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zero2espect
Amarr
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:39:00 -
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2 days after the patch. 100vs100 fight and seriously this is the worst lag i have ever seen.
approx 21:30 eve time. Huola star system.
Horrible. Just Horrible.
//sometimes less is more...zero
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Gabriel Theodoulos
Amarr
1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2011.01.19 21:47:00 -
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What godless lag!
There was no honor in that fight CCP. What else did you fix?
Yeh, yeh... I know the routine...
I would file a Petition, but knowing you folks well enough, I won't waste your time, nor mine!
I already KNOW what the answer is.
[size=10pt]Gabriel Theodoulos
Optio[/size]
[url=http://housetheodoulos.blogspot.com]Gabe's Blog[/url] |
Sepum
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Posted - 2011.01.19 22:04:00 -
[3]
Yeah that was hideous.
At least I got my pod out (eventually) - at least I didnt have to worry about aggression timer when docking, it was long gone......
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Nephilim Xeno
Caldari
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2011.01.19 22:05:00 -
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worst lag i had since the "FW lag" was fixed, clients totaly locked up any hardly responded to any commands
felt more like client side lag to me compared to old FW lag
and i am on a quad core with 8 gig ram and decent graphic card like many others that hat similar lag
did people outside FW expierience this too? or is it FW exclusive again like the last time?
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Herring
Caldari
Fork In Your Face LTD
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Posted - 2011.01.19 22:08:00 -
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was the worst lag I'd had since 1200 man blobfests of the south. 100 vs 100....ridiculous
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Decius Severus
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Posted - 2011.01.19 22:13:00 -
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Wow! Been a long time since I have seen a lag of this dimension! Watched my ship die without being able to do anything about it! Great job!
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar
Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2011.01.19 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Alica Wildfire on 19/01/2011 22:28:53
Totally lagged out. I can hardly remember anything like that. Maybe last time in a lowsec 1000 shipfight I think. And there it was way better than this. Grid loaded, I could see the overview, unable to lock something. Then finally a Guardian showed up. But I never managed to fire a shot.
The fight was over before I could lock another target.
I had released my drones, which I later found out. Wellą Epic lagfeast. But by the way, GF, Amarr. Hope to battle you again.
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FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Mr Gigglez
Minmatar
The Sunshine Carpet Cleaners
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Posted - 2011.01.19 22:32:00 -
[8]
Worst lag I've ever experienced...
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Odelya d'Hanguest
1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2011.01.19 22:58:00 -
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Indeed, something went horribly wrong there.
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Asthariye
Angry Mustellid
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Posted - 2011.01.20 01:51:00 -
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Yeah, absolutely awful. I had brackets off and all graphics to low going in, as lag was so bad in earlier fleet movement and skirmishes, and ended up turning off effects in the first 30 sec of the fight. (should've done it beforehand but forgot.) That.combined with a fairly high-end system meant I could just about tell what was going on, but I fared a lot better than most of the fleet or most of the other side it seems. Not seen anything like it since fw lag was fixed.
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Darpinator
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Posted - 2011.01.20 04:42:00 -
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I can't play anymore because the network lag is so bad. Undocking and docking takes at least three minutes, as well as changing systems. I can't look at my character sheet or the market without waiting at least 10 minutes for them to load. It might just be an issue with the network I'm on, but I really hope CCP can do something, otherwise I'll have to cancel my subscription until I'm back at home with a decent connection.
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Pewpcawx
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Posted - 2011.01.20 10:12:00 -
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+1 for the lag
warped into the battle to be faced with a frozen client for 15 minutes
maybe 0.5 fps if I was lucky
woke up in my shiny new clone in Amarr with a -3.0 sec status thanks should be fun getting out !
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CPL Madison
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Posted - 2011.01.20 10:14:00 -
[13]
 Originally by: Darpinator
I can't play anymore because the network lag is so bad. Undocking and docking takes at least three minutes, as well as changing systems. I can't look at my character sheet or the market without waiting at least 10 minutes for them to load. It might just be an issue with the network I'm on, but I really hope CCP can do something, otherwise I'll have to cancel my subscription until I'm back at home with a decent connection.
Im on a 10mb connection and i couldnt do anything in that fight other than wait to get podded :)
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Cryloud
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Posted - 2011.01.20 10:36:00 -
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Same here, Quadcore Machine with ATI 5850 HD
I just closed the Client and restarted it to lower the Graphics and
disabled all the Effects and logs. But that all didnt helped.
It was definately a Sever Lag. I wasnt able to enable any Single Module
or to select anything.
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zero2espect
Amarr
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2011.01.20 16:50:00 -
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is anybody from ccp reading this? any response?
//sometimes less is more...zero
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Colonel Smurf
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Posted - 2011.01.20 17:33:00 -
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same here
i was able to lock twice and start the microwarp... and thats all... the armor was dropping although the shield stopped moving at about 70%... but all of our female characters can now have big ****...
bad job ccp!
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Titus Veridius
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Posted - 2011.01.20 17:46:00 -
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I think the closest comparison I have to that lag is probably the 500 man test server capital/titan testing that occurred in December 2009; same time everyone got all the skills and those tight xmas presents on Singularity. There was what 50 Titans, 150 MoMs, and 300 Dreds?
I don't know how CCP could hypothetically justify saying "logs indicate nothing" when all you have to do is look at the battle info...one side is smoking pods right and left, and the other side can't even lock enemy ships. I suppose we all collectively decided to play a trick on ourselves. Furthermore laws of probability indicate strong correlation between a previous days patch and recently unprecedented grid lag for a SMALL fight experienced my the whole of the Amarr militia fleet. That is if the petitions get the standard response. And I say "I don't know why" merely as a literary tool. I'm well aware of why.
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Majin Shouten
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Posted - 2011.01.20 17:48:00 -
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I had the same experience.
Tried several minutes to even target someone. Didnt work. So i jumped out, wich also took several minutes.
Seriously? You expect that kind of lag in the big sov wars where hundreds and hundreds of people clash. But not on a 100vs100 scale.
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David Devant
Gallente
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.01.20 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: David Devant on 20/01/2011 18:19:36
Confirming that this was indeed terribad. The reason all the pods were on your side was nowt to do with lag though.
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Darpinator
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Posted - 2011.01.20 18:43:00 -
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I wasn't involved in the battle. I have this terrible lag even in systems of just a couple people.
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Gibbo5771
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Posted - 2011.01.20 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: zero2espect
is anybody from ccp reading this? any response?
Nope they dont really care, as long as the My Sims...I mean eve character creator is working (even although it lacks content everywhere)
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.01.21 00:27:00 -
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Confirming, was in that same fight last night. It was mostly unplayable. Couldn't lock anything after the first two targets, couldn't switch mods on or off, couldn't launch drones. I have no idea what the reason was, but the fact that this was our first big fight after the patch on Tuesday indicates that it is a result of that patch.
If I were to speculate on the reasons, I would say a mix of the new characters portraits being fetched from the server, combined with extra server overhead for the Incursions.
On the other hand, it could also be that the Huola system was on the same node as the Ashab system, where there was a major Incursion/Invasion/CCP Event running with about 400 in local which could have swamped the server.
But whatever the reason, we've never had lag as bad as this in FW or anywhere in losec before. On the 26th of November last year, we had a fight of the same size in the Kourmonen system with almost no lag.
Come on CCP. Really. This is unacceptable.
I have a dual quad core with a GT8800, had brackets and effects off.
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Scarred Faith
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.01.21 02:45:00 -
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Maybe the autoloading of avatars in all channels is causing excess lag?
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Oathborne
Caldari
Genstar Inc
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Posted - 2011.01.21 05:57:00 -
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Fight tonight in Tama. Gallente vs Caldari Militia.
Caldari got WTFPWND because of the biggest lag monster i have ever seen.
Roughly 40ships between both sides, on the Nourv Gate.
FIX THIS CRAP NOW PLEASE! WE DON'T GET MANY FIGHTS THESE DAYS, WE'D AT LEAST NOT HAVE TO ATTRIBUTE OUR WINS TO LAG.
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zero2espect
Amarr
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2011.01.21 09:00:00 -
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yer. it's obvious to me that until this happens to NC, PL or IT or someone with some "pull" with ccp us peons will just have to not shoot each other...
instead everybody in FW should just play online poker, betting systems on the hands.
i don't know how ccp think they are going to handle 400people in lowsec systems fighting sansha - because we all know the low sec systems are running right on the edge of horsepower anyway.
//sometimes less is more...zero
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.01.21 10:15:00 -
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Originally by: zero2espect
yer. it's obvious to me that until this happens to NC, PL or IT or someone with some "pull" with ccp us peons will just have to not shoot each other...
instead everybody in FW should just play online poker, betting systems on the hands.
i don't know how ccp think they are going to handle 400people in lowsec systems fighting sansha - because we all know the low sec systems are running right on the edge of horsepower anyway.
At the current rate, I think CCP will have managed to alienate every single customer segment they have by the time the summer patch comes out. I will petition Wednesday's fight tonight and urgently suggest that people from Cal/Gal militia do the same for the Tama fight.
The worrying thing is that CCP might ignore this lag altogether for a long time because they show almost no interest in losec in general.
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Cryloud
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Posted - 2011.01.21 11:55:00 -
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We flown yesterday with 30 man trough Minmatar FW Space and noticed
that we had always some minilags similar to the Big Lag. It happened
always when the 30 Guys decloaked on a Gate and when PPL launched Drones.
The Lag was always between 3 and 7 Seconds long if we decloaked or launched Drones.
Does anyone know why this happens ???
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Predator Elite
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2011.01.21 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Cryloud
We flown yesterday with 30 man trough Minmatar FW Space and noticed
that we had always some minilags similar to the Big Lag. It happened
always when the 30 Guys decloaked on a Gate and when PPL launched Drones.
The Lag was always between 3 and 7 Seconds long if we decloaked or launched Drones.
Does anyone know why this happens ???
Another example of this yesterday I jumped into a 7 pirate frig gate camp it was just me vs 7 of them and it wouldn't let me delcoak until they jumped through the gate then I was able to move again, guess its getting worse now.
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ACESsiggy
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Posted - 2011.01.21 13:53:00 -
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Edited by: ACESsiggy on 21/01/2011 13:53:22
Doesn't help either when peeps play with horrible internet speeds  I'm sure all of us complaining have cable internet though.
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Cryloud
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Posted - 2011.01.21 14:01:00 -
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The Funny thing is all of the Peeps complaining about this
has cable Connection for sure and had much much bigger Fights without
any Kind of that Lag. Me : 16mbit stable Connection
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Cryloud
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Posted - 2011.01.21 14:13:00 -
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BTW, i have answer to my Petition now and again they refused a reimburse for my Scorpion in this Fight like always when i loose Stuff to Server Issue things -.-
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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2011.01.21 14:14:00 -
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We looked into this issue and deployed a possible improvement to the client together with today's patch.
It would be great if you could let us know in this thread, if the behavior has improved.
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zero2espect
Amarr
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2011.01.21 14:36:00 -
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so this means that ccp recognizes they broke the game with the last patch - and i'm sure all of the reimbursement petitions will be honored now?
//sometimes less is more...zero
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Zilero
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Posted - 2011.01.21 14:56:00 -
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Probably related to the general drop in performance seen after 1.1.0.
Great job CCP.
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Cryloud
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Posted - 2011.01.21 15:02:00 -
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Looks like not.. GM Strixaluco said again no reimbursement after shown him this Thread and CCP Habakuks Post. He argumented that another Players Threads, Comments or Experience cant help to reimburse my Ship. He said aswell they cant see any problems or localize if my Scorp died to Lag or not.
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Zilero
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Posted - 2011.01.21 15:12:00 -
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Time to find another game to play
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Pedro Carnicero
Amarr
Hartes Beton
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Posted - 2011.01.21 15:15:00 -
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Is it possible that it's all laggy since the 1.1.0 patch??
Or am I the only one experiencing that?
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.01.21 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Cryloud
Looks like not.. GM Strixaluco said again no reimbursement after shown him this Thread and CCP Habakuks Post. He argumented that another Players Threads, Comments or Experience cant help to reimburse my Ship. He said aswell they cant see any problems or localize if my Scorp died to Lag or not.
Cry, get over it, man. It's just an internet space ship and you will lose more of them like all of us will. You're in FW, FW missions will provide you with more than enough LP to easily replace that.
The problem is with lag.
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Cryloud
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Posted - 2011.01.21 16:52:00 -
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Bomberlocks i have enough Money. I do PvP since i Play EvE. I dont care about this ship but i care about Principles. They just say stuff trough Server Issues gets reimbursed. And i dont accept that i loose a Ship without beeing able to Control it.
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Barathrum Zinfandel
BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2011.01.22 00:52:00 -
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Bump for fix. Don¦t want FW lag coming back.
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CPL Madison
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Posted - 2011.01.22 23:04:00 -
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CCPs response to reimbursement:
If you are part of a fleet engagement, being in the same system, we cannot reimburse, no matter the condition of our server. If we start reimbursing in those conditions than any party can force reimbursement by simply getting enough pilots to produce lag or any other side effect of a heavy load. That means we would have to reimburse any and all losses from every fleet engagement, including changes to sovereignty or the loss of sovereignty structures. Our petition system and reimbursement policy would become a tool for in game parties to defend their assets or to manipulate the political and military landscape.
For these reasons we cannot deviate from our policy and for these reasons we cannot reimburse any losses suffered from a fleet battle.
This is a shame im on minimum graphics settings, on a 10mb fibre optic line and unable to take part in any decent fleet fight
I literally froze for 10-15 mins in that engagement i couldnt do anything but wait to wake up in my fresh clone
Agree with you guys i will probably have to find a new game as mission running is just mind numbingly easy and boring, PVP is the only fun thing for me but this simply isnt possible with a decent sized fleet
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Cryloud
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Posted - 2011.01.23 00:26:00 -
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Cant believe that you get similar responses to this reimbursement Petition. Why GM`s does refuse Reimbursements for this horrible Sysem Error or whatever it is?
They just had some bugs/Errors in this patch it looks like, then you die in a expensive Ship without able to Control it and the they refuse reimbursement for this - horrible really! Well its not our fault that CCP had Bugs in the new patched Client which ended in Lag or whatever.
Reimbursement Policy
# Ships lost during PVP combat may be replaced only in cases where a bug has been verified as the cause of the loss. Such reimbursement would only be done after an investigation and at the discretion of a GM.
For me its a Bug if im not able to Control my Ship normally as it should be.
Most Guys wasnt able to activate any Single Module....
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Lordpop
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Posted - 2011.01.23 00:48:00 -
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CCP do not give a flying Pod,
With kind regards,
GM Homonoia
The EVE Online Customer Support Team
CCP Games
hehe got his isk, next
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CPL Madison
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Posted - 2011.01.23 13:03:00 -
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Ive heard rumours that if i was in IT Alliance or Pandemic Legion i would have had my ship replaced by ccp...
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
Asthariye
Angry Mustellid
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Posted - 2011.01.23 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Habakuk
We looked into this issue and deployed a possible improvement to the client together with today's patch.
It would be great if you could let us know in this thread, if the behavior has improved.
Certainly seems better in small engagements. Not been in a properly large scrap yet since you did this. |
Ragnar256
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.01.24 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: CPL Madison
Ive heard rumours that if i was in IT Alliance or Pandemic Legion i would have had my ship replaced by ccp...
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
IT alliance huh? I believe I witness their POS in Outer Ring getting bashed all over. Sure was fun to watch from my cloakie.
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4 OF9
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Posted - 2011.01.24 22:01:00 -
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well as a mission runner all u guys ever say to us is
"SHUT UP AND ADDAPT"
well guess wot ccp wont fix the lag...
so SHUT UP AND ADDAPT
lessen ur fleets to less ships in systems...
stop complaining and play
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