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Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.01.26 20:58:00 - [31] Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer Now he tells me. I'm like sitting there "WTF? Dees guys dey wurs den speepuhs!!!" Take this advice people, it's true. Never mind that WHY DID YOU KILL DUMBLEDORE??? Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players.
mfw	Posted - 2011.01.26 21:00:00 - [32] Originally by: Obsidian Hawk taking a tech 1 ship with t1 fittings will get you killed. No, it really wont.
Sidaiaon Caldari Massively Mob Massively Alliance	Posted - 2011.01.26 22:03:00 - [33] Originally by: Obsidian Hawk Yeah i cant wait for tonight, our hero fleet with our hero scorpion might be going out again. For a heads up on day 1, our group made quite a bit of isk from day one. Ok now to help out all the new players complaining about incursions and what to do, ask questions here. I will answer them and try to help you all out. Plus a few of the people I flew with last night are in here too, we will give you some tips but not the secrets. Hero Scorpion will be on point, ready to jam tonight bro.
Mel Lifera Gallente Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.01.26 22:17:00 - [34] Nothing to add, really, other than that my Onieros of Destiny will be up for more festivities later tonight as well.
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.01.26 22:23:00 - [35] Obsidian, you got it all backwards.
Jackie Flackette	Posted - 2011.01.26 22:29:00 - [36] Originally by: Ai Mei Originally by: Jackie Flackette Originally by: Obsidian Hawk Originally by: Herping yourDerp i think the issue with these is people jump into the 20man areas, you gotta lower the influence first, take your 20 man fleet, break in to 4 groups of 5, kill the 5 man area's then go 10 man then the 20man area will be 10 times easier because you have SOME resist and get some DPS back Actually this is good point. There are different level incursions for different levels of experience. If you are new to them start off with the basics, then work your way up. Clearing out a lot of the small easy sites is sometimes enough to help the more experienced guys clear out the larger harder sites. I wonder if this is the intention: Use one big group that uses detachments to (successfully we hope) take down the smaller sites until such progression occurs that the detachments converge to the larger sites as the only way to "squash" the incursion entirely. WAIT WHAT? PLAYERS USING LOGIC TO FIGURE OUT CCP's VIEW ON INCURSIONS??? This game involves strategy now rather than just going in with an afk boat and auto winning? Should I ragequit?
The Archetect	Posted - 2011.01.26 22:40:00 - [37] You cannot win. Concord was bored, they wanted to kill some stuff, they devised this whole thing. May Concord prevail.
Neddy Fox Gallente FireStar Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.01.26 22:40:00 - [38] As former carebear, and vivid rememories of that time, I can only acknowledge the OP. It's completely NOT like PVE-ing. -If you're scared of lowsec or pirats -If you do not know how agression and GCC works -If you do not know how to fly logistics / RR in PVP -If you don't have FRIENDS : DON'T EVEN BOTHER. If I remember my empire time, and went with the knowledge I had back then into the incursions, I would have died, horribly, with expensive fits I couldn't afford to lose. ==== -Get a group of friends with PVP expirience -Form a drake group with scimis or Basies who know their ****. -Enter the EASIEST dungeons -LEARN. IMPROVE.
Darth Gustav Warp Devils United Pod Service	Posted - 2011.01.26 22:44:00 - [39] Originally by: Neddy Fox As former carebear, and vivid rememories of that time, I can only acknowledge the OP. It's completely NOT like PVE-ing. -If you're scared of lowsec or pirats -If you do not know how agression and GCC works -If you do not know how to fly logistics / RR in PVP -If you don't have FRIENDS : DON'T EVEN BOTHER. If I remember my empire time, and went with the knowledge I had back then into the incursions, I would have died, horribly, with expensive fits I couldn't afford to lose. ==== -Get a group of friends with PVP expirience -Form a drake group with scimis or Basies who know their ****. -Enter the EASIEST dungeons -LEARN. IMPROVE. ^This is a great post!!! +10
Ai Mei Starfish Operating Syndicate	Posted - 2011.01.27 04:30:00 - [40] I still find it funny that more people make whine posts to keep the helpful posts down.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.01.27 08:58:00 - [41] then we better bump this one up Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Aaarrghhh	Posted - 2011.01.27 09:15:00 - [42] Originally by: Neddy Fox -Enter the EASIEST dungeons You said Dungeon :(
Takseen	Posted - 2011.01.27 09:30:00 - [43] Originally by: Aaarrghhh Originally by: Neddy Fox -Enter the EASIEST dungeons You said Dungeon :( Pfft, even CCP calls them dungeons sometimes. Quote: The mysterious "???" dungeon sites will no longer show up when scanning.
HeliosGal Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.27 09:34:00 - [44] dont like em vote with youre fleet and go back to level 4s
Jowdra Amarr GalTech Shipyards	Posted - 2011.01.27 13:02:00 - [45] CCP need to review how Concord react to players in these incursions. You cant get 100 people in the same corporation to start attacking at the same time, you get 100 random people in a gang and you have to tread very lightly incase you misclick. Concord should be able to see this and not respond. bring back the old Group dynamics of No hostile action while in a gang in the same system. Even if it just means in Incursion systems.. if thats done believe me more people will contribute and start fighting these incursions. CCP pull your programmers fingers out of their collective anal chutes and do something about this.
Bankoff DarkFusion	Posted - 2011.01.27 16:26:00 - [46] My corp survived the incursions with a good group of bs, spider tanked, and a scorp on hand. Some of our individuals did not survive when they tried to join incursion on their own. Some got killed by Sansha and others by Concord. I don't really care how hard the incursions are; it would be nice to have something like that in high sec. But we're not going into a Concord-summoned fleet (to defend high sec from Sansha) only to have Concord kill us (because some player wants to screw us over for saving the universe from zombies).
Obsidian Hawk RONA Legion RONA Directorate	Posted - 2011.01.27 17:35:00 - [47] So i tried a 10 man group last night. didnt go too well had some problems, but it is all a learning process. I myself am trying to be a better FC, but as with the first post yeah these sites are becoming heavily dependent on what ships you bring. So here is something i discovered 10 man - bring 3 logistics, preferably 2 guardians 1 onieros and have something like a phoon or a tempest transferring cap to the guadians, or a support domi doing the same.

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