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Oriana Mortuney
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Posted - 2011.02.03 18:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Jack Gilligan
Sounds to me what we REALLY need if Incarna is truly jumping off the rails into something we won't like and heavily indulging in $OE/Craptic style "cash shop hell" we need a principled member of the CSM to resign and break their NDA.
I am one of the people who run the MMO fansite mmofringe.com, anyone wanting to "launder" said stuff is perfectly welcome to do so through us so that they can keep their own hands clean.
Frankly stuff like this shouldn't be under NDA in the first place it is, after all, OUR MONEY they are using to develop this, after my experiences with $OE and the Star Wars Galaxies NGE being developed in secret behind our backs I certainly don't believe a MMO publisher has any RIGHT to develop stuff they know their player base isn't going to like in secret (so we will keep giving them money to develop it) to spring it on us when it's too late for us to have any input on it.
Now, I'm hoping this isn't the case here, but as they say, sunlight is the best disinfectant.
I don't see what opening yourself up to legal action, making the CSM look 'worse' by having yet another 'scandal' will do all to satisfy our curiosity for something we'll see in what 5 more months?
While I'd like to know all the 'plans' it isn't our right, we only get to choose to keep paying/playing or not that's all. We aren't part of the board or owners of CCP to dictate such things from them, we are the customers who they can make happy or unhappy by releasing stuff we like or not as they please.
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Quemist
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Posted - 2011.02.03 18:09:00 -
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When I started playing this game. The first day I logged in I was trying to figure out the interface ect. I had absolutely no idea what was going on. I start asking questions blah blah. I ask how do I get out of my ship. A blue replies , soon followed by a green soon.tm
And everyone went on a discussion about it. It has since been promised, dangled in front of us only to be inevitably delayed. They even showed videos as if it were almost ready to be released.
Strippers/bars/games so yes I've been waiting for it and was excited about it. I'm not waiting anymore.
This is for you CCP
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Jack Gilligan
1st Cavalry Division
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.03 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 03/02/2011 21:53:49
Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 03/02/2011 21:52:54
Originally by: Oriana Mortuney
I don't see what opening yourself up to legal action, making the CSM look 'worse' by having yet another 'scandal' will do all to satisfy our curiosity for something we'll see in what 5 more months?
Legal action? I didn't sign any NDA. Nor would it avail them to try to find out who "leaked" the NDA'ed material to me as I'd not be able to even testify factually as to who even gave it to me. I know none of the CSM personally and if they were smart the info would slide in over the transom via a throwaway gmail account or something.
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While I'd like to know all the 'plans' it isn't our right, we only get to choose to keep paying/playing or not that's all. We aren't part of the board or owners of CCP to dictate such things from them, we are the customers who they can make happy or unhappy by releasing stuff we like or not as they please.
If they are taking our money and working on a monster behind our back and not disclosing that (think the NGE again) which might cause us to NOT continue to subscribe (and thus fund) if we knew about it I think we have EVERY right to know about it! Indeed, the whole purpose of the CSM should be to prevent something like that from ever happening. CCP shouldn't be able to put them under NDA, and if they did, it should be for very short periods of time, no more than 30 days maximum.
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar
Cloakers
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Posted - 2011.02.03 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Rek Seven
3.Private quarters where i can change clothes, and invite up to four people to play a private game poker etc.
Thats just selfish. We wanna poker too 
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Feilamya
Pain Elemental
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Posted - 2011.02.03 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Tarantula
If Incarna is yet another bait and switch i'm outta here, and i'm pretty sure, after analyzing things, i will be.
If Incarna was your only reason for playing this game, then you should have quit years ago.
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San Severina
Minmatar
One Point 0
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Posted - 2011.02.03 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Herping yourDerp
if T'amber QQ rage ***** quit over micro transactions for vanity items then good ridence,
unless they are going to make it " buy a titan for $300 USD" then micro transactions will be fine.
you idiot! Titans can be bought with real money but they are alot more expensive than $300! try 50Billion ISK worth of Plex. Quick mental add up at 350Mill aprox. a plex = around 2+ Grand US. Aprox.
I agree with a few other posters who have mentioned the lack of choice in the CC outfits/hair/face features et al, seems to me we need not expect much from incarna if we cant manage more than two different types of pants, in four different colours across all races & bloodlines.
I have been worried by the underground rumblings of things to come also & fear the secrecy only helps flame our paranoia, all I can do is hope things work out (against my better judgment) until more facts are known. Speculation at this point can only be based on rumor & an assessment of past deeds, it's the past deeds that raise my ire, PI was bad, & before that we had probably the worst patch in the history of the game & it seems whatever they broke still hasn't been totally rectified (lagg) but as a lover of EvE & owner of 3 accounts I live in hope.
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Corbon Hydrashock
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
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Posted - 2011.02.04 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: Quemist
They had games, bars with strippers in their videos 2 years ago. I can see CCP completely trashing that in favor of quafe vending machines and a plex shop though. Seemsmore Blizzardy, isn't that who they say they idolize now? Pathetic that it took 4 years to screw up and it wasn't even released so we could experience before they ****ed it up like we could with everything else.
Actually, CCP's main problem isn't messing up a good things. It's actually not building on a good thing.
Case and point, I'll use w-space (Because I'm completly biased and love it out there.).
As fantastic as W-space is theres has been ZERO effort to expand on it, or add content to it. That in my opinion is a mistake. W-space is a veritable gold mine and they should really be expanding on it. But like faction war, it will be something that will just fall by the wayside. Lucky for me, although we may never seen an update to W-Space, as it stands its still pretty fun out there. Though its getting a tad stale.
ANd while I won't ever claim to know as much as most about W-hole space and the opportunities that exist, I am convinced that the dreamers and creativity have either retired from CCP, been fired, or left for other ventures.
Anyone whose been in the game and seen the things implemented from the get-go, and within the first three years, knows that nearly all that has been created since has been thin on actual delivery, and nothing impressive has been coming from them for two years now. (As can be seen by my vacant avatar, I am seriously unimpressed with the smoke and mirrors others seem so enamored with - please give me back my old avatar if you won't let me create at least that which I had.)
Everything, and I mean everything, these days seems really to make it easier on the CCP servers and 'creators.' Half-wits rejoice, purists and enthusiasts question, but the truly gifted must have taken a back-seat, or been pushed out, from creating a better Eve on top of what they built.
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Jack Gilligan
1st Cavalry Division
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.04 13:29:00 -
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I'm not a big fan of wormhole space, but I will say that Apocrypha was our last true expansion to EVE. Everything that has come since haven't done any expansion of the game, just revamps. Dominion, for example. Tyrannous gave us a clickfest mini game that happens on planets.
Incursions are nothing more than a hack of the Apocrypha wormhole/sleeper AI that happens in "normal" space.
Seriously, if they rolled this game back to Apocrypha 1.5 would anyone really complain? Everything that has come since has pretty much created more problems than they solved.
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Nomad Vherokic
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Posted - 2011.02.05 12:17:00 -
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EVE is getting drowned in mediocrity like so much of the games industry. It's franchise upon franchise all peddling the same derivative rubbish. |
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