden 162	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:13:00 - [9] - Quote Anslo wrote: How can you say there's absolutely no similarities between Eve and Homeworld aside from being in space? Hell even the pod pilot idea is similar in a few aspects. Not the pod sure, but controlling an entire ship through one individual. Give me a break...stupid elitists. Yeah, and that's just about the only similarity. There are many, many, many more differences.
Anslo Black Horse Enterprises-International 155	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:20:00 - [10] - Quote Cadfael Maelgwyn wrote: Anslo wrote: How can you say there's absolutely no similarities between Eve and Homeworld aside from being in space? Hell even the pod pilot idea is similar in a few aspects. Not the pod sure, but controlling an entire ship through one individual. Give me a break...stupid elitists. Yeah, and that's just about the only similarity. There are many, many, many more differences. Oh come off it, it's just a game and a fun idea. I would think FC's would like something what the OP is proposing pending it's very accurate...a good many conversion calculations would need to take place. It is, by and far, a daunting task, but doable and very much interesting. Go go OP!
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 2302	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:22:00 - [11] - Quote As has been stated, they aren't even remotely similar. You'd have a better argument comparing EVE to Imperium Galactica, FFS. In reality, EVE is closer to games like Freelancer, but still not very close (especially mechanically). TEST Alliance BEST Alliance
DrysonBennington Eagle's Talon's 8	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:23:00 - [12] - Quote Quote: How can you say there's absolutely no similarities between Eve and Homeworld aside from being in space? Hell even the pod pilot idea is similar in a few aspects. Not the pod sure, but controlling an entire ship through one individual. Give me a break...stupid elitists. You have to get into the source code side of the HW. It has various parameters such as falloff, optimal range, slotted weapons, armor ect. ect. ect. All of which are the same elements that make up EvE Oneline. The physics behind each game are roughly the same. You can use Slip Gates and Hyperspace to move your ships around across long distances. The same is true with the Cynosural. There are also Gravewell Generators similar to how Warp Bubbles work but in HW they stop a ship from moving at all. Open up the homeworld.big file with the BTG, background tool of the geeks and the same physics that are part of eve are there as well. In HW S'jet uses implants to control the function of the ship the same as the pilot does in EvE Online. The pilot in the Pod in EvE Online is how each ship is controlled. The only reason that crew exists is to preform actions that the pilot in the Pod is not able to. So yes both games mirror each other. You just have to notice the sudtle differences.
DrysonBennington Eagle's Talon's 8	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:24:00 - [13] - Quote Man how young are you people?
Sturmwolke 239	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:27:00 - [14] - Quote EVE was based on Elite, the precursor that spawned a genre. The "endless space", the trading, the system sec status, the stations, the space police (aka Concord), the bounty (which is forever broken for EVE), missions and a host of other features. The EVE logo resembles Elite's box art. It did not evolve from Homeworld, though I won't discount borrowed ship ideas e.g. the vertical Nalfgar ... which itself is could be borrowed from any number of sci-fi film like Star Wars. DrysonBennington wrote: Man how young are you people? That question applies to you too.
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 2302	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:28:00 - [15] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: Man how young are you people? Imperium Galactica is 2 years older than Homeworld, FYI. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance
Cadfael Maelgwyn Immortals of New Eden Rebel Alliance of New Eden 162	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:28:00 - [16] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: Man how young are you people? Implying your opponents are young/inexperienced/stupid = instant victory, amirite?
Medarr ZeroSec 16	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:29:00 - [17] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: Man how young are you people? What does age have to with anything ?
Anslo Black Horse Enterprises-International 155	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:29:00 - [18] - Quote I'd say not how young, but how old? Older people can be so set in their ways
Nyreanya Serenity Labs New Eden Research. 364	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:30:00 - [19] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: Man how young are you people? See sig. Not everyone thinks the same way you do. This doesn't automatically make them wrong.
Cadfael Maelgwyn Immortals of New Eden Rebel Alliance of New Eden 162	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:30:00 - [20] - Quote Anslo wrote: I'd so not how young, but how old? Older people can be so set in their ways They're usually like that for a reason.
Anslo Black Horse Enterprises-International 155	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:33:00 - [21] - Quote Nyreanya wrote: DrysonBennington wrote: Man how young are you people? See sig. It's not about being wrong, it's just stubbornly making flat out accusations about things just because "**** YOU." It's stupid, it's like people here try to be "hard-core" fans and refuse to see the other side at all, or even think outside the box and think how could they compare, say, story wise and not just freaking game play wise. To OP: If you want help, I'm willing to in anyway I can. I like both games and, unlike others here, I see that there are quite a few mirroring concepts. Let me know what I can do and mail me in game!
dethleffs Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 46	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:34:00 - [22] - Quote eve forerunner is elite. case closed. on another note: go play homeworld instead of eve.
DrysonBennington Eagle's Talon's 8	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:43:00 - [23] - Quote Quote: How can you say there's absolutely no similarities between Eve and Homeworld aside from being in space? Hell even the pod pilot idea is similar in a few aspects. Not the pod sure, but controlling an entire ship through one individual. Give me a break...stupid elitists. Morale Edit: Good idea OP, it's one hell of a task, but it could be pretty cool. I kind of see it as a simulator for large scale encounters between alliances and a way to see if certain fleet compositions work or not without just staring at numbers and calculators all day. Me Gusta. The only problem with HomeWorld Multiplayer is the game play is confined to one system or map. I having discussing with other HW Modders about being able to connect systems or maps together using either Slip Gates or Hyperspace Technology so ships could move around different systems in the Multi-player mode instead of crowding eight motherships into one map. If we can breach such an obstacle along with introducing planetary assaults where a person would have to assault a planet place bases to harvest resources to support the space based mission I think the Home World Series would be twice as fun as it had been before. So now instead of just worrying about losing your mothership you have to worry about planets that you conquered coming under attack from the enemy not only in the same system but in any of the five linked systems. The cool thing about HW is that you can design your ships, textures and logos to give it the feel that EvE Online does not. The only problem would be incorporating all of the custom ships into a single server. But with the RTS setting of the game itself there would be alot more options available because there would be all of the space taken up on the server that deals with ship fitting windows, POS, POS equipment ect. Another similarity between EvE and HW is that you can change the turrets out on your ship with something different by merely copying and pasting the various weapon data from one ship to another ship. Currently I have taken a scout ship that has small projectiles cannons....sound familar? And replaced them with Large Ion Cannons from an Ion Cannon Frigate and juiced the velocity up to 3000 ms. So if any one wants to give us a hand we could always use input from people on how a Mod or the actual game should be built we are always looking for ideas. The current Mod that I am working on involves 7 playable races that will have their own ship designs bonuses and negatives along with 11 sub races, Pirates and Dregs based off of the interaction between the seven main races. I'm not trying to take away fans or money from CCP. Just trying to breathe life back into a relic that would be the base of how CCP came to be.
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 2303	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:45:00 - [24] - Quote We get it, you liked Homeworld. No, EVE is not even kind of similar. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance
DrysonBennington Eagle's Talon's 8	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:45:00 - [25] - Quote Quote: eve forerunner is elite. case closed. on another note: go play homeworld instead of eve. Go back to the ghetto and keep your mouth to yourself. Did anyone one show up on your doorstep insulting you? Or can you merely only play a game and not develop one. Simple minded podder.
Cadfael Maelgwyn Immortals of New Eden Rebel Alliance of New Eden 162	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:45:00 - [26] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: Another similarity between EvE and HW is that you can change the turrets out on your ship with something different by merely copying and pasting the various weapon data from one ship to another ship. I'm pretty sure that if that takes a hack to achieve, it's not similar at all. EDIT DrysonBennington wrote: Quote: eve forerunner is elite. case closed. on another note: go play homeworld instead of eve. Go back to the ghetto and keep your mouth to yourself. Did anyone one show up on your doorstep insulting you? Or can you merely only play a game and not develop one. Simple minded podder. Did you really just say that?
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 2303	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:46:00 - [27] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: Currently I have taken a scout ship that has small projectiles cannons....sound familar? Why yes, it does! TEST Alliance BEST Alliance
DrysonBennington Eagle's Talon's 8	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:47:00 - [28] - Quote Quote: We get it, you liked Homeworld. No, EVE is not even kind of similar. Have you ever played HW? Perhaps your Correlative Thinking and Associations Skill needs trained to level five to receive the full bonus.
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 2303	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:49:00 - [29] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: Quote: We get it, you liked Homeworld. No, EVE is not even kind of similar. Have you ever played HW? Perhaps your Correlative Thinking and Associations Skill needs trained to level five to receive the full bonus. Both of them. Multiple times. You need to stop the wishful thinking, and stop acting so defensive. Your comparison was overwrought and poorly founded. We called it out. Now you're just making yourself look worse while simultaneously drawing more attention towards yourself. For everyone's sake, just stop. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance
Cadfael Maelgwyn Immortals of New Eden Rebel Alliance of New Eden 162	Posted - 2012.08.17 15:49:00 - [30] - Quote DrysonBennington wrote: Quote: We get it, you liked Homeworld. No, EVE is not even kind of similar. Have you ever played HW? Perhaps your Correlative Thinking and Associations Skill needs trained to level five to receive the full bonus. You're showing yourself to be a petty, simple-minded fool by posting these insults. Seriously, knock it off.

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