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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.23 02:09:00 -
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Working as intended.
Also, don't cross post.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.23 02:21:00 -
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If you actually read anything about Incursions you'd know that the final loot is supposed to be up for grabs. You are guaranteed isk for sites + LP after the Mom is killed. The loot from the Mom is just like any other loot.
This isn't WoW or some other MMO. Loot is yours yes, but you still have to retrieve it. The mechanics are there for you to get the loot back. Don't come crying on the forums cause some guy stole your loot. Do something about it in game. |
XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.23 02:29:00 -
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Sounds like you should just go to low sec or accept that your loot is not safe in high sec until its in your cargo.
CCP is not going to change loot mechanics because of this
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.23 02:43:00 -
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You like making assumptions I take it?
I've participated in a few low sec incursions and a few high sec incursions. Haven't had a problem with ninjas yet. And if we did, I wouldn't come to the forums to cry about it.
Are you really telling me your 80 man fleet couldn't stop a ninja?
And like I said before, you already get the LP/isk. The loot is a bonus.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.23 02:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Wtf Pwnage
It was a 60 man fleet plus another 60 man armor fleet (apologies) so 120 total, and no none of us could stop him. If it was a shuttle, ok smartbomb the Mom, but if it's a bit bigger, but insanely fast, then gg. And if it's "just a bonus" why even offer it?
Have remote sensor boosted ceptors on standby to kill people like this?
Adapt.
Would you prefer CCP remove the bonus then? Seriously, the isk/LP you get from Incursions is more than enough. Not to mention the fact that it was a phantasm BPC and TS PDS? You do realize thats a total of about 120 million isk right?
You are complaining about 1mil isk/person.
Think about that for a second.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.23 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Wtf Pwnage
It should also be possible to stop them.
It is.
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What I am saying is the latter is not possible, due to the amount of time it takes to steal, versus identifying, scramming, and asploding.
Configure your overview properly. Have ceptors on standby ready to tackle thieves. Think outside the box for a solution instead of whining to CCP
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And if you're wrong, you get Concorded. Pretty broken to me.
Its not broken. This is Eve. This is how things work.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.23 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Wtf Pwnage
Edited by: Wtf Pwnage on 23/02/2011 03:10:45
You know what, you can come to our next Incursion. We'll hold 100M of your isk in escrow, and you can be Fleet Captain of the Anti-ninja-looting fleet. Do whatever strat you think works. If you prevent the ninja, you get your monies back. If not, well...that's eve huh.
Would be nice to put isk where your mouth is. If not, don't post inane "solutions."
Whats inane about those solutions? Too complicated for you? Interceptor would have tackled that AF just fine.
And I thought the isk didn't matter?
Also its only 2 mil of mine apparently since its a 60 man fleet 
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.23 03:21:00 -
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Edited by: XXSketchxx on 23/02/2011 03:23:39
Edited by: XXSketchxx on 23/02/2011 03:22:06
Originally by: Wtf Pwnage
It doesn't, I'm just thinking of a way to make sure you take a risk as well. hell I'll even give you 100M more if you stop him. It really isn't about the money. Like I said, I'm willing to bet 100M you can't stop them. You should be willing to at least come out to try.
Risk as well? What are you risking? The loss of 2 mil? 
Anyway, message me when the next high sec incursion is coming to a close and I'll see if I can come by. Somehow I doubt most of the people in your fleet can even fly/fit ceptors or know how to configure their overview properly 
Edit: Have Ceptors a couple hundred km out of range. When the mom is close to die, burn in. They should be low on target priority and shouldn't have to deal with much.
One question. Is the thief from your fleet? Cause if so, you have an entirely different problem: your fleet is not a fleet, but a ragtag bunch of individuals looking out for themselves.
If he is not from your fleet, you can easily configure your overview to not show fleet members and thus be able to pick out the thief rather quickly.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.23 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Wtf Pwnage
To answer your question...there's no real way of knowing. Might be. Might not be. However, it is HIGHLY unlikely that a thief in our fleet would ever ninja loot (the last time it was Itc, as mentioned, who was not in our fleet), because the immediate consequence of ninja looting is never getting an invite from our group ever again. With that said, I don't think people you grind with and know from days and days of Incursions are going to risk ninja-looting in-fleet, so it's almost always a rogue element.
Then as I stated, you should be able to setup your overview such that you won't have to pick through 120 people to find the thief.
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XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
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Posted - 2011.02.26 04:38:00 -
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How about a 30km Warp disruption field where the mom is with a ton of HP? 
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