You all can bet your arses these responses all come from Goons!

Not the only reason of course, but it didnGÇÖt help either and a much more professional approach should have been expected if eve players actually wanted to help to keep the game entertaining and solving the problem at that time.

Since than, the forums, and the most visited General Discussion in particular, started to see a flooding of created threads about how bad CCP is. How bad their service is, How bad the game is. How bad other players are. Not to mention the grieving is getting worse and worse.

And do not be fooled here. You might see a lot of those threads made by GÇ£non-eve playersGÇ¥ characters. But they are eve players characters (pets or otherwise), it is the way they roll.
Now factor in that they recruit scam constantly. One guess for the main target? Yes, players who barely got their feet down in EvE. They also troll every fair question of people that just started playing in a way that makes EvE look like a pool of drug /alcohol abusing psychotic maniacs.

Now wonder why EvE has trouble retaining new players?
Ever notice how many threads like that come from worried fellow capsuleers?

So if I disagree with everything you posted does that make me a goon?

So if I disagree with everything you posted does that make me a goon?

Bahahaha! If Frying Doom's a goon I think I'll die.

I'de say blind or better, blinded.

Why do I like eve online? to generate good content like this op.

I'm sorry that was either a use of extreme sarcasm or you are very ill indeed.

Might I suggest a medical transport just to be sure and make sure that you are not desperately in need of padded walls and a straight jacket.

People like Chribba, while obviously extremely well known and liked person in the game, do not create as much buzz than people like Mittens and the goons in general. Speaking from the perspective of a former carebear (up to recently), the Burn Jita incident was one of the most fun events in the last 12 months or so. Going to null and saving Chribba's system once, while fun, didn't make that lasting impression.

mittens and others can be sad, repulsive little people

but so long as the csm/ccp don't let people like that have too much power or take their opinions on the direction/development of the game as being more valid than anyone elses then it isn't an issue

I agree with everything the OP says.

I'm neutral on this issue.

I think the OP is an idiot.

Are you saying this is a bad thread?

Also, if you are a goonswarm tackler, please know that GÇ£tacklerGÇ¥ is just a polite term for meat shield. It is not fun for you, you are being used, and every resource you have gets depleted. Regardless of ship replacement program. You are a resource as well you know! You could have spent that time actually enjoying, exploring, looking into other gameplay features, built up some fat ISK wise and maybe create your own corp one day or even an alliance. This pretty much goes for 90% of you people in goonswarm.

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Also, if you are a goonswarm tackler, please know that GÇ£tacklerGÇ¥ is just a polite term for meat shield. It is not fun for you, you are being used, and every resource you have gets depleted. Regardless of ship replacement program. You are a resource as well you know! You could have spent that time actually enjoying, exploring, looking into other gameplay features, built up some fat ISK wise and maybe create your own corp one day or even an alliance. This pretty much goes for 90% of you people in goonswarm

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Have you considered bringing them up feeds their egos?

What is currently preventing the other alliances from teaming up against Goons?

You all can bet your arses these responses all come from Goons!

Everywhere I go, there I am.

It's a conundrum!

So it was the Goons, who convinced CCP to release Incarna and add MTs that led to the massive unsubs, which caused CCP to layoff 20%. Mittens you cunning **** you.

TBH the whole cyberbully thing was such a coward's way out to shed responsibility of 'greed is good gold ammo and space barbies' just come out and own your mistakes Mittens we know you did it.

It's funny how everyone bitches about Goons in approximately all the other threads, but as soon as a thread like this comes up, or someone actually tries to do something about Goons, the only people you hear from are people supporting the Goons.

I can't speak to the individual incidents or people in Goonswarm, recognizing the fact that there are A-holes everywhere but my impression of Goonswarms impact is for the most part globally positive. I certainly have swapped paint with Goons on the battlefiled with thankless and idiotic members and traded typos on the forum with what I can imagine are the worse of their bunch so I can understand the perception that "all Goons are XXXX curse words", but ultimately you can't judge an alliance of thousands of players by the actions of a few tards.

In a discussion about "what have Goons done for the game globally", I can't help but be hard press to name something they did that didnt turn out to interesting at the very least. Obviously some things are bad for certain players, Hulkegedon for example was probably bad for people flying Hulks, but at least its an event, something is going on in the game... its pulse is beating.

Just in recent events like putting a spotlight on the failure of WiS or with Mittans new suprisingly well written and informative website it seems to me Goons are good at least for meta game to the benefit of the Eve player at large.

Sure we can ***** about things... I don't care for high Tech prices, nore do I particularly like facing 20 to 1 odds in a fight against them, but for every action they take that traumatizes someone it creates opportunities for everyone else.

People who get Eve know that large alliances like Goonswarm are opportunities to the activities of the individual not involved and opportunities to those that are.

So in short, Goons and other large alliances are creating content for all. They are pushing their weight around to improve the game and doing so successfully and they ensure that their is a population on the server every day keeping CCP in business. If I have to put up with the occasional tard in game or on the forum who thinks because he is a Goon that somehow he is a step above me, I welcome it. But its worth noting that they are not the only Alliance overflowing with individuals that belong in straight jackets and who's opinions generally circle the proverbial toilet , it seems its tradition for jackelopes to join large Alliances and take credit for their activities as if they had accomplished them by themselves. So blaming Goons for the existence of such characters is silly.

Logically, mittens got banned and actually got off easy IMO. He also GÇ£resignedGÇ¥ as CSM 7 Chairman.
He then officially apologized only to state to seek revenge after receiving the ban. Burn Jita.

...... I would just change the one in relation to the CSM
He actually resigned from CSM 6 (with the term almost completed) and was ineligible for CSM 7 because of the ban.

I can't speak to the individual incidents or people in Goonswarm, recognizing the fact that there are A-holes everywhere but my impression of Goonswarms impact is for the most part globally positive. I certainly have swapped paint with Goons on the battlefiled with thankless and idiotic members and traded typos on the forum with what I can imagine are the worse of their bunch so I can understand the perception that "all Goons are XXXX curse words", but ultimately you can't judge an alliance of thousands of players by the actions of a few tards.

In a discussion about "what have Goons done for the game globally", I can't help but be hard press to name something they did that didnt turn out to interesting at the very least. Obviously some things are bad for certain players, Hulkegedon for example was probably bad for people flying Hulks, but at least its an event, something is going on in the game... its pulse is beating.

Just in recent events like putting a spotlight on the failure of WiS or with Mittans new suprisingly well written and informative website it seems to me Goons are good at least for meta game to the benefit of the Eve player at large.

Sure we can ***** about things... I don't care for high Tech prices, nore do I particularly like facing 20 to 1 odds in a fight against them, but for every action they take that traumatizes someone it creates opportunities for everyone else.

People who get Eve know that large alliances like Goonswarm are opportunities to the activities of the individual not involved and opportunities to those that are.

So in short, Goons and other large alliances are creating content for all. They are pushing their weight around to improve the game and doing so successfully and they ensure that their is a population on the server every day keeping CCP in business. If I have to put up with the occasional tard in game or on the forum who thinks because he is a Goon that somehow he is a step above me, I welcome it. But its worth noting that they are not the only Alliance overflowing with individuals that belong in straight jackets and who's opinions generally circle the proverbial toilet , it seems its tradition for jackelopes to join large Alliances and take credit for their activities as if they had accomplished them by themselves. So blaming Goons for the existence of such characters is silly.

......... but you do have to respect them,......

Also, if you are a goonswarm tackler, please know that GÇ£tacklerGÇ¥ is just a polite term for meat shield. It is not fun for you, you are being used, and every resource you have gets depleted. Regardless of ship replacement program. You are a resource as well you know! You could have spent that time actually enjoying, exploring, looking into other gameplay features, built up some fat ISK wise and maybe create your own corp one day or even an alliance. This pretty much goes for 90% of you people in goonswarm.

Thats true untill propaganda starts to be interpreted as fact and disables retention of new players and makes EvE look bad to the "outside" world.

stuff about fox news

Sensibly written good Sir.

I will repeat a previously posted comment:

Thats true untill propaganda starts to be interpreted as fact and disables retention of new players and makes EvE look bad to the "outside" world.

Heh the "drawing in more new players" argument, has been abused by everyone from space barbie wis freaks to dumb high sec rights activists christ just stop.

Truth should be told as often as possible since wickedness runs faster.

Your link to fox news does not help your argument Sir.

All I get out of these posts is a feeling of jealousy. We are a group that has fun at your expense. We are an exclusive club that you can't join that's better than you. I'd imagine for most nerds, it is just like high school all over again.

All I get out of these posts is a feeling of jealousy. We are a group that has fun at your expense. We are an exclusive club that you can't join that's better than you. I'd imagine for most nerds, it is just like high school all over again.

People like Chribba, while obviously extremely well known and liked person in the game, do not create as much buzz than people like Mittens and the goons in general. Speaking from the perspective of a former carebear (up to recently), the Burn Jita incident was one of the most fun events in the last 12 months or so. Going to null and saving Chribba's system once, while fun, didn't make that lasting impression.

Burn jita... boring **** of goons sitting around a HS station not careing as passive tech income = $$$$$$$ to throw ships away with?

Yep. Was alot of fun...

If you think that was fun you are ********.

YUO GUYS ARNT RELLY HAVIGN FUN
YUO JUST DONT KNOW IT
BUT TRUST ME I KNOW FUN
AND YUO ARENT HAVIGN IT

YUO GUYS ARNT RELLY HAVIGN FUN
YUO JUST DONT KNOW IT
BUT TRUST ME I KNOW FUN
AND YUO ARENT HAVIGN IT

First you will have to ask yourself, do you like EvE Online?

It is not fun for you

If somebody thought burn jita was fun they are probably a miner. Those guys think anything is fun.

...this would be the point I would put that devil smile in, but man, I really can't stand that thing.

Who plays a game they don't like?

Guess again. I was out there with a week old alt shooting stuff and grabbing the contents of wrecks, and I've never mined for more than 15 minutes or so. The fun came from the whining of people like you two, the tears of people who lost expensive stuff because they were too dumb to realize what was going on.
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Again a well formulated argument

I'm so sad at burn jita because they totally ganked me when i was basing out of Amarr.

The whole thing was because mittani was so ass hurt about being banned for a month. Which is silly because he got extremely lucky. Things like that deserve a permaban.

So how does this radiate outwards?

Because I was talking about retention bit initially also about attracting, hence my previous comment.

Anyways, to the viewers of this here thread.
(5 pages filled within the hour)

Pay close attention, a lot can be learned from the "techniques" that are now being fielded.
They also underline the accusation.

The whole thing was because mittani was so ass hurt about being banned for a month. Which is silly because he got extremely lucky, Things like that deserve a permaban.

Some day one of these rants will be written by someone fluent in English, and on that day the world will end.

I don't take any stand on why it happened, nor do I care about it to be honest. In my opinion Mittani deserved a ban, much longer than what he got too. He didn't, end of story as far as I'm concerned.

That still doesn't change the actual event, depending on how you approached it , there was lots of fun to be had. Same as all events ranging from stuff like the beforementioned Holy Veldspar fleet to save Chribba, the ice interdiction stuff etc etc. Goons are great at what they do, make content for a large portion of EVE's userbase, there's simply no one else who does it on such a large scale. And again, that doesn't take any stand on whether I like the goons or not, that is completely different thing.

Good question and very "on topic". not kidding.

Anyways, to the viewers of this here thread.
(5 pages filled within the hour)

Pay close attention, a lot can be learned from the "techniques" that are now being fielded.
They also underline the accusation.

That eve is the last unadulterated eden of a sandbox. Or you can go o7m8/dance in f2p korea land.

No take the example of https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146459&find=unread
In the beginning I and others trolled, then actual discussions started happening.
This is a shitthread and isn't it heart-breaking.

Burn Jita was planned for months.

[lmao, content.

What content? The entire thing was the result of mittani's butthurt. The entire event was just a reflection of mittani's rage and tears. Pretty funny at how mad he got....but that isn't content.

The only people that did anything were the gankers, the rest of participants either got blown up for no reason or had to experience massive amounts of lag because there were too many people in jita. I don't see that as "creating content" for anybody.

And your a shitposter goon alt, but you don't see me complaining do you?

What content? The entire thing was the result of mittani's butthurt. The entire event was just a reflection of mittani's rage and tears. Pretty funny at how mad he got....but that isn't content.

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TBH the whole cyberbully thing was ...

And your a shitposter goon alt, but you don't see me complaining do you?

As much as you want this to be true, it really was planned well in advance.

Like said, look past the butthurt and think about the event a bit. The reasoning that started the whole thing doesn't even matter, unless you're one of the parties directly affected by the said reason. For the rest of us, completely detached from goons or the guy who was told to kill himself, it was an opportunity to blow stuff up and make huge piles of isk while doing so.

You seem to demand some kind of narrative or lore behind any new content before it can be classified as content. Guess what, in a player driven game world you don't get any of that. Sure you can pick up pieces from here and there to make up your mind on the background of the whole thing (ie. the ban and the events leading to the ban, the posts from goons saying how it was all planned before the whole ban thing etc etc), yet if you don't partisipate in the actual action you're missing out all the fun. Your first post belittled the fun one could have in there, but at the same time it's prettyy obvious that you yourself didn't actually do anything during the event. That's not the goons fault, or mine, or anyone elses but your own.

I think you need one or two more posts like that, it might work.

But you highsec rights activists already complain with every post lol

Who cares. Stop posting, biomass, and get back to Somethingawful.

Also, since goonswarm is losing the war now

Who cares. Stop posting, biomass, and get back to Somethingawful.

Who cares. Stop posting, biomass, and get back to Somethingawful.

stuff

I think you need one or two more posts like that, it might work.

GOON THE NERFSWARM


also holy crap I refreshed twice during this and each time there were new posts, is this butthurt thread really getting that much attention?

Hey guys, that event that people have been talking about every day for months afterward, that's not content. Content is some boring ass tournament with prizes. People will get excited when they hear about how you won some space prizes in a space game and will line up to subscribe.

................... and nobody knew about it before Mittanigate.

Hey guys, that event that people have been talking about every day for months afterward, that's not content. Content is some boring ass tournament with prizes. People will get excited when they hear about how you won some space prizes in a space game and will line up to subscribe.

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The only people who talk about it are goons and pretty much every major gaming website.
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Burn jita being fun and everybody is talking about? Pfft, lmao. Give me a break. Burn jita was boring and stupid.
The only people who talk about it are goons and you should know that only a few percentage of people that play EvE post on these terrible forums.

The random EvE player only saw it at one day to avoid going to jita. Then they quickly forgot about it.



If anything, a PvP tournament might encourage that guy that doesn't even know where the EvE forums are to come and take a look to get a link to a youtube video, see when the next match is or who won/lose the previous match. That would help strengthen the community. Sure it might not be the best event.. But it beats burn jita by far.

You're one of those people who makes everyone participate in organized games at parties, aren't you?

You're one of those people who makes everyone participate in organized games at parties, aren't you?

Why would you go to a party with the intention of not participating?

Make better events or gtfo, the only people hyping burn jita are attention seeking goons and every major gaming website.

Somehow I still need to fix your sentences. Also nobody is stopping you from doing something.
Burn Jita was fun for us and that's pretty much the only reason we did it. If you didn't like it, too bad, but I can guarantee you that goons have promoted this game far more than you ever will.

You obviously never went to a party.

Why would you go to a party with the intention not to participate?

Why would you go to a party with the intention not to participate?

Confirming goons are always at the loner's corner when it comes to parties.

Confirming goons are always at the loner's corner when it comes to parties.

No idea how you got that out of my reply. Anyway, I wouldn't go to any party where the host would play ****** "party games".

Love, Hate or not Care for Goonswarm is one thing, but you do have to respect them, not individually but as a whole, as an entity.

I believe Eve without Goons would be a much sadder place,

they bring character and drama to the game.

In some ways Goons are a testament to Eve, and its environment to what it can facilitate.

Even if I didn't, I have no idea how this still relates to EVE.

I don't think you go to any parties at all.

Serious question, you're not that guy who posted on SA a while back about how mad he was no one wanted to play his dumb "killer" game where you winked at people in lieu of actual drinking games, are you?

That thread was hilarious!

Even if I didn't, I have no idea how this still relates to EVE.

Serious answer: No that wasn't me. But if you find a link I would like one for the lols.

As you can see dear viewers there is this line between arshattery and being uncivilized.

This is the line I was referring to that has been crossed.

Now, lets not judge if the response is civil or not.
Just focus on the facts.

Do you see the difference between Darius, Soundwave, the first 4 speakers on the panel and what is happening here and what happened at mittensgate?

I think this drove the point home rather well.

If you don't enjoy tedious, overplanned activities, then you must by an anti-social basement dweller, and your idea of fun is not good for Eve Online, a bad spaceship game. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to yet another party. This one's going to be wild; we have a pi+¦ata!

Your post goes so far beyond just doing something about goons lol, did they tell you that u could join the alliance and then gank your carrier......

This is the worst party ever. It's like you invited me over to try to convert me to Scientology or something.

I can imagine mittani typing out the mail that ordered everybody to attack Jita with tears streaming down his face and a bucket of ice cream by his side.