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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2011.02.19 17:36:00 -
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If you trust Helicty with the key or not that's one thing .. but saying there is no risk in giving out your FULL API is just a lie/stupidity tbh. Will Helicity or the killboard owner do anything with this information? I don't know, I don't care, but the potential is there .. "use an alt/don't send emails during event, can get POS locations anyway! etc LOLOLTROLL" responses forget the fact that the API can pull data PRIOR to the event also doh amongst other things .. but again anyone with sensitive information giving our their full API key might as well lose their stuff anyway, that's EVE/darwin for you.
I've checked the killboard a few times, it's quite fun .. couldn't believe it within hafl an hour many billions of isk were already blown up lol H4 is good for traders, that's for sure :)
(p.s. why is it FULL key rather than limited? Is that needed to verify simple kills? If so at least the upcomming API changes will fix that issue .. )
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Jet'leia
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Posted - 2011.02.19 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: Jet''leia on 19/02/2011 17:41:08
T3 bearship gankage? theres noting stopping you shooting at a T3 at anytime!
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.02.19 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jet'leia Edited by: Jet''leia on 19/02/2011 17:41:08
T3 bearship gankage? theres noting stopping you shooting at a T3 at anytime!
Well, I can't really play EvE since 2 months ago and won't for the next 3 :S - Auditing & consulting
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Jet'leia
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Posted - 2011.02.19 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Jet'leia Edited by: Jet''leia on 19/02/2011 17:41:08
T3 bearship gankage? theres noting stopping you shooting at a T3 at anytime!
Well, I can't really play EvE since 2 months ago and won't for the next 3 :S
Fair nuff
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kiyoukan Zhichao
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Posted - 2011.02.19 21:15:00 -
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36 Mackinaws 8 Retrievers 2 orcas Minning in Osmon (The Forge) ice field 1 there are 2 other ice fields full of bots. So form a fleet and clean this system out! This is and has been one of the largest bot systems, i stayed awake and watched them all come back seconds after down time going right back to their rocks.
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fgft Athonille
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Posted - 2011.02.19 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson
That concludes this topic as far as I'm concerned, I don't spend endless hours working on this event to waste some more on people that are just paranoid psychotics with a chip on their shoulders.
while you can claim whatever you want, it is being stored, it is saved, it is viewable and it can be used to the full extent of all the information it gives. you would have just have to grab it once, and put all the resulting xml data into a database. sure, the victim could see you grabbed all of it, but that won't help them once its all fed into the database.
and cry some more that your scam got found out.
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TokiWartooth Joringer
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Posted - 2011.02.19 22:14:00 -
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Dude seriously wtf is wrong with you. did helicity steal your online gf or something, blow you up while you were site seeing? i mean seriously why you have such a hardon for the guy, and trolling him over and over. Seriously im not sure you are damaging helicity at all, but you sure are making yourself look like an ass.
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Alotta Baggage
Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail
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Posted - 2011.02.19 22:19:00 -
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He knows you can change your API key whenever you want, right?
Originally by: Magnus Andronicus ur character looks like a f***ing clown dude.
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Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2011.02.19 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: fgft Athonille Edited by: fgft Athonille on 19/02/2011 21:52:51
Originally by: Helicity Boson
That concludes this topic as far as I'm concerned, I don't spend endless hours working on this event to waste some more on people that are just paranoid psychotics with a chip on their shoulders.
while you can claim whatever you want, it is being stored, it is saved, it is viewable and it can be used to the full extent of all the information it gives. you would have just have to grab it once, and put all the resulting xml data into a database. sure, the victim could see you grabbed all of it, but that won't help them once its all fed into the database.
and cry some more that your scam got found out.
e: for those white knighting helicity, i'm a nigerian prince who needs to bestow my wealth to you, my long lost heir. i need you to upload all your personal information, your bank account information, and any form of identification information assigned to you by your government. don't worry bro, i will only use it so i can check who you are, and i am not malicious in the slightest
Troll or alt going for hatemail award?
When you get this tooned banned for being one of them weird, dellusional stalking troll types that most likely needs rl meds and help.. please do post with your main. The words of an alt have no weight.. you're irrelevent, perhaps you wish you were.. as evident by your crazy efforts. But if you post with one of your mains.. it may add merit or weight to the words you type.
It's funny.. all these people talking about gankers having lack of balls, courage, 'look for real' PvP fights, aren't 'man-enough'.. do so through the cloak of an alt hiding whom they really are. Ironic. ---------------------------------------- Treat the EVE markets like you are its Pimp.. it is your 'willing' employee to fondle n use n abuse as you please. |
fgft Athonille
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Posted - 2011.02.19 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Umega When you get this tooned banned for being one of them weird, dellusional stalking troll types that most likely needs rl meds and help.. please do post with your main. The words of an alt have no weight.. you're irrelevent, perhaps you wish you were.. as evident by your crazy efforts. But if you post with one of your mains.. it may add merit or weight to the words you type. .
Alt or not, im not lying to you. you are putting info into a 3rd party website, anything and everything could happen to it. the people running the event have absolutely nothing stopping them for exploiting full api keys to their advantage
also, a nice cheap laugh at you thinking im going to get banned for pointing out that giving out information to 3rd party websites may not be safe, as that is the very same thing ccp tells you when you go to retrieve your full api key.
if you want to vest your effort in a internet crusade, ask for ccp to make an api key that is just killmails only. it would be a better use of your time
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Zora'e
Amarr Nocturnal Dementia
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Posted - 2011.02.19 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: fgft Athonille ask for ccp to make an api key that is just killmails only.
This is the first really reasonable statement you have made that I can agree with. -
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Sebastiann Kane
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Posted - 2011.02.20 00:01:00 -
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I was so against this hulkaggeddon but now i realise that i am totally with it. There are so many idiots in this game that still mine and work on autopilot even when the deaths are racking up.
Any chance you could start killing people in my alliance as we are full of idiots
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Alotta Baggage
Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail
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Posted - 2011.02.20 01:08:00 -
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1001 ships killed by day 2, this is going to be the best hulkageddon ever
Originally by: Magnus Andronicus ur character looks like a f***ing clown dude.
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Set'Ti
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Posted - 2011.02.20 01:28:00 -
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Why aren't you tracking losses?
Just curious
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Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2011.02.20 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: fgft Athonille Alt or not, im not lying to you. you are putting info into a 3rd party website, anything and everything could happen to it. the people running the event have absolutely nothing stopping them for exploiting full api keys to their advantage
also, a nice cheap laugh at you thinking im going to get banned for pointing out that giving out information to 3rd party websites may not be safe, as that is the very same thing ccp tells you when you go to retrieve your full api key.
if you want to vest your effort in a internet crusade, ask for ccp to make an api key that is just killmails only. it would be a better use of your time
I think you're going to get banned cause you belittle someone in every single one of your posts and are stalking Helocity across the forum, that's being a spamming troll.
Maybe you should rethink your approach on YOUR current 'Internet Crusade' and re-tool in a manner that people might actually listen.. instead of feeling like they are being attacked, and thus.. are going to attack back in swarms. Which, imo.. you certainly deserve.
You should shut up.. and try thinking for a moment, and go about this with tactical precision.. instead of some raging loon. That is.. if you're actually legit in your grief, which is funny.. Hulkageddon griefed you, without doing anything in game to you. Priceless.
I personally think Helocity is legit in his statement that he wants to be respected and remembered like Chribba.. that would be a better approach. Scamming Hulkageddon is pointless.. for what, 30b? That's peanuts to past scams.. and the event itself is far bigger than any other scam that has taken place. The legacy that is Hulkageddon will be far remembered than scamming it. Anyone can scam, easily in this game. Very few can successfully run an event like this.. that grows beyond each previous one.
You try making sure thousands of KMs are legit without API to make sure the winners are actual winners.. then come here and talk ****. The only concern should come from the 'middle man' in all of this more so than the event runners. Focus your raging, unfounded claims elsewhere til you got something more than lack of prozac and a twitching typing finger. ---------------------------------------- Treat the EVE markets like you are its Pimp.. it is your 'willing' employee to fondle n use n abuse as you please. |
fgft Athonille
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Posted - 2011.02.20 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Umega
I think you're going to get banned cause you belittle someone in every single one of your posts and are stalking Helocity across the forum, that's being a spamming troll.
not going to get banned for helpfully warning the eve community about the risk they are taking. consider it an extension to the warning you received retrieving your full api key.
thanks for playing, please try again.
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Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.02.20 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Alotta Baggage 1001 ships killed by day 2, this is going to be the best hulkageddon ever
NEEDS MOAR IN WORMHOAL SPASE
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Dahghda
Meatshield Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2011.02.20 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Set'Ti
Why aren't you tracking losses?
Just curious
Any ship on any killmail is lost.
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2011.02.20 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dahghda
Originally by: Set'Ti
Why aren't you tracking losses?
Just curious
Any ship on any killmail is lost.
Not *quite*. We are also counting 'friendly fire' kills..in case some of you bad bad people managed to get alts into mining corporations and want to play that way.
But yes, the vast majority of the time the ships used in the killing will all die. And for purposes of hulkageddon, are unimportant since we are not tracking isk efficiency. This is an all-out shoot-em-up of industry. King of the heap gets the prizes. --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Lors Dornick
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.20 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Zora'e
Originally by: fgft Athonille ask for ccp to make an api key that is just killmails only.
This is the first really reasonable statement you have made that I can agree with.
Reading CCP Prism X's devblog indicates that CCP agrees on this.
// Lors |
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Perri Arody
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Posted - 2011.02.20 02:53:00 -
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http://hulkageddon4.machine9.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1645
Man that's gotta hurt.
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Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.02.20 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: Perri Arody http://hulkageddon4.machine9.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1645
Man that's gotta hurt.
Holy WTF. It doesn't even need to be Hulkageddon for that to be stupid.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.02.20 07:43:00 -
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I was thinking about this: why does Hulkageddon end?
I mean... we know CCP does nothing tangible to fight against the bots so we are on ourselves to save their game
At the same time we also know that the day after Hulkageddon ends, the bots will ALL be back and happy like nothing happened. In fact the idiots you are killing are a fraction, most of the "pro" botters I know (nine Macks 23/7 and similar) stopped ATM. The very system I often visit that has a solid 85 macros, at Hulkageddon day 0 only counted 26, *before* any gankage happened. The others are stored & ready to start again.
So, why not create Hulkageddon On Demand? IE an ongoing "perpetual" version where participants still win prizes but all around the year. Volounteers report botters in a private chat and participants are notified and can go clean up. Most efficient participants win prizes. - Auditing & consulting
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DoNotTouch
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Posted - 2011.02.20 09:18:00 -
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so, who is making the corporation named "we kill the botters"
like a merc corporation, just specialized on ganking. call them ingame in their channel, pay a price (low, since its easy to do and done in time.) and your mining enemy (botter or not) will be blown to pieces.
i love my ideas.
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Dirk Decibel
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Posted - 2011.02.20 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I was thinking about this: why does Hulkageddon end?
I mean... we know CCP does nothing tangible to fight against the bots so we are on ourselves to save their game
At the same time we also know that the day after Hulkageddon ends, the bots will ALL be back and happy like nothing happened. In fact the idiots you are killing are a fraction, most of the "pro" botters I know (nine Macks 23/7 and similar) stopped ATM. The very system I often visit that has a solid 85 macros, at Hulkageddon day 0 only counted 26, *before* any gankage happened. The others are stored & ready to start again.
So, why not create Hulkageddon On Demand? IE an ongoing "perpetual" version where participants still win prizes but all around the year. Volounteers report botters in a private chat and participants are notified and can go clean up. Most efficient participants win prizes.
And who is going to pay for all the ships and prizes?
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Marconus Orion
Global Criminal Countdown
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Posted - 2011.02.20 11:01:00 -
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Let's go people! Need to see more industrial kills. There is 20 Dramiels to be won!
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2011.02.20 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Decibel
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I was thinking about this: why does Hulkageddon end?
I mean... we know CCP does nothing tangible to fight against the bots so we are on ourselves to save their game
At the same time we also know that the day after Hulkageddon ends, the bots will ALL be back and happy like nothing happened. In fact the idiots you are killing are a fraction, most of the "pro" botters I know (nine Macks 23/7 and similar) stopped ATM. The very system I often visit that has a solid 85 macros, at Hulkageddon day 0 only counted 26, *before* any gankage happened. The others are stored & ready to start again.
So, why not create Hulkageddon On Demand? IE an ongoing "perpetual" version where participants still win prizes but all around the year. Volounteers report botters in a private chat and participants are notified and can go clean up. Most efficient participants win prizes.
And who is going to pay for all the ships and prizes?
The 0.0 ratting botter alliances, to give the impression that they are anti-bots! The circle will be complete then.
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Toshiro GreyHawk
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Posted - 2011.02.20 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I was thinking about this: why does Hulkageddon end?
I mean... we know CCP does nothing tangible to fight against the bots so we are on ourselves to save their game
At the same time we also know that the day after Hulkageddon ends, the bots will ALL be back and happy like nothing happened. In fact the idiots you are killing are a fraction, most of the "pro" botters I know (nine Macks 23/7 and similar) stopped ATM. The very system I often visit that has a solid 85 macros, at Hulkageddon day 0 only counted 26, *before* any gankage happened. The others are stored & ready to start again.
So, why not create Hulkageddon On Demand? IE an ongoing "perpetual" version where participants still win prizes but all around the year. Volounteers report botters in a private chat and participants are notified and can go clean up. Most efficient participants win prizes.
Well, in a sense it never does end ... gankage goes on all the time - it's just that it's not 'as' organized.
If you tried to run it full time - you'd have trouble getting a lot of prizes to always be available. Someone may well be willing to fork over a hefty chunk of ISK several times a year but on a continuing basis? No.
By having a whole bunch of people offing prizes at the same time - you get a lot more enthusiasm for the event. If it was going on all the time you'd just have scattered, random prizes.
The other thing is - it's my understanding that there is a lot of preparation by the participants in getting their security status high so they'll be able to come into Hi Sec and stay there longer before becoming KOS. After the event is over ... there's probably a lot of security status recovery that has to go on. All that takes some time. By having the event at a scheduled time - everyone can get ready for it, participate and then recover.
Events are more fun with lots of participants. If it was done full time you'd have the participants diluted by security status recovery and ... having to do things like raise money for the expenses they've incurred.
Like I said - it does go on all the time ... just not as a big event. That would just be to hard to sustain.
Or so it seems to me anyway.
*shrug*
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Evil Aye
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Posted - 2011.02.20 12:05:00 -
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Mmmm, 340 exhumers by day 2.
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Chiana Moro
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.02.20 12:13:00 -
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I am severly disappointed. The other me has 17 retriever for sale in Stacmon. Come on people ... I need to get them sold
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