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The VC's	Posted - 2011.02.24 18:49:00 - [1] So, if I have this wrong, tell me how. Windows XP does not support DirectX 11. DirecttX 11 is required to create a toon picture through the new character editor. Therefore, while it is still listed in the system requirements, Eve Online is in fact not compatible with Windows XP anymore I can still play Eve as it stands now, only without a face. ps. I still use XP as some work related software is use is only available for XP
Acac Sunflyier Gallente Ketsui ga Katai	Posted - 2011.02.24 18:49:00 - [2] Originally by: The VC's So, if I have this wrong, tell me how. Windows XP does not support DirectX 11. DirecttX 11 is required to create a toon picture through the new character editor. Therefore, while it is still listed in the system requirements, Eve Online is in fact not compatible with Windows XP anymore I can still play Eve as it stands now, only without a face. ps. I still use XP as some work related software is use is only available for XP Does Microsoft even support XP anymore? I think it's time to upgrade to 7
Mensche	Posted - 2011.02.24 18:52:00 - [3] I use Windows XP Pro on my desktop and I have no trouble running Eve. Though during character creation I had to turn off shadows completely for it to run faster than 1/fps
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.02.24 18:53:00 - [4] Originally by: The VC's DirecttX 11 is required to create a toon picture through the new character editor. Nope.
Deep Navigation	Posted - 2011.02.24 18:54:00 - [5] I will eventually, however I still used an old but trusty film scanner from time to time that only works with XP. I guess my point is, if Eve is not compatable with XP anymore it shouldn't be listed in the sysreq's
Shoopa Whoopa	Posted - 2011.02.24 18:57:00 - [6] Originally by: The VC's So, if I have this wrong, tell me how. Windows XP does not support DirectX 11. DirecttX 11 is required to create a toon picture through the new character editor. Therefore, while it is still listed in the system requirements, Eve Online is in fact not compatible with Windows XP anymore I can still play Eve as it stands now, only without a face. ps. I still use XP as some work related software is use is only available for XP What? I run XP SP3 and I have no problem with Eve other than the client memory leaking while in windowed mode and docked in station. DX11 won't be a baseline requirement until... ever. It will probably never be one.
Liorah	Posted - 2011.02.24 18:59:00 - [7] Edited by: Liorah on 24/02/2011 19:00:51 Originally by: Acac Sunflyier Does Microsoft even support XP anymore? I think it's time to upgrade to 7 http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-us&x=8&y=13&p1=3223 Extended Support runes through August 4, 2014. They'll have a FAQ on their website as to what "Extended Support" means. (Edit: date typo)
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.02.24 19:06:00 - [8] 100% certain dx11 is not required as i created my toons using a first generation dx10 card.
Deep Navigation	Posted - 2011.02.24 19:18:00 - [9] Thanks mensche for some light at the tunnel end. And I guess should have mentioned that I'm running DirectX 9. (optimistic, I know) I'll try leaving the character editor screen loading overnight. Maybe(?) that may work. Thanks for the help chaps I'd always wanted to see how long I could keep running XP. Looks like Febuary the 24th 2011 is the day I found out.
Gypsio III Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2011.02.24 19:42:00 - [10] Originally by: Deep Navigation Thanks mensche for some light at the tunnel end. And I guess should have mentioned that I'm running DirectX 9. (optimistic, I know) I'll try leaving the character editor screen loading overnight. Maybe(?) that may work. Thanks for the help chaps I'd always wanted to see how long I could keep running XP. Looks like Febuary the 24th 2011 is the day I found out. ...found out that Eve works fine on XP?


CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.24 19:51:00 - [11] Our current system requirements can be found here for both windows and mac. If this ever changes we will let everyone know. But you can run Windows XP service pack 2 with EVE in both the minimum and recommended system configurations. Minimum System Requirements: OS: Windows« XP Service Pack 2 / Vista / 7 CPU: Intel Pentium« or AMD @ 1,5 Ghz or greater which supports SSE2 RAM: XP (SP2) û 1 GB / Vista û 1.5 GB HD space: 6gig Free Space Network: 56k modem or better Internet connection Video: 64 MB Shader Model 2.0 Graphics cards such as GeForce FX (5 series) class card or higher, ATi 9500, x300 series or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers Drivers: DirectX« 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required. Recommended system configuration for running EVE Online: OS: Windows« XP Service Pack 2 / Vista / 7 CPU: Intel Pentium« or AMD dual core @ 2 Ghz or greater which supports SSE2 RAM: 2 GB HD space: 6gig Free Space Network: ADSL connection or faster Video: 256 MB Shader Model 3.0 Graphics cards such as GeForce 8 class card or higher, ATi 3000 series or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers Drivers: DirectX« 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required. The minimum screen resolution for EVE is 1024x768. Audio hardware must support SSE and be Direct Sound compatible. For optimum performance, use latest drivers available. Please note that Windows 95, 98, ME, NT and 2000 are not supported. Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Barakkus	Posted - 2011.02.24 20:30:00 - [12] Originally by: CCP Adida Our current system requirements can be found here for both windows and mac. If this ever changes we will let everyone know. But you can run Windows XP service pack 2 with EVE in both the minimum and recommended system configurations. Minimum System Requirements: OS: Windows« XP Service Pack 2 / Vista / 7 CPU: Intel Pentium« or AMD @ 1,5 Ghz or greater which supports SSE2 RAM: XP (SP2) û 1 GB / Vista û 1.5 GB HD space: 6gig Free Space Network: 56k modem or better Internet connection Video: 64 MB Shader Model 2.0 Graphics cards such as GeForce FX (5 series) class card or higher, ATi 9500, x300 series or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers Drivers: DirectX« 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required. Recommended system configuration for running EVE Online: OS: Windows« XP Service Pack 2 / Vista / 7 CPU: Intel Pentium« or AMD dual core @ 2 Ghz or greater which supports SSE2 RAM: 2 GB HD space: 6gig Free Space Network: ADSL connection or faster Video: 256 MB Shader Model 3.0 Graphics cards such as GeForce 8 class card or higher, ATi 3000 series or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers Drivers: DirectX« 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required. The minimum screen resolution for EVE is 1024x768. Audio hardware must support SSE and be Direct Sound compatible. For optimum performance, use latest drivers available. Please note that Windows 95, 98, ME, NT and 2000 are not supported. Mobility x1300 no longer works with EVE, at least ones distributed by Dell due to the fact that there are no Catalyst drivers available for the cards past 2006. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
Stick Cult	Posted - 2011.02.24 20:34:00 - [13] Windows XP is as old now as Windows 3.1 was when XP was released. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Canonical Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2011.02.24 20:45:00 - [14] Originally by: Stick Cult Windows XP is as old now as Windows 3.1 was when XP was released. That is not a good reason to upgrade.
Stick Cult	Posted - 2011.02.24 20:54:00 - [15] Originally by: Canonical Originally by: Stick Cult Windows XP is as old now as Windows 3.1 was when XP was released. That is not a good reason to upgrade. Didn't intend it to be, I just thought it was interesting and I had nothing to contribute. But really, except for specialized software that doesn't work on newer OS's or really outdated hardware, you really should've upgraded by now. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
sableye principle of motion	Posted - 2011.02.24 21:00:00 - [16] Originally by: CCP Adida Our current system requirements can be found here for both windows and mac. If this ever changes we will let everyone know. But you can run Windows XP service pack 2 with EVE in both the minimum and recommended system configurations. Minimum System Requirements: DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required. I played eve just fine without this, guess I was lucky ----------------------------------------- View The North Star! In All Its Glory!!
Missa Belle	Posted - 2011.02.24 21:05:00 - [17] Originally by: Canonical Originally by: Stick Cult Windows XP is as old now as Windows 3.1 was when XP was released. That is not a good reason to upgrade. In my opinion, XP is still the sh*t. (As far as MS Windows goes) I play EVE on a 6 year old Gateway with a Pentium 4 processor, 2GB of RAM, Nvidia 9600 GT graphics card, and Windows XP SP2. I can play two accounts with all graphics settings on high and I have absolutely no problem with the character creator. Not sure what the OP's problem is. Maybe need to upgrade the graphics card. Or maybe you have too much stuff running in the background. Remember, on Windows, just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there. I also have Ubuntu installed on the same box. The character creator runs, however, it is pretty choppy when using that OS. Pretty much the only reason that I ever boot into Windows XP anymore is just to play EVE.

CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.02.24 21:12:00 - [18] Originally by: sableye Originally by: CCP Adida Our current system requirements can be found here for both windows and mac. If this ever changes we will let everyone know. But you can run Windows XP service pack 2 with EVE in both the minimum and recommended system configurations. Minimum System Requirements: DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required. I played eve just fine without this, guess I was lucky I have a strange feeling that this is if you have a disk. I'm fairly certain if you didn't get EVE on a disk you don't need it. Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Shoopa Whoopa	Posted - 2011.02.24 22:24:00 - [19] Edited by: Shoopa Whoopa on 24/02/2011 22:24:38 Originally by: CCP Adida I have a strange feeling that this is if you have a disk. I'm fairly certain if you didn't get EVE on a disk you don't need it. It could be argued that a DVD drive is not a requirement either way. Even if you have a disc you can still download the client, and an internet connection is definitely required. Is there even a disc version of the new client?
Nyx's Darkness	Posted - 2011.02.24 23:27:00 - [20] Im tempted to plug my old eve cd in to my old xp machine and see if i can get it to work mind i couldnt be asked with downloading via a phone line again

Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.02.24 23:40:00 - [21] Originally by: CCP Adida Originally by: sableye Originally by: CCP Adida Our current system requirements can be found here for both windows and mac. If this ever changes we will let everyone know. But you can run Windows XP service pack 2 with EVE in both the minimum and recommended system configurations. Minimum System Requirements: DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required. I played eve just fine without this, guess I was lucky I have a strange feeling that this is if you have a disk. I'm fairly certain if you didn't get EVE on a disk you don't need it. What about copy protection?
Ai Shun Caldari	Posted - 2011.02.25 00:21:00 - [22] Edited by: Ai Shun on 25/02/2011 00:23:10 Originally by: The VC's ps. I still use XP as some work related software is use is only available for XP The answer to your problems is virtualisation. Originally by: CCP Adida I have a strange feeling that this is if you have a disk. Do not skim-read that.
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.02.25 00:22:00 - [23] Originally by: Batolemaeus Originally by: CCP Adida Originally by: sableye Originally by: CCP Adida Our current system requirements can be found here for both windows and mac. If this ever changes we will let everyone know. But you can run Windows XP service pack 2 with EVE in both the minimum and recommended system configurations. Minimum System Requirements: DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required. I played eve just fine without this, guess I was lucky I have a strange feeling that this is if you have a disk. I'm fairly certain if you didn't get EVE on a disk you don't need it. What about copy protection? Decent troll, I give you 1/10 for the effort. Lowsec is like rockets - nobody uses that content, so why would they be bothered fixing it?
Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.02.25 01:09:00 - [24] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Decent troll, I give you 1/10 for the effort. I don't think you have any idea what "troll" actually means.
Ai Shun Caldari	Posted - 2011.02.25 01:18:00 - [25] Originally by: Batolemaeus I don't think you have any idea what "troll" actually means. So what relation does disc based copy protection have to a subscription based game?
Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.02.25 01:21:00 - [26] Originally by: Ai Shun Originally by: Batolemaeus I don't think you have any idea what "troll" actually means. So what relation does disc based copy protection have to a subscription based game? It would explain the dvd drive requirement, no?
Ai Shun Caldari	Posted - 2011.02.25 01:51:00 - [27] Originally by: Batolemaeus It would explain the dvd drive requirement, no? No. Being able to install from the DVD would explain the DVD Drive Requirement. Copy protection for a subscription model game is meaningless as the media is essentially worthless without the subscription. The revenue comes from the subscription, not the actual media.
sableye principle of motion	Posted - 2011.02.25 02:17:00 - [28] Originally by: Ai Shun Originally by: Batolemaeus It would explain the dvd drive requirement, no? No. Being able to install from the DVD would explain the DVD Drive Requirement. Copy protection for a subscription model game is meaningless as the media is essentially worthless without the subscription. The revenue comes from the subscription, not the actual media. yes and no, in eve its true but in game that charges for expansions ay like wow you have to buy the media as well as if you don't you forever locked lower even if you have all the media installed although that does not detract form the same stament I guess as you can have the media installe djust not able to utilize it... ----------------------------------------- View The North Star! In All Its Glory!!
Ai Shun Caldari	Posted - 2011.02.25 02:32:00 - [29] Originally by: sableye yes and no, in eve its true but in game that charges for expansions ay like wow you have to buy the media as well as if you don't you forever locked lower even if you have all the media installed although that does not detract form the same stament I guess as you can have the media installe djust not able to utilize it... Even when charging for expansions the media is meaningless. You can distribute it at will; or even grab it as a digital download. What players are buying with an expansion / disk is a license to access that expansion / content. Let me approach it in a different way. What, in World of Warcraft for example, determines if you can get access to Wrath of the Lich King? The fact that you have a DVD with Arthas on it? Or the fact that your account has a flag set that tells the server you are allowed to access Wrath of the Lich King? If I give my Wrath coaster ... I mean DVD ... to a friend, will they be able to play as if they had the Wrath of the Lich King expansion? No. There is no copy protection involved with subscription based games that is not controlled by the server / subscription model. Copy protection on a DVD basis applies only when the ownership of the disk itself dictates if you can play or not play the game. (Without resorting to illegal means) About the only time you DO need the disk is if it's required for some arcane account recovery mechanism where you have to take a picture, scan your receipt and so forth. Sorry if I'm not as lucid as I should be. Been very busy at work and running on about 2 hours of sleep for the last couple of days. Thank *#2! for EVE forums to keep me sane.
sableye principle of motion	Posted - 2011.02.25 02:53:00 - [30] Originally by: Ai Shun (Without resorting to illegal means) yer I tink thats were I messed up in my thoughts ----------------------------------------- View The North Star! In All Its Glory!!



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