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Hoya en Marland	Posted - 2011.03.18 09:09:00 - [61] Originally by: Alpheias Be a good boy and go to your room, and let the grownups talk instead. We can listen to your childish arguments about methane and cows later. So you are considering yourself grownup only because you are able to repeat the words of nuclear lobby ******s like a parrot? Gosh, it's so easy to play adult these days...
Julemand	Posted - 2011.03.18 09:18:00 - [62] Originally by: Hoya en Marland Originally by: Alpheias Be a good boy and go to your room, and let the grownups talk instead. We can listen to your childish arguments about methane and cows later. So you are considering yourself grownup only because you are able to repeat the words of nuclear lobby ******s like a parrot? Gosh, it's so easy to play adult these days... Have a question, which power type do you rather have, coal or nuclear? That is the two options we have for base power generation currently (that is viable on a large scale) (FYI http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev26-34/text/colmain.html)
Hoya en Marland	Posted - 2011.03.18 09:44:00 - [63] Originally by: Julemand Have a question, which power type do you rather have, coal or nuclear? I'd rather get rid of both asap. There is so many other options and unexplored possibilities that could provide enough energy (alone or combined) pushed aside for too long because of his royal majesty Quick Profit. There goes fusion as well - if only a portion of vast resources and money spent by powerful nuclear lobby and militaristic governments has been directed into the research of fusion reactors instead, we would already have them by now.
Alpheias Euphoria Released	Posted - 2011.03.18 09:51:00 - [64] Originally by: Hoya en Marland Originally by: Alpheias Be a good boy and go to your room, and let the grownups talk instead. We can listen to your childish arguments about methane and cows later. So you are considering yourself grownup only because you are able to repeat the words of nuclear lobby ******s like a parrot? Gosh, it's so easy to play adult these days... lolwut? You wanna attempt making sense or is that too much to ask of someone obviously not an adult or do I need torture (google dental torture for the mental image) you for a simple answer? ♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.03.18 09:53:00 - [65] Originally by: Hoya en Marland Originally by: Julemand Have a question, which power type do you rather have, coal or nuclear? I'd rather get rid of both asap. There is so many other options and unexplored possibilities that could provide enough energy (alone or combined) pushed aside for too long because of his royal majesty Quick Profit. There goes fusion as well - if only a portion of vast resources and money spent by powerful nuclear lobby and militaristic governments has been directed into the research of fusion reactors instead, we would already have them by now. and it'd be totally awesome if we did have fusion i'm sure, but we don't, and either we have nuclear for baseline power generation, or we have fossil fuels... _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like.
Alpheias Euphoria Released	Posted - 2011.03.18 09:57:00 - [66] Edited by: Alpheias on 18/03/2011 09:58:15 Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Originally by: Hoya en Marland Originally by: Julemand Have a question, which power type do you rather have, coal or nuclear? I'd rather get rid of both asap. There is so many other options and unexplored possibilities that could provide enough energy (alone or combined) pushed aside for too long because of his royal majesty Quick Profit. There goes fusion as well - if only a portion of vast resources and money spent by powerful nuclear lobby and militaristic governments has been directed into the research of fusion reactors instead, we would already have them by now. and it'd be totally awesome if we did have fusion i'm sure, but we don't, and either we have nuclear for baseline power generation, or we have fossil fuels... Well... we have a.. several surplus of human resources that remains untapped, unnecessarily so. edit: a more up to date perspective on numbers. ♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/
Julemand	Posted - 2011.03.18 10:00:00 - [67] Edited by: Julemand on 18/03/2011 10:00:55 Originally by: Hoya en Marland Originally by: Julemand Have a question, which power type do you rather have, coal or nuclear? I'd rather get rid of both asap. There is so many other options and unexplored possibilities that could provide enough energy (alone or combined) pushed aside for too long because of his royal majesty Quick Profit. There goes fusion as well - if only a portion of vast resources and money spent by powerful nuclear lobby and militaristic governments has been directed into the research of fusion reactors instead, we would already have them by now. Sure if we some magic energy (not saying that fusion is magic, but currently it's so far ahead in the future) sources that do not pollute or anything I choose that one to....
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.03.18 10:02:00 - [68] Originally by: Alpheias Edited by: Alpheias on 18/03/2011 09:58:15 Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Originally by: Hoya en Marland Originally by: Julemand Have a question, which power type do you rather have, coal or nuclear? I'd rather get rid of both asap. There is so many other options and unexplored possibilities that could provide enough energy (alone or combined) pushed aside for too long because of his royal majesty Quick Profit. There goes fusion as well - if only a portion of vast resources and money spent by powerful nuclear lobby and militaristic governments has been directed into the research of fusion reactors instead, we would already have them by now. and it'd be totally awesome if we did have fusion i'm sure, but we don't, and either we have nuclear for baseline power generation, or we have fossil fuels... Well... we have a.. several surplus of human resources that remains untapped, unnecessarily so. edit: a more up to date perspective on numbers. we'll just pay all the poor people a pittance wage to generate power on exercise bicycles! _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like.
Alpheias Euphoria Released	Posted - 2011.03.18 10:05:00 - [69] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Originally by: Alpheias Edited by: Alpheias on 18/03/2011 09:58:15 Originally by: Chaos Incarnate and it'd be totally awesome if we did have fusion i'm sure, but we don't, and either we have nuclear for baseline power generation, or we have fossil fuels... Well... we have a.. several surplus of human resources that remains untapped, unnecessarily so. edit: a more up to date perspective on numbers. we'll just pay all the poor people a pittance wage to generate power on exercise bicycles! or... hamster wheels! ♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.03.18 10:11:00 - [70] Originally by: Alpheias Originally by: Chaos Incarnate we'll just pay all the poor people a pittance wage to generate power on exercise bicycles! or... hamster wheels! They're probably cheaper than bicycles! plus, it'd be pretty funny to watch people run too fast and spin around the hamster wheel... _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like.
Thuranni Eldjotnar	Posted - 2011.03.18 19:32:00 - [71] Edited by: Thuranni on 18/03/2011 19:32:09 Originally by: ivar R'dhak Edited by: ivar R''dhak on 17/03/2011 22:59:08 Originally by: Thuranni I hate this species sometimes. Actually I don¦t, even when there¦s specimen like yourself giving such a bloody great reason. That¦s why I don¦t subscribe to the great idea of building devices which are barely more advanced than oversized pressure cooker steam engines. Work with INCREDIBLY lethal power sources that can render VERY big parts of the human living space (quasi)permanently uninhabitable at worst, and are dangerously GENOME ALTERING AT BEST. Whose end products are barely less lethal, pose a mutagen and PLANET STERILIZING danger for millions of years and have NO safe disposable method available. WORLDeffinWIDE. If you all love the oh so advanced "nucular" technology so much, why don¦t you move to your nearest nuclear reactor and start hugging your favorite containment vessels. They have such cool glowing pools around there, I bet you could read a book in its glow. But that¦s the problem with people believing in all types of things. Like cow farts, breathing out and similar things can alter the climate, will kill the planet and therefore has to be taxed to save everybody. You types tend to believe in everything as long as it¦s written in an official looking book or told by other respectable media sources. Tl;dr: Pity there aren¦t courses for common sense. You are so ignorant it hurts. I think reading this post actually gave me cancer. I think that quite possibly not a single letter in your post is correct.
Rainus Max Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.03.18 22:26:00 - [72] Originally by: ivar R'dhak Originally by: Rainus Max TL:DR - Having a negative IQ is rare but I think you're the first person I've ever met with one. Coming from the likes of you I take this as a glowing compliment. To sum up all your long winded and arrogant posts: Nuclear energy is green because it only gives children cancer but doesn¦t harm nature with the ebil CO2. It is advanced because it¦s simple. Righto, got it. PPS, if a cow emits methane burbs then it has methane farts too, you masterful college graduate. The thyroid cancers in children around Chernobyl was a terrible thing but you fail to understand it wasn't just the fact the radioactive material was emitted. The Soviets tried to hide the accident from the western world, things like evacuations would highlight something had gone wrong meaning those children were fed or drank contaminated food and drink. IF at the first sign of a problem they had evacuated the local population the cancer problem wouldn't of been that significant, Japan has evacuated the locals well before things started going badly so human contamination is going to be extremely minimal. I agree that nuclear has its problems, that being said I would rather run the risk of a reactor emitting some mildly radioactive crap every now and again than watching as the millions (if not the odd billion) flee their homes or are killed as we change the climate and raise the sea levels. I trust science and if you don't want to that's fine but remember EVERY man-made item around you from the game you play down to the socks you wear have been created in some way by science and you take things like that for granted. Oh and I didn't say a cow doesn't fart, I said its their burps that cause the problem.
Zyck Imminent Ruin Dirt Nap Squad.	Posted - 2011.03.18 23:01:00 - [73] I too am scared ****less of nuclear power because stuff can happen sometimes maybe. Personally, its the hydroelectric power that needs dismantling! What if there's a 9.0 earthquake and a dam is detroyed? Tens of thousands could be killed!
M'ktakh	Posted - 2011.03.18 23:09:00 - [74] Thuranni, I, as a nuclear energy student and part-time worker have to point out that that nice blueish glow comes from Cherenkov radiation, not bulbs.
Kinuko	Posted - 2011.03.18 23:36:00 - [75] Edited by: Kinuko on 18/03/2011 23:37:40 Edited by: Kinuko on 18/03/2011 23:37:15 Damn educate yourselves people, 100% renewable energy is possible without nuclear. Sure it will cost you money but this is how humanity works. Either use cheap nuclear energy now and leave waste to next generations without the benefits of cheap energy, or pay for R&D of renewable energy generators now so that next generation can use safe, clean, and cheap electricity. There are solution for intermittent nature of renewables ---> pump hydro storage, flow charge batteries, international grids, solar molten salt towers etc. It is unbeliable how strong nuclear lobby become recent years.
Zyck Imminent Ruin Dirt Nap Squad.	Posted - 2011.03.18 23:50:00 - [76] Originally by: Kinuko Edited by: Kinuko on 18/03/2011 23:37:40 Edited by: Kinuko on 18/03/2011 23:37:15 Damn educate yourselves people, 100% renewable energy is possible without nuclear. Sure it will cost you money but this is how humanity works. Either use cheap nuclear energy now and leave waste to next generations without the benefits of cheap energy, or pay for R&D of renewable energy generators now so that next generation can use safe, clean, and cheap electricity. There are solution for intermittent nature of renewables ---> pump hydro storage, flow charge batteries, international grids, solar molten salt towers etc. It is unbeliable how strong nuclear lobby become recent years. Yes, it's nuclear power that is destroying the environment. It's a shame we have to choose because it's impossible to use nuclear power and fund research into other sources at the same time. OH CRUEL WORLD WHY MUST EVERYTHING BE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.03.19 00:24:00 - [77] Edited by: Akita T on 19/03/2011 00:25:49 Originally by: Kinuko Damn educate yourselves people, 100% renewable energy is possible without nuclear. Sure it will cost you money but this is how humanity works. Either use cheap nuclear energy now and leave waste to next generations without the benefits of cheap energy, or pay for R&D of renewable energy generators now so that next generation can use safe, clean, and cheap electricity.[...] Resources exist to be consumed. And consumed they will be, if not by this generation then by some future. By what right does this forgotten future seek to deny us our birthright? None I say! Let us take what is ours, chew and eat our fill. -- CEO Nwabudike Morgan - "The Ethics of Greed" And when at last it is time for the transition from megacorporation to planetary government, from entrepreneur to emperor, it is then that the true genius of our strategy shall become apparent, for energy is the lifeblood of this society and when the chips are down he who controls the energy supply controls Planet. In former times the energy monopoly was called "The Power Company"; we intend to give this name an entirely new meaning. -- CEO Nwabudike Morgan - "The Centauri Monopoly" _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Rainus Max Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.03.19 00:34:00 - [78] Originally by: Kinuko Edited by: Kinuko on 18/03/2011 23:37:40 Edited by: Kinuko on 18/03/2011 23:37:15 Damn educate yourselves people, 100% renewable energy is possible without nuclear. Sure it will cost you money but this is how humanity works. Either use cheap nuclear energy now and leave waste to next generations without the benefits of cheap energy, or pay for R&D of renewable energy generators now so that next generation can use safe, clean, and cheap electricity. There are solution for intermittent nature of renewables ---> pump hydro storage, flow charge batteries, international grids, solar molten salt towers etc. It is unbeliable how strong nuclear lobby become recent years. Do you have any idea how much land you have to strip clean or flood to use renewable generators? The area used versus power generated for most renewable is awful. The problem of intermittent generation cant just be solved by pumping the water back up a hill, you still need electricity to do it. Nuclear power isn't the devil everyone makes it out and the reason the lobby has picked up recently is because we are rapidly running out of fossil fuels, renewable ain't in a position to take over and fusion is decades away. If you want electricity then you are going to have to accept our future is probably going to rely on nuclear power for a while.
Anna Nas	Posted - 2011.03.19 02:12:00 - [79] Edited by: Anna Nas on 19/03/2011 02:12:55 Originally by: Thuranni Depleted Uranium is used as ballast in airplanes. It's used for ammunition (hardly a noble purpose, but if it was so INCREDIBLY DEADLY like you claim, soldiers would be reduced to green glowing husks just from handling their weapons). I'm no expert, but it seems that in solid form the depleted uranium isn't that bad. But when shells made out of it strike a target, a portion of it vaporizes and becomes airborne. These tiny particles can then be inhaled and that's when they do become very dangerous indeed and can lead to all kinds of cancer or birth defects. The western countries should be ashamed for all the DU ammo we have used in for instance Iraq.
Darteis Elosia Gallente PHOENIX 2ND C.A.G. DEM0N HUNTERS	Posted - 2011.03.19 04:20:00 - [80] How will this affect me? Will they not be able to power their amazing funktion one and d&B Audiotechnics PA systems at the clubs now? :( I need my german techno oontz oontz!
Hoya en Marland	Posted - 2011.03.19 09:43:00 - [81] I do hope that some of you people are getting paid for all this ***ty pro-nuclear propaganda you are bringing here. Or that you earn your everyday's bread in nuclear industry - this would put at least some* sense into your words. But if you are not... then it's pretty sad actually. Term "brainwashed" comes to mind.
Alotta Baggage Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail	Posted - 2011.03.19 09:59:00 - [82] Originally by: Anna Nas Edited by: Anna Nas on 19/03/2011 02:12:55 Originally by: Thuranni Depleted Uranium is used as ballast in airplanes. It's used for ammunition (hardly a noble purpose, but if it was so INCREDIBLY DEADLY like you claim, soldiers would be reduced to green glowing husks just from handling their weapons). I'm no expert, but it seems that in solid form the depleted uranium isn't that bad. But when shells made out of it strike a target, a portion of it vaporizes and becomes airborne. These tiny particles can then be inhaled and that's when they do become very dangerous indeed and can lead to all kinds of cancer or birth defects. The western countries should be ashamed for all the DU ammo we have used in for instance Iraq. I'm proud to be a citizen of the only country in the world that uses depleted uranium shells Also if you're close enough to the impact to inhale the particles you have bigger problems Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
Thuranni Eldjotnar	Posted - 2011.03.19 12:26:00 - [83] Originally by: M'ktakh Thuranni, I, as a nuclear energy student and part-time worker have to point out that that nice blueish glow comes from Cherenkov radiation, not bulbs. I honestly had no idea. The more you know, I guess. That is pretty nifty, though. Originally by: Kinuko Edited by: Kinuko on 18/03/2011 23:37:40 Edited by: Kinuko on 18/03/2011 23:37:15 Damn educate yourselves people, 100% renewable energy is possible without nuclear. Sure it will cost you money but this is how humanity works. Either use cheap nuclear energy now and leave waste to next generations without the benefits of cheap energy, or pay for R&D of renewable energy generators now so that next generation can use safe, clean, and cheap electricity. There are solution for intermittent nature of renewables ---> pump hydro storage, flow charge batteries, international grids, solar molten salt towers etc. It is unbeliable how strong nuclear lobby become recent years. "Renewable energy" is a waste of time. In our lifetimes or the next generation's we will have functioning fusion power plants which will blow anything we currently have access to out of the water, with none of the harmful side effects of nuclear power. Nuclear power plants are the best interim stage to this. ****ing around with windmills and other "renewables" is useless and only serves to let "green" politicians promote themselves.
ivar R'dhak Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.19 13:14:00 - [84] Yep, pearls before the swine. But don¦t worry: Nucular is good for you. Watch TV dammit! Let the programming-box and big energy think for you. They¦re so much more competent at it. As indeed this thread so obviously shows. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Alpheias Euphoria Released	Posted - 2011.03.19 13:45:00 - [85] Originally by: ivar R'dhak Yep, pearls before the swine. Rather ironic how you came to use that term. Considering your usual inane rambling in most topics, if not all. A discussion, any discussion, is wasted on the likes of you. Originally by: ivar R'dhak Watch TV dammit! Let the programming-box and big energy think for you. They¦re so much more competent at it. As indeed this thread so obviously shows. Know what? I think I will. I much rather listen to people who is working in the nuclear power industry than someone that gets their news from conspiracy theorist-websites, ufo-websites and the children' BBC. ♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/
Alpheias Euphoria Released	Posted - 2011.03.19 13:49:00 - [86] Originally by: Hoya en Marland I do hope that some of you people are getting paid for all this ***ty pro-nuclear propaganda you are bringing here. Or that you earn your everyday's bread in nuclear industry - this would put at least some* sense into your words. But if you are not... then it's pretty sad actually. Term "brainwashed" comes to mind. I am not paid enough for this. Go hug a tree, hippie. ♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/
ivar R'dhak Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.19 13:51:00 - [87] Originally by: Alpheias Go hug a tree, hippie. Go juggle DU ammo, brainmaster. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.03.19 14:00:00 - [88] Originally by: Hoya en Marland I do hope that some of you people are getting paid for all this ***ty pro-nuclear propaganda you are bringing here. Or that you earn your everyday's bread in nuclear industry - this would put at least some* sense into your words. But if you are not... then it's pretty sad actually. Term "brainwashed" comes to mind. I like how in your post you made a substantive, fact-based argument against nuclear power and...oh wait, you just accused everyone who disagreed with you of being brainwashed or paid off. _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2011.03.19 14:06:00 - [89] Originally by: ivar R'dhak Originally by: Alpheias Go hug a tree, hippie. Go juggle DU ammo, brainmaster. That would actually be pretty impressive. Kinda like juggling chainsaws, but the chainsaws on are on fire and made of uranium _____________________ Look down. Back up. Where are you? You're on a forum, with the alt your alt could post like.
Alpheias Euphoria Released	Posted - 2011.03.19 14:10:00 - [90] Originally by: ivar R'dhak Originally by: Alpheias Go hug a tree, hippie. Go juggle DU ammo, brainmaster. Now, now, don't get upset for the role your parents gave you at birth, standing on a ball, juggling weak burns like this one. That, and dementia. ♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/

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