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Derth Ramir
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Posted - 2011.03.18 23:42:00 -
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Seriously I thought low sec was supposed to be smaller gang warfare not a fun zone for bored alliances to ***** to fight people in 0.0 and decide for a fun quick gank.
I don't know if this issue has been addressed but I had a revelation today. It was that supers are near invincible in low sec. You can't bubble... so you have to use a heavy dictor with a script. So i'm pretty sure supers can basically **** heavy dictors. So as if they weren't hard enough to kill is null its even harder in low sec. I thought low sec was supposed to be more entry level/small-medium gangs pvp Anyways I would like to hear your guys thoughts on this issue.
This thread will probably be shot down fairly quickly by all the elite super carrier 0.0 peeps that love chillin in low sec.
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Mitsune Konno
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Posted - 2011.03.19 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Derth Ramir Seriously I thought low sec was supposed to be smaller gang warfare not a fun zone for bored alliances to ***** to fight people in 0.0 and decide for a fun quick gank.
I don't know if this issue has been addressed but I had a revelation today. It was that supers are near invincible in low sec. You can't bubble... so you have to use a heavy dictor with a script. So i'm pretty sure supers can basically **** heavy dictors. So as if they weren't hard enough to kill is null its even harder in low sec. I thought low sec was supposed to be more entry level/small-medium gangs pvp Anyways I would like to hear your guys thoughts on this issue.
This thread will probably be shot down fairly quickly by all the elite super carrier 0.0 peeps that love chillin in low sec.
check the kb's. Low-sec supers don't last very long.
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Cloakers
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Posted - 2011.03.19 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mitsune Konno
Originally by: Derth Ramir Seriously I thought low sec was supposed to be smaller gang warfare not a fun zone for bored alliances to ***** to fight people in 0.0 and decide for a fun quick gank.
I don't know if this issue has been addressed but I had a revelation today. It was that supers are near invincible in low sec. You can't bubble... so you have to use a heavy dictor with a script. So i'm pretty sure supers can basically **** heavy dictors. So as if they weren't hard enough to kill is null its even harder in low sec. I thought low sec was supposed to be more entry level/small-medium gangs pvp Anyways I would like to hear your guys thoughts on this issue.
This thread will probably be shot down fairly quickly by all the elite super carrier 0.0 peeps that love chillin in low sec.
check the kb's. Low-sec supers don't last very long.
They dont last very long if you have 2 or 3 hictors plus your own supercarrier or at least 20 or so subcapitals. AKA as a blob vs the one super. Anything less and theyll smash your face in and go about their merry business.
Agree with OP, balance them properly so theyre not imbalanced or ban them from low sec (or better altogether from eve)
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Valari Nala Zena
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.03.19 14:37:00 -
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Actually, banning supers from lowsec doesn't sound so bad. Regular caps can stay though.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.03.19 16:40:00 -
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Depending on what CCP cooks up to restrict force-projection, supers may have to be allowed in lowsec for basic travel purposes.
Travel Option: They shouldn't be able to activate anything but low-slot modules while there. That means no cloak, set up towers if you want to move frequently - Risk/Reward.
Combat Option: The eWar immunity is jammed by Empire border defences thus making them very vulnerable to the ravenous bugblatter beasts of low.
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Ezekiel Sulastin
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.03.19 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Travel Option: They shouldn't be able to activate anything but low-slot modules while there. That means no cloak, set up towers if you want to move frequently - Risk/Reward.
Because Wyverns and Hels don't have enough going against them?
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DmitryEKT
Waterboard
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:27:00 -
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travel option: no drones can be launched and no remote effects (rr, dd, neuts, etc etc) in losec. basically you can move through and tank but thats it. seems fair enough, theres no real reason to be using supers in losec anyway
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin Because Wyverns and Hels don't have enough going against them?
Have to admit, I forgot they existed, never see anything but Aeons and Nyx's
Tank modules if you have to be literal about it, happy now?
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blazeyadeadhommie
Martyr's Vengence
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:02:00 -
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Hey QQ in hello kitty. if your in low sec or null sec you came to fight or at least know the risk. So if you can't take the heat GTFO and stop QQ'n about getting owned. I understand that the super carrier is OP but they will F something up for them soon enough. Until then just take it for what it is and play the game. Stop try'n to Nerf stuff you have no ability to use.
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Flex Nebura
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Derth Ramir Seriously I thought low sec was supposed to be smaller gang warfare not a fun zone for bored alliances to ***** to fight people in 0.0 and decide for a fun quick gank.
So you were wrong.. happends to the best of us.
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Aamrr
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Posted - 2011.03.19 22:55:00 -
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Unfortunately, it's very difficult to get around Eve using JUST nullsec systems, even with a jump drive. Supercapitals need access to lowsec, especially because of their reduced jump range.
That said, titans are already nerfed in lowsec: They can't use their doomsdays. I propose removing the ability to deploy fighter bombers in lowsec, so that supercarriers have a corresponding weakness. If someone wanted to remove their point immunity in lowsec, too, I wouldn't be against the change.
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Pantorus Necraliss
Minmatar Giza'Msafara
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Posted - 2011.03.21 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: Aamrr Unfortunately, it's very difficult to get around Eve using JUST nullsec systems, even with a jump drive. Supercapitals need access to lowsec, especially because of their reduced jump range.
That said, titans are already nerfed in lowsec: They can't use their doomsdays. I propose removing the ability to deploy fighter bombers in lowsec, so that supercarriers have a corresponding weakness. If someone wanted to remove their point immunity in lowsec, too, I wouldn't be against the change.
+1 - Giza'Msafara recrute, entrez dans une corporation au background solide. |
GizzyBoy
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Posted - 2011.03.21 12:48:00 -
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yeah maybe stop fighter bombers in low, but i thought they already got nerfed against subcaps anyways?
sadly force projection means, people would rather have another super on there side than another subcap.
low sec has other issues that need fixing, but low sec is pretty much how the current residents have made it.
Your never going to stop bored groups blobing then going on rampages just becuase you more interested in smaller gangs.
If you want to do smaller gangs or 5-15 id suggest wh's. no sc's to worry about and with a bit of recon you can slowly work out worthy targets.
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Echo Byteme
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Posted - 2011.03.21 13:50:00 -
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Edited by: Echo Byteme on 21/03/2011 13:53:22 crocodile tears.. got your ship popped by a super carrier in lowsec.. awhhh i am sorry. I vote for capitals in high sec!
Oh wait why not nerf everything else while you are at it.. IBIS only in highsec!
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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.03.21 14:22:00 -
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Remove EW immunity from SC's, problem solved. I'd have many SC kills in low sec if only I could point them back. Sure you can bring a few HIC's, but HIC's cannot be RR'd while they point something and they are too easy to jam with the ECM burst. You can give them +10 warp core strength if you want, but ffs allow the other 99% of ships in eve to point them. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig. |
Xhondo Dhoru
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Posted - 2011.03.21 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: Xhondo Dhoru on 21/03/2011 14:36:41 This would only boost station humpery. If anything that needs a nerf.
Originally by: Derth Ramir Seriously I thought low sec was supposed to be smaller gang warfare not a fun zone for bored alliances to ***** to fight people in 0.0 and decide for a fun quick gank.
Your problem is nullsec alliances abusing their force projection, not lowsec supers. There are more than a few lowsec corps who can field a decent amount of supercarriers. The issue is more so that they can't compete with the 100+ supercap blobs formed by dozen-region-wide nullsec coalitions.
Nerf the superblobs and do something about lowsec station humpery THEN we can talk about supers in lowsec.
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Zwyggy Zythum
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Posted - 2011.03.21 15:07:00 -
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Low-sec players are always complaining that there isn't enough PvP.
Then when some comes around. They complain that there is too much.
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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.03.21 16:40:00 -
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Except that isn't the complaint at all. Nice troll attempt though. Very subtle. Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig. |
Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.03.21 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona They dont last very long if you have 20 or 30 hictors plus your own supercarrier or at least 20 or so subcapitals.
FTFY. You have to be a supernublet SC pilot to get tackled by anything less than 17 hics in low sec. (go back to your hulk)
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos Word of Chaos Undivided
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Posted - 2011.03.21 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Val''Dore on 21/03/2011 20:17:51 Wormhole space is looking more and more attractive the more and more time I spend in low sec. The biggest thing you will find in W-space is a Nidhoggur in someone's w-home system.
~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~
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Marija Vanszar
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.03.21 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Val'Dore Edited by: Val''Dore on 21/03/2011 20:17:51 Wormhole space is looking more and more attractive the more and more time I spend in low sec. The biggest thing you will find in W-space is a Nidhoggur in someone's w-home system.
which is only used for closing whs or capital escalations :-)
taliban gang tactics ftw.
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos Word of Chaos Undivided
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Posted - 2011.03.21 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Marija Vanszar
Originally by: Val'Dore Edited by: Val''Dore on 21/03/2011 20:17:51 Wormhole space is looking more and more attractive the more and more time I spend in low sec. The biggest thing you will find in W-space is a Nidhoggur in someone's w-home system.
which is only used for closing whs or capital escalations :-)
taliban gang tactics ftw.
And POS Repping, but yeah. You won't see them much regardless, unless you are cloak stalking the corp noting their habits.
~No matter what happens, somebody will find a way to take it too seriously.~
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Cloakers
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Posted - 2011.03.22 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sig Sour PQPQ. Im a fail poster (goin back to my hulk)
have fun with that.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.03.22 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Derth Ramir Seriously I thought low sec was supposed to be smaller gang warfare
no, dont think so. Lowsec is rather for ******s, pussies and wannabe-evil-piwates, who are afraid of 0.0.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.03.22 13:08:00 -
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Only if you define fear as not wanting to spend 75% of ones fighting time looking at an Eve themed wallpaper and whining about the injustice of not having 120fps when blobbing like a moron ..
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.03.22 13:46:00 -
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who is the moron?? I would say, one, who doesnt realize that there is a lot of small/med scale pvp in 0.0, as long as you dont start sovgames...
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Goose99
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Posted - 2011.03.22 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Caldera who is the moron?? I would say, one, who doesnt realize that there is a lot of small/med scale pvp in 0.0, as long as you dont start sovgames...
Small scale on one side, perhaps. Like camping a gate.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.03.22 15:26:00 -
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camping a gate is not specific to 0.0. In lowsecs there are plenty of gatecamps also. The only difference is bubbles make them somewhat more effective (as some other pvp aspects of eve).
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.03.22 15:38:00 -
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If you can't build it in low sec, you shouldn't be able to field it in low sec. +1
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blazeyadeadhommie
Martyr's Vengence
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Posted - 2011.03.22 17:13:00 -
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really people if you can't fly one you should have no say in how they can or can't be flown. If you are mad because they hotdropped you Get out of low sec and do your missions and stop QQ'n in the forums how unfair it is that a person has the isk to buy it and the balls to use it does with his time. Seriously stop. One day you to may get a chance to fly a super and you may regret ever saying these ideas out loud. Supers will soon enough get the nerf they need in the places they need it but low sec is not that place and certainly not the E-WAR immunity. Low sec is suppose to be for pirates and players to scared to go to null sec. Null sec is where you find small gangs getting kills and medium sized gangs terrorizing locals. Blob warfare is a sov. mechanic now and you need huge fleets to take systems. They don't take 500 man fleets to roam. they take them to pos's and sov shoots. So if you don't know whats going on for a fact don't comment.
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