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Rexy
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Posted - 2005.01.25 08:32:00 -
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if you fit an mwd,thermal/kinetic hardner and a lage SB II, where are you gonna put a webber/scrambler. people armor tank it so they can free up some med slots. because you dont have any on most minny ships if you put up a shieldtank 
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Rexy
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Posted - 2005.01.25 08:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Lilane
You just run a light tanking wich would give you 75%/60%/70%/60% and a booster.
other types have higher resistances on average, and i reckon i need a bit of survivabilety.also, thermal/kinetic are the most used damaga types in pvp, and also not using a 2e hardner will increase the need for usage of the SB, and with one MWD on it i doubt there will be enough cap to run it for long.
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Rexy
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Posted - 2005.01.25 09:59:00 -
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Edited by: Rexy on 25/01/2005 10:02:45
Originally by: Jazz Bo
Besides, it has four med slots, so if you know you're facing a Deimos: 2 x Gallente ECM + Web + Warp Disruptor = one dead Deimos (although timing here is everything, you need to be able to web but not get webbed your self)
wich is a pointless argument imo, any ship can fit a few racial jammers and take out a ship like that. point is that in a slugfest between the two the vagabond doesnt have the firepower or the longevity in tanking to win. one or two missiles slots, if even used at all wont make a bit of difference.i doubt you'll see a lot of heavy missiles on a vagabond the fitting reqs are kinda high to be squeezed in alongside a gun+shieldtank setup.
the autocannons have range argument doesnt work much either, their optimal is almost as low as blasters, 1k, 1.5km with emp and pp. Yes they have 9-10km fallof true, but a 10km orbit firing auttocannons the damage is like trying to kill an elephant with small pebbles.
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Rexy
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:26:00 -
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perhaps, but noone in their right mind will run around with webber,scrambler and 2 racial jammers. minny tech2 ships utterly suck at armortanking, it's just asking to get yourself killed. and 10 med drones still deal nasty damaga 
All i want for cristmas is a typhoon with launcher rof bonus :) |
Rexy
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Posted - 2005.01.25 10:48:00 -
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i've been looking at the munin, but it seems to have the same poor quality the wolf has, no shield tank, and poor resists on the armor :/
All i want for cristmas is a typhoon with launcher rof bonus :) |
Rexy
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Posted - 2005.01.25 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: Rexy on 25/01/2005 11:18:43
in any case, using bursts and a jammer i consider a freaky/extreme setup, seems like minny's are doomed to use autocannons, a shieldtank and a mix of stabs+gyro's  ..
All i want for cristmas is a typhoon with launcher rof bonus :) |
Rexy
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Posted - 2005.01.26 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lilane
Originally by: Selim
The Vagabond has 4 midslots (which I found out yesterday, after it being proven that I am a foolish noob). It needs a mwd. It needs a web and a warp scrambler.
Well i think the point is : Deimos is a better soloer than vagabond. Still it's probably not the only use one can make of a ship, indeed. And i'm still thonking the Vag is close the Deimos in term of being a good ship as long as you shield tank it, for the reason Selim mentionned about Vag's armor weaknesses.
about shieldtanking true, but the point is i think that the vagabond isnt much more then an expensive frig killer compared to others Hac's.
All i want for cristmas is a typhoon with launcher rof bonus :) |
Rexy
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Posted - 2005.01.26 19:33:00 -
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tankin a munin, roflol, shieldtanking it is the only way and hardly doable at that, because of ****ty cpu, kinda like the wolf, and judging by it's shield/armor ratio it's meant to armor tank but doesnt have enough cpu or slots to use 3 hardners to get those resists up to scatch.
All i want for cristmas is a typhoon with launcher rof bonus :) |
Rexy
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Posted - 2005.01.27 01:28:00 -
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i did , now back training projectiles specializations, way more usefull then a 60M frig killer 
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