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Frank Shitlitz
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Posted - 2011.02.12 00:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Gizznitt Malikite
A person AFK in a POS leaves a potential avenue for recourse (Kill the POS). There is no avenue for recourse from an AFK cloaker, and they DO represents a legitimate threat to carebear as soon as they return to the keyboard.
Returning to the keyboard is insufficient to be considered a threat. UNless they changed things and you can scram/pewpew/cyno whilst cloaked now. Once they uncloak they DO represent a legitimate threat and you DO have an "avenue for recourse".
Cloaks are a-ok from my perspective.
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Rented
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Posted - 2011.02.12 01:38:00 -
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Remove local so you can whine and cry at empty space since you can't actually tell if there's someone AFK out there or not.
Originally by: Larkonis TrassIer
Edited by: Larkonis TrassIer on 11/02/2011 00:25:54
Edited by: Larkonis TrassIer on 11/02/2011 00:16:29
I will expand on my previous point. Given the penchant for people running industrial or ratting ops in 0.0 to hide behind Cyno Jammers and JB networks at the end of a single pipe dogleg with 30 bubbles on the in gate there is literally NO OTHER WAY to have an affect on day to day alliance operations or get the chance of a kill.
Black ops don't have a long range, good intel channels and regular patrols will warn of threats as they emerge, not when they drop on you. Add enemy black ops pilots to your address books. Find out where they live. Have an AFK cloaker watching THEM so you know if they're forming up to come and get you.
HERE I MADE YOU A HANDY FLOW CHART OF ACTIONS AND OPTIONS TO TAKE IN THE EVENT OF AN AFK CLOAKER ENTERING LOCAL
Epic flow chart, you win the internet.
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Masta Gunna
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Posted - 2011.02.12 02:57:00 -
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Edited by: Masta Gunna on 12/02/2011 02:57:57
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Renan Ruivo
Caldari
Hipernova
Tribal Conclave
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Posted - 2011.02.13 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
The main problem here is the hot drop mechanics, not AFK cloaking
Current cyno hot drops are completely overpowered - they are instantenous and unscoutable. There needs to be some delay between cyno activation and ships appearing. There needs to be some way to know what's coming - at least as soon as cyno activates. And there should be options for mobile cyno jammers, that can block even cov ops cynos.
This isn't about cloaking at all.
This ^^
Cloaking is fine.
What you can do, how fast you can do it and how effective it is when you DEcloak is the issue.
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Darknesss
V0LTA
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Posted - 2011.02.13 11:55:00 -
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Sorry but I disagree with this.
If you're in a system with low enough security status to be in danger its up to you to protect yourself from that danger. Low sec and in particular 0.0 is SUPPOSED to be a dangerous place not a industrial haven.
0.0 in my eyes should always be rewarding but extremely dangerous, empire should be safe but less rewarding. Unpredictability of hotdrops make the game more interesting and also give some small advantage to the smaller alliances or corporations (hit and run tactics) which are dwindling with every patch released.
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Horizonist
Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet
Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2011.02.13 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Horizonist on 13/02/2011 19:39:11
Cloaking is fine, I frankly do not understand how a single cloaker, active or not, can cause this kind of havoc. We have cloakers in our ratting systems non-stop, that does not stop us from ratting. No disrespect meant, but if you cannot learn to cope with such a simple threat, then perhaps you are not ready for nullsec life.
Something that does need an overlook, however, are Hotdrop mechanics.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2011.02.14 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Horizonist
Edited by: Horizonist on 13/02/2011 19:39:11
Cloaking is fine, I frankly do not understand how a single cloaker, active or not, can cause this kind of havoc. We have cloakers in our ratting systems non-stop, that does not stop us from ratting. No disrespect meant, but if you cannot learn to cope with such a simple threat, then perhaps you are not ready for nullsec life.
Something that does need an overlook, however, are Hotdrop mechanics.
Be prepaired for a non fail cloaker to arrive soon.
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Corina's Bodyguard
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Posted - 2011.02.14 00:28:00 -
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My view is this. The worst a single cloaker can do is be a bomber and **** my ratting BS or Hulk. The only reason it is a threat is because of the hot dropping mechanics. The cloaker himself is not much of a threat.
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Ephemeron
BeerTia Maniacs
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Posted - 2011.02.14 02:15:00 -
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Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Be prepaired for a non fail cloaker to arrive soon.
Can you send some my way as well?
I'll be in Delve, system PDE-U3, the more the merrier
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