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Crystal Avalon	Posted - 2011.02.01 17:16:00 - [91] Thanks for the replies :) Originally by: Hot Vherokior I detect many people are just downvoting everyone... it's silly the best rated characters still got a 60% of dislikes... makes no sense. I would track downvoters and kick them from the site (in example, users who rate low more than 70% of pics) Yeah I've removed a portion of the votes from voters who seemed to do mostly dislikes, so ranking may around shift a bit.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Sleeping Fury	Posted - 2011.02.01 17:57:00 - [92] hmm.. don't like the 1 to 10 system. too easy for people to just give 1s to everyone they don't like and 10 to people they do to have maximum impact on the rankings (which makes it the same as the binary one, except punishes the people who play honestly...)
Muna Kea	Posted - 2011.02.01 18:02:00 - [93] Originally by: Crystal Avalon Thanks for the replies :) Originally by: Hot Vherokior I detect many people are just downvoting everyone... it's silly the best rated characters still got a 60% of dislikes... makes no sense. I would track downvoters and kick them from the site (in example, users who rate low more than 70% of pics) Yeah I've removed a portion of the votes from voters who seemed to do mostly dislikes, so ranking may around shift a bit. While I respect that you are trying to be attentive to everyone's needs. Just stop. So you removed these things. Now peeps will just vote likes for all the dogs and their chosen main. You can't win or even find a fair solution for the EVE user base. So just find a solution you like and stick to it.
Kukiri	Posted - 2011.02.01 18:05:00 - [94] Originally by: Rawr Cristina hmm.. don't like the 1 to 10 system. too easy for people to just give 1s to everyone they don't like and 10 to people they do to have maximum impact on the rankings (which makes it the same as the binary one, except punishes the people who play honestly...) You like the system in which you have a high ranking and not the system you have a low one in? Hmmm... Kookie
Rawr Cristina Caldari Sleeping Fury	Posted - 2011.02.01 18:10:00 - [95] Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 01/02/2011 18:23:21 Originally by: Kukiri Originally by: Rawr Cristina hmm.. don't like the 1 to 10 system. too easy for people to just give 1s to everyone they don't like and 10 to people they do to have maximum impact on the rankings (which makes it the same as the binary one, except punishes the people who play honestly...) You like the system in which you have a high ranking and not the system you have a low one in? I was waiting for that. But yes, I'm a little biased, I won't lie nice of you to be proving my point for me though ♥
Rannz Minmatar Scordite Excavating Xenaphobe	Posted - 2011.02.01 18:11:00 - [96] Although I do like your site and the attempt to do something fun with the portraits, internet voting is easily manipulated. As many have said, you can simply down-vote to try and bump yours. You can log into the voting site using ANY character and do it over and over again. Removing votes because you feel they are skewed really doesn't solve anything. It's all in good fun though...kudos for taking the time to put this together and letting us all partake. I really enjoy checking out all of the cool portraits that people have done.
Kukiri	Posted - 2011.02.01 18:40:00 - [97] Originally by: Rawr Cristina I was waiting for that. But yes, I'm a little biased, I won't lie nice of you to be proving my point for me though ♥ As I didn't enter me, and I did very few votes before I was told they'd all been done, I'd say that I am being penalized for someone else voting with my name. I'm sure I'm not the only one this has happened to :( Sad little Kookie
Rawr Cristina Caldari Sleeping Fury	Posted - 2011.02.01 18:49:00 - [98] Originally by: Kukiri Originally by: Rawr Cristina I was waiting for that. But yes, I'm a little biased, I won't lie nice of you to be proving my point for me though ♥ As I didn't enter me, and I did very few votes before I was told they'd all been done, I'd say that I am being penalized for someone else voting with my name. I'm sure I'm not the only one this has happened to :( Sad little Kookie I voted you up btw.
Jenny Cameron Caldari Ordo Eventus	Posted - 2011.02.01 19:01:00 - [99] Originally by: Rannz Although I do like your site and the attempt to do something fun with the portraits, internet voting is easily manipulated. As many have said, you can simply down-vote to try and bump yours. You can log into the voting site using ANY character and do it over and over again. Removing votes because you feel they are skewed really doesn't solve anything. Wel as long as enough different people logon and vote the self-bumping effect won't be extremely strong. There's only 350 participants now though, still I don't think the effect has a very major impact, although a tenth or two more or less could be achieved that way. Although on the other hand, the very low scores on basically everyone - especially compared to the ¦rate the above avatar¦ thread - is quite suspicious. A 6,5 is already good for the top-100, that¦s not very likeley to be the result of honest voting. Effectively that means giving someone 'just' a 7/10 is already "bumping"?!
Hai Boiz	Posted - 2011.02.01 19:11:00 - [100] I do hate when the forums are wonky. This is my life, for pities sake. Anyway, I have an interest in this contest, so I've been comparing the scores between the two types of voting. What I've seen so far, is that for the most part, the scores between the two are fairly comparable. There are some glaring discrepancies that have me scratching my head, though. I guess if you really dedicated yourself you could certainly manipulate the scores over the course of a few days. But having to make all those trial accts just seems not worth the trouble to me. Or voting and deleting the char only to create a new one to vote again? How desperate would you have to be? I'll give you my thumbs up for this effort, Crystal. I don't think you could do much better. XX

Charity Terran	Posted - 2011.02.01 19:42:00 - [101] I get an "Invalid Character Name" error whenever I try to submit my character.
Suni Amatta	Posted - 2011.02.02 00:14:00 - [102] Originally by: Crystal Avalon Thanks for the replies :) Yeah I've removed a portion of the votes from voters who seemed to do mostly dislikes, so ranking may around shift a bit. So now you have everyone afraid to hit the dislike button. How does that fix anything?
Ambarenya	Posted - 2011.02.02 00:21:00 - [103] Elena <3 Best looking girl on there.
DeMichael Crimson Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2011.02.02 02:01:00 - [104] Actually, I think I'm about done with these threads and sites that claim to have a fair and just system of voting. I look at the top 100 Females and am really surprised that half of them are there. Guess there's no accounting for taste. Beauty may be in the eye of the beholder and love may make them blind but one thing is for sure, the neighbors aren't blind.
Corozan Aspinall Party Time Inc.	Posted - 2011.02.02 02:15:00 - [105] 'Very pretty,' said Zaphod petulantly.
Mystic5hadow Red Federation	Posted - 2011.02.02 05:37:00 - [106] Also, a nice addition would be if the rankings reset weekly, so new characters have a chance at beating the leaders. However, there should also be a past winners page where you can see who is highest ranked overall throughout the history of the site as well as maybe allow the ability to search previous weeks. So someone can be like "Hey, I was number one once. I'm so sexeh " :D
Crystal Avalon	Posted - 2011.02.02 05:51:00 - [107] Edited by: Crystal Avalon on 02/02/2011 05:54:28 Edited by: Crystal Avalon on 02/02/2011 05:53:56 Originally by: Muna Kea While I respect that you are trying to be attentive to everyone's needs. Just stop. So you removed these things. Now peeps will just vote likes for all the dogs and their chosen main. You can't win or even find a fair solution for the EVE user base. So just find a solution you like and stick to it. I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say? I just removed a couple of votes (about 1%) from about 5 users who voted only 1. All the 99% other votes seemed legit more or less. Originally by: Kukiri As I didn't enter me, and I did very few votes before I was told they'd all been done, I'd say that I am being penalized for someone else voting with my name. I'm sure I'm not the only one this has happened to :( Sad little Kookie Hmm and refreshing the page doesn't help? Originally by: Charity Terran I get an "Invalid Character Name" error whenever I try to submit my character. Seems like you got it to work :) Originally by: Suni Amatta Originally by: Crystal Avalon Thanks for the replies :) Yeah I've removed a portion of the votes from voters who seemed to do mostly dislikes, so ranking may around shift a bit. So now you have everyone afraid to hit the dislike button. How does that fix anything? Ratings have hardly changed so I don't think anyone is afraid of it really.
Commander Amy Stewart Caldari	Posted - 2011.02.02 06:34:00 - [108] Edited by: Commander Amy Stewart on 02/02/2011 06:40:37 The average scores are extremely low. I don't even get a 5.5! IRL I'm sure the average person would give someone like Amy at least an 8 and the ones in the top 10 a 8.5 to 10. A 6 should be about average, here a 7 already gets you a 5th spot and a 6 is top-35 out of 350+! The average is a 4.8?? So how am I supposed to vote? Everything prettier than me or with a better more artistic photograph a 6 or 7 and everyone that I think is not as nice a 1 - 5? This way rating someone a 6 is already bumping! I see the average dropping and dropping every hour. I stop voting this way, a 6 is supposed to mean 'ok'ish'. This isn't funny anymore.
Hai Boiz	Posted - 2011.02.02 06:48:00 - [109] Edited by: Hai Boiz on 02/02/2011 06:50:24 Originally by: Commander Amy Stewart Edited by: Commander Amy Stewart on 02/02/2011 06:36:11 The average scores are extremely low. I don't even get a 6! IRL I'm sure the average person would give someone like Amy at least an 8 and the ones in the top 10 a 8.5 to 10. A 6 should be about average, here a 7 already gets you a 6th or 7th spot and a 6 is top-50 out of 350+! The average is a 4.8?? So how am I supposed to vote? Everything prettier than me or with a better more artistic photograph a 6 or 7 and everyone that I think is not as nice a 1 - 5? I stop voting this way, a 6 is supposed to mean 'ok'ish'. This isn't funny anymore. Well, Amy, everyone likes to think they are attractive. And they think everyone else should as well. But we all have different tastes, thank goodness. Some people just aren't into the all American, big boned, square jawed beauty. Some prefer a more rounded, softer face, some like a little pudgy cheek to set things off and some like a big bold Slavic face to enjoy looking at. Thus you needn't wonder about your scores or how they compare to anyone else. They are what they are. You should just go ahead and vote as you want and are comfortable with. Never mind what you think others are doing. Be honest. The more that do, will eventually make those that don't an insignificant minority. XX Edit: Silly forums being silly
Commander Amy Stewart Caldari	Posted - 2011.02.02 07:05:00 - [110] Originally by: Hai Boiz Some people just aren't into the all American, big boned, square jawed beauty. Some prefer a more rounded, softer face, some like a little pudgy cheek to set things off and some like a big bold Slavic face to enjoy looking at. Thus you needn't wonder about your scores or how they compare to anyone else. They are what they are. You should just go ahead and vote as you want and are comfortable with. Never mind what you think others are doing. Be honest. I just refuse to vote this way, there's only 50 people voting anyway - of which a number of alts. And you're saying 90% of the avatars are really quite ugly because that's what a lower than 6 means. Well if I look around that's not really something I see as even remotely believable. I don't really have problems with people's preferences but the votes they give are very urealistic, especially if you compare them with what's given in the "rate avatar" thread. I'll come back when the average rating is a 6.0.

Nybel Shahni	Posted - 2011.02.02 07:26:00 - [111] Edited by: Nybel Shahni on 02/02/2011 07:36:47 This is worse than the other site. 5 should be average or just about. 5 is definetly not average here, in fact only 1 guy is over 5 and and most girls are under 5. Just goes to show how many people just vote low on others to get their own char up. The other site for all it's problems at least avoids that. Plus voting there is more fun.
Palpatine III Amarr	Posted - 2011.02.02 08:57:00 - [112] Maybe Adivah can show a graph of the decimal voting tally so you can clearly see how many people are down voting. If you see a lot of low numbers than you know what's going on.. Ex. You had 100 votes as a 1 and only 1 vote as a 10. I wonder what that means?
Barry Ze'Choppa Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.02 09:12:00 - [113] Um, in what universe is Claudia Vivienne hotter than Nadia Osipova? This is unjust!
Laura Locksley Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.02.02 09:15:00 - [114] Edited by: Laura Locksley on 02/02/2011 09:16:53 Originally by: Barry Ze'Choppa Um, in what universe is Claudia Vivienne hotter than Nadia Osipova? This is unjust! Aren't they twins anyway? edit: What just happened? All the ratings just magically got multiplied by 125%?
Barry Ze'Choppa Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.02 09:43:00 - [115] Originally by: Laura Locksley Edited by: Laura Locksley on 02/02/2011 09:17:42 Aren't they twins? Must say I really don't like that hairstyle anyway .. Zing-a-ling! Quote: edit: What just happened? All the ratings just magically got multiplied by 125%? I think the negative votes were edited recently to boost general ratings. They're calling it the "Player-hater focus transfer" system, or PFT!
Anne Arqui Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises	Posted - 2011.02.02 10:05:00 - [116] I'm really surprised people like my portrait so much! I guess the composition appeals to people one way or another?! I wouldn't rate her that high at all!
Saeki Sayoko Neaga	Posted - 2011.02.02 12:09:00 - [117] Would be interesting to see total number of competitors
Jennifer Starling State War Academy	Posted - 2011.02.02 12:16:00 - [118] Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 02/02/2011 12:16:40 Originally by: Saeki Sayoko Would be interesting to see total number of competitors Around 430 females atm, of which a significant number still waits for more votes. Just select "Top Females" and go next >> to the last page ..
Saeki Sayoko Neaga	Posted - 2011.02.02 12:20:00 - [119] i mean it won't hurt to add "Status" line at the bottom of the main page to display total number of registered players
Laura Locksley Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.02.02 12:25:00 - [120] Why does everyone like Achura and Jin-Mei so much? They occupy the complete top-15 (except 1 Gallente)!



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