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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
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Posted - 2011.03.10 22:11:00 -
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Block, go grab a smoke or a coffee or something and relax a little.
I speak English and Welsh. If I were to name my house "Ty Bach" which would be "little house" I would get laughed at by native welsh speakers. Why? Simply because outside toilets were and are referred to as the "little house" or "Ty Bach".
The words I use are correct (my house is little) but they have a different meaning to that which I intended. Until someone were to explain that to me I'd get seriously ****ed off with them and think nasty things about them.
This is why people are saying that there could well be some unintended misunderstanding coming from the fact that you are not a native speaker. (I wouldn't have guessed though :)
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.03.10 22:17:00 -
[92]
 Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: RAW23
Just get someone who is better than you to help.
Yes, and according to you a native speaker is better than me. According to you, a native speaker can communicate more effectively than a non-native speaker. This type of discrimination practice is not tolerated in the US.
Should I get a native UK speaker or a native US speaker?
Dear god! Are you trolling me or do you really not get the sense of what I just posted?
Some native speakers will be better than you, some will not. Some non-native speakers will be better than you and some will not. The only thing that matters is that you get SOMEONE who is better than you to help you out because you are clearly missing half of what is being posted in your direction.
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.03.10 22:55:00 -
[93]
Originally by: RAW23
However, it may be worth passing explanations through a native speaker before posting them, where possible, in order to avoid miscommunication.
Well, apparently you donÆt seem to understand what IÆm posting. It must be that IÆm not using a native speaker. Please, could someone translate for me?
Some forms of discrimination are very subtle. Your implication that I should get a native speaker because he will be better at expressing my point is considered a discriminatory practice. Yes, very subtle, but discriminatory nonetheless.
@CCP,
I hope you are reading this and take some action. The last thing you want is to condone such practice, particularly in a game that is played by people of all different ethnical backgrounds. I donÆt know in Iceland, but in the US, this is consider discrimination.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.03.10 23:03:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: RAW23
However, it may be worth passing explanations through a native speaker before posting them, where possible, in order to avoid miscommunication.
Well, apparently you donÆt seem to understand what IÆm posting. It must be that IÆm not using a native speaker. Please, could someone translate for me?
Some forms of discrimination are very subtle. Your implication that I should get a native speaker because he will be better at expressing my point is considered a discriminatory practice. Yes, very subtle, but discriminatory nonetheless.
@CCP,
I hope you are reading this and take some action. The last thing you want is to condone such practice, particularly in a game that is played by people of all different ethnical backgrounds. I donÆt know in Iceland, but in the US, this is consider discrimination.
Heh - you should have held back a little. Obvious troll is obvious.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.03.10 23:05:00 -
[95]
So then, what do you mean by needing 10 billion space dollars to test code?
What, precisely, is your use case? You do not need to master english to explain this adequately. So far, you have not explained this at all.
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.03.10 23:09:00 -
[96]
Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: RAW23
However, it may be worth passing explanations through a native speaker before posting them, where possible, in order to avoid miscommunication.
Well, apparently you donÆt seem to understand what IÆm posting. It must be that IÆm not using a native speaker. Please, could someone translate for me?
Some forms of discrimination are very subtle. Your implication that I should get a native speaker because he will be better at expressing my point is considered a discriminatory practice. Yes, very subtle, but discriminatory nonetheless.
@CCP,
I hope you are reading this and take some action. The last thing you want is to condone such practice, particularly in a game that is played by people of all different ethnical backgrounds. I donÆt know in Iceland, but in the US, this is consider discrimination.
Heh - you should have held back a little. Obvious troll is obvious.
No, I am very serious about it, and I hope you get a temporary ban.
Discriminatory practices should not be tolerated anywhere.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.03.10 23:21:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: RAW23
However, it may be worth passing explanations through a native speaker before posting them, where possible, in order to avoid miscommunication.
Well, apparently you donÆt seem to understand what IÆm posting. It must be that IÆm not using a native speaker. Please, could someone translate for me?
Some forms of discrimination are very subtle. Your implication that I should get a native speaker because he will be better at expressing my point is considered a discriminatory practice. Yes, very subtle, but discriminatory nonetheless.
@CCP,
I hope you are reading this and take some action. The last thing you want is to condone such practice, particularly in a game that is played by people of all different ethnical backgrounds. I donÆt know in Iceland, but in the US, this is consider discrimination.
Heh - you should have held back a little. Obvious troll is obvious.
No, I am very serious about it, and I hope you get a temporary ban.
Discriminatory practices should not be tolerated anywhere.
Better report me then.
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari
Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2011.03.10 23:29:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: RAW23
Just get someone who is better than you to help.
Yes, and according to you a native speaker is better than me. According to you, a native speaker can communicate more effectively than a non-native speaker. This type of discrimination practice is not tolerated in the US.
Should I get a native UK speaker or a native US speaker?
1. You are very close to going into an area that can only result in tears.
2. You're using UK & American native speakers as examples? Aren't you aware of the old adage Americans and Brits are divided by a common langauge?
3. Yes there are nuances to language that can only be conferred by someone who is fluent. If you can't confer those nuances then that will impede communication. It's called "reality".
4. How dare you include me in that list!? Your explanations were abysmal, laughable and grossly inadequate. You don't like it? Tough, I can't care less what you do or do not like. You explanations c.f. testing software are still so completely laughable that they don't pass the smell test. The alternative explanations have been forwarded simply because your original explanation was so inadequate.
Really I'm starting to get a bit irritated by this.
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Caldariftw123
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Posted - 2011.03.10 23:32:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: Block Ukx
ôSurely you are not that disorganizedö
ôOk ill be the first one to yell SCAMö
ôGood grief, you must be joking!ö
ôReputation counts for nothingö
ôpathetic, truly patheticö
ôGive it up, Block. You're doing yourself a disserviceö
ômost stupid reason I have yet to see in MDö
ôrunning a huge ponzi schemeö
ôfrankly tells me that you don't seem to understandö
ômy gut instinct on an offer like this says that it's a scamö
ôit may be worth passing explanations through a native speaker before posting themö
So poor explanations on my part deserve this type of response?
Heh .. even when people are trying to "reach an olive branch out to you" so to speak, you turn arrogant, hostile, evasive and rude .. RAW has been infinitely patient with you through all the threads debating your business so far, if people have any respect left for you after this ridiculous exchange ("discrimination" wtf are you on about boy) I'd be very surprised .. you really should not be the 'face of BSAC' because you give that business a BAD name.
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari
Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2011.03.10 23:35:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Lauren Hellfury
Block, go grab a smoke or a coffee or something and relax a little.
I speak English and Welsh. If I were to name my house "Ty Bach" which would be "little house" I would get laughed at by native welsh speakers. Why? Simply because outside toilets were and are referred to as the "little house" or "Ty Bach".
The words I use are correct (my house is little) but they have a different meaning to that which I intended. Until someone were to explain that to me I'd get seriously ****ed off with them and think nasty things about them.
This is why people are saying that there could well be some unintended misunderstanding coming from the fact that you are not a native speaker. (I wouldn't have guessed though :)
Google "buick lacrosse canada" and look at the examples there.
Slang, cultural idioms, etc. All are conferred more precisely by native speakers who have lived in that culture.
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.03.10 23:43:00 -
[101]
How has this guy escaped being taken through the ringer like this for so long?
This guy is a relic of the "MD Elite" era, where all they did was jerk each other off with how "brilliant" all of their coding-based, yet ultimately stupid, ideas were.
The fact that this MD dinosaur still has other people's ISK is a recipe for hilarity. My guess is a selective payback for "supporters" after a rage-quit implosion.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.10 23:54:00 -
[102]
I like how RAW's cringing 11th-hour peace-mission to the fuhrer-bunker was firmly rejected with a slap in the face. You have to hand it to Block, if nothing else, he is playing out his role of evil madman to a tee. I just hope he goes down in a commanding blaze of glory rather than as a damp squib.
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Naya Sky
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Posted - 2011.03.11 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Block Ukx
Everyone will find out on April 9, 2011.
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Everyone knows without a shred of doubt that I will pay back the investors on April 9.
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Off course everyone knows, even you know very well I will pay back on April 9.
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Please wait till April 9 before you scream scam.
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I don't think a 100 ISK coupon will be a good test of the current interest rate.
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Yes, but I beleive 10B will yield a better measure of the "risk-free" interest rate.
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That's exactly why the 10B will be a good test for the "risk-free" interest rate
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For this group of investors IÆm trying to gauge the current ôrisk-freeö interest rate.
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This bond is mostly for me to test my idea of gauging the "risk-free" interest rate.
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With the current market, I felt that 10 B ISK is good size bond that will allow me get a measure of the ôeffective risk-freeö interest rate.
I don't know in what fantasy world do you live in but there is no risk-free investment in EVE. And if anything the recent scams have shown us that 'reputation' doesn't mean much around here and will in no way, shape or form prevent someone from running away with money.
And stating that you need 10B to "mostly test the code" is the most stupid and ridiculous reason I have ever seen on MD. And if you really need to test the code why can't you do it with 1M, 10M or 100M?? It has been asked before but you are avoiding the question with you "risk-free" nonsense.
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.03.11 00:13:00 -
[104]
The racism in this thread is just sickening! Quit picking on Block on account of his unspecified heritage and unspecified race and ethnicity! For all you know he could be <fill in blank> just like you.
Shame on you all.
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Sito Jaxa
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Posted - 2011.03.11 00:23:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Sito Jaxa on 11/03/2011 00:25:04
Originally by: Naya Sky
Originally by: Block Ukx
Everyone will find out on April 9, 2011.
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Everyone knows without a shred of doubt that I will pay back the investors on April 9.
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Off course everyone knows, even you know very well I will pay back on April 9.
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Please wait till April 9 before you scream scam.
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I don't think a 100 ISK coupon will be a good test of the current interest rate.
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Yes, but I beleive 10B will yield a better measure of the "risk-free" interest rate.
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That's exactly why the 10B will be a good test for the "risk-free" interest rate
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For this group of investors IÆm trying to gauge the current ôrisk-freeö interest rate.
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This bond is mostly for me to test my idea of gauging the "risk-free" interest rate.
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With the current market, I felt that 10 B ISK is good size bond that will allow me get a measure of the ôeffective risk-freeö interest rate.
I don't know in what fantasy world do you live in but there is no risk-free investment in EVE. And if anything the recent scams have shown us that 'reputation' doesn't mean much around here and will in no way, shape or form prevent someone from running away with money.
And stating that you need 10B to "mostly test the code" is the most stupid and ridiculous reason I have ever seen on MD. And if you really need to test the code why can't you do it with 1M, 10M or 100M?? It has been asked before but you are avoiding the question with you "risk-free" nonsense.
No no, the risk is "free". Nobody will force you to take the risk nor will they ask you to pay for the risk. It's just included with the investment.
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Krythas
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Posted - 2011.03.11 00:48:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Tutskii
The racism in this thread is just sickening! Quit picking on Block on account of his unspecified heritage and unspecified race and ethnicity! For all you know he could be <fill in blank> just like you.
Shame on you all.
This has been an exceptionally entertaining thread, and things like this just make it better.
Oh, and writing some code to break down and itemise the random moods of investors ? sheesh, if you can do that why not become the foremost authority on A.I ? It'd be a lot more lucrative than playing internet spaceships.
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Khanid Voltar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2011.03.11 01:15:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 11/03/2011 01:15:30
Block, I will happily say as someone who has read all your threads, the trolls and the defences and still invested in you, you have across as a bit of an idiot in your more recent responses on this one.
Raw really was just trying to be constructive. Native english ability aside, you SUCK at communicating what you are trying to say effectively. You really do. Thats not me being racist, that's me being truthful.
You also SUCK at understanding the nuances of what someone is saying to you. Yes MD is a complete cesspit these days, but that doesnt mean you have to act all butthurt ALL of the time that anyone doesnt understand what you mean.
Personally I think you owe Raw an apology. But thats up to you.
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.03.11 01:35:00 -
[108]
Imagine the following situation.
Two people apply to the same job. One is a native speaker and the other one is not.
If the company hires the native speaker under the assumption that ônative speakers are better at communicatingö instead of based on their ability to write, it would be considered racism.
RawÆs comment that I should find a native speaker so I can better communicate is nothing more than a form of discrimination. He is assuming that a native speaker will be better at communicating. It is interesting how people are willing to tolerate this form of discrimination.
It is not that I suck at communicating; it is the fact that he thinks I should look for a native speaker so I can express myself that is disgusting. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on.
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.03.11 01:42:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Block Ukx
Imagine the following situation.
Two people apply to the same job. One is a native speaker and the other one is not.
If the company hires the native speaker under the assumption that ônative speakers are better at communicatingö instead of based on their ability to write, it would be considered racism.
RawÆs comment that I should find a native speaker so I can better communicate is nothing more than a form of discrimination. He is assuming that a native speaker will be better at communicating. It is interesting how people are willing to tolerate this form of discrimination.
It is not that I suck at communicating; it is the fact that he thinks I should look for a native speaker so I can express myself that is disgusting. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on.
No one here is your employer.
Also, you are avoiding all the relevant questions.
Why do you need ISK for this? Why can you not just use numbers to test out the tools?
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Poison
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.03.11 01:43:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Originally by: Block Ukx
Imagine the following situation.
Two people apply to the same job. One is a native speaker and the other one is not.
If the company hires the native speaker under the assumption that ônative speakers are better at communicatingö instead of based on their ability to write, it would be considered racism.
RawÆs comment that I should find a native speaker so I can better communicate is nothing more than a form of discrimination. He is assuming that a native speaker will be better at communicating. It is interesting how people are willing to tolerate this form of discrimination.
It is not that I suck at communicating; it is the fact that he thinks I should look for a native speaker so I can express myself that is disgusting. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on.
No one here is your employer.
Also, you are avoiding all the relevant questions.
Why do you need ISK for this? Why can you not just use numbers to test out the tools?
Your not going to invest so dont worry about it.
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Companion Qube
Minmatar
Electron Conservation Inc
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Posted - 2011.03.11 01:53:00 -
[111]
How ****ing dare anyone out there make fun of Block after all he has been through.!
He got trolled by Kalrand, then got trolled by Liberty Eternal, then got trolled by... Hell, it'd be faster to list people who HAVEN'T recently trolled him. All you people care about isà.. **** poasting and making money off of him.
HEÆS A HUMAN! What you donÆt realize is that Block is making you all this money and all you do is write a bunch of crap about him.
He hasnÆt asked for money in MD in years. His bond offering is just there to give you people a gift and all you people want is MORE! MORE-MORE, MORE: MORE!.
LEAVE HIM ALONE! You are lucky he even posted a bond for you BASTARDS!
LEAVE BLOCK ALONE!à..Please.
You all talk about professionalism and say if Block was a professional he wouldÆve pulled it off no matter what.
Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash someone who is going through a hard time.
Leave Block Alone Pleaseà. !
Leave Block alone!àright now!à.I mean it.!
Anyone that has a problem with him you deal with me, because his posting is not well right now.
LEAVE HIM ALONE!
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.03.11 01:53:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Poison
Your not going to invest
Technically, neither are you
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
T2 Technologies Unlimited
SRS.
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Posted - 2011.03.11 01:55:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Companion Qube
How ****ing dare anyone out there make fun of Block after all he has been through.!
He got trolled by Kalrand, then got trolled by Liberty Eternal, then got trolled by... Hell, it'd be faster to list people who HAVEN'T recently trolled him. All you people care about isà.. **** poasting and making money off of him.
HEÆS A HUMAN! What you donÆt realize is that Block is making you all this money and all you do is write a bunch of crap about him.
He hasnÆt asked for money in MD in years. His bond offering is just there to give you people a gift and all you people want is MORE! MORE-MORE, MORE: MORE!.
LEAVE HIM ALONE! You are lucky he even posted a bond for you BASTARDS!
LEAVE BLOCK ALONE!à..Please.
You all talk about professionalism and say if Block was a professional he wouldÆve pulled it off no matter what.
Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash someone who is going through a hard time.
Leave Block Alone Pleaseà. !
Leave Block alone!àright now!à.I mean it.!
Anyone that has a problem with him you deal with me, because his posting is not well right now.
LEAVE HIM ALONE!
Calm down Chris Crocker
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Khanid Voltar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2011.03.11 01:55:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Block Ukx
It is not that I suck at communicating; it is the fact that he thinks I should look for a native speaker so I can express myself that is disgusting. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on.
I am not reiterating other peoples opinion, I am stating my own. Therefore you cannot tell me that I dont think that you suck at communicating, because you are not me. You may disagree, but I would say you are in the (non-ethnic) minority.
Raw was suggesting that some of the miscommunication problems that are rife in your threads could be resolved by you consulting with a native english speaker first.
Take this abortion of a thread for instance. Nobody really had a clue what it was about for quite some time. Was that the fault of the people asking the questions? Was it their fault for perhaps not asking the RIGHT questions? Or was it the fault of the OP for not being clear enough in the first place?
Stop getting so butthurt by the trolls. You have been here long enough to know there is no arguing with some of them. But Raw is not and has never been a troll.
As I said to Kalrand (re: his personal vendetta against you) show some professionalism!!
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.03.11 01:55:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Companion Qube
How ****ing dare anyone out there make fun of Block after all he has been through.!
He got trolled by Kalrand, then got trolled by Liberty Eternal, then got trolled by... Hell, it'd be faster to list people who HAVEN'T recently trolled him. All you people care about isà.. **** poasting and making money off of him.
HEÆS A HUMAN! What you donÆt realize is that Block is making you all this money and all you do is write a bunch of crap about him.
He hasnÆt asked for money in MD in years. His bond offering is just there to give you people a gift and all you people want is MORE! MORE-MORE, MORE: MORE!.
LEAVE HIM ALONE! You are lucky he even posted a bond for you BASTARDS!
LEAVE BLOCK ALONE!à..Please.
You all talk about professionalism and say if Block was a professional he wouldÆve pulled it off no matter what.
Speaking of professionalism, when is it professional to publicly bash someone who is going through a hard time.
Leave Block Alone Pleaseà. !
Leave Block alone!àright now!à.I mean it.!
Anyone that has a problem with him you deal with me, because his posting is not well right now.
LEAVE HIM ALONE!
Don't cry my friend, don't cry. I know how you feel.
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Misty McGinnity
Mystify Trading Company
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Posted - 2011.03.11 01:58:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Block Ukx
It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on. im a butthurt nerd running a scam.
no it certainly doesn't
this will be dealt with!!11!
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Poison
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.03.11 02:00:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Liberty Eternal
Originally by: Poison
Your not going to invest
Technically, neither are you
Incorrect as usual
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.03.11 02:10:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Khanid Voltar
Raw was suggesting that some of the miscommunication problems that are rife in your threads could be resolved by you consulting with a native english speaker first.
Could you imagine ccp saying, hey this forum is in English, so all non-native English speakers please consult with a native English-speaker so we avoid miscommunications.
OR,
Please find a native English-speaker so we can understand your petition.
OR,
Non-native English speakers applying to the CSM please consult with a native English-speaker so we avoid miscommunications.
Do you really think that a non-native English speaker will feel welcome in a forum where people told them to consult with a native English speaker so they can be understood?
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Khanid Voltar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2011.03.11 02:21:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Block Ukx
Originally by: Khanid Voltar
Raw was suggesting that some of the miscommunication problems that are rife in your threads could be resolved by you consulting with a native english speaker first.
Could you imagine ccp saying, hey this forum is in English, so all non-native English speakers please consult with a native English-speaker so we avoid miscommunications.
OR,
Please find a native English-speaker so we can understand your petition.
OR,
Non-native English speakers applying to the CSM please consult with a native English-speaker so we avoid miscommunications.
Do you really think that a non-native English speaker will feel welcome in a forum where people told them to consult with a native English speaker so they can be understood?
I was setting myself up for a big reply, but frankly its is like talking to a brick wall.
Fine report Raw, perhaps even me for agreeing with him - because I guarantee you I agree with him 100% - you suck at effective communication.
But don't whine when all you get are the trolls on your threads because the non trolls just cant be bothered any more.
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Cheque Please
Hot Like Mexico
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Posted - 2011.03.11 03:12:00 -
[120]
Block, no one here knew you were a non-native English speaker before you brought it up yourself. 
That means the concerns Raw has been raising have nothing to do with "discrimination" or "racism" but rather, you know... your 10b bond. Which is why we post on the MD Forums and not Stormfront. To discuss bonds.
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