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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 19:10:00 -
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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 21:08:00 -
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          La Nariz wrote:Sabrina Solette wrote: The change was a needed one, as suicide ganking was just easy isk.
 
  Citation required, npc alt.  
 
 CCP Ytterbium wrote:Resilience: another point is to give some of them proper EHP not to be one-shot by anything that even remotely sneezes on them.  
  From this devblog.
 
 CCP Soundwave wrote:Suicide ganking wasn't designed to be profitable, it's meant to be an option that let's you punish someone else at your expense. The money you paid for a ship to gank with compared to the money lost by your target was completely off and this change should bring that to a better spot.  
  From this thread.
  Need more citations from the developers?
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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 21:11:00 -
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          James Amril-Kesh wrote: The developers happen to be wrong, and it wouldn't be the first time.
  
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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 21:15:00 -
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          MIrple wrote:That quote taken from Soundwave has been taken way out of context. If this is the case then freighters never should die unless you bring more to the fight then the ammont of isk they are hauling. 10 bill mission runners shoudn't also die because of the cost of the ship. You CAN NOT one more time CAN NOT use the arguement of isk is tank. Pleas stop doing this.   
  You can infer that the developers believe it was too easy for the mining barges and exhumers to be suicide ganked. 
  They said it. 
  They put in the changes to the ships.
  People bitching about it are beating a dead horse.
  Get over it.
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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 21:24:00 -
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          James Amril-Kesh wrote: I believe it's too easy for my Tengu fit for Guristas to be ganked.
 
  
  CCP doesn't, otherwise you would have posts from them on the subject and there would be a pending change going in.
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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 21:25:00 -
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          Methesda wrote:Jypsie wrote:
  They said it. 
  They put in the changes to the .... NEX (EDIT)
  People bitching about it are beating a dead horse.
  Get over it.
 
  Clearly not beating a dead horse. You seem to believe that that the issue we're discussing is whether the exhumer buff was correct or not. That's not what we're discussing. The debate here is about the wider implication of simplification of Eve.  
  I was responding to La Nariz who was responding to a post about exhumer ganking.
  I care eff all about the rest of the thread.
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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 21:27:00 -
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          James Amril-Kesh wrote:Jypsie wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: I believe it's too easy for my Tengu fit for Guristas to be ganked.
 
  CCP doesn't, otherwise you would have posts from them on the subject and there would be a pending change going in.  GTFO. I'm not going to quit whining until they do, because I know that if I complain enough they will.  
  But didn't you hear? Eve is going all carebear.
  You GTFO
 
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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 21:31:00 -
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          La Nariz wrote:Jypsie wrote: I was responding to La Nariz who was responding to a post about exhumer ganking.
  I care eff all about the rest of the thread.
 
  Still waiting for those numbers npc alt.  
  Hit up CCP, they obviously have access to them, and they are the ones that stated that exhumers were too easy to gank.
  I never said it.
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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 21:34:00 -
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          Methesda wrote:Jypsie wrote: I care eff all about the rest of the thread.
 
  You are lying. Everyone can see that, because you are IN this thread, and you have read more than the original post - if you don't care, why do that? I value your opinion, but you don't need to be a toe-rag about it.  
  Lying is a bit strong, more of a slight shrugging intrest. I was skimming when I saw La Nariz post something about needing citations about the exhumer suicide ganking, and remembered reading a few things that CCP Developers posted.
  Since then, its just following up with responses.
 
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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 21:37:00 -
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          La Nariz wrote:
  You're the one trying to prove the point the onus is on you.
  
  Actually not. For all the mental ************ going on in this thread its only what the developers say that matters.
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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 21:51:00 -
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          La Nariz wrote:Jypsie wrote:La Nariz wrote:
  You're the one trying to prove the point the onus is on you.
  Actually not. For all the mental ************ going on in this thread its only what the developers say that matters.  You're kidding right? We've generated more free advertising and draw for this game than CCP's entire marketing budget. Burn Jita, the Great War, space heists, hell we're even mentioned in an EVE article by the nytimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html?_r=1&pagewanted=allThe players are what makes the content for this game, the devs just give us the tools to do it. What the developers say pales in comparison to the content created by the players.  
  Did a great job stopping that mining barge buff from going through, didn't ya?
  Short of the Incarna/Nex/Greed Riots, all the players really do is show the developers their actions and provide the data that they use to make the real decisions.
 
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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 21:58:00 -
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          La Nariz wrote:
  This wouldn't be the first time CCP screwed up now would it?
  
  Wouldn't be the first time some self important dips shiptoasted up GD thinking their ideas were the greatest thing in the game.
  I'll even include myself in this one   | 
      
      
      
          
          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 22:15:00 -
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          La Nariz wrote:Jypsie wrote:La Nariz wrote:
  This wouldn't be the first time CCP screwed up now would it?
  Wouldn't be the first time some self important dips shiptoasted up GD thinking their ideas were the greatest thing in the game. I'll even include myself in this one    Yeah cause valuing risk:reward, attempting to avoid the trammelization of EVE and insulting moronic NPC alts are terrible ideas   .  
  Pity when CCP ran the numbers they decided against your favored risk:reward state of the mining profession.  
  I go back to, you're irrelevant , all that matters is what CCP decides.
 
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          Jypsie 
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        Posted - 2012.08.28 22:27:00 -
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          La Nariz wrote:Since you have inside information on what CCP does you can clearly go and get all those statistics that would be required to prove your point   . You keep spewing the same drivel without providing any proof, your posts are a great example of why npc alts should be unable to post.  
  We're running in circles here, man. I don't have to prove anything, as I am not attempting to make any point; I simply cited what CCP has said, and what changes CCP has implemented.
  *shrug*
  You say CCP was wrong, they disagree.
  Write your effing Senator.
 
 
 
 
 
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