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Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:14:00 - [1] Vileratforcsm.org Greetings friends, it is time to discuss the future of the game we are all guilty of playing, Eve-Online. I have sat patiently hoping that things would change on their own, that CSMs of the past would press to have the core issues addressed but all I've seen are minor changes around the margins. The state of things are not good and those who follow the political game can clearly see that events are leading to a conclusion instead of a continuation of the sandbox environment we've all enjoyed. The dream of one day becoming the new strong power to press your claim to eve's overarching story is dying and the notion that 'every ship counts' has become a lost and forgotten phrase. When battles occur they are slideshow presentations between massive power blocs and frankly your contribution does not matter at all. Things must change and this change I fear is beyond the ability of those 0.0 stakeholders in power because intended game mechanics make the necessary change an inferior choice if you want to be the strongest, the best. So what's wrong? A great many things. From ship balance in the form of whole classes of ships becoming obsolete to the lack of economic scarcity making losses matter little to all involved. There are a distinct lack of goals once you take those first feeble steps into the unprotected space of lowsec/0.0 and this makes gameplay stangnant and pointless. Once my original corp Goonfleet made their start in a little pocket of Syndicate eventually rising to become a power who could influence events. Unfortunately this possibility seems out of reach and foreign to those starting today. You join with a massive power bloc or you get crushed if you attempt it without and there are few exceptions to this rule. What can we do about it? I offer you no simple solutions, because quite frankly there are none. I am not offering you a checklist of impossible implementations that will be shattered in the first meeting with CCP, that would be irresponsible. Nobody running for CSM can promise that they will make Assault Frigates better nor can they promise that they can make mining worthwhile again and if they are they are lying to you. I can however promise you a voice in the direction of this game and the knowledge that I understand what's wrong. I know the key elements that are causing stagnation and rot that are ruining the game. I pledge to keep these issues at the forefront in every meeting and press for real solutions that will break this cycle of decay. Like many of you I am concerned about massive bloc warfare silencing any other activities and I am concerned about the prevalence of supercapitals which have ruined the importance of any other ship class. I am concerned about the broken production system that causes massive bottlenecks in certain moon minerals that break intended income distribution and I am concerned about having other end game goals aside from watching a stop motion broken combat system where you sit back and hope the enemy becomes more frustrated with the mechanics and logs off before you do. This isn't how this was supposed to be when we started and this is certainly not what this place can be. I promise you nothing but my undivided focus on bringing pressure to fix these core issues and I ask for your vote so that I may be your voice in the CSM.
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:17:00 - [2] Current game mechanics allow 'power blocs,' mega-alliances that control large swathes of space. Previous changes to sovereignty mechanics only served to accelerate the rise of bloc-level politics. Nullsec player behavior has grown in sophistication and has bypassed intended game mechanics. This clearly wasn't intended, and I vow to work with CCP to come up with solutions. There are no goals for smaller entities in sovereign 0.0. Currently, there is no goal that a small group can achieve that a larger group cannot achieve more effectively. There should be goals that a smaller-sized fleet can achieve in 0.0 for which larger groups would be less well-suited. Current game mechanics favored far less diverse fleet compositions than in days past. Currently, fleets favor a more homogenized fleet makeup. (ie, "Drake blob," "Alphafleet") Fleets should be encouraged to incorporate a wider variety of ships to ensure success. Larger ships are increasingly making smaller ships obsolete. This is especially true in the divide between subcapitals, capitals and supercapitals. Capitals and supercapitals should exist to support a subcapital fleet; not replace it. There should be measurable disincentives for using top-heavy fleet compositions. There is a distinct lack of balance across racial lines. Economic scarcity is beginning to break down for more wealthy players. Eve was designed as a world where taking losses matters. There is an increasing number of super-wealthy pilots who are all-but-immune to losses. Some of these pilots are benefiting from previous game mechanics and CCP action that gave them continuing advantages. (T2 BPO lottery, ultra-rare ship giveaways) Others benefit from massive disparities in moon mineral prices. Others are benefiting from ostensibly-illegal behavior (botting). There should be a greater focus on drawing ISK away from players of all income levels. There should also be an increased dedication to combating automated ISK generation. Mining is a sub-par method of accruing wealth and minerals compared to other methods. PVP is the core of the game, but it's too difficult to find it in reasonable proportions. The differences between PVP in empire, lowsec and nullsec are vast. The risks and rewards of operating in low security space make it far less appealing than either empire or 0.0 space. Faction warfare has become a largely irrelevant and underdeveloped form of gameplay. There should be a serious effort made to balance risk and reward in low security space. But more importantly, I don't just want the opportunity to bring my own ideas to CCP. I want to bring them your ideas on how to improve Eve Online. I vow to give all player concerns, ideas and criticisms a fair chance. Mail me with your concerns to bring to CCP.
EnderCapitalG Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:21:00 - [3] I support this product and/or service.
Ganthirthor Magnus	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:22:00 - [4] I support vile rat
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:22:00 - [5] Notice: Vile Rat isn't promising you the moon and stars. He doesn't claim that he'll suddenly become a ~game designer~ when elected and magically be able to fix blasters. Unlike just about everyone else running for CSM, Vile Rat isn't lying to you. Sins of a Solar Spymaster: my ~fair and balanced~ column TheMittani @ Twitter
Divus Bene	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:22:00 - [6] I support this product and/or service.
Tyreal Magnus Caldari Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:25:00 - [7] Vile Rat actually plays eve online. Vote for him!
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:27:00 - [8] Originally by: Tyreal Magnus Vile Rat actually plays eve online. Vote for him! I unironically love to play eve-online.
OhThis GuyAgain	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:28:00 - [9] What makes you qualified/motivated to speak out about balancing the game for all players, rather than just those in nullsec?
Captain Pitts Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:30:00 - [10] Best man for the job.

Kismeteer GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:34:00 - [11] Please consider honesty over falsehood. If you only know Goons for griefing, think about the fact that we can't grief if Eve Online has no players. We do actually play the game too. And the CSM can only make recommendations like the skill queue, which everyone knew in Beta needed to be implemented. Yet it didn't happen till how many CSM cycles later? If you honestly think CSM can force them to fix blasters (which need fixed!), or fix Electronic Attack frigates, you're kidding yourself. Only person who can fix this stuff is CCP. -- Kismeteer, carebear extraordinaire
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 19:45:00 - [12] Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain What makes you qualified/motivated to speak out about balancing the game for all players, rather than just those in nullsec? Actually a very good question. As to motivation, all aspects of eve play into each other. You can't look at 0.0 as its own entity when what happens in empire directly impacts 0.0 gameplay and vice versa. The economy, the learning path, everything leads in theory from one to the other and tie in. If you aren't motivated to make all aspects improve then you're fooling yourself. As to qualifications I think our forced relocation to empire has granted us a wonderful recent opportunity to enjoy all it had to offer! Seriously though I play in empire as well. I've spent a great deal of time in 0.0 and find it fun but the core gameplay issues aren't all that different from what you'd experience in highsec. You rat, you mine, you run missions, you grow corportations and relationships just like in 0.0 and anybody who thinks that empire means safe hasn't played this game for very long.
Mynxee Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.02.25 20:02:00 - [13] I assume that you are familiar with the many frustrations expressed by CSM5 related to communications bottlenecks and a certain lack of CCP engagement with the CSM, particularly on Incarna. What concerns or thoughts do you have regarding bottlenecks like that and possible methods for overcoming them? Chair, CSM5 CSM6 Page on Facebook--keep up with all candidates in one place!
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.25 20:24:00 - [14] Originally by: Mynxee I assume that you are familiar with the many frustrations expressed by CSM5 related to communications bottlenecks and a certain lack of CCP engagement with the CSM, particularly on Incarna. What concerns or thoughts do you have regarding bottlenecks like that and possible methods for overcoming them? This would qualify as a "hard question with no easy answers". CCP will respond as much or as little as they want to. I could throw a simple statement about lots of vodka and a sizable amount of lobbying but that would be simplifying it to a great extent. Going into this all candidates must first realize that we're running out of chances to get them to see things from our perspective but let me say it this way. This is going to take a lot of work. This is going to take an amazing amount of us doing our homework, it's going to take a large amount of collaboration between the CSM delegates to formulate a solid coherent front that keeps CCP focused on these issues. If we can't come together and get our ducks in a row before we even begin dialogue with CCP then our priorities will be scattered and diluted. If we can't form that united front then I don't see how we're going to be able to have any more impact than in the past so that'll be a key part of what must happen. Knowing the candidates as I do it's no surprise that you have a sizable number of Lawyers and even Foreign service members going for this, all people that know how to convince and make people see things the way they do. So no easy answer. We're going to break the bottleneck because we're too damn stubborn and care far too much about the future of this game to let our concerns die.
Raidek Minmatar Bad Kitty Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.02.25 21:29:00 - [15] I support Vile Rat, The Mittani and a unified CSM.
Ayame Tenischa Exile Consortium Nihilists Social Club	Posted - 2011.02.25 23:13:00 - [16] I support Vile rat and MEANINGFULL changes to EVE through the CSM. You have my vote, and those I can convince to see the light. ;)
iP0D	Posted - 2011.02.25 23:25:00 - [17] It's not so hard really. CCP gave CSM the tools to do it. It's called "pressure management", you achieve that by applying a little bit of clarity on workflow, and a healthy bit of accountability. How? Simple. But only possible if the CSM as a whole does it, without falling for social engineering or the party line. Have everything transparant and visible to everyone (an NDA slap does not prevent - as we have seen - from making clear the heart of the matter, it only hides the ugly and the details). Community with each other and with CCP and the general public on all. And do all that consistantly. Next time a team incarna runs away because CSM is evil, or a lead game designer runs for the hills for new shiny and complains about customers, but also next time a good team in CCP delivers well or engages well, that combination provides that pressure management. Since it is all public, transparant, consistantly kept visible and communicated that can greatly aid both playrs and CCP alike, but also very well expose when failure happens (and who, and why). Constructively, obviously. And independant media help, as does social networking. Originally by: Vile rat Originally by: Mynxee I assume that you are familiar with the many frustrations expressed by CSM5 related to communications bottlenecks and a certain lack of CCP engagement with the CSM, particularly on Incarna. What concerns or thoughts do you have regarding bottlenecks like that and possible methods for overcoming them? This would qualify as a "hard question with no easy answers". CCP will respond as much or as little as they want to. I could throw a simple statement about lots of vodka and a sizable amount of lobbying but that would be simplifying it to a great extent. Going into this all candidates must first realize that we're running out of chances to get them to see things from our perspective but let me say it this way. This is going to take a lot of work. This is going to take an amazing amount of us doing our homework, it's going to take a large amount of collaboration between the CSM delegates to formulate a solid coherent front that keeps CCP focused on these issues. If we can't come together and get our ducks in a row before we even begin dialogue with CCP then our priorities will be scattered and diluted. If we can't form that united front then I don't see how we're going to be able to have any more impact than in the past so that'll be a key part of what must happen. Knowing the candidates as I do it's no surprise that you have a sizable number of Lawyers and even Foreign service members going for this, all people that know how to convince and make people see things the way they do. So no easy answer. We're going to break the bottleneck because we're too damn stubborn and care far too much about the future of this game to let our concerns die.
Internet Lawyer	Posted - 2011.02.25 23:28:00 - [18] This one shows promise!
Prime Radiant Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.26 02:44:00 - [19] Vile rat is the best of rats and will do great things for all. X's SABRE
Marconus Orion Global Criminal Countdown	Posted - 2011.02.26 04:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Vile rat I am concerned about the broken production system that causes massive bottlenecks in certain moon minerals that break intended income distribution You say 'break' intended distribution. How so? You point out things that you view as being broken. This implies that you can see things that are not broken. What about moons would you like to see happen so they are not broken?

Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.26 04:18:00 - [21] Originally by: Marconus Orion Originally by: Vile rat I am concerned about the broken production system that causes massive bottlenecks in certain moon minerals that break intended income distribution You say 'break' intended distribution. How so? You point out things that you view as being broken. This implies that you can see things that are not broken. What about moons would you like to see happen so they are not broken? The moons are fine. They haven't changed. Tweaks in production that shift bottlenecks around are poorly implemented and cause great damage to game balance.
Marconus Orion Global Criminal Countdown	Posted - 2011.02.26 04:33:00 - [22] Large fleet battles are epic, so is small scale PvP. Do you feel it is possible for both to co-exist? What are you thoughts on jump bridges in regards to logistics and power projection? Do you have a Black Ops battleship? If so, do you get to use it much or how you would like to? What ship do you secretly love no matter how broken it gets, if any? There is a ton more people playing the game than five years ago. What are your thoughts on the increase in players per system and that 'into the vast unknown' feeling? Is it still there for you? Your last truly satisfying small scale PvP experience where strategy, experience and skills were used in every aspect that gave you felt good about?
Profiteering	Posted - 2011.02.26 05:27:00 - [23] Im going to dis you goonswarm people because of your ceo, HES LYING. Now go troll his post.
Fyodor Dostoyevsky 54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry	Posted - 2011.02.26 05:51:00 - [24] No longer must we be subject to the sycophancy of the CSMs of the past. A vote for Vile Rat is a vote for the well-being of all and not just the priveleged elite.
Ackbarre Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.26 12:35:00 - [25] I support Vile Rat and The Mittani for CSM. As well as that other guy White Tree. You will have all my votes.
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.26 15:40:00 - [26] Originally by: Marconus Orion Large fleet battles are epic, so is small scale PvP. Do you feel it is possible for both to co-exist? Absolutely. No question they both can exist and should exist. The problem is mostly goals, there's no achievable goal in the game that can be accomplished with a small group (that's worth doing) where a larger group isn't the best counter. Hratli Smirks did a good write up (it's on K.com if you're interested) of a "king of the hill" style lowsec goal that would be a good achievable idea that would help to fix this issue. Really when you reach the end there's one goal and in my opinion that's where things fall apart. Quote: What are you thoughts on jump bridges in regards to logistics and power projection? I don't approve of anything that would reintroduce tedium such as making people jump 40 jumps just to get back and forth to empire. That's not to say I think you should have a safe run of it. Two separate issues in play here and they aren't necessarily two sides of the same coin. You can have quick logistics without it being safe logistics. Quote: Do you have a Black Ops battleship? If so, do you get to use it much or how you would like to? I did. It blew up because I was a dumbass. I like the concept of the ship but it's just a mini titan without the fun part at this point and not very fun to fly. We get a lot of use out of them inserting bombing squads and there's a great deal of utility in that but they're just support ships. Quote: What ship do you secretly love no matter how broken it gets, if any? I would love for dreads to be worth flying again. I'm a bit bitter about what supercapitals have done to the usefulness of regular cap fleets. That whole implementation is just so broken right now. Quote: There is a ton more people playing the game than five years ago. What are your thoughts on the increase in players per system and that 'into the vast unknown' feeling? Is it still there for you? That fell apart when bloc warfare became the norm. Now you have people huddled into hubs and it's become boring as HECK. Can you imagine something like ISS happening again? The blue pill? Small groups owning little outposts holding small areas independently? No of course not. They would be crushed the day they dropped the outpost egg. My first day in game I was in a Punisher in Syndicate and I've never known anything but "you're likely going to die if you aren't really careful and smart" and the game is a lesser place for that being rare these days. Quote: Your last truly satisfying small scale PvP experience where strategy, experience and skills were used in every aspect that gave you felt good about? Our directors sneak off from time to time to Querious in our alts and Mittani yammers on about HIS SABRE and Khefron goes on about his billion isk drake and I usually jam hella dudes in my Falcon. It's not much but what you're asking for is damn hard to find without having another 40 ships float in mid fight. Every fight these days is a gank or a trap and the lack of achievable small scale goal contributes to this in a big way.
Widemouth Deepthroat	Posted - 2011.02.26 16:19:00 - [27] What is your position on jump bridge removal/nerf?
ImmaSplodeYou HAMMERHOUSE	Posted - 2011.02.26 23:25:00 - [28] Don't let the name fool you, as long as you don't spam in his intel channels vile rat is a very nice and very smart man, who would be an excellent choice as a CSM candidate A vote for VR is a vote for a better EVE!
Doggsbody Lame Duck Logistics	Posted - 2011.02.26 23:53:00 - [29] I actually thought that the rumours that NC and Goonswarm gad planned a massive campaign to claim all seats on the CSM were a joke until I read this. Pitiful, depressing and shameless. Bad enough that NC / Goons have killed 0.0 alliance warfare through lazy defence pacts. Even worse that they're now manipulating the playerbase into voting them in to positions where they can control CCP policy to suit their own self-preservation. Shame on you, Vile Rat. The sooner this game is reclaimed by genuine players the better.
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.27 01:36:00 - [30] Originally by: Doggsbody I actually thought that the rumours that NC and Goonswarm gad planned a massive campaign to claim all seats on the CSM were a joke until I read this. Pitiful, depressing and shameless. Bad enough that NC / Goons have killed 0.0 alliance warfare through lazy defence pacts. Even worse that they're now manipulating the playerbase into voting them in to positions where they can control CCP policy to suit their own self-preservation. Shame on you, Vile Rat. The sooner this game is reclaimed by genuine players the better. So I suppose I'm not getting your vote huh?

Legal Assistant	Posted - 2011.02.27 01:45:00 - [31] Edited by: Legal Assistant on 27/02/2011 01:48:07 Originally by: Doggsbody Even worse that they're now manipulating the playerbase into voting them in to positions where they can control CCP policy to suit their own self-preservation. Historic precedent suggests there are few grounds for concern about the CSM's ability to control CCP policy, even if every seat was occupied by equally obnoxious clones of The Mittani. It's apparently hard enough just to get a few tweaks to game mechanics, let alone affect policy.
4C 4F 5645 Rogue Drone Systems	Posted - 2011.02.27 02:16:00 - [32] Edited by: 4C 4F 5645 on 27/02/2011 02:21:55 Originally by: Doggsbody Even worse that they're now manipulating the playerbase into voting them in to positions where they can control CCP policy to suit their own self-preservation. Nah, they won't control CCP policy, even they are not naive enough to think CCP are blind to their manipulation and would listen to a one-sided CSM. They panicked because CSM5 managed to get CCP to pay attention and they just want to undo that work and sink CSM back into the irrelevancy of previous years so it can be ignored again.
Rhes Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.27 02:25:00 - [33] Vile Rat once banned me from the Deklein intel channel and I'm still going to vote for him.
Disgruntled Flying Monkey	Posted - 2011.02.27 10:27:00 - [34] Vile Rat, your hypocrisy is amazing, it is up to players if they wish to end bloc warfare, CCP doesnt force you to NAP so explain wtf you are talking about here. Quote: Like many of you I am concerned about massive bloc warfare silencing any other activities When goons / NC have made it their mission to control all of 0.0, nothing is forcing you to reset instead you encourage more NAPs, it has been leaked already what your CSM mission is, to control all seats so it is easier to make ISK and RMT in 0.0 and prevent PvP. Saying that no doubt your blind monkey will vote for you, just because you snap your fingers, lucky for players CCP doesnt listen to CSM and accept that you WILL GET your jump bridges removed!
clbo	Posted - 2011.02.27 11:00:00 - [35] Vile rat best rat. Please fix my eve.
EnderCapitalG Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.27 13:07:00 - [36] Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey Vile Rat, your hypocrisy is amazing, it is up to players if they wish to end bloc warfare, CCP doesnt force you to NAP so explain wtf you are talking about here. Quote: Like many of you I am concerned about massive bloc warfare silencing any other activities When goons / NC have made it their mission to control all of 0.0, nothing is forcing you to reset instead you encourage more NAPs, it has been leaked already what your CSM mission is, to control all seats so it is easier to make ISK and RMT in 0.0 and prevent PvP. Saying that no doubt your blind monkey will vote for you, just because you snap your fingers, lucky for players CCP doesnt listen to CSM and accept that you WILL GET your jump bridges removed! You're so full of **** that it's coming out of your ears.
Lorna Sicling	Posted - 2011.02.27 15:53:00 - [37] In the interest of balance within the CSM and to ensure that all views are fairly represented on the CSM, I think it's good that you're running and wish you the best for your campaign. I will certainly not agree with all of your ideas, but then for me that's the point of having a mixed CSM and not just one powerblock of say hi-sec, or 0.0 people.
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.27 16:57:00 - [38] Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey Vile Rat, your hypocrisy is amazing, it is up to players if they wish to end bloc warfare, CCP doesnt force you to NAP so explain wtf you are talking about here. Quote: Like many of you I am concerned about massive bloc warfare silencing any other activities When goons / NC have made it their mission to control all of 0.0, nothing is forcing you to reset instead you encourage more NAPs, it has been leaked already what your CSM mission is, to control all seats so it is easier to make ISK and RMT in 0.0 and prevent PvP. Saying that no doubt your blind monkey will vote for you, just because you snap your fingers, lucky for players CCP doesnt listen to CSM and accept that you WILL GET your jump bridges removed! Just so you know, the average goon hates that we're blue with everyone that's anywhere near us. From what I hear spoken of from people who understand the game a lot better than I do, the presence of the existing number of Super-Capital ships in certain alliances makes it pretty much suicidal for the alliances that are already blue to them to reset them. Two Shots Goonwaffe
Hratli Smirks GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.27 17:37:00 - [39] Originally by: Two Shots Just so you know, the average goon hates that we're blue with everyone that's anywhere near us. I don't hate anything but supercapitals and I love jump bridges hey Vile Rat I'll vote for you buddy
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.27 17:53:00 - [40] Originally by: Hratli Smirks Originally by: Two Shots Just so you know, the average goon hates that we're blue with everyone that's anywhere near us. I don't hate anything but supercapitals and I love jump bridges hey Vile Rat I'll vote for you buddy You are not the average goon. You are H. Ratli Smriks, bona fide good poster. Can you confirm that a vote for Vile Rat is a vote for good posts? Two Shots Goonwaffe

Disgruntled Flying Monkey	Posted - 2011.02.27 18:04:00 - [41] Originally by: Two Shots Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey Vile Rat, your hypocrisy is amazing, it is up to players if they wish to end bloc warfare, CCP doesnt force you to NAP so explain wtf you are talking about here. Quote: Like many of you I am concerned about massive bloc warfare silencing any other activities When goons / NC have made it their mission to control all of 0.0, nothing is forcing you to reset instead you encourage more NAPs, it has been leaked already what your CSM mission is, to control all seats so it is easier to make ISK and RMT in 0.0 and prevent PvP. Saying that no doubt your blind monkey will vote for you, just because you snap your fingers, lucky for players CCP doesnt listen to CSM and accept that you WILL GET your jump bridges removed! Just so you know, the average goon hates that we're blue with everyone that's anywhere near us. From what I hear spoken of from people who understand the game a lot better than I do, the presence of the existing number of Super-Capital ships in certain alliances makes it pretty much suicidal for the alliances that are already blue to them to reset them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, if this were the case then Goons alone would have reset NC back in 2009 instead kept them blue because ôBob might come backö wtf, as long as theres no risk involved in NAPing half of eden everyone will do it. Dont get me wrong I know DRF and IT did it too but I find it funny how Vile Rat says he will fix it considering every previous CSM from NC has said the same thing and ONLY promoted it. The whole purpose of removing Jump Bridges was so conflicts could arise locally and it would be difficult for a few active directors in a powerbloc to hold so much space, thats why your leaders and every other NC leader is angry at the suggested change because in effect it makes NAPs pointless due to travelling and maintenance of space without ease. Oh and only because someone will say it. Yes 0.0 was dead before jump bridges but its also dying now, the population has been going down and down as bots and supercaps goes up, jump bridges didnt make 0.0 even remotely more habitable, 0.0 has been growing at a steady rate until dominion and then started to go down. Logistics wont be harder for smaller alliances, what will be hard is getting a mega blob from A - B AND being able to suck up all that moon goo, CCP mentioned this already. As a result people will start focusing on fighting people 5 - 10 jumps away instead of 50 jumps away. Then maybe Goons can actually go back to their roots. But thats besides the point, NC want to control all seats either directly or indirectly and considering some of the stuff the NC CSM candidates have said it makes you wonder if they even play eve at all.
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.27 18:34:00 - [42] Edited by: Two Shots on 27/02/2011 18:35:51 edit: because I cannot wait 2 minutes to add more words! I don't think you understood my post. I said that the average goon dislikes that we're blue to everyone. The average goon does not make alliance-level decisions. If the average goon made alliance-level decisions, then we would all be flying free Dramiels until the alliance wallet ran dry. ... Wait a second! Two Shots Goonwaffe
Disgruntled Flying Monkey	Posted - 2011.02.27 19:44:00 - [43] Originally by: Two Shots Edited by: Two Shots on 27/02/2011 18:35:51 edit: because I cannot wait 2 minutes to add more words! I don't think you understood my post. I said that the average goon dislikes that we're blue to everyone. The average goon does not make alliance-level decisions. If the average goon made alliance-level decisions, then we would all be flying free Dramiels until the alliance wallet ran dry. ... Wait a second! I do think it is bad people are being stereotyped based on which alliance they are in but lets face it, you are who your friends are or should I say best friends are.
Zelda Wei Caldari New Horizon Trade Exchange	Posted - 2011.02.27 19:59:00 - [44]
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.27 20:35:00 - [45] Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey Originally by: Two Shots Edited by: Two Shots on 27/02/2011 18:35:51 edit: because I cannot wait 2 minutes to add more words! I don't think you understood my post. I said that the average goon dislikes that we're blue to everyone. The average goon does not make alliance-level decisions. If the average goon made alliance-level decisions, then we would all be flying free Dramiels until the alliance wallet ran dry. ... Wait a second! I do think it is bad people are being stereotyped based on which alliance they are in but lets face it, you are who your friends are or should I say best friends are. My best friend doesn't play MMO games because they are a waste of time. Two Shots Goonwaffe
EnderCapitalG Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.27 21:31:00 - [46] Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey I don't know how modern force projection works. You're aware at the beginning of the Fountain campaign, we would regularly fly 20-30 jumps to the Titan system, and then bridge the last few jumps (usually on top of the objective or near a POS)? Jump Bridges are used for the common joe in alliances, hardly for force projection. You'd just be making the day to day in 0.0 a lot **tier. Also, the reason many hate jump bridges is due to looking at the NC's jump bridge set-up, which I can agree is hilariously convoluted. Is this a problem with jump bridges? Nope. It's a problem stemming from Technetium, which everyone can agree needs a nerf. Seriously, ** technetium.
Naynomi	Posted - 2011.02.27 22:06:00 - [47] Originally by: EnderCapitalG Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey I don't know how modern force projection works. You're aware at the beginning of the Fountain campaign, we would regularly fly 20-30 jumps to the Titan system, and then bridge the last few jumps (usually on top of the objective or near a POS)? Jump Bridges are used for the common joe in alliances, hardly for force projection. You'd just be making the day to day in 0.0 a lot **tier. Also, the reason many hate jump bridges is due to looking at the NC's jump bridge set-up, which I can agree is hilariously convoluted. Is this a problem with jump bridges? Nope. It's a problem stemming from Technetium, which everyone can agree needs a nerf. Seriously, ** technetium. Obviously Titan bridges need a nerf, too.
EnderCapitalG Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.27 22:06:00 - [48] Edited by: EnderCapitalG on 27/02/2011 22:16:54 e: e
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.28 13:30:00 - [49] Originally by: Hratli Smirks Originally by: Two Shots Just so you know, the average goon hates that we're blue with everyone that's anywhere near us. I don't hate anything but supercapitals and I love jump bridges hey Vile Rat I'll vote for you buddy I do have a strong opinion about supercapitals. I think they should all die. Supercaps cause so many balance issues for this game and I feel they make people feel they have to bot/rmt in order to even compete. This isn't to say that people wouldn't do this otherwise, but I do feel that people are more likely to seek illgal isk generation mechanisms because they feel they have no other realistic avenue to compete in the eve endgame which has taken an unfortunate shift towards supercap heavy fleets in the past year and a half. Quote: Disgruntled Flying Monkey saying a bunch of stuff that shows he clearly hasn't read my platform DFM if you read my platform you'd see I largely am pointed in the same direction as you. You seem to think that we're happy with the state of 0.0 and want to somehow sneak in and cause it to continue the way it is, we're not. I'd actually welcome your ideas on the subject if you'd like to have a serious talk about it however if you're just here to throw stones let me know and I won't bother :)
Eldaec	Posted - 2011.02.28 21:36:00 - [50] Originally by: Naynomi Obviously Titan bridges need a nerf, too. While they clearly don't, if you wanted to make fleet combat less common and make high end logistics harder, this would be the way to do it. Jump bridge nerfs will only impact member level activity inside alliances, and make 0.0 activity less practical without a blob. If only we had a some kind of council that could make this startlingly obvious point to CCP... oh wait.

RuckaLucka Ali GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.02.28 23:20:00 - [51] To the idiots saying were trying to have deklein and NC control the csm are idiots, were trying to get all 0.0 alliances in on this even PL and IT were contacted to get CSM rep's.
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.01 15:09:00 - [52] Originally by: Eldaec Originally by: Naynomi Obviously Titan bridges need a nerf, too. While they clearly don't, if you wanted to make fleet combat less common and make high end logistics harder, this would be the way to do it. Jump bridge nerfs will only impact member level activity inside alliances, and make 0.0 activity less practical without a blob. If only we had a some kind of council that could make this startlingly obvious point to CCP... oh wait. I think a lot of the people who say things like "get rid of jump bridges" don't necessarily want movement to be tedious and boring (hey let's go 30 jumps to do anything), they are really saying "let's expose movement to attack so we can increase pvp instead of having easy mechanisms used to avoid it". I don't think it's necessary to go back in time back to the days where movement was irritating in order to accomplish this however.
Zati Pasirga	Posted - 2011.03.01 15:36:00 - [53] Edited by: Zati Pasirga on 01/03/2011 15:36:15 Why is Kalrand not allowed to post about his CSM campaign on the goonforum or tell other goons about it? Do Mittani and you hate free speech and democrazy that much? Dont you think that your hate for free speech makes you a bad CSM candidate?
Karadion	Posted - 2011.03.01 15:45:00 - [54] Edited by: Karadion on 01/03/2011 15:47:38 Originally by: Zati Pasirga Edited by: Zati Pasirga on 01/03/2011 15:36:15 Why is Kalrand not allowed to post about his CSM campaign on the goonforum or tell other goons about it? Do Mittani and you hate free speech and democrazy that much? Dont you think that your hate for free speech makes you a bad CSM candidate? Kalrand already has my not vote. Edit: Where is this argument you're basing this on that he's not allowed to run as a candidate for CSM?
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.01 15:59:00 - [55] Edited by: Vile rat on 01/03/2011 15:59:12 Originally by: Zati Pasirga Edited by: Zati Pasirga on 01/03/2011 15:36:15 Do Mittani and you hate free speech and democrazy that much? Thanks for the free bump! While I wish I could run on a platform of improving the quality of posting here on Eve-o some goals are beyond achievement.
Zati Pasirga	Posted - 2011.03.01 16:11:00 - [56] Originally by: Karadion Edited by: Karadion on 01/03/2011 15:47:38 Originally by: Zati Pasirga Edited by: Zati Pasirga on 01/03/2011 15:36:15 Why is Kalrand not allowed to post about his CSM campaign on the goonforum or tell other goons about it? Do Mittani and you hate free speech and democrazy that much? Dont you think that your hate for free speech makes you a bad CSM candidate? Kalrand already has my not vote. Edit: Where is this argument you're basing this on that he's not allowed to run as a candidate for CSM? You should read my post again.
Karadion	Posted - 2011.03.01 16:14:00 - [57] Originally by: Zati Pasirga Originally by: Karadion Edited by: Karadion on 01/03/2011 15:47:38 Originally by: Zati Pasirga Edited by: Zati Pasirga on 01/03/2011 15:36:15 Why is Kalrand not allowed to post about his CSM campaign on the goonforum or tell other goons about it? Do Mittani and you hate free speech and democrazy that much? Dont you think that your hate for free speech makes you a bad CSM candidate? Kalrand already has my not vote. Edit: Where is this argument you're basing this on that he's not allowed to run as a candidate for CSM? You should read my post again. And you're wrong :)
Sullivar N	Posted - 2011.03.01 16:16:00 - [58] Originally by: Vile rat While I wish I could run on a platform of improving the quality of posting here on Eve-o some goals are beyond achievement. Also that platform has been taken
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.01 16:20:00 - [59] Originally by: Sullivar N Originally by: Vile rat While I wish I could run on a platform of improving the quality of posting here on Eve-o some goals are beyond achievement. Also that platform has been taken T&B is a funny guy and a good poster.
Zati Pasirga	Posted - 2011.03.01 16:35:00 - [60] Originally by: Karadion Originally by: Zati Pasirga Originally by: Karadion Edited by: Karadion on 01/03/2011 15:47:38 Originally by: Zati Pasirga Edited by: Zati Pasirga on 01/03/2011 15:36:15 Why is Kalrand not allowed to post about his CSM campaign on the goonforum or tell other goons about it? Do Mittani and you hate free speech and democrazy that much? Dont you think that your hate for free speech makes you a bad CSM candidate? Kalrand already has my not vote. Edit: Where is this argument you're basing this on that he's not allowed to run as a candidate for CSM? You should read my post again. And you're wrong :) Then quote the part where i wrote that he is not allowed to run as a candidate for CSM please. @Vile Rat Do you think your popularity in goonswarm is so low that you fear competing with Kalrand in the goonforum? Will you tell The Mittani to consider allowing Kalrand to post there about his CSM run or will The Mittani and you continue to behave like Gaddafi and his bootlicker? You should fight for free speech to show that you are a worthy CSM candidate!

VileRats Tattoo	Posted - 2011.03.01 17:42:00 - [61] You should totally vote for this guy. I'd know!
Karadion	Posted - 2011.03.01 18:06:00 - [62] Originally by: Zati Pasirga Then quote the part where i wrote that he is not allowed to run as a candidate for CSM please. @Vile Rat Do you think your popularity in goonswarm is so low that you fear competing with Kalrand in the goonforum? Will you tell The Mittani to consider allowing Kalrand to post there about his CSM run or will The Mittani and you continue to behave like Gaddafi and his bootlicker? You should fight for free speech to show that you are a worthy CSM candidate! I already answered your question. You're wrong about him not allowed to post on the goonfleet forum. Ask any spy (LOL who needs to spy on Goonfleet anyways?) that have access to the goonfleet boards :)
Zati Pasirga	Posted - 2011.03.01 18:46:00 - [63] Originally by: Karadion Originally by: Zati Pasirga Then quote the part where i wrote that he is not allowed to run as a candidate for CSM please. @Vile Rat Do you think your popularity in goonswarm is so low that you fear competing with Kalrand in the goonforum? Will you tell The Mittani to consider allowing Kalrand to post there about his CSM run or will The Mittani and you continue to behave like Gaddafi and his bootlicker? You should fight for free speech to show that you are a worthy CSM candidate! I already answered your question. You're wrong about him not allowed to post on the goonfleet forum. Ask any spy (LOL who needs to spy on Goonfleet anyways?) that have access to the goonfleet boards :) Since you earned yourself a 0/10 for reading comprehension again, i bolded and underlined a few words for you.
Twigand Berries Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.01 20:25:00 - [64] Originally by: VileRats Tattoo You should totally vote for this guy. I'd know! What is your position on your positioning on vile rat's arm?
EnderCapitalG Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.01 20:42:00 - [65] Originally by: Zati Pasirga Originally by: Karadion Originally by: Zati Pasirga Then quote the part where i wrote that he is not allowed to run as a candidate for CSM please. @Vile Rat Do you think your popularity in goonswarm is so low that you fear competing with Kalrand in the goonforum? Will you tell The Mittani to consider allowing Kalrand to post there about his CSM run or will The Mittani and you continue to behave like Gaddafi and his bootlicker? You should fight for free speech to show that you are a worthy CSM candidate! I already answered your question. You're wrong about him not allowed to post on the goonfleet forum. Ask any spy (LOL who needs to spy on Goonfleet anyways?) that have access to the goonfleet boards :) Since you earned yourself a 0/10 for reading comprehension again, i bolded and underlined a few words for you. Who says he can't post about his CSM run?
Zati Pasirga	Posted - 2011.03.01 21:12:00 - [66] Originally by: EnderCapitalG Originally by: Zati Pasirga Originally by: Karadion Originally by: Zati Pasirga Then quote the part where i wrote that he is not allowed to run as a candidate for CSM please. @Vile Rat Do you think your popularity in goonswarm is so low that you fear competing with Kalrand in the goonforum? Will you tell The Mittani to consider allowing Kalrand to post there about his CSM run or will The Mittani and you continue to behave like Gaddafi and his bootlicker? You should fight for free speech to show that you are a worthy CSM candidate! I already answered your question. You're wrong about him not allowed to post on the goonfleet forum. Ask any spy (LOL who needs to spy on Goonfleet anyways?) that have access to the goonfleet boards :) Since you earned yourself a 0/10 for reading comprehension again, i bolded and underlined a few words for you. Who says he can't post about his CSM run? The Mittani will kick Kalrand out of Goonswarm if he tells people to vote for him. Thats why The Mittani cancelled the tradition of goon primary elections to make sure that only he and his puppet Vile Rat get the vote and thats why Kalrand is only allowed to tell people to NOT vote for him on the goonforum. The Mittani and his puppet Vile Rat hate free speech and democratic competition. They dont hesitate to destroy everything what goons and SA stand for, just to get their little ego boost for beeing in CSM.
Doggsbody Lame Duck Logistics	Posted - 2011.03.01 21:33:00 - [67] Originally by: Zati Pasirga The Mittani will kick Kalrand out of Goonswarm if he tells people to vote for him. Thats why The Mittani cancelled the tradition of goon primary elections to make sure that only he and his puppet Vile Rat get the vote and thats why Kalrand is only allowed to tell people to NOT vote for him on the goonforum. The Mittani and his puppet Vile Rat hate free speech and democratic competition. They dont hesitate to destroy everything what goons and SA stand for, just to get their little ego boost for beeing in CSM. TBH anyone who believed the crap Mitanni was spouting about "straight talking" and "champion of the people" was thick as pig poo, but if this is true it really is pathetic, Mittens.
Karadion	Posted - 2011.03.01 21:38:00 - [68] Edited by: Karadion on 01/03/2011 21:39:02 Originally by: Zati Pasirga Originally by: Karadion Originally by: Zati Pasirga Then quote the part where i wrote that he is not allowed to run as a candidate for CSM please. @Vile Rat Do you think your popularity in goonswarm is so low that you fear competing with Kalrand in the goonforum? Will you tell The Mittani to consider allowing Kalrand to post there about his CSM run or will The Mittani and you continue to behave like Gaddafi and his bootlicker? You should fight for free speech to show that you are a worthy CSM candidate! I already answered your question. You're wrong about him not allowed to post on the goonfleet forum. Ask any spy (LOL who needs to spy on Goonfleet anyways?) that have access to the goonfleet boards :) Since you earned yourself a 0/10 for reading comprehension again, i bolded and underlined a few words for you. You have (read my lips) ZERO EVIDENCE that he is not allowed to post there about his CSM run. But of course your hearing is just as good as a post. Of course we're having a laugh at your frustrated anger that is directed at Goonfleet's communist dictatorship.
Doggsbody Lame Duck Logistics	Posted - 2011.03.01 21:45:00 - [69] Originally by: Karadion Edited by: Karadion on 01/03/2011 21:40:02 Originally by: Zati Pasirga Originally by: Karadion Originally by: Zati Pasirga Then quote the part where i wrote that he is not allowed to run as a candidate for CSM please. @Vile Rat Do you think your popularity in goonswarm is so low that you fear competing with Kalrand in the goonforum? Will you tell The Mittani to consider allowing Kalrand to post there about his CSM run or will The Mittani and you continue to behave like Gaddafi and his bootlicker? You should fight for free speech to show that you are a worthy CSM candidate! I already answered your question. You're wrong about him not allowed to post on the goonfleet forum. Ask any spy (LOL who needs to spy on Goonfleet anyways?) that have access to the goonfleet boards :) Since you earned yourself a 0/10 for reading comprehension again, i bolded and underlined a few words for you. You have (read my lips) ZERO EVIDENCE that he is not allowed to post there about his CSM run. Of course we're having a laugh at your frustrated anger that is directed at Goonfleet's communist dictatorship. Well, we do have your frothy-mouthed goon ragepost, which is starting to convince me...
Karadion	Posted - 2011.03.01 22:10:00 - [70] Originally by: Doggsbody Well, we do have your frothy-mouthed goon ragepost, which is starting to convince me... Now now I'm deaf however I do talk. So at times I do have saliva in my throat or the back of my mouth which I need to clear out so people can understand me when I talk but frothy? Never had that problem. In fact people who have that issue do annoy the heck out of me when I have to read their lips to understand them.

General Windypops The Littlest Hobos En Garde	Posted - 2011.03.01 22:19:00 - [71] Originally by: Karadion Originally by: Doggsbody Well, we do have your frothy-mouthed goon ragepost, which is starting to convince me... Now now I'm deaf however I do talk. So at times I do have saliva in my throat or the back of my mouth which I need to clear out so people can understand me when I talk but frothy? Never had that problem. In fact people who have that issue do annoy the heck out of me when I have to read their lips to understand them. Perhaps he was mistaken, and you have sand on your lips? Please resize your signature to no more than 120 x 400 pixels. - Adida Twitter:@genrlwindypops
Karadion	Posted - 2011.03.01 22:24:00 - [72] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Karadion Originally by: Doggsbody Well, we do have your frothy-mouthed goon ragepost, which is starting to convince me... Now now I'm deaf however I do talk. So at times I do have saliva in my throat or the back of my mouth which I need to clear out so people can understand me when I talk but frothy? Never had that problem. In fact people who have that issue do annoy the heck out of me when I have to read their lips to understand them. Perhaps he was mistaken, and you have sand on your lips? Chapstick actually.
Two Shots Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.01 22:35:00 - [73] Originally by: Zati Pasirga The Mittani will kick Kalrand out of Goonswarm if he tells people to vote for him. Thats why The Mittani cancelled the tradition of goon primary elections to make sure that only he and his puppet Vile Rat get the vote and thats why Kalrand is only allowed to tell people to NOT vote for him on the goonforum. The Mittani and his puppet Vile Rat hate free speech and democratic competition. They dont hesitate to destroy everything what goons and SA stand for, just to get their little ego boost for beeing in CSM. You really think that a guy who's a member of the Something Awful forum community is going to kick another guy who is also a member of the Something Awful forum community out of his Internet space guild because of a post on the forums? Really? I could understand if you were thinking of someone who's a bad poster like myself, but either you think that Kalrand is also a bad poster or you have no idea how goon culture works. Two Shots Goonwaffe
Twigand Berries Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.01 22:39:00 - [74] I am actively pursuing goon votes and have received no threats from the directorate. I know where they live, you see.
Lutineven	Posted - 2011.03.01 23:52:00 - [75] Originally by: 4C 4F 5645 Edited by: 4C 4F 5645 on 27/02/2011 02:21:55 Originally by: Doggsbody Even worse that they're now manipulating the playerbase into voting them in to positions where they can control CCP policy to suit their own self-preservation. Nah, they won't control CCP policy, even they are not naive enough to think CCP are blind to their manipulation and would listen to a one-sided CSM. They panicked because CSM5 managed to get CCP to pay attention and they just want to undo that work and sink CSM back into the irrelevancy of previous years so it can be ignored again. Your stupidity knows no limit. My guess is that you never left Jita.
Goddess Ishtar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.02 01:53:00 - [76] Originally by: Two Shots You really think that a guy who's a member of the Something Awful forum community is going to kick another guy who is also a member of the Something Awful forum community out of his Internet space guild because of a post on the forums? Bad posting should be rooted out and destroyed wherever and whenever it is found.
SavageBastard GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.02 04:12:00 - [77] Originally by: Zati Pasirga Will you tell The Mittani to consider allowing Kalrand to post there about his CSM run or will The Mittani and you continue to behave like Gaddafi and his bootlicker? You should fight for free speech to show that you are a worthy CSM candidate! It's official. The Jasmine Revolution is the new WWII!
Swynet	Posted - 2011.03.02 04:14:00 - [78] Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey ... lucky for players CCP doesnt listen to CSM and accept that you WILL GET your jump bridges removed! "DIS" ________________________________________________ Originally by: Goose99 In EVE, PVE can happen anywhere, anytime. Whenever you undock, you subject yourself to involuntary PVE.
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.02 17:21:00 - [79] Originally by: Twigand Berries I am actively pursuing goon votes and have received no threats from the directorate. I know where they live, you see. We saw what you did to boat. And the flask.
Dro Nee	Posted - 2011.03.02 17:40:00 - [80] Originally by: Vile rat So what's wrong? A great many things. From ship balance in the form of whole classes of ships becoming obsolete to the lack of economic scarcity making losses matter little to all involved. There are a distinct lack of goals once you take those first feeble steps into the unprotected space of lowsec/0.0 and this makes gameplay stangnant and pointless. Would you explain the metrics you employed in arriving at the conclusions you have re: what is wrong? For example, what metric do you use to conclude that a lack of CCP assigned goals is a problem? How would you know when the problem was fixed? Feel free to use a different example from your list in post [2] if you wish. Cheers

OhThis GuyAgain	Posted - 2011.03.02 21:13:00 - [81] Originally by: Dro Nee Feel free to use a different example from your list in post [2] if you wish. Please use full sentences, double-space your work, and cite your sources.
Dro Nee	Posted - 2011.03.02 21:19:00 - [82] Originally by: OhThis GuyAgain Please use full sentences, double-space your work, and cite your sources. Also: 12pt Times New Roman font with 1" margins. Is it that obvious? I really have to stop posting from work.
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.03 14:36:00 - [83] Originally by: Dro Nee Originally by: Vile rat So what's wrong? A great many things. From ship balance in the form of whole classes of ships becoming obsolete to the lack of economic scarcity making losses matter little to all involved. There are a distinct lack of goals once you take those first feeble steps into the unprotected space of lowsec/0.0 and this makes gameplay stangnant and pointless. Would you explain the metrics you employed in arriving at the conclusions you have re: what is wrong? For example, what metric do you use to conclude that a lack of CCP assigned goals is a problem? How would you know when the problem was fixed? Feel free to use a different example from your list in post [2] if you wish. Cheers First off thanks for the question. 1. For example, what metric do you use to conclude that a lack of CCP assigned goals is a problem? A. For an action to be fun there has to be a point. You go to 0.0 to get access to the best minerals (heh) the best ratting, the ability to build or conquer outposts so you can have a little piece of eve with your name on it. There's a reason to go there and engage in combat that somebody, somewhere, wants to fight you to have. This creates conflict which is the lifes blood of the game. You can't say the same about lowsec however. You can't take outposts, the ratting is ****ty, and if you were inclined to mine you'd be wasting your time trying to mine there. Lowsec ends up being a place to go if you aren't big enough to take space and you don't want to be somebody's vassal or if you have no interest in the goals 0.0 provide and want to hopefully find something to fight. There are no goals however, there's no point. This needs to be fixed for both lowsec, and for nullsec as well as if you aren't a large power bloc you don't have access to the majority of the goals that 0.0 provides. 2. How would you know when the problem was fixed? A. When there is a point. When people want to go to lowsec/nullsec and have achievable goals that can't just be one upped by a much bigger force of people stomping them down. No I'm not saying small groups should be able to beat large groups in fleet fight, I'm saying there needs to be goals where having a large group provides you no great advantage over a talented small group. That element of the game needs a lot of attention.
Tango Zulu GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.04 00:17:00 - [84] Originally by: Disgruntled Flying Monkey The whole purpose of removing Jump Bridges was so conflicts could arise locally and it would be difficult for a few active directors in a powerbloc to hold so much space, thats why your leaders and every other NC leader is angry at the suggested change because in effect it makes NAPs pointless due to travelling and maintenance of space without ease. You speak as someone who has never experienced deep 0.0 travel. I trust based on your statements and corporation this is your main. If you get a moment, then please do this: -Acquire a digital map of the eve universe without a sovereignty overlay, but with security statuses. -open it in a simple imaging program. (If you're using a Microsoft Windows operating system, open your start menu and type "paint" into the search bar. Select the only option you should get, and when it opens, click "file," then "open." Find the file and double click it to open.) -Using a pen(or brush) tool, draw a line around the first 5 systems in any direction outward from the center that show, after their name, the number 0.0. -Then, again with the same tool, pick your color of choice, and randomly click that area outside the amoebic-shaped ring you just drew, for about 3-7 seconds depending on how far into the future you're looking. This exercise will have showed you what the sovereignty map will look like, if your concept of logistical nerfs were to see fruition. Let's be honest, you'll go 40 jumps to ruin the day of someone who claimed sovereignty in your sector of the universe, but you won't go 40 jumps to source the minerals or modules for/of the 1600mm Artillery IIs you need to do it. This is because larger scale logistics are required for larger scale corporations and alliances. What you think your proposing is a dissolution of blocs, what you're actually seeking is the dissolution of alliances in general. So long as there are people, where there are enemies, there will be enemies of those enemies, and they may as well be friends. Corporations bond together to form alliances, alliances form blocs. Corporations will still form blocs if there's no alliance mechanic, based on mutual interests, and agreement on what alcohol tastes best on Tuesdays. Sovereignty will be held by the most powerful blocs still, and will only be however far people feel like reaching to live. And those people will control the trade routes to the outer areas, denying access to the smaller entities anyways. And when people try to etch their name in space, they'll get it, but for the 4 days it'll take to take the system from them. Because even if no one wants to run from Period Basis in a Mammoth to get the Hydrogen Isotopes their jump freighter didn't being enough of, You could hide in Jove space for all anyone cares: Someone will still find a way to get there just to f*** your day up.
Skunk Gracklaw Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.04 01:22:00 - [85] Originally by: Tango Zulu You speak as someone who has never experienced deep 0.0 travel. I trust based on your statements and corporation this is your main. If you get a moment, then please do this: You're trying to use logic against Bismaru/Kalle Deimos and his sock puppet army. It's really not worth the effort.
Awesome Possum Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS	Posted - 2011.03.04 02:20:00 - [86] I'm willing to vote for Vile Rat, but there's a 300 mill isk pre-vote security deposit, he'll get it back right after the election. Please send 300mill per vote (up to 5) to this character, thanks. ♥
Headerman Minmatar Metanoia. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.03.04 03:00:00 - [87] o/ Vile, best of luck, i hope you get in :D I would like to say a few things if i could. I have not been playing Eve for long, but i have been closely following it since late 2003. IMO, traditionally there had been three and a half aspects to Eve in terms of flying: high sec (natural newby space), low sec (fun shenannigans with others), nul sec (serious player alliance foundations), and war decs (a way to mix all three up). Traditionally Nul sec space has been nearly 'off limits' to new people in a large group due to easy gankability, and that is fine. Lately though, Dreddit came along and with an upside down map, they ended up in Goon space with a new alliance BUILT for newbies (TEST). personally, having tried low sec and nul sec space several times previously, it ended very badly with much isk burnt and a feeling of 'well bugger this for a joke'. TEST though is another story. Newbies can come in and be surrounded by fellow alliance members and feel safe in a stable environment. Bittervets oversee things in the alliance and from other alliances, helping the newbro's along. I think this combination of new people being adopted by vets is one of the best things ever in EVE. Newbies can learn quickly about isk making and PVP better than in any area of high sec. I for one would enthusiastcly support anyone on the CSM if they researched other ways to promote this team work and promoted it to CCP in ways to make it easier to happen. I think it has happened in the north ALOT because a) the ratting is good b) Tech moons c) not near amarr space (i think noobs may be KOS more with Amarr than other factions). In the south i would support better ratting proposals to not only invite established alliances to help newbies in to their space, but also remove the NEED to have bots. lastly, i will add my voice to ANYONE who promote fixing the Hel's bonuses. At present, it is ****. Please get it fixed to be as effective as an Aeon/Nyx. And fix the Niddy to plz. A vote for Vile Rat is not a vote for Goons, it is a vote for an effective voice to the people who run EVE.
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.04 13:54:00 - [88] Originally by: Headerman o/ Vile, best of luck, i hope you get in :D I would like to say a few things if i could. I have not been playing Eve for long, but i have been closely following it since late 2003. IMO, traditionally there had been three and a half aspects to Eve in terms of flying: high sec (natural newby space), low sec (fun shenannigans with others), nul sec (serious player alliance foundations), and war decs (a way to mix all three up). Traditionally Nul sec space has been nearly 'off limits' to new people in a large group due to easy gankability, and that is fine. Lately though, Dreddit came along and with an upside down map, they ended up in Goon space with a new alliance BUILT for newbies (TEST). personally, having tried low sec and nul sec space several times previously, it ended very badly with much isk burnt and a feeling of 'well bugger this for a joke'. TEST though is another story. Newbies can come in and be surrounded by fellow alliance members and feel safe in a stable environment. Bittervets oversee things in the alliance and from other alliances, helping the newbro's along. I think this combination of new people being adopted by vets is one of the best things ever in EVE. Newbies can learn quickly about isk making and PVP better than in any area of high sec. I for one would enthusiastcly support anyone on the CSM if they researched other ways to promote this team work and promoted it to CCP in ways to make it easier to happen. I think it has happened in the north ALOT because a) the ratting is good b) Tech moons c) not near amarr space (i think noobs may be KOS more with Amarr than other factions). In the south i would support better ratting proposals to not only invite established alliances to help newbies in to their space, but also remove the NEED to have bots. lastly, i will add my voice to ANYONE who promote fixing the Hel's bonuses. At present, it is ****. Please get it fixed to be as effective as an Aeon/Nyx. And fix the Niddy to plz. A vote for Vile Rat is not a vote for Goons, it is a vote for an effective voice to the people who run EVE. ...but every hel just extends my buffer tank!
Vile Rat's Tattoo	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:13:00 - [89] Have you seen me? If you did, you'd vote for the guy who I'm stuck with (and who's stuck with me).
Dro Nee	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:54:00 - [90] Edited by: Dro Nee on 04/03/2011 17:54:58 Originally by: Vile rat First off thanks for the question. 1. For example, what metric do you use to conclude that a lack of CCP assigned goals is a problem? A. For an action to be fun there has to be a point. You go to 0.0 to get access to the best minerals (heh) the best ratting, the ability to build or conquer outposts so you can have a little piece of eve with your name on it. There's a reason to go there and engage in combat that somebody, somewhere, wants to fight you to have. This creates conflict which is the lifes blood of the game. You can't say the same about lowsec however. You can't take outposts, the ratting is ***ty, and if you were inclined to mine you'd be wasting your time trying to mine there. Lowsec ends up being a place to go if you aren't big enough to take space and you don't want to be somebody's vassal or if you have no interest in the goals 0.0 provide and want to hopefully find something to fight. There are no goals however, there's no point. This needs to be fixed for both lowsec, and for nullsec as well as if you aren't a large power bloc you don't have access to the majority of the goals that 0.0 provides. 2. How would you know when the problem was fixed? A. When there is a point. When people want to go to lowsec/nullsec and have achievable goals that can't just be one upped by a much bigger force of people stomping them down. No I'm not saying small groups should be able to beat large groups in fleet fight, I'm saying there needs to be goals where having a large group provides you no great advantage over a talented small group. That element of the game needs a lot of attention. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Could you clarify your points for me a little? 0.0: So may I infer that, in your opinion, its not really a lack* of goals but the lack of ability to attain those goals for some groups? You seemed to articulate the goals (better rats,mining, ownership)initially, but perhaps I misunderstood. Low: Again you seemed to articulate some goals (pew pew without the "hassles" of 0.0) but then claim that there is no point. Is your argument, or what i interpreted in the 0.0 section, that the goals are too hard to achieve? Also could you clarify your metric a little further? You mention that you know these problems are "fixed" when 1)there is a point/when people go to low/null and 2) those goals are achievable by small groups. It seems that people already go to those areas and have goals for doing so, is your concern in 1) that there are insufficient people doing so? If so, then what would be the numbers you think are necessary? Cheers! EDIT- formatting

Hyveres Caldari Resilience.	Posted - 2011.03.05 02:05:00 - [91] Edited by: Hyveres on 05/03/2011 02:06:05 Originally by: Tango Zulu You speak as someone who has never experienced deep 0.0 travel. I trust based on your statements and corporation this is your main. If you get a moment, then please do this: -Acquire a digital map of the eve universe without a sovereignty overlay, but with security statuses. -open it in a simple imaging program. (If you're using a Microsoft Windows operating system, open your start menu and type "paint" into the search bar. Select the only option you should get, and when it opens, click "file," then "open." Find the file and double click it to open.) -Using a pen(or brush) tool, draw a line around the first 5 systems in any direction outward from the center that show, after their name, the number 0.0. -Then, again with the same tool, pick your color of choice, and randomly click that area outside the amoebic-shaped ring you just drew, for about 3-7 seconds depending on how far into the future you're looking. This exercise will have showed you what the sovereignty map will look like, if your concept of logistical nerfs were to see fruition. Let's be honest, you'll go 40 jumps to ruin the day of someone who claimed sovereignty in your sector of the universe, but you won't go 40 jumps to source the minerals or modules for/of the 1600mm Artillery IIs you need to do it. This is because larger scale logistics are required for larger scale corporations and alliances. What you think your proposing is a dissolution of blocs, what you're actually seeking is the dissolution of alliances in general. So long as there are people, where there are enemies, there will be enemies of those enemies, and they may as well be friends. Corporations bond together to form alliances, alliances form blocs. Corporations will still form blocs if there's no alliance mechanic, based on mutual interests, and agreement on what alcohol tastes best on Tuesdays. Sovereignty will be held by the most powerful blocs still, and will only be however far people feel like reaching to live. And those people will control the trade routes to the outer areas, denying access to the smaller entities anyways. And when people try to etch their name in space, they'll get it, but for the 4 days it'll take to take the system from them. Because even if no one wants to run from Period Basis in a Mammoth to get the Hydrogen Isotopes their jump freighter didn't bring enough of, You could hide in Jove space for all anyone cares: Someone will still find a way to get there just to f*** your day up. Edit: I'm leaving this up for truth, but I apologize for not noticing Disgruntled Flying Monkey's posts were obvious trolls. It took how blatantly off they were in TheMittani's thread for me to notice. So you are implying that the current JB system is perfect and should never be changed since it makes logistics "easy". I've lived in venal & curse as a member of smaller entities and we did not need those JBs, I waspart of IT during their fountain invasion when the alliance had no JBs up and we did fine. The only ones arguing for keeping the current system seems to either belong to the great northern JB network or the drone region JB network. Since those JB networks are the main reasons these coalitions can maintain their size and flexibility. I wouldnt go as far as removing JB networks totally but upping the fuel consumption and/or at least increasing their PG/CPU cost significantly to make sure that they cannot be on a heavily defended deathstar. Another idea I've seen but dont really like is restricting them to alliance only, it might reduce their impact on 0.0 but it blatantly favours bigger alliances. The other huge downside with the current way 0.0 logistics work with JBs is that it links the entire universe to highsec tradehubs. Instead of 0.0 having its own market its all import/export. So I will actually ask a question, and that is how would you change JBs to make them less of a force projection tool and more logistical? There is no "overkill." There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload."
SmilingVagrant Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.05 04:02:00 - [92] Originally by: Hyveres I wouldnt go as far as removing JB networks totally but upping the fuel consumption and/or at least increasing their PG/CPU cost significantly to make sure that they cannot be on a heavily defended deathstar. Another idea I've seen but dont really like is restricting them to alliance only, it might reduce their impact on 0.0 but it blatantly favours bigger alliances. This may come as a shock to you, but the PG/CPU cost of the JB is actually one of the favored ideas being kicked around on the goonfleet forums. Another is reducing the HP of certain pos mods so it would be easier to temporarily snap logistics chains. But really any competent cloaky gang can destroy ships off of a JB pos, you need look no further than the daily shenanigans off EC- to prove that.
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.06 21:36:00 - [93] Edited by: Vile rat on 06/03/2011 21:36:40 Originally by: Dro Nee Thanks for taking the time to respond. Could you clarify your points for me a little? 0.0: So may I infer that, in your opinion, its not really a lack of goals but the lack of ability to attain those goals for some groups? You seemed to articulate the goals (better rats,mining, ownership)initially, but perhaps I misunderstood. Both actually. The biggest issue is lack of attainable goals sure, but the lack of goals in general hurt the experience. I fear you misunderstood, the idea of 'goals' doesn't mean mining and better rats, it means strategic objectives that can be accomplished by small groups where the counter isn't "more dudes". Quote: Low: Again you seemed to articulate some goals (pew pew without the "hassles" of 0.0) but then claim that there is no point. Is your argument, or what i interpreted in the 0.0 section, that the goals are too hard to achieve? Also could you clarify your metric a little further? You mention that you know these problems are "fixed" when 1)there is a point/when people go to low/null and 2) those goals are achievable by small groups. It seems that people already go to those areas and have goals for doing so, is your concern in 1) that there are insufficient people doing so? If so, then what would be the numbers you think are necessary? Cheers! EDIT- formatting Are you asking if there's a point where I'd say the problem is fixed and things are working well? Just clarifying your question because metrics are going to be worthless in determining this. Either people are having fun and think the end game content is entertaining and achievable or they don't.
Dr Kalipso	Posted - 2011.03.06 22:20:00 - [94] Screw Goons!!! But I will vote for Vile Rat cause he DOES play EVE and does know what we want. +1
Delta2003	Posted - 2011.03.07 12:35:00 - [95] +1 and +1 I support Vile Rat and The Mittani for CSM To many running for CSM are Grand Standing and kissing babies. Vile Rat and The Mittani have no airs and graces, they say it as it is and have zero tolerance for bull.. The ones that advocate negativity are followers. In contrast, the ones that support recognise leadership qualities because we are leaders ourselves.
Viktor Resnov	Posted - 2011.03.07 14:10:00 - [96] Originally by: Hyveres The other huge downside with the current way 0.0 logistics work with JBs is that it links the entire universe to highsec tradehubs. Instead of 0.0 having its own market its all import/export. Actually, that's what Jump Freighters (and to a lesser extent, Rorquals) get used for. Also, production in 0.0 is a complete joke right now, so the only thing to do is to ship in from highsec.
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.09 11:57:00 - [97] Edited by: Vile rat on 09/03/2011 11:57:25 http://www.eveonline.com/council/voting/Vote.asp?c=379 Direct link to vote for Vile rat. Thank you all for your support! Vote early, vote often.
charles laforge 4n4rchy	Posted - 2011.03.09 12:22:00 - [98] you sir have my vote, not for anything you have said so far,,nor the lack of promises you have made,, but for on thing which comes from in the game, many years ago i contacted you to ask a favour about one of your members greifing one of our corp miners, the attacks stopped and much joy was gained in our tiny lil corp, the fact you bothered was impressive, the fact it worked more so some call you a liar, a scoundrel,, i just think your effective in what you choose to do,, and thats what the csm needs,, for good or bad, the impass must end go grab a coffee,, this could take a while...
Kismeteer GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.09 16:49:00 - [99] You sir have 2 votes from me. Please make CCP do the things the players that pay their bills want instead of making us do more boring logistics. Every other MMO out there has a fast travel option from place to place. Except eve, if you don't count jump gates/Titan bridges. Imagine WoW without mounts or griffins/bats, but instead you can just kill yourself to some remote town and then get new equipment. A vote for Vile Rat is a vote for anyone who's ever had to haul crap anything through a dangerous system before. and that's pretty much everyone. (Rancer extra quick transport checking in!) -- Kismeteer, carebear extraordinaire
Sepheir Sepheron Caldari Between Ordeals	Posted - 2011.03.09 17:24:00 - [100] Originally by: Vile rat Originally by: Doggsbody I actually thought that the rumours that NC and Goonswarm gad planned a massive campaign to claim all seats on the CSM were a joke until I read this. Pitiful, depressing and shameless. Bad enough that NC / Goons have killed 0.0 alliance warfare through lazy defence pacts. Even worse that they're now manipulating the playerbase into voting them in to positions where they can control CCP policy to suit their own self-preservation. Shame on you, Vile Rat. The sooner this game is reclaimed by genuine players the better. So I suppose I'm not getting your vote huh? Or mine, most of the people voting for you are goons... Kind of obvious.

Dante Hellgast Caldari Militaris Industries	Posted - 2011.03.09 17:48:00 - [101] You got my vote.. You can release the hostages now
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island	Posted - 2011.03.09 18:39:00 - [102] Vile rat, You have my attention, many of the points you post about are things I have myself examined on my blog in the past. And I believe you are very much on the right train of thought. My one question to you would be: "Do you feel there should be more gameplay options for criminal characters, either by taking away some of the disadvantages associated with being an outlaw, or by offering strong incentives for more people to conduct activity in lowsec (and thus provide actual prey/hunter gameplay)." regards, HB
Ardamalis Caldari A Third Betrayal Circle of the Shadows	Posted - 2011.03.09 20:04:00 - [103] I hereby endorse this product and/or service.
Thora Milies Minmatar Kriegsmarinewerft Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.09 22:03:00 - [104] I actually supported this product/ service... which means you got my Vote
2ofthe9 Gallente Chantry Of The Knights Templar	Posted - 2011.03.10 03:39:00 - [105] I fully support this candidate. Many of his thoughts have been voiced by others in discussions I've sat in on. I do believe he has herd them as well and set up a workable set of solutions. He is not underestimating the complexity of EVE and I like that. Remember one thing, Where you are, is, where you are.
Tehg Rhind	Posted - 2011.03.10 05:03:00 - [106] Supporting the removal of T2 BPOs is a remarkably dangerous position and one that I doubt any of the market community would support.
Gella Darru	Posted - 2011.03.10 14:33:00 - [107] up you go! for great balance!
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.10 15:04:00 - [108] Originally by: Tehg Rhind Supporting the removal of T2 BPOs is a remarkably dangerous position and one that I doubt any of the market community would support. If you're sitting on a pile of T2 BPOs and my candidacy would hurt your continued enjoyment of this feature then you have a choice to make. I feel this mechanism bad to begin with and horribly unfair to new players and if you are a single issue voter then I strongly encourage you to not vote for me and instead vote for somebody who would better represent your interests.
pushedback GoonWaffe	Posted - 2011.03.12 19:48:00 - [109] http://www.worsttattooever.com/ 4 MORE YEARS! YEAH!
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ImmaSplodeYou HAMMERHOUSE	Posted - 2011.03.13 21:41:00 - [111] Backtothetop
Almgard	Posted - 2011.03.15 12:41:00 - [112] i think he is the most interesting candidate for this job...i vote him...and i hope that something finaly will change...expecially the dying mining, the part of the game that i love more than others, and its oppressed...
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.15 13:44:00 - [113] Edited by: Vile rat on 15/03/2011 13:44:37 Originally by: Almgard i think he is the most interesting candidate for this job...i vote him...and i hope that something finaly will change...expecially the dying mining, the part of the game that i love more than others, and its oppressed... When I first started we'd all mine Crokite and it was good money. Mining itself has always been boring but you get a couple friends on TS all heavily drunk and mining can become kinda fun in a way. I'm not going to say Mining is a great option for most but it is a problem that one of the main PVE experiences has been ruined by mission loot refuse and drone region mineral supply. There has to be a point in the end even if you hate mining (then support Mining overhaul because you love hunting miners). If you can safely refine your way to a healthy mineral economy then Mining has no point. Behold, my first mining ship: http://killboard.goonfleet.com/km/93655 I had no clue what I was doing in this game.
Nicholai Sanse League of Non-Aligned Worlds Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2011.03.16 12:22:00 - [114] I agree with your views, so you have my vote.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder	Posted - 2011.03.16 12:53:00 - [115] What's your position on microtransactions ? ----- Malevolence. is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.17 13:47:00 - [116] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Edited by: Louis deGuerre on 16/03/2011 14:33:35 What's your position on microtransactions ? EDIT : Ah, the hell with it, you got my vote. /me facepalms for voting for a goon. Microtransactions? Well we have little to go on regarding CCP's platform re: microtransactions aside from blogs like this one: CCP Zulu's blog about microtransactinos Quote: Itæs important to clarify that virtual goods sales isnæt an arbitrary - or particularly greedy - decision. There is a constantly decreasing number of MMOæs out there that donæt incorporate virtual goods sales at some level. - games that aren't responding to this trend are dying out. Diversifying the business model allows us to offer our players the services and features they desire in ways that are conducive to how they wish to spend their entertainment dollars. The result is that we provide a wider range of options to our subscribers which, in turn, leaves us better positioned to react to future seismic shifts in the market. I have a couple problems with this. First we have the statement "Itæs important to clarify that virtual goods sales isnæt an arbitrary - or particularly greedy - decision." which is backed up by a bunch of words that seem to indicate that their reasoning that it isn't greedy is that "everybody else is doing it" which I don't accept as a reasonable response. Eve has more subscribers than at any point in its history and that income has served CCP well towards being resourced to bring a good product to the table. Is that income suddenly inadequate? To deny minor changes to the game that enhance your ability to personalize your experience to any but those who want to spend extra RL cash I feel is short changing your customer base and opening the door to subtly introducing a wide range of for fee options that make the game less immersive to those of us who 'only' pay for a monthly subscription. Microtransactions are considered a reasonable income flow for games who's core content is otherwise free but in this instance it seems like a blatant bout of greed that could open up a rather slippery slope towards a game where you pay to play but if you really wanna play you gotta pay even more. So no, not a fan of microtransactions in eve. Just release the damn content for everybody and stop trying to nickle and dime your userbase. You aren't an airline, stop charging for peanuts.
Vile rat GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.18 16:26:00 - [117] Running out of time to vote! Vote for Vile rat!
Arkanon Nerevar Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.21 20:41:00 - [118] I have a few questions regarding the changes you would support: 1. What specifics do you plan to address in regards to bringing Gallente in line with the other factions, do you support redoing hybrid turrets as a whole, alterations of ship stats and bonuses. Some have suggested a overhaul of armor tanking, what is your position on this subject. 2. Do you plan to support mission runners and any changes made to the mission/agent aspect of the game. 3. What is your position on faction warfare and lowsec. thanks in advance
Azishkra'elhykai Mizamel Minmatar Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance	Posted - 2011.03.21 22:37:00 - [119] Originally by: Helicity Boson I'll be voting for you, and I've endorsed you on my little blog. (also I may or may not bully others to vote too) regards, HB Confirming I got bullied via Helicity's blog and Vile Rat's own very persuasive arguments into volleying for him. _____________________________ Yes, it's a long name.
Isonda Gallente Okkelen Grave Robbers	Posted - 2011.03.25 11:26:00 - [120] I for one believe there should be more than 3-4 tactics that work in this great game. Vile Rat gets my vote.



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