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Jan Zainade
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Posted - 2011.02.14 02:33:00 -
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Hi guys, i've recently got into exploration and encounter 2 escalation so far which eventually leads to low sec at the last end of the chain.
As my intention is just to finish the escalation which is initiated from Hi-Sec. What ship and equipment should i fit which i can pass through the gate and get to my escalation destination, finish the quest with the current ship and get back to hi-sec in 1 piece?
I'm Amarr trained and specialized in gunnery.
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St Mio
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.02.14 05:25:00 -
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Cloaky unprobeable Tengu works for doing escalations in lowsec, no idea if a Legion can be set up for something similar.
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.02.14 05:35:00 -
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Most low-sec is pretty dead, to be honest. Just make sure to add probes to your overview and spam D-scan like a ***** once you get to the site. If you get caught on the gate, burn towards the gate you came from and if they aggress, jump through (DO NOT AGGRESS FIRST). Once in site, spam D-scan and RUN if you see combat probes.
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Tarasina
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Posted - 2011.02.14 06:46:00 -
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It's almost impossible to get caught at a gate in lowsec if you have a cloak (covert ops cloak). Click "Warp to" and cloak up immediately. Use subsystem Covert Reconfig on a T3 ship.
A stealth bomber might work too but if you are fighting frigates it is gonna take ages.
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Jonni Favorite
Red Slice Enterprise The Company LLC
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Posted - 2011.02.14 07:08:00 -
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The gates are not as much of a problem as getting probed inside the plex and a cloaked ship provides warp in for all his buddies.
Tengu works, or BC/HAC, stay aligned to something inside plex, dscan as you go along.
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Misanthra
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Posted - 2011.02.14 07:13:00 -
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hit up scrapheap challenge's pve thread. Lots of pve fits for all races, many of them spec'd for ninjya pve out of empire.
Whatever ship you bring, cloak, fast and agile the norm. Cloaky to wait out people looking for you, agile and fast to have a chance to beat gate camps. Not all of them are the instalock setups.
Unprobable works as well...not sure how expensive that is on the legion. KNow on tengu its a bit pricey if you want to run fury heavy missiles with the talon implants.
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Jan Zainade
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Posted - 2011.02.14 07:23:00 -
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I dont usually find plex in low-sec. Too high a risk.
And i believe the escalation that i activated from hi-sec and leads me to low-sec is only applicable to me since its shown up in my journal? So the moment i warp into a gate in low sec, i will select warp to location from my quest journal?
Because at the end of the escalation, most likely i will need to fight the rats. So some defense and firepower is needed for me to finish the quest chain.
But usually the rats is not too diff since it all started from completing 4/10 plex that leaded to the escalation.
I'm thinking of a cheap ship/fitting just in case thing goes wrong,
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St Mio
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.02.14 07:37:00 -
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If he's only doing the escalations in lowsec then he doesn't need to worry about people scanning down the signature/anomaly, he just has to have his ships unprobeable and not use any drones. Tengu and Loki are easy to make unprobeable, as are stealth bombers for your alt(s).
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Jan Zainade
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Posted - 2011.02.14 07:45:00 -
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Ouch! i can only fly legion. My skill is too focus on amarr tech. :(
Legion able to do that?
What i hope to do is
Warp into low-sec and i wont be detected by anyone camping at the gate. I will warp to my escalation destination. Finish up the rats there, get my loots and get the hell out of there.
Any advice? I did some read up and it seems stealth bomber will be an issue as there will be plenty of frigs and drones from the escalation quest. And i may need to face up with some BS.
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Soldarius
Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.02.14 07:52:00 -
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I would highly recommend the unprobable Tengu. With that fit, you should be able to run a 4/10 easily enough, and you won't have to worry about anyone scanning you down. Otherwise, whenever someone enters the system, you'll have to start spamming d-scan for combat probes.
If the system in question is on the edge of hisec, there is a good chance it will see regular traffic. Though that depends on the area. Check your star map to see how much traffic goes through that system.
If you do run the plex in a probable ship, make sure to stay aligned as much as possible. Gates, planets, whatever. Even if a fast-locker decloaks right on top of you, if you are aligned at speed to a bracketed celestial, you should be able to escape.
Originally by: CCP Shadow ...I cannot guarantee (my) sobriety or decency.
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Jan Zainade
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Posted - 2011.02.14 08:31:00 -
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tengu is still quite far away to train to skill to use them. even longer to train for Loki.
Hmm...
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Jonni Favorite
Red Slice Enterprise The Company LLC
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Posted - 2011.02.14 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Jan Zainade tengu is still quite far away to train to skill to use them. even longer to train for Loki.
Hmm...
Until then, fly what you can afford to lose. The rewards of an escalation can easily offset the possible loss so it's worth doing.
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Jan Zainade
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Posted - 2011.02.14 09:15:00 -
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Ok, thanks for the advice! :)
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DeMichael Crimson
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:05:00 -
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One Nanofiber_Internal_Structure_II mod in the low slot and a Covert_Ops_Cloaking_Device_II mod in the high slot should do just fine to sneak into low sec.
Depending on your skill level and also how you fit up your ship.
After jumping into low sec system while still under gate cloak, click on a planet and warp to 30 or 80 km range and activate the Cov Ops cloak asap right after clicking the 'warp to' command.
You should be aligned and going into warp about the time the gate cloak wears off and in less than 1 second, the Cov Ops cloak will be on.
After reaching that planet, quickly warp to another planet again set at a far range. After that you can warp to where ever you want as long as it's set to a far range so as not to decloak you.
Doing that will insure that nobody is following you. Now you can make some safe spots and check out local chat to see what kind of traffic is in the system. Don't talk to anyone and don't answer any private convo's. Also check the starmap stats for amount of players docked and active. You can compare that with the amount of players listed in local to get a rough idea of how many players are actually in space. After a while you'll know how active the system is.
When you think the system is quiet enough for you or if the expedition timer in the journal is getting low, warp to the site location while cloaked. The expedition timer gives you 24 hrs to get to the site location and when you warp to the site, it'll give you another 24 hrs to complete it. Make sure you have beacons showing in your overview and bookmark the site beacon and then warp back to one of your safe spots. Now you can warp to a far range from the site beacon while cloaked and check out what type and how many NPC's are at the site.
You can check Evelopedia or Goggle to find info on the site or expedition name to see what object or ship needs to be destroyed for the grand prize (Faction loot). If you destroy the Overseer (Structure or NPC) and warp out, the site will despawn so if you want to kill all NPC's, destroy the Overseer last. However, if it's a busy system, you might want to kill it first, warp out and wait a few minutes for the site to despawn, then go back and collect the prized loot.
Just something else to consider. Ship wrecks will show up on Directional Scan so other players could use that to find your location. You might not want to have a bunch of wrecks left floating round in the site location.
Good luck.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jan Zainade I dont usually find plex in low-sec. Too high a risk.
And i believe the escalation that i activated from hi-sec and leads me to low-sec is only applicable to me since its shown up in my journal? So the moment i warp into a gate in low sec, i will select warp to location from my quest journal?
Because at the end of the escalation, most likely i will need to fight the rats. So some defense and firepower is needed for me to finish the quest chain.
But usually the rats is not too diff since it all started from completing 4/10 plex that leaded to the escalation.
I'm thinking of a cheap ship/fitting just in case thing goes wrong,
DED 4/10 do not escalate. No DED plex escalates. Unrated combat sites can escalate and that is what you got, most likely [faction] Watch or Vigil.
These can be finished in any of the T3 with an unprobable setup. Use the covert op setup to get into system, but swap to the proper offensive subsystem once in system (be careful on the undock).
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The Djego
Minmatar Hellequin Inc.
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Posted - 2011.02.14 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: The Djego on 14/02/2011 12:40:11 Use a standard PVP nano Harbinger, with a set of small ECM drones against tacklers.
Watch local and scanner(both max range for ships and 2 AU for combat probes) and you will be fine. Move out as you see combat probes at the 2 AU range, take a break and continue 20-40 Minutes later. Most parts of low sec are barren and not filled with players, even more 1-2h before and after DT. ---- Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Tarasina
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Posted - 2011.02.14 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: The Djego Edited by: The Djego on 14/02/2011 12:40:11 Use a standard PVP nano Harbinger, with a set of small ECM drones against tacklers.
Watch local and scanner(both max range for ships and 2 AU for combat probes) and you will be fine. Move out as you see combat probes at the 2 AU range, take a break and continue 20-40 Minutes later. Most parts of low sec are barren and not filled with players, even more 1-2h before and after DT.
Confirming that people get bored usually within 20 minutes, if they can't find you (you are cloaked/unprobable).
What I do is warp to a planet at a certain distance, a planet far away. I make a safespot on the way there. As soon as I land, I warp to safespot. Always being cloaked. I have never been followed in lowsec from gates, that problem is worse in nullsec though. I ALWAYS get followed =). Very few gates are camped in lowsec, usually just the entrance to lowsec-system. On the way back, just warp to zero on that gate, spam JUMP and you are safely through to hisec.
No bubbles in lowsec so jumping to zero on gate is possible and what I use most.
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