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Karbowiak
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Posted - 2011.02.17 23:03:00 -
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A little bit about EVSCO: EVSCO is currently the largest killboard hoster in EVE, with the very open killboard EVE-KILL. Ontop of that, EVSCO has around 4500 active killboards, for several of the largest and most influential alliances in EVE, not to mention the myriad of corporations and pilot killboards that are out there. On a daily basis EVSCO gets more than 100k unique visits from all over the globe.
EVSCO was created back in 2007 by Beansman (HyperBeanie), Karbowiak (same ingame) and Ralle030583. Both Karbowiak and Ralle030583 having run public, corp, alliance and pilot killboards already, knew how to make stuff work - while Beansman contributed coding experience and terrible humor (Which we grew to like ) -----------------------
EVSCO is currently looking for a coder, that is able to take our ideas and visions and translate into proper useable code. What you will be coding in is PHP. While using Memcached, Varnish and MongoDB.
What we expect of you: ) Able to make competent and good code ) Able to use IRC (and by use, i mean use it whenever you are at the computer) ) Have a sense of humor, you have to talk to two Danes whom have very weird definition of whats funny .
What we will give you in return: ) ISK, lots of ISK ) Ability to get whatever you want hosted on some powerfull hardware, just like YOU want it (Who doesn't want powerfull hardware behind their creations? ) ) Good online friends ) Coding for arguably the biggest EVE-Online fansite
Before we can decide if we want you to do the job, you must present some already working code that you have created - so we can determine if you are the right person for the job.
If all of this sounds like something you might be interested in, please reply here or drop on to IRC. http://evsco.net/?a=support Click on IRC #1 or IRC#2 (1 is java applet, 2 is mibbit)
Looking forward to your reply 
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Thiole
Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2011.02.18 00:32:00 -
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i might be interested, wrote some code in java, c++ (few years on and off) and basic( i know, its lol but its a good starter), php is something i wish to learn on the side, but i dont feel i could learn it quick enough for you, but im applying anyway
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Ms Sexy
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Posted - 2011.02.18 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: Ms Sexy on 18/02/2011 00:35:56
Considering your website brings in real life cash through the advertisements you have on it, will you pay with real cash instead?
It sounds stupid to pay a developer ingame moneys to do up a site that brings in real cash. If real cash is offered il be willing to offer my portfolio.
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Frenko
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Posted - 2011.02.18 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Sexy Edited by: Ms Sexy on 18/02/2011 00:35:56
Considering your website brings in real life cash through the advertisements you have on it, will you pay with real cash instead?
It sounds stupid to pay a developer ingame moneys to do up a site that brings in real cash. If real cash is offered il be willing to offer my portfolio.
They probably use the money from ads to pay hosting bills.
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Code Base
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2011.02.18 09:48:00 -
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Sounds tempting, but with only one week experience in Eve I doubt I have a clue what I am programming ^^
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Karbowiak
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Posted - 2011.02.18 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Thiole i might be interested, wrote some code in java, c++ (few years on and off) and basic( i know, its lol but its a good starter), php is something i wish to learn on the side, but i dont feel i could learn it quick enough for you, but im applying anyway
If you are really interested, you can always help out and still recieve some money (ISK) for your effort :)
Originally by: Ms Sexy Edited by: Ms Sexy on 18/02/2011 00:35:56
Considering your website brings in real life cash through the advertisements you have on it, will you pay with real cash instead?
It sounds stupid to pay a developer ingame moneys to do up a site that brings in real cash. If real cash is offered il be willing to offer my portfolio.
Offering real cash via EVE-O isn't allowed. But its something that can be discussed via IRC.
Originally by: Frenko
Originally by: Ms Sexy Edited by: Ms Sexy on 18/02/2011 00:35:56
Considering your website brings in real life cash through the advertisements you have on it, will you pay with real cash instead?
It sounds stupid to pay a developer ingame moneys to do up a site that brings in real cash. If real cash is offered il be willing to offer my portfolio.
They probably use the money from ads to pay hosting bills.
Which is correct :)
Originally by: Code Base Sounds tempting, but with only one week experience in Eve I doubt I have a clue what I am programming ^^
Basically, it will be about getting as much information out of a killmail from EVE, as possible - and presenting it in a way that is both good on the eyes, and (yeah this is corny) on the soul. Yeah i went there 
Anyway i will be on IRC from now and the next 12ish hours. So feel free to come by and chat with me and Beans :)
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PsyKzz
Minmatar Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2011.02.18 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: PsyKzz on 18/02/2011 10:52:26 I would be more then happy to apply.
I've been coding with PHP for about 3/4 years nothing professional but lots of different work. I have also got over a years experiance in, LUA JAVA C++ and JS.
Also working for isk is not the reason i would want to apply but more because of what your team has accomplished so far, and what they could accomplish in the future i really wouldn't mind becoming apart of it.
Portfolio, omgglikeitspsyk.info/jackknife
Also i have something quite unique but it is really not for the eyes of the forums. It is an in house Alliance project but i can get details and a brief look at if you require.
PsyK
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HyperBeanie
Phantom Squad En Garde
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Posted - 2011.02.18 11:20:00 -
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To specify a bit more in detail what we need:
You: 1) Should be able to code php fluently and have references that we can check up on! ..a) Should feel at home in MVC frameworks (no specific yet) ..b) Should feel at home using "proper" object oriented design in php (yada yada, php doesn't do that.. we know, but still try!) ..c) Write pretty, understanble, well-commented code 2) Should have knowledge about NoSql (MongoDB in our case) ..a) Yes, new technology! You don't have to be pro in nosql, but you should know what it is and what it looks like! 3) Should have knowledge about memcached ..a) We want to use memcached as an object style cache ..b) ... if you can convince us that memcached is not neccesary, it can be removed 4) Be good at designing stuff (html5, css, javascript, ajax, ...) ..a) ... or you/we can find someone to do this. 5) Have extensive knowledge of eve! ..a) No use to have a coder that doesn't know what a killmail looks like or what it does 6) Be prepared to change direction or recode something if it's not working out the first time. 7) Want your code to be public ..a) Yes, we want to make this project opensource as soon as it's ready to go. ..b) No, you wont be allowed to make money on it, but you can run it as a corp/alliance board or as a free service for people.
No one says the above have to be one person. We can link together a team of people and run it from there.
We: 1) Will review, test and (maybe) accept your code ..a) we have profesionals to do this 2) Will supply hardware for testing ..a) if we don't have it already, we get it. 3) Will be online to laugh, whip, help, contribute, yell, smack, shoot, drink, eat, jump when you need it 4) Will supply you with challenges, sprints, defeats and great friends! 5) ... and lots and lots and lots of isk....
If the profile sounds like something you can supply, and we sound like someone you might like. Come join us as Karb has described. EVSCO - Free and Paid killboards - Get yours today! |

Karbowiak
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Posted - 2011.02.19 14:28:00 -
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Looks like the beanie scared everyone away 
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Karbowiak
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Posted - 2011.02.20 02:04:00 -
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Sofar 4 people have expressed interest. More are always welcome. And dont feel scared over HyperBeanie's post 
If you feel like you want some insight into what we are doing before thinking about jumping aboard, feel free to look at https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/236901 :)
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Vixe Ruoh
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:05:00 -
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Edited by: Vixe Ruoh on 20/02/2011 14:06:50
- When you speak of "good code", may I take a look at some snippets of the current codebase?
- Are you on any PHP Framework? If so, which one?
- What libraries are you using?
- In which way is the project management provided?
- How much time do you expect from your team members?
- What kind of servers are you currently running? (hardware & software)
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Karbowiak
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Karbowiak on 20/02/2011 14:37:58
Originally by: Vixe Ruoh Edited by: Vixe Ruoh on 20/02/2011 14:06:50
- When you speak of "good code", may I take a look at some snippets of the current codebase?
- Are you on any PHP Framework? If so, which one?
- What libraries are you using?
- In which way is the project management provided?
- How much time do you expect from your team members?
- What kind of servers are you currently running? (hardware & software)
) Currently there is no code, so there is nothing to see - but we know what good code looks like, or atleast - Peter does  ) We are using King23 MVC Framework, its created by PeterPowers http://king23.net/ ) We are using King23 + Pheal + whatever else we create ourselves. (Or choose to use from elsewhere) ) Project management happens via Pivotal Tracker, IRC, Github ) We expect the time you decide to put into it. This isn't a job, and you aren't paid real money - so we cannot say you HAVE to work on this x hours a day. ) Server spec wise, we will get what is needed for it. Currently EVE-KILL runs on a 16core AMD Opteron with 32GB Memory, with a Database on a Core i5 with 8GB Memory and 2x 80GB Intel SSDs in RAID1.
If you have more questions, feel free to ask them  Also hope i answered your questions satisfactory
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nalgok
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Posted - 2011.02.20 23:12:00 -
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From your posts it reads like you currently only have people with idea's and no one with programming skills, or at least no one with the intention to put down some code. Why is that?
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Karbowiak
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Posted - 2011.02.21 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: nalgok From your posts it reads like you currently only have people with idea's and no one with programming skills, or at least no one with the intention to put down some code. Why is that?
Neither me nor Beans have the time (actually, i have the time - but i fail at PHP, lol) Which is why we want people to help out.
Ontop, we decided to make the entire thing GPL, and release one(two) versions that will work for large scale hosting, and as a personal board (pilot, corp, alliance etc.) aslong as you have the skills needed to set it up and operate it.
But to answer your question, we dont have the time, and thus want people to do the dirty work while we delegate and pay isk. 
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nalgok
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Posted - 2011.02.21 00:38:00 -
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I don't have time to start a project from scratch, but I may have time when the project has some base code to do bug fixes and small features.
about 5 to 6 years of PHP development on various projects. I can point to specifics in private, but mostly big projects.
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Consortium Agent
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Posted - 2011.02.21 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Consortium Agent on 21/02/2011 11:42:43 While I'm not applying for the position (since I despise PHP), I do have a suggestion for you guys as you move forward in your development...
Please expose eve character, corporation and alliance ID's in your URLs - instead of (or in addition to) your internal id's - this would allow linking directly to Eve-Kill.net from other sites based on the EVE character, corporation and alliance id values. Currently we have to scrub (sc****, but apparently sc**** is a bad word here lol) your site to get your internal ID's and store them for direct linking (e.g. http://www.reportbots.com/).
Otherwise you guys have an excellent site and have done excellent work - I look forward to seeing EK reborn with a new team!
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2011.02.21 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Consortium Agent Please expose eve character, corporation and alliance ID's in your URLs - instead of (or in addition to) your internal id's - this would allow linking directly to Eve-Kill.net from other sites based on the EVE character, corporation and alliance id values. Currently we have to scrub (sc****, but apparently sc**** is a bad word here lol) your site to get your internal ID's and store them for direct linking (e.g. http://www.reportbots.com/)
Without wanting to go too much off topic in here, the fact that you are scr_aping the site is a failure on your part, not theirs. Example: http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_ext_id=537935459 --
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GizzyBoy
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Posted - 2011.02.21 13:31:00 -
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Let me know if you need some asp.net :P
Yeah I know booo hisss etc, still it works.
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HyperBeanie
Phantom Squad En Garde
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Posted - 2011.02.27 11:59:00 -
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This has been a major success so far!
The project will be controlled by us, meaning that we will assign tasks to people. So, the more the better! Come join us!
We pay in ISK! EVSCO - Free and Paid killboards - Get yours today! |

Ji'txi Mu'rah
Amarr 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.02.28 02:55:00 -
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Is this only for coders who know PHP?
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Karbowiak
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Posted - 2011.02.28 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ji'txi Mu'rah Is this only for coders who know PHP?
JavaScript, CSS, HTML5 are also welcome. But if you only know say, C#, C++ etc. there aren't much use for you as such.
Unless you like really complicated stuff, which wont just help EVE out, but _ALOT_ of people. But anyway, come onto IRC and have a chat with us. Maybe hang out and see if you can pitch in :)
Co-Owner and Creator of EVSCO |

Ji'txi Mu'rah
Amarr 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.02.28 22:36:00 -
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Ah, I only know java and a little of python :( not much help there lol, but good luck.
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Kari Trace
Caldari Foyu Trading World
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Posted - 2011.03.02 13:51:00 -
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What the hell..
/emotes throws in hat for position.
You should have received an EVEmail from me last week some time. Get back to me when you have a minute.
KT
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HyperBeanie
Phantom Squad En Garde
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Posted - 2011.04.01 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: HyperBeanie on 01/04/2011 22:37:49 Edited by: HyperBeanie on 01/04/2011 22:37:40 Bump.
UPDATE: Please drop by if you have ANY of the above skills. We will do the management of ressources ourselves and delegate work to the correct people. So if you feel you can do something that helps us, drop by and have a chat! We pay in isk!
We have actually started coding on this, and we are still looking for people. The ones that joined us (and the few that we could really use), have abandoned the project.
So if you are one of the people that left, COME BACK! And if you are a new one, that want to get involved. COME JOIN!
/Beanie EVSCO - Free and Paid killboards - Get yours today! |

Chickin Man
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Posted - 2011.04.02 03:51:00 -
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I have 10 years of PHP, javascript, css, html coding experience. I have a lot of spare time rite now and would love to help you guys.
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JaredC01
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.04.02 09:08:00 -
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Haven't done too much work in PHP creation in a while, though if there's anything I can help with, by all means let me know.
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2011.04.02 15:52:00 -
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Can I ask why you're basing a massive project on a framework that nobody has ever heard of, that nobody has ever worked with, that nobody will ever hear of, that nobody will ever work with, that it self-describes as "King23 is a small and simple MVC Framework for PHP, it is still in an pretty early development state, and should not be considered full production ready."??
Frankly I've done a lot of programming on backend, middleware, mvc, web, blag blag blag. So I could help and might even be interested in doing so. But considering the vast number of production ready php frameworks out there ... why this framework?
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Peter Powers
FinFleet Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.04.02 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Zeta Zhul Can I ask why you're basing a massive project on a framework that nobody has ever heard of, that nobody has ever worked with, that nobody will ever hear of, that nobody will ever work with
where is this hate comming from?
Originally by: Zeta Zhul why this framework?
http://devedge.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/king23-benchmark-playing-a-numbers-game/
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2011.04.02 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: Zeta Zhul on 02/04/2011 18:54:28
Originally by: Peter Powers
Originally by: Zeta Zhul Can I ask why you're basing a massive project on a framework that nobody has ever heard of, that nobody has ever worked with, that nobody will ever hear of, that nobody will ever work with
where is this hate comming from?
Originally by: Zeta Zhul why this framework?
http://devedge.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/king23-benchmark-playing-a-numbers-game/
1. List of PHP Frameworks
2. SourceForge.net list of PHP Frameworks
3. Benchmarks? That's your reason for using a framework is ... benchmarks??

4. If benchmarks are that important then by God let's inline all the code. Old-style PHP straight ahead. Damn the object orientation and encapsulation, let us leave behind the detritus of include files and their benchmark killing performance loss! We may be mortals but we will code ... as Gods!
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention Middle of Nowhere
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Posted - 2011.04.02 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Zeta Zhul 3. Benchmarks? That's your reason for using a framework is ... benchmarks??

His reason is that he wrote the thing. And you really seem to be having a bad day? --
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