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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.02.20 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Infinitio Krystallos
Between this laziness and the Botters, does anyone REALLY play EVE with any strategy at all ? Very few apparently.
Obviously not you since you haven't the hint of a clue what you're on about. Amusing drivel but still drivel
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.02.20 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kolo Matoska If the life of your blockade runner depends on your tank, its dead no matter what you have fit.
Blockade runners have two defenses: Stealth and speed. Get caught, you die. No amount of tank will change that.
Yep, there's no better tank than being elsewhere. All non-combat pilots should be adept at this tanking ability as that's the only (reliable) tank they'll ever have. --------
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I AM SPARTACUS
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Posted - 2011.02.20 07:53:00 -
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Guys OP was just trying to embiggen his ego and make himself feel superior by stomping on those guys who lost ships. But instead you guys stomped him instead. I guess he doesn't feel so embiggened now.
I AM BLOCKADICUS!
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Cygnus Zhada
Viziam
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Posted - 2011.02.20 07:59:00 -
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Because outside Hulkageddon haulers never die on gates!
Moreso, the OP laughing at people who don't tank their covert hauler just shows he has no fekking clue on the whole thing. Same for the DS transport "lulz no shield booster" nonsense. Apart from that, if you're SO happy about killing 4 haulers on a low sec gate that you have to make a post about it... dear god, that's pathetic.
OP, you fail HARD.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Sigma Special Tactics Group Fleet Coordination Coalition
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Posted - 2011.02.20 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: Koragoni SkyKnight Edited by: Koragoni SkyKnight on 19/02/2011 22:24:23 Edited by: Koragoni SkyKnight on 19/02/2011 22:23:26 Low Sec = Small Gangs usually, and if you're flying that blockade runner properly there is likely only one ship that can put a point on you before you vanish. In these cases, a single stab will send you right out of the field.
My Prorator aligns in 4 seconds, by the time the cloak engages and the ship starts moving the guys on the gate have less than 1 second of actual reaction time to lock it. And even then, without an interceptor to bump it, or a bubble to stop it, the thing is gone.
Those ships are almost as good at running as the Cov Ops frigate. Flown properly they simply can't be caught. This thread is dead on, learn to fit the ship, and learn to use it. These things are designed to penetrate bubble camps, and they can do so!
That said, all I fit is buffer. Tanks in a PvP situation just don't work.
Is this a situation where relying on skills to avoid getting shot in the first place and to hell with any tanking is the right choice?
I don't fly these things but I was wondering about this. Are there "tanking" or fighting fits that ruin a blockade runner for the intended purpose?
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ReclyeMe
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Posted - 2011.02.20 08:20:00 -
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Krystallos I am not sure I see what Hulkadeddon has to do with low sec/0.0 kills of Transports. I am guessing if the same guys were out hanging out and saw a transport they kill it Hulkadeddon or no Hulkadeddon. Maybe if you post about some getting kill in high sec it might be good for a laugh, but other then that I dont see why a transport getting killed needs a thread.
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Cygnus Zhada
Viziam
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Posted - 2011.02.20 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer I don't fly these things but I was wondering about this. Are there "tanking" or fighting fits that ruin a blockade runner for the intended purpose?
A BR doesn't have to tank, the covert cloak is his tank and even if he wanted to, you can't put any sort of useful tank on the anyway. Only possible "tank" one might need is a shield extender against smartbombs but even then it won't do any real good. Midslots on a BR normally are MWD, ECM burst and "whatever else".
DS transport is sort of the same thing, sure it gets an active tanking bonus but the niche situation where he would JUST survive because he used his shield booster is... very unlikely. If anything, fit shield extenders. DS uses kinda the same setup as a BR but instead of covert cloak you fit a T2, because with MWD, some istabs/nanos and a T2 cloak you can easily use the cloak/MWD trick in low sec.
So yes, the OP lolling about killing haulers on a gate, enough to make a post on it, is already sad. Him lolling about the ships not using a tank is.... worse.
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Double Dee
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.02.20 08:34:00 -
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the reason for all the senseless attacks on haulers, even those with no cargo at all, is due to a certain attention seeking ***** who put up a prize for 20 dramiels and a badger for the person with the most haulers kills. so instead of just targeting macro miners they are going after legitimate people who are just minding their own business not even in a damn asteroid belt.
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.02.20 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Kolo Matoska If the life of your blockade runner depends on your tank, its dead no matter what you have fit.
Blockade runners have two defenses: Stealth and speed. Get caught, you die. No amount of tank will change that.
This is wisdom. By the way, real men biomass when they emoragequit.
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Thenoran
Caldari Tranquility Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.20 09:41:00 -
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Why on Earth fit Warp Stabs on a Blockade Runner? You're not supposed to get locked in the first place.
CovOps Cloak + 3/4s align time + 2km/s MWD speed = your defense.
The only thing I got on my Crane that may feel strange is ECM Burst for if I get bumped while cloaked or something like that. Anything that manages to catch your Blockade Runner will be able to kill it or get friends to do it instead. ------------------------ Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...
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Stray Kat
Kat's Den
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:01:00 -
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I've recently been trying my hand as a transport pilot. I would be interested in hearing about recommended loadouts and some constructive post to help better those that are new to them. I had found this loadout and have been running with it successfully so far. HP Crane Thoughts?
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Stray Kat I've recently been trying my hand as a transport pilot. I would be interested in hearing about recommended loadouts and some constructive post to help better those that are new to them. I had found this loadout and have been running with it successfully so far. HP Crane Thoughts?
Killed a crane in null recently with better stats than that. Logs say it lasted 23 seconds from scram to popping (I was in Cynabal). You get scrammed and you're dead, hell you get pointed and you're dead.
Forget about invuln/shield hardeners. You'd be better off slapping shield extenders on it for buffer and a couple of resist (or mobility) rigs.
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:18:00 -
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Blockade Runners are made out of papier-mGchT. If you get locked, you are a dead man.
The *ONLY* reason why you would EVER fit a warp stab is if you are worried about lag in low sec. And then this will only protect you from a single point. If they have a scram or multiple fast tacklers, you are a dead man even with your stab.
The *proper* way to fit a blockade runner is cloak/MWD+ECM Burst/Cargo expanders+nanos . After you have this fit, the trick is to figure out how to pilot the thing. The main pointer that blockade runner pilots should pay attention to is to make sure that the server receives the cloak activation signal after your ship drops gate cloak and activates the MWD.
Most blockade runners opt for cargo expanders because they find that their cloak works well enough that it is worth the slightly increased risk over other mods. Remember that there is no such thing as invulnerability in EVE. You WILL get popped sooner or later. The trick is to make enough money so you can afford to replace your gear after you DO get caught and popped. Cargo expanders help to make more money faster. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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catinboots
Minmatar Vintage collective
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:29:00 -
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sothis is about cloacky transports , but what about the other versions like the bustard , they seem to have a decent tank and their build in WCS bonus
Opinion
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There be dragons
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:31:00 -
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Edited by: Othran on 20/02/2011 14:31:10
Originally by: catinboots sothis is about cloacky transports , but what about the other versions like the bustard , they seem to have a decent tank and their build in WCS bonus
Opinion
My opinion is that you didn't read the thread. Try again.
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B0X
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.02.20 14:44:00 -
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I have a br, it's full cargo fit including tech2 cargo rigs. I only ever use it in empire and a large part of my time in low sec. I've had the same BR, since the change to covert cloak use.
Why would you waste slots, fitting for anything but cargo space?
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Aunty Nora
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Posted - 2011.02.20 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Infinitio Krystallos And a 5th down, another Prorator.
Tanked with passive shields amazingly, but no Shield Booster which these ships get a freaking Bonus on.
And again not a warp stabber in sight. Again, in 0.4 system. Sigh
hahaha keep fitting everything to your ships that it has a bonus for please nub. seriously, fitting a shield booster on a prorator is stupid, bestt to just get a buffer tank, if you get caught, you get caught, no crappy small booster is going to help.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
Gallente Bison Industrial Inc
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Posted - 2011.02.20 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: I AM SPARTACUS Guys OP was just trying to embiggen his ego and make himself feel superior by stomping on those guys who lost ships. But instead you guys stomped him instead. I guess he doesn't feel so embiggened now.
I AM BLOCKADICUS!
Wrong.
Thanks for all the great advice from everyone on how to truly use these ships. Incredibly helpful. Switching myself to bufffer, but leaving warp stabbers just for duration of H'geddon. They did save me once already when I had a delay at a Custom's station pickup.
Posting your fantasies about OP motivations for posting, such as the above, is a little strange methinks. Completely useless and unhelpful. I bet it's been a decade since you expressed an opinion like that to somebody's face in actual RL.
But thanks everyone else ! **************************
"God is nothing but the power of the Universe, as a whole, to organize itself." - Lee Smolin Three Roads to Quantum Gravity |
Batolemaeus
Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.02.20 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Batolemaeus on 20/02/2011 17:42:47 Actually, there is one valid shield booster fit for a blockade runner.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.02.20 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 20/02/2011 18:06:42 I think existing haulers should get some upgrades and new haulers to be designed. New haulers can warp out of bubbles or at least counter bubbles.
Bubbles are things that break the game for me.
When I was a newbie, I ventured into 0.0 and got myself into a bubble. It was a horrific experience. --------- Sent from my BlackBerry. |
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Batolemaeus
Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.02.20 18:50:00 -
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Having run expensive cargo through countless bubble camps, I laugh at your inability to get past them.
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.02.20 19:54:00 -
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I always fit all my cargos for allign time. Core stablilizers don't do Jack nor #&%&! when they are cycling weapons before the lock. It's Hulkageddon, they aren't scanning you! They are out to kill you! RUN you idiots.
A) Don't get INTO a situation (check calendar "Hulkageddon") B) If you absolutely MUST get into it...make sure they won't get a lock. LOCK!! NOT LOCK + SCAN!!! LOCK!
C) Make a run for it....with an industrial against pimped lockers? Oh yeah... So...use a cloak...wait for someone not too brainy to get ganked, make a run for the gate.
Originally by: CCP Shadow Dr. Sheepbringer -- It's not that kind of horn.
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Miyu Tenes
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Posted - 2011.02.20 20:26:00 -
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Poly rigs and nano's. More cargo than your cov ops, and align and warp speed to boot.
Infinitum, you're a moron. If you even so close as to get pointed, you failed as a blockade runner. Not even a pro one.
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Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2011.02.20 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox Wait you can fit a mwd on these things now? i thoguth they removed that.
They don't have a ton of grid, so you can usually choose either a MWD or some shield extenders, not both. |
Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.02.20 20:37:00 -
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Shouldnt this be in Crime & Punishment like the other hulkageddon whines?
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.02.20 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
Originally by: Nova Fox Wait you can fit a mwd on these things now? i thoguth they removed that.
They don't have a ton of grid, so you can usually choose either a MWD or some shield extenders, not both.
Shield extenders, istabs and MWDs increase sig radius, so they are not always the best option Especially if it is laggy enough to make your cloak lag by a second or two. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Mighty Dread
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.20 21:17:00 -
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Are you flying through high-sec/low-sec or null sec? There's a difference and that difference I believe is the ability to use smart bombs in null sec. In low-sec/high-sec you want agility to fast align and accelerate to warp speed. You are also doing the align-AB-cloak-decloak-warp "trick". A couple of WCS is worth slotting in on the rare case someone manages to lock you. You want to keep going to warp and doing so will save your hide more than anything else.
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AFK Master
AFK Chartered System Management
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Posted - 2011.02.20 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mighty Dread Are you flying through high-sec/low-sec or null sec? There's a difference and that difference I believe is the ability to use smart bombs in null sec. In low-sec/high-sec you want agility to fast align and accelerate to warp speed. You are also doing the align-AB-cloak-decloak-warp "trick". A couple of WCS is worth slotting in on the rare case someone manages to lock you. You want to keep going to warp and doing so will save your hide more than anything else.
1. This thread is about the BR, which can warp cloaked. 2. It's a MWD that's used in that trick, because the AB does not give you enough speed for it. 3. WCS are fail, have you never heard of the scripted HIC?
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Mighty Dread
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.02.20 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: Mighty Dread on 20/02/2011 21:41:48
Originally by: AFK Master
Originally by: Mighty Dread Are you flying through high-sec/low-sec or null sec? There's a difference and that difference I believe is the ability to use smart bombs in null sec. In low-sec/high-sec you want agility to fast align and accelerate to warp speed. You are also doing the align-AB-cloak-decloak-warp "trick". A couple of WCS is worth slotting in on the rare case someone manages to lock you. You want to keep going to warp and doing so will save your hide more than anything else.
1. This thread is about the BR, which can warp cloaked. 2. It's a MWD that's used in that trick, because the AB does not give you enough speed for it. 3. WCS are fail, have you never heard of the scripted HIC?
Ah, I stand corrected. I forgot Transports can warp cloaked. I was also completely unaware that HICs can use a script to bubble low sec. I thought they were regulated to null sec. I assume they still have to lock you though and if you are only a blip on the radar for 1 second I don't think they can grab yah. I never tried going against one however.
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AFK Master
AFK Chartered System Management
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Posted - 2011.02.20 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mighty Dread Ah, I stand corrected. I forgot Transports can warp cloaked. I was also completely unaware that HICs can use a script to bubble low sec. I thought they were regulated to null sec, and I've never seen a bubble in low sec.
The script gives it an infinite point, to allow Supercarrier scrambling. That's why WCS are pointless. Pardon the pun.
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