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Metal Dude Gallente Destructive Influence Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.03.21 03:25:00 - [61] Instead of demanding the impossible, why donÆt you ask for CCP to fix the game to discourage blobbing and outrages NAP fests? Why not ask for stacking penalty on standings or maybe increasing prices on the number of positive standings, based on how many characters are blue to each other? Maybe if you had to pay 100 million per every 1000 characters you were NAPed to per month, you would not have this problem of not being able to fight. You would have a problem of being owned by people that are better than you. But you really donÆt want that, do you? You just want to whine how unfair it is that you canÆt win with numbers. Right? The truth will set you free
Kramutti Gallente The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.03.21 05:20:00 - [62] ^^ Ex member of the now dead alliance that invented the blob hanging out with Tri(haha) talking about blobs. Next up, watch a Panda rolling down a hill!
Kossaw Gallente H A V O C Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.03.21 08:09:00 - [63] Ch***t. I cant believe I'm agreeing with PL and NCdot 2000 players = lag. Its your own fault. Live with it or find another play style.
Caldrion Dosto Gallente Excrutiating Dirge Merciless.	Posted - 2011.03.21 08:13:00 - [64] This is so funny. EVERYONE knows it will be lag from hell if you bring 1000 players on your side and the other side is forced to respond with same amount. 2000 players in a fleet fights ofc makes the game grind to a halt why are you surprised? Stop blueing 70% of the universe and enjoy a low lag environment with fun fights. There is a resaon why a lot of high sp people are not in the blobiest alliances anymore, the biggest reason is we all have done the 1000+ fights and it don¦t work and we are tired of the slideshows, and thus took action to find fun things to do without them. Also death to NC, death to titans.
Captain Thunk Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.21 08:53:00 - [65] First they brought 100 drakes, but they all died for no kills Then they brought 200 drakes and managed 2 kills before they all died Tacticians brain stormed and tried 300 drakes, losing them all for 7 kills After much scratching of heads they came back with 500 drakes which all exploded for 15 kills Then a guy no one had heard of came up with a brand new idea, 700 drakes. Which all died for 23 kills 7 days of pure planning paid dividends when they came up with the strategy of 800 drakes which managed to destroy 32 before they all died. So they pulled out all the stops and came in 1000 drakes, lagged themselves out and lost a bunch of supercaps. Strategists decided that the game must be broken.
Jack Paladin Caldari Solar Storm Sev3rance	Posted - 2011.03.21 09:29:00 - [66] The tears in this thread xD EVE is growing. As more carebears get tired of highsec they move down for 0.0 PVP. It is a natural progression that fleet fights in 0.0 will get bigger, especially if you have several alliances all working together. CCP's strategy of 'petition big fleet fights in advance' is a temporary 'solution' at best. It's time to evolve beyond that and really come up with a revolutionary system to allow EVE to continue to grow and offer the best possible gaming experience. Folks are gonna see the CTA's for o2o reinforcements. They are then gonna check alliance channel and see all the tears about lag. End resulst .... pilots ain't gonna join up. One would assume that they can reinforce more than 1 node at a time? So how about setting up a simple script that if a particular system has 500 pilots then auto reinforce. If said system drops below 300 after reinforce then bring out of reinforce and call in the fire department for cool down the servers. Afterall ... EVE is a sandbox and 90% of the time you can't 'plan' when a huge fight will happen. And also ... o2o has been under siege for many number of weeks. One would assume that the next few weeks will be the same. So how about just leaving the damn system reinforced until one of the masses has victory?
Tayllor04 Minmatar V0LTA VOLTA Corp	Posted - 2011.03.21 10:01:00 - [67] Originally by: Kramutti ^^ Ex member of the now dead alliance that invented the blob hanging out with Tri(haha) talking about blobs. Next up, watch a Panda rolling down a hill! BOB & Tri chose quality over quantity sir, before u guys decided to blob the she out of everyone.. remember the days where NC would bring 450+ to camp in Tri (h-p) or just for 100 man gangs.. and still die most of the time ^^ no matter how many time we disbanded u sir are a liar.. NC created this mess, u sir can go whine about it some more kk o7
OrDeR Caldari Muppet Factory Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.03.21 10:27:00 - [68] These threads pop up every 3 months. More things change more they stay the same...
JT Black Amarr WEPRA CORP WILD BOARS	Posted - 2011.03.21 10:48:00 - [69] Simple, First you sound pathetic with your request . Why don't you go and play WoW and heal yourself from a butt hurt pain ? I wonder why you dont ask some other things from CCP like ....? 1- Remove local 2- Bring back warp to 15km 3- Remove jump bridges 4- Remove Jump Freighters 5- Remove intel channels 6- Remove POS's 7- Remove High end Moons 8 - make all rats scramle Just a few things u know,of course u cant exist without those ? Now go diaf plz, thx . CCP more lag plz for him . JT
Levistus Junior Caldari Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2011.03.21 11:46:00 - [70] Originally by: Metal Dude Instead of demanding the impossible, why donÆt you ask for CCP to fix the game to discourage blobbing and outrages NAP fests? Why not ask for stacking penalty on standings or maybe increasing prices on the number of positive standings, based on how many characters are blue to each other? Maybe if you had to pay 100 million per every 1000 characters you were NAPed to per month, you would not have this problem of not being able to fight. You would have a problem of being owned by people that are better than you. But you really donÆt want that, do you? You just want to whine how unfair it is that you canÆt win with numbers. Right? Artificially limit number of blues is not a solution for two reasons: first of all it goes against the sandbox concept eve is built around and secondly because people will find other ways to have their coalitions despite in-game limitations. Instead CCP should focus on building a sov system that doesn't require an entity to bring the bigger blob in order to defend/take space. Something that would favor splitting your forces instead of piling them all on one grid.
Proclus Diadochu Caldari Retribution. Inc. R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.03.21 12:51:00 - [71] Originally by: fpshacker Hey guys why didn't you cry about this when you killed the Russian titans who never loaded grid in low sec? Eve was clearly broken then yet you didn't whine about it, neither did the Russians. It specifically states in the EULA that to petition or contact CCP about anything, said player must be able to speak coherent English. Russians type those cool yet non-English symbols, hence their dilemma. That's a fact I most certainly did not make up.
Zimi Vlasic Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2011.03.21 12:52:00 - [72] Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 21/03/2011 12:52:15 I find myself wondering what kind of morons continue to do the same thing over and over and somehow eventually expect a different result. Making up for a lack of talent by packing as many people as possible into a system is not CCP's fault. The game runs fine until you do that. So really, the logical answer is to stop doing that. Let's assume they make it so 2000 people can fit into a system without lag. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that you will then try to pack 4000 into a system, and then the whining will begin again. In closing, shut up. ------------------ Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Salvatore Pizanno Gallente United Kings R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.03.21 12:58:00 - [73] Pleast no make funt of Russian
WhiteSnake Amarr Exiled Gathering HELL4S	Posted - 2011.03.21 13:16:00 - [74] break up nap chains, bring hell back to eve, stop being so attached to moongold moons... one day you have to stop ruining this game with this nap-monster you have build
SmashTech Minmatar Sigillum Militum Xpisti Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.03.21 14:23:00 - [75] Originally by: Salvatore Pizanno Pleast no make funt of Russian HELLO MY NAME IS JUNIOR SVK TODAY WE ARE GOING TO DIE GLORIOUSLY IN A FIRE ON FIELD OF BATTLE GET IN DRAKE NOW VY ARE YOU DYINK NO SHUT UP CLEAR COMMS NO VY ARE YOU DYINK
Orkasm Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.03.21 15:06:00 - [76] Originally by: JT Black 5- Remove intel channels So you advocate the removal of chat channels? All of them? if people can talk to each other they can share information. This line here made everything you said irrelevant, try thinking before you post if you want people to take you seriously. Yes NC brings huge amounts to fights, cos if we dont you think the DRF will just bring an equal amount? Nah they'll pile everything they can into the system to stop us having a fight and achieve there goal. Something needs changing at the base of the game to either Limit power-block Sizes or limit the amount of players in systems. Hopefully something will come up at fanfest this weekend with some ideas / CCP being less terrible. TL;DR: yea the NC is bad for Blobbing, we ain't the only ones though.
Myz Toyou Minmatar APOCALYPSE LEGION	Posted - 2011.03.21 15:11:00 - [77] OP lost a Drake in O2O and is mad.
JT Black Amarr WEPRA CORP WILD BOARS	Posted - 2011.03.21 15:23:00 - [78] Originally by: Orkasm Originally by: JT Black 5- Remove intel channels So you advocate the removal of chat channels? All of them? if people can talk to each other they can share information. This line here made everything you said irrelevant, try thinking before you post if you want people to take you seriously. Yes NC brings huge amounts to fights, cos if we dont you think the DRF will just bring an equal amount? Nah they'll pile everything they can into the system to stop us having a fight and achieve there goal. Something needs changing at the base of the game to either Limit power-block Sizes or limit the amount of players in systems. Hopefully something will come up at fanfest this weekend with some ideas / CCP being less terrible. TL;DR: yea the NC is bad for Blobbing, we ain't the only ones though. remove in game chat feature ,yes im irrelevant,youre not safe ***got ,hide and learn to play.
Rex Mundus Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.21 15:52:00 - [79] Solution is obvious. Double the damage for Heavy Missiles. This way, the NC would only need half as many draeks.
Helios888 Caldari Mercenaries of Andosia Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.03.21 16:37:00 - [80] Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 21/03/2011 12:52:15 I find myself wondering what kind of morons continue to do the same thing over and over and somehow eventually expect a different result. Sums it all up nicely
xKillswitchx Caldari Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.03.21 16:43:00 - [81] I for one am not whining about the lag or complaining about the loss of some NC Titans. What I wanted to bring up to people is the fact that CCP has identified a problem that players have brought to their attention. CCP has put in place a process to handle and address that problem and people have agreed to use it. My issue is that even with all of this in place, CCP still is not able to handle the problem, in this case the node from crashing and people not loading grid. Rather than solve these problems, CCP has decided to give us more items and in game crap like walking in stations that still doesn't solve the basic problem of the game, systems loading grid and being able to handle large fleet fights. Alliances are going to have large fleet fights, CCP has done everything they can to get as many people living in null sec, this is something they wanted. Rather than making one more new thing like station walking, they should focus on fine tuning the existing problems rather than introducing new ones. Again, if the players of this game continue to write petitions about this, we will hopefully get them to solve this problem.
xKillswitchx Caldari Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.03.21 16:47:00 - [82] Originally by: Caldrion Dosto This is so funny. EVERYONE knows it will be lag from hell if you bring 1000 players on your side and the other side is forced to respond with same amount. 2000 players in a fleet fights ofc makes the game grind to a halt why are you surprised? Stop blueing 70% of the universe and enjoy a low lag environment with fun fights. There is a resaon why a lot of high sp people are not in the blobiest alliances anymore, the biggest reason is we all have done the 1000+ fights and it don¦t work and we are tired of the slideshows, and thus took action to find fun things to do without them. Also death to NC, death to titans. You know everyone keeps saying that NAPs are the problems in fleet fights. I can tell you this is not always the case. Most alliances have 1K+ members, ME and Rage alone have over 5K members. Those two alliances alone could could bring 2K people to a fleet fight. It's not the NAPs that are the problems, its the fact that CCP has not done enough to build their nodes to compensate for the increase in the number of pilots they pushed out into null sec.
Helios888 Caldari Mercenaries of Andosia Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.03.21 16:50:00 - [83] The hardware will never keep up with your coalitions astounding propensity for fahguttery.
Ace Frehley Minmatar Mercenaries of Andosia Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.03.21 17:21:00 - [84] Originally by: Orkasm Originally by: JT Black 5- Remove intel channels So you advocate the removal of chat channels? All of them? if people can talk to each other they can share information. This line here made everything you said irrelevant, try thinking before you post if you want people to take you seriously. Yes NC brings huge amounts to fights, cos if we dont you think the DRF will just bring an equal amount? Nah they'll pile everything they can into the system to stop us having a fight and achieve there goal. Something needs changing at the base of the game to either Limit power-block Sizes or limit the amount of players in systems. Hopefully something will come up at fanfest this weekend with some ideas / CCP being less terrible. TL;DR: yea the NC is bad for Blobbing, we ain't the only ones though. Difference is that you always bring the blob regardless what the oppenent bring. IF someone bring 50- you wont come until you have around 100. So next time they bring 100 and you come with 200. NC is the driving factor of the blob. Ask Razor what happend when they came south to fight small to medium gang warefear on equal numbers. It ended up them blueing everything besides Provi and PL cuz they couldnt fight on equal terms without get a bloody nose.
Painpill Minmatar Open Space Mining and Resource Extraction	Posted - 2011.03.21 17:40:00 - [85] Originally by: xKillswitchx Originally by: Caldrion Dosto Also death to NC, death to titans. You know everyone keeps saying that NAPs are the problems in fleet fights. I can tell you this is not always the case. Most alliances have 1K+ members, ME and Rage alone have over 5K members. Those two alliances alone could could bring 2K people to a fleet fight. It's not the NAPs that are the problems, its the fact that CCP has not done enough to build their nodes to compensate for the increase in the number of pilots they pushed out into null sec. Lol everyone know that only 15% of what you state as members, are actuall RL persons, rest, are Alts and people who havent logged in for 12 months+, and dont forget that thoose 15% are also spread out over 3 TZ's So i call your bluff and state that ME + Rage can only field 300 ish max at any given time, and thats only if you are a PvP alliance, which we all know you are not See it is the NAPS that's the problem
Aloe Cloveris Gallente The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple	Posted - 2011.03.21 22:08:00 - [86] I see supercaps dying in huge numbers. Lag is inadvertently saving EVE from itself. CCP, this is brilliant!
StarTrotter Gallente Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.03.21 22:42:00 - [87] Edited by: StarTrotter on 21/03/2011 22:42:00 This thread has way to much elite PVPers in here. I am obviously way out of my depth with you PROsters. armor hacs Armor Hacs ARMOR HACS!!!!
Emo Gallente Gallente Echo Roaming Industries	Posted - 2011.03.21 23:16:00 - [88] Stop blobbing you nc ***gots. That is the solution!!!
Nostradamous Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas.	Posted - 2011.03.21 23:52:00 - [89] Originally by: Aloe Cloveris I see supercaps dying in huge numbers. Lag is inadvertently saving EVE from itself. CCP, this is brilliant!
Salvatore Pizanno Gallente United Kings R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.03.22 00:20:00 - [90] Maybe a solution to the problem of reducing blobs is to create a system designed to devide the blobs. Recreating the SOV warfare mechanics. An idea would be for an enemy alliance/coalition to take over 51% of SOV in one constellation in order to claim a target station vulranable for takeover. If the enemy takes SOV in more than 51% of that constellation all stations in the constellation are vulranable for take over. Doing this will have to split the fights in several systems to reduce blob tactics. Making fun more manageable fights. This will favor small alliances and large alliances as hostiles will have to do more work and so does the defending pilots.

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