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Orion Teller	Posted - 2011.01.20 06:34:00 - [1] So I was leaving 0.0 in my viator. Fitted with mwd, covert-ops cloak, and nano-fibers. Actually made it out of 0.0 unharmed, even past a bubble camp or two. So i'm in low-sec lke 3 jumps away from empire and then lag hit. It wasn't major lag but I came on a gate camp with about 15 people. Okay, not that bad, I made it through 0.0, even past a smaller camp in low-sec earlier. So align, mwd, cloak. Pressing those buttons became almost second nature now. But what's this, ship hasn't cloaked. Now their near-insta-locker locked me and i'm pointed. WTF?! I pressed that cloak button like twice and I wasn't locked when I did. Okay, so I don't make it back to the gate because of webs. I'm in hull, set overview to show celestials only to spam emergency warp. Select a random planet. SPAM WARP SPAM WARP SPAM WARP SPAM WARP SPAM WARP SPAM WARP. Ship Pops. SPAM WARP SPAM WARP SPAM WARP SPAM WARP. But what this again?! My pod is still there. This is unusualy, even if i'm relatively new to blockade running (maybe it was my fault for not cloaking). But I know how to spam warp. So my pod doesn't make it. So not only do I lose hundreds of millions worth of cargo, plus implants, I don't even get reimbursed because CCP's logs "didn't show anything unusual". Clap Clap Clap Congradulations CCP, after 3 years of playing EVE, you have finally actually managed to make me mad over an expensive lost. PS. I'm not leaving, I'm keeping my stuff.
lag kills Voodoo Tactical Ghost Syndicate.	Posted - 2011.01.20 06:52:00 - [2] well. ___________________________ not all who wander are lost.
Bad Messenger draketrain	Posted - 2011.01.20 08:11:00 - [3] You should check your own logs 1st and see why it did not let you cloak. There might be clear explanation for that, maybe corpse or something, or maybe you tried to cloack before you uncloaked. Flying a coverops ships does not mean that no one can kill you, skilled players has good change to kill those and little mistages and you are dead. Spamming warp does not always work, if enemy has very high scan resolution. I usually lose one or two pods in year, because of 'lagg' mostly lag is your internet connection lag, not ccp fault. If your game seems to be lagging more than usually and your friend does not have any lag, it may be your connection. When you connection lags it is better to stay docked, you will lose less ships.
Kruz Sanar	Posted - 2011.01.20 09:35:00 - [4] Edited by: Kruz Sanar on 20/01/2011 09:41:38 I'm not 100% sure it's lag or not. I lost a covt ops yesterday because my cloak didn't turn on. Was low sec but pretty much same deal, I'm well practiced in hitting align or warp/cloak/mwd. Yet yesterday after doing this for the one millionth time as in second nature, I find myself being locked up by a WT frig and being aggro'd. I know for 100% sure there was nothing in my path and that I hit the cloak button, the WT was 15km away at the time and didn't uncloak me. I saw another guy complaining about same thing in Cal mil chat yesterday, so my guess is there will likely be a lot more of these posts over the next weeks and we will soon find out there is some new bug, introduced in the latest update, but the logs will show nothing.
Idicious Lightbane Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:05:00 - [5] Protip: First hit Cloak, THEN MWD. Decreases chances of Cloak not activating in time dew to lag and their insta-locker to pin you down. You still have around a full second after Cloak activates to start a MWD cycle, try it out some-where safe (like high-sec), it works 100% of the time.
My Postman	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:11:00 - [6] What above guy said. Align + Cloak + MWD. Always works.
Grant Smith Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:19:00 - [7] or cloak and warp.... as BR's have a COVERT OP'S CLOAK ................
Idicious Lightbane Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:23:00 - [8] Reading his post I'm assuming he was referring to the T2 transport that doesn't have the cov-ops cloak, can't think of name atm.
bushwacka	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:26:00 - [9] Originally by: Grant Smith or cloak and warp.... as BR's have a COVERT OP'S CLOAK ................ even if you do have a covops cloak, you should do the mwd+cloak trick since intys will shoot over to the position you jumped in, trying to decloak you while you align.
Target Painter Minmatar	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:38:00 - [10] Edited by: Target Painter on 20/01/2011 11:38:00 Originally by: Idicious Lightbane Reading his post I'm assuming he was referring to the T2 transport that doesn't have the cov-ops cloak, can't think of name atm. AFAIK, it's still called a blockade runner. I call it, "the **** one" myself.
Lilla Kharn Amarr	Posted - 2011.01.20 11:58:00 - [11] It was the pirates, not lag. You phail. ============================================= "Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.01.20 12:20:00 - [12] The patch broke something awful. FW areas can barely sustain a small gang fight, once you go full fleet (50+) you are worse off than the 1000+ fights in null pre-patch .. When I say bad I mean bad as in a quarter of a million HP gone plus pod with no visible update notifications whatsoever. They spent a lot of time making low-sec workable even for 100+ vs. 100+ pre-patch where it was laggy but very playable, now we are back to 18 months ago when a mere handful of people will mess things up.
Robert Caldera	Posted - 2011.01.20 13:19:00 - [13] nerf lag
Bad Messenger draketrain	Posted - 2011.01.20 16:38:00 - [14] I do not see how it can be server lag if enemy manages to lock you and kill , if it is server lag you should be able to warp away before anyone can do anything.
Letrange Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation	Posted - 2011.01.20 17:29:00 - [15] Originally by: Target Painter Edited by: Target Painter on 20/01/2011 11:38:00 Originally by: Idicious Lightbane Reading his post I'm assuming he was referring to the T2 transport that doesn't have the cov-ops cloak, can't think of name atm. AFAIK, it's still called a blockade runner. I call it, "the **** one" myself. Deep Space Transport (you noob) Look it up instead of spouting nonsense.
Deen Wispa Gallente Pilots of Epic	Posted - 2011.01.20 18:06:00 - [16] Originally by: My Postman What above guy said. Align + Cloak + MWD. Always works. How soon after hitting MWD, do we warp? I've tried timing it so that I can warp instantly upon decloaking. Only a few times have I done that and the rest of the time I've managed to warp after a second or two which is enough time for someone to scram me. ----------------- I demand Excellence from my corpies. So should you.
Idicious Lightbane Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.01.20 18:15:00 - [17] Edited by: Idicious Lightbane on 20/01/2011 18:16:06 Originally by: Deen Wispa Originally by: My Postman What above guy said. Align + Cloak + MWD. Always works. How soon after hitting MWD, do we warp? I've tried timing it so that I can warp instantly upon decloaking. Only a few times have I done that and the rest of the time I've managed to warp after a second or two which is enough time for someone to scram me. You wait for the MWD to finish it's cycle, it will stop after 1, for fastest warp-off drop cloak just as MWD ends it's cycle, hit warp. And it requires a TII Cloak to work (improved cloaking device), the T1 version won't get your speed high enough to insta warp dew to much higher maximum velocity penalty.
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.01.20 18:29:00 - [18] Originally by: Orion Teller PS. I'm not leaving, I'm keeping my stuff. Actually I think you'll find it's the pirates that'll be keeping your stuff.
Dark Pangolin Caldari Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse	Posted - 2011.01.20 18:37:00 - [19] I think this has been beaten to death, All I can say is I have noticed EXCEPTIONAL lag in the last 2 days in Cal/Gal FW low sec...20 V 1 fights (as per normal) have been significantly worse on lag...also the FW folks in local (both WT and Friendly) have been showing up as neutral...super great Lets sum up, its internet spaceships and sometimes the interweb gods decide you can't have your pixels any more.
Kruz Sanar	Posted - 2011.01.20 23:26:00 - [20] Originally by: Idicious Lightbane Protip: First hit Cloak, THEN MWD. Decreases chances of Cloak not activating in time dew to lag and their insta-locker to pin you down. You still have around a full second after Cloak activates to start a MWD cycle, try it out some-where safe (like high-sec), it works 100% of the time. Negative.. I "always" hit align/cloak then MWD and it didn't work yesterday as mu cloak did not activate even though I now for 100% sure the I hit the button. I'm pretty sure this is a new bug with the latest update and time will soon tell.
Mung Podder	Posted - 2011.01.21 00:40:00 - [21] "I pressed that cloak button like twice" How about not pressing it twice?
Corina Jarr	Posted - 2011.01.21 00:42:00 - [22] Or... that was referring to you clicking the cloak button while you were cloaked from gate jump, and hence the cloak was interfering with you activating cloak. There is a slight delay between the time you begin moving and the time you actually stop being cloaked. I've tested this myself and found that if you click to fast, you won't cloak.
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.01.21 01:07:00 - [23] Edited by: X Gallentius on 21/01/2011 01:09:10 Overpowered instalocking arty Macherial killed my comet from 100+ km - and my pod - before I could do anything. So it goes both ways.
Risara	Posted - 2011.01.21 09:47:00 - [24] Haven't had this happen, but as others have stated, cloak first and there shouldn't be too many problems.
My Postman	Posted - 2011.01.21 13:10:00 - [25] What one of the above poster said. Gate cloak screws this up if you hit cloak to early after aligning. I usually wait a second after "align to" before activating the cloak. Another half second till mwd. But maybe that was before patch day, haven¦t tested it yet.
Zeerover Wolfsbrigade	Posted - 2011.01.21 13:33:00 - [26] Originally by: Kruz Sanar I post the logs from this happening to me.. ------------------------------------------------------------ Gamelog Listener: Kruz Sanar Session started: 2011.01.19 19:58:58 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2011.01.19 19:59:08 ] (notify) Aligning to Stargate (Evaulon) [ 2011.01.19 19:59:10 ] (notify) Interference from the cloaking you are doing is preventing your systems from functioning at this time. [ 2011.01.19 19:59:15 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>150mm Railgun II belonging to X Gallentius heavily hits you, inflicting 161.3 damage. [ 2011.01.19 19:59:15 ] (notify) <fontsize=11><color=0xff33FF66>Shiptype:á<b>Federation Navy Comet</b> Pilotname: <b>X Gallentius</b> Shipname: áBlue Comet Corporation: [QCATS] Distance: has started trying to warp scramble you! Now it's pretty obvious that by looking at the logs my ship should of been cloaked. You can see when I hit align.. Then when I hit MWD it's giving the typical error stating that u can't activate that mod due to having a active cloak.. From the log it's looks like you had gatecloak when you tried to activate your module, and therefore nothing happened apart from you starting to align uncloaked... Now why you had gatecloak two seconds after starting alignment is another matter entirely.
Kruz Sanar	Posted - 2011.01.22 00:46:00 - [27] Originally by: Zeerover Originally by: Kruz Sanar I post the logs from this happening to me.. ------------------------------------------------------------ Gamelog Listener: Kruz Sanar Session started: 2011.01.19 19:58:58 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2011.01.19 19:59:08 ] (notify) Aligning to Stargate (Evaulon) [ 2011.01.19 19:59:10 ] (notify) Interference from the cloaking you are doing is preventing your systems from functioning at this time. [ 2011.01.19 19:59:15 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>150mm Railgun II belonging to X Gallentius heavily hits you, inflicting 161.3 damage. [ 2011.01.19 19:59:15 ] (notify) <fontsize=11><color=0xff33FF66>Shiptype:á<b>Federation Navy Comet</b> Pilotname: <b>X Gallentius</b> Shipname: áBlue Comet Corporation: [QCATS] Distance: has started trying to warp scramble you! Now it's pretty obvious that by looking at the logs my ship should of been cloaked. You can see when I hit align.. Then when I hit MWD it's giving the typical error stating that u can't activate that mod due to having a active cloak.. From the log it's looks like you had gatecloak when you tried to activate your module, and therefore nothing happened apart from you starting to align uncloaked... Now why you had gatecloak two seconds after starting alignment is another matter entirely. Na.. I had an active cloak and it was "geen" meaning it was turned "on" and next thing I know I was being targeted even though the UI showed my cloak was active. This toon spends most of his time in a covt ops, meaning I'm pretty versed in typical avoidance of hostiles while flying one.
Minerva Nova	Posted - 2011.01.22 04:20:00 - [28] Bummer man, that's a bummer.
Boltorano Fourth Circle Total Comfort	Posted - 2011.01.22 12:29:00 - [29] Whatever you might think happened, or what the module icons might have told you, you still had gate cloak when you activated the cloak.
Jenny Hauler	Posted - 2011.01.22 15:08:00 - [30] That did also happen yesterday to an alt scouting lo sec in a anathema, he found a mini camp, abaddon, drake and a devoter but he couldn't get his ship or even his pod out even when he know what to do, it should be impossible to not get away.

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