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knentil	Posted - 2011.03.23 17:53:00 - [1] After many months of observation, (which is sad that it took me that long) I realized that any pvp that does not take place in .4 or less is in fact just different forms of carebearing. I am so angry that all those high sec piwates mislead me to believe what they did took actual skill! rage rage rage. QQ QQ. now, I think out of spite and an overwhelming compulsion to troll, I will spam this at any high sec piwates and griefers I see. The rage and anger will be easily visible. Ok, that is all, sorry for useless post. :)
Daphne Q Our Own Pirate Society	Posted - 2011.03.23 17:58:00 - [2] IBTL --- Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Awesome Possum Original Sin. PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS	Posted - 2011.03.23 17:58:00 - [3] wtf is a hisec pirate? ♥
Karl Planck Walt Disney Productions	Posted - 2011.03.23 18:00:00 - [4] I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but all pvp outside of low sec is carebearing. Some high sec fights are ok. Some 0.0 skirmishes involve skill. But you know about high sec already. As for 0.0, I don't consider repping posses using 500 to press f1 simultaneously to be pvp either. TL;DR: posting useless response to useless OP ------------------------------------------------- Don't debate with morons. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
BlackSparrowHawk	Posted - 2011.03.23 18:01:00 - [5] Originally by: knentil After many months of observation, (which is sad that it took me that long) I realized that any pvp that does not take place in .4 or less is in fact just different forms of carebearing. I am so angry that all those high sec piwates mislead me to believe what they did took actual skill! rage rage rage. QQ QQ. now, I think out of spite and an overwhelming compulsion to troll, I will spam this at any high sec piwates and griefers I see. The rage and anger will be easily visible. Ok, that is all, sorry for useless post. :) You're bang on correct! hi-sec pvpers (mostly the wardecers) would be eaten alive if they were to purely concentrate in null sec - and they know that. So they make some excuse that 0.0 is boring and no fun.... In fact just writing about it now reminds me of a few people i know of who actually do this (and they never go into null sec).
Firebolt145 The Hatchery	Posted - 2011.03.23 18:22:00 - [6] Originally by: BlackSparrowHawk Originally by: knentil After many months of observation, (which is sad that it took me that long) I realized that any pvp that does not take place in .4 or less is in fact just different forms of carebearing. I am so angry that all those high sec piwates mislead me to believe what they did took actual skill! rage rage rage. QQ QQ. now, I think out of spite and an overwhelming compulsion to troll, I will spam this at any high sec piwates and griefers I see. The rage and anger will be easily visible. Ok, that is all, sorry for useless post. :) You're bang on correct! hi-sec pvpers (mostly the wardecers) would be eaten alive if they were to purely concentrate in null sec - and they know that. So they make some excuse that 0.0 is boring and no fun.... In fact just writing about it now reminds me of a few people i know of who actually do this (and they never go into null sec). I...can't tell if you're serious. If I had to bet money on a fight between the best of highsec/lowsec pirate/pvpers against nullsec pvpers, I'd bet everything on the high/lowsec side.
Bfoster The Dark Horses.	Posted - 2011.03.23 18:30:00 - [7] Edited by: Bfoster on 23/03/2011 18:30:44 3/10.. Op is mad.. My daddy could kick your daddy's a**. -------------------------------------------------
Nikolae Varius Amarr Mongrel Mob	Posted - 2011.03.23 19:41:00 - [8] Only 2 pvpers in o.o are the fc's. IF you found your high sec war experience unsatisfying i recommending war deccing Lonetrek Salvage and Scrap.
fiizzzzzzy	Posted - 2011.03.23 19:43:00 - [9] hmm, this is actually so untrue, some of the best pvp'rs and kills come from hi sec, but ok op, tell us who war decced you and made you cry
Pegleg Punk Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.23 19:58:00 - [10] OP, you are 100% correct! I am a carebear, turned cannibal, and now I feed on my fellow carebears in hi-sec! However the majority pod-pilots classify such behavior, I attempt to inject my own unique flair to each engagement that I initiate! Carebear Cannibal- eating carebears since 2008! Down By Law: Musings of a Space Punk

Maverick2011	Posted - 2011.03.23 19:59:00 - [11] PVP = 0.0-0.4
Cobalt Sablestar Icefluxor Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.03.23 20:32:00 - [12] Originally by: knentil I realized that any pvp that does not take place in .4 or less is in fact just different forms of carebearing. I am so angry that all those high sec piwates mislead me to believe what they did took actual skill! It NEVER takes them skill. And they think their laughable "U SU A$$" psychological warfare mails actually work. Anyone who even replies to them after being ganked is just as much an absolute idiot as them, and are playing right into their hands. Providing them tear mail only proves that YOU are taking this game way too seriously and need to consider some sunshine and fresh air for a change of pace. Lazy IDIOTS ALL of them, both high sec gankers AND most of their victims, 90% of which were AFK when it happens in the first place. ********** "I can not tell you what particular weapon will be used in World War III, but I can tell you what will be used in World War IV. Rocks." - Albert Einstein
takedoom	Posted - 2011.03.23 21:05:00 - [13] Gentlemen, Gentlemen... Everyone knows 0.0, Low Sec, and High Sec PvP is just another form of care bearing to please the non elitist scrubs. Wormholes is where real pvp and skill can be found. If you would like in on the action, check with your local wormhole probing provider.
Machiavelli's Nemesis Angry Mustellid	Posted - 2011.03.23 21:12:00 - [14] Originally by: Maverick2011 PVP = 0.1-0.4 Fixed that for you. 0.0 is almost as full of macros, carebears and idiots as highsec.
Brusanan Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance	Posted - 2011.03.23 21:21:00 - [15] Highsec warfare is full of docking games and neut RR ***gotry, so it isn't usually worth doing. Small gang and solo PVP are the only kinds worth doing. You can get that in any security, you just have to know where to look. ______
Renan Ruivo Caldari Hipernova Tribal Conclave	Posted - 2011.03.23 21:34:00 - [16] I think people on this thread have the wrong conception of what high-sec pvp is. High-sec PVP is also called GANKING. Or are you going to tell me that killing fellow skilled pvp'ers on low-sec is more entertaining then killing a carebear Raven and drink the tears of despair of its former owner? Some people PVP on high-sec because they are afraid of low/null, yeah. But the rest of them are just trolls and gankers who have fun making other people's lives miserable. Delicious, marvelous, saliva-inducing fun. And sorry OP, it looks to me that you was ganked by some high-sec ganker. Show us on the doll where he touched you. ____________ I like woman because breasts
Mel Lifera Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.23 21:58:00 - [17] "Hi-sec PVP" may not involve much "skill", but it sure is funny. ...unless you're the one who got ganked. To tell from the hatemail, that isn't fun at all.
rampro Heroes. Merciless.	Posted - 2011.03.24 00:09:00 - [18] Edited by: rampro on 24/03/2011 00:09:17 Originally by: Brusanan Highsec warfare is full of docking games and neut RR *gotry, so it isn't usually** worth doing. Small gang and solo PVP are the only kinds worth doing. You can get that in any security, you just have to know where to look. fact
Sarfux	Posted - 2011.03.24 00:25:00 - [19] Ok, all these people talking about skill in eve. lmao...what skill? There's no combos, no button mashing, all you do is press f1 and orbit, oh I forgot you MIGHT have to call in on someone to rep you which...again takes NO skill to do. Oh wait...you have to press f2 to warp scramble or f3 to web. Where is this skill I here of...I have been playing for a year and a half now and there are no "skills" so to speak in this game. The only skill you have is when you have everything trained up to 5 and 45 and living in your mom's basement. eve. The game that is pve but people try and make it pvp
Dian'h Might Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated	Posted - 2011.03.24 00:37:00 - [20] It's apples and oranges, you can't really make direct comparisons because each has a different style that has a different focus. Each of the big areas of pvp have their own sets of highlights and lowlights. In my experience, most pvpers of the lowsec variety could beat any of the highsec pvpers I know in a straight up fight. Conversely, most lowsec pvpers I know are terrible at any sort of global strategy that doesn't involve killing the opponent repeatedly in straight up fights. They also often lack the patience required to conduct a successful highsec war. Highsec pvp is all about hunting/stalking targets over long distances, finding ways to engage people who don't want to fight, metagaming, and social engineering. The actual pvp is just a means to an end. Lowsec pvp is all about finding targets fast before they realize you're trying to find them, winning fights you have no business winning, and managing sec status/agro mechanics to your advantage. The pvp is mostly done simply for the fun of pvping. Nullsec pvp is all about logistics, efficiently managing a large amount of idiots to do your bidding, and outplanning your opponent. The actual pvp is just a fast paced activity for the FCs to lead, and they'd probably be just as happy managing a team based cookie baking contest as a fleet fight. - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac"

Merrik Talorra Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.03.24 00:37:00 - [21] Originally by: Sarfux Ok, all these people talking about skill in eve. lmao...what skill? There's no combos, no button mashing, all you do is press f1 and orbit, oh I forgot you MIGHT have to call in on someone to rep you which...again takes NO skill to do. Oh wait...you have to press f2 to warp scramble or f3 to web. Where is this skill I here of...I have been playing for a year and a half now and there are no "skills" so to speak in this game. The only skill you have is when you have everything trained up to 5 and 45 and living in your mom's basement. eve. The game that is pve but people try and make it pvp This method of F1 + orbit is obviously working quite well for you.
Renan Ruivo Caldari Hipernova Tribal Conclave	Posted - 2011.03.24 00:53:00 - [22] Originally by: Dian'h Might It's apples and oranges, you can't really make direct comparisons because each has a different style that has a different focus. Each of the big areas of pvp have their own sets of highlights and lowlights. In my experience, most pvpers of the lowsec variety could beat any of the highsec pvpers I know in a straight up fight. Conversely, most lowsec pvpers I know are terrible at any sort of global strategy that doesn't involve killing the opponent repeatedly in straight up fights. They also often lack the patience required to conduct a successful highsec war. Highsec pvp is all about hunting/stalking targets over long distances, finding ways to engage people who don't want to fight, metagaming, and social engineering. The actual pvp is just a means to an end. Lowsec pvp is all about finding targets fast before they realize you're trying to find them, winning fights you have no business winning, and managing sec status/agro mechanics to your advantage. The pvp is mostly done simply for the fun of pvping. Nullsec pvp is all about logistics, efficiently managing a large amount of idiots to do your bidding, and outplanning your opponent. The actual pvp is just a fast paced activity for the FCs to lead, and they'd probably be just as happy managing a team based cookie baking contest as a fleet fight. This. Write that on your ceilings and fall to sleep reading it. ____________ I like woman because breasts
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.03.24 00:56:00 - [23] Edited by: Mutnin on 24/03/2011 00:59:04 The problem with the idea behind saying low sec PVPers are any better than high sec PVPers, is the fact that most are just as bad as the high sec war decers. First you have the Pie gangs, that fly around with 10-20 BC's to BS with mixed in recons & T3s with tons of logistics. These guys typically rarely ever fight it out and just gank easy prey on gates. Then you have a high sec/null sec gangs that come into low sec and essentially just bait and blob anything they can get to aggress. Last but not least are the FW blobs. These are typically 20 to 30+ not typically very organized but will gank pretty much anything easy. I will admit that they are more likely to have it out with other FW gangs and will typically try to gank or throw themselves at other gangs. All pretty much use numbers to their advantage as a way to advert risk. meaning personally I don't see much difference in the average low sec pvpers vs high sec station humpers or null sec cearbear blobs. In the end, there are very few that use skill over numbers and typically those that do are soloing anyway. Personally, to me PVP is more about setting up the fight, rather than the actual fight. I prefer the hunt part.
Frau Klaps Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.03.24 02:22:00 - [24] IMHO this is what PVP is about... ---
reddot23	Posted - 2011.03.24 11:14:00 - [25] well if you call any mmo pvp right away shows you have no idea what pvp is dust 514 eve 1 pvp game is coming
2ippy Amarr Shadow Incursion En Garde	Posted - 2011.03.24 11:16:00 - [26] In before Aerion Va'rr
Joran Dravius Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2011.03.24 15:14:00 - [27] Originally by: Awesome Possum wtf is a hisec pirate? No such thing. I think he meant ninja looters that occasionally get some accidental PvP when the mission runner shoots at them.
RasTrent Private Nuisance Segregati0n	Posted - 2011.03.24 18:09:00 - [28] Private Nuisance PVP best PVP. ----- One awesome image per signature. ♥ Zymurgist http://rastrent.srslywtf.com/I MAEK BLOG
Frau Klaps Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.03.24 18:13:00 - [29] Originally by: RasTrent Private Nuisance PVP best PVP. Pathetic V. Pathetic ---
RasTrent Private Nuisance Segregati0n	Posted - 2011.03.24 18:54:00 - [30] i thought it was Penile vs Penile. we play tummy stick all day. ----- One awesome image per signature. ♥ Zymurgist http://rastrent.srslywtf.com/I MAEK BLOG

Akkukkak	Posted - 2011.03.24 19:05:00 - [31] Originally by: takedoom Gentlemen, Gentlemen... Everyone knows 0.0, Low Sec, and High Sec PvP is just another form of care bearing to please the non elitist scrubs. Wormholes is where real pvp and skill can be found. If you would like in on the action, check with your local wormhole probing provider. This. There is not such thing as "PvP" in EVE. Only blobings and running away when they feel the heat. WH space is the closest thing because fleet limitations by design.
Alexei Antonov Caldari The Devil's Brigade	Posted - 2011.03.24 19:13:00 - [32] We just shoot stuff. Ask philosophical Eve questions after. (Agreeing that no-local and fleet size limitations in wormholes is fun, but really...you can get around that in empire or null anyways.) [url=http://gho.eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=375068] [/url]
chadbrochill17	Posted - 2011.03.24 19:27:00 - [33] Originally by: takedoom Gentlemen, Gentlemen... Everyone knows 0.0, Low Sec, and High Sec PvP is just another form of care bearing to please the non elitist scrubs. Wormholes is where real pvp and skill can be found. If you would like in on the action, check with your local wormhole probing provider. this
Karl Planck Walt Disney Productions	Posted - 2011.03.24 20:26:00 - [34] Edited by: Karl Planck on 24/03/2011 20:30:25 WH space isn't filled with carebears...ROFL. Now, there is a great deal of good solid pvp. But A LOT of the time those are ganks. A do love the mechanics for being a seperate part of the game. But lets all admit something about your pvp haven. There is a great price. And that price is tediousness and boredom. , Anyone who lives or has lived in wh space will attest to how fcking terrible scanning all the time can be. Edit not to mention that there are no belts to jump around in, no sec bonuses for killing rats. PVP in wh's is great, don't get me wrong, but aside from the absence of blob warfare (and that is being kind) it has its own problems. While fun at first, after a while not many people can't take it. IN ADDITION, lots of fights involve pos's. And while that might either be shooting at it for hours or it be blockading the whole from getting fuel, that too is extremely boring. Just saying, lets be honest here. ------------------------------------------------- Don't debate with morons. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Keeves Minmatar Quality Control. Snatch Victory	Posted - 2011.03.24 20:42:00 - [35] Good highsec pvp involves corporations and individuals who have a very broad understanding of aggression timers, baiting, locator agents, OOC alts, and metagaming in order to get their pvp. It's can be very arduous and time consuming getting the pvp you want in highsec. Lowsec pvp involves a solid understanding of individual pilot skill. The better the individuals know what their ships are capable of achieving, the better the lowsec pvpers are. Nullsec pvp involves a good FC and groups who can ship into what ship is called for. Pretty much one guy runs the gang, and if everyone listens then they will do well.
Jude Lloyd	Posted - 2011.03.24 20:44:00 - [36] Eve has PVP?
BONNER INSPECTOR	Posted - 2011.03.24 20:53:00 - [37] Edited by: BONNER INSPECTOR on 24/03/2011 20:53:57 Originally by: Jude Lloyd Eve has PVP? Forum PvP, Best PvP.
Aerion Va'rr The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.24 20:58:00 - [38] Originally by: 2ippy In before Aerion Va'rr Congratulations?
Proclus Diadochu Retribution. Inc. R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.03.25 00:58:00 - [39] Originally by: Jude Lloyd Eve has PVP? Confirming PvP is a myth... No such thing has ever occurred in EvE. EvE is actually Latin for Carebear.
Mickey Simon Genos Occidere	Posted - 2011.03.25 01:16:00 - [40] Edited by: Mickey Simon on 25/03/2011 01:17:01 Originally by: Keeves Good highsec pvp involves corporations and individuals who have a very broad understanding of aggression timers, baiting, locator agents, OOC alts, and metagaming in order to get their pvp. It's can be very arduous and time consuming getting the pvp you want in highsec. Lowsec pvp involves a solid understanding of individual pilot skill. The better the individuals know what their ships are capable of achieving, the better the lowsec pvpers are. Nullsec pvp involves a good FC and groups who can ship into what ship is called for. Pretty much one guy runs the gang, and if everyone listens then they will do well. While you literally know nothing about 0.0 or lowsec, your assessment of hisec is pretty accurate. Hisec is less about PvP and more about *****ed games in order to shoot something. It's not about good fights, it's about feeling :smug: with your buddy buddies when you kill 1 ship with 10. It's not really PvP, and the people that do it for the most part* aren't really good at EVE because they never actually have a real fight on their hands.

Aerion Va'rr The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.25 02:37:00 - [41] Originally by: Mickey Simon While you literally know nothing about 0.0 or lowsec, your assessment of hisec is pretty accurate. Hisec is less about PvP and more about *****ed games in order to shoot something. It's not about good fights, it's about feeling :smug: with your buddy buddies when you kill 1 ship with 10. It's not really PvP, and the people that do it for the most part* aren't really good at EVE because they never actually have a real fight on their hands. You sound kinda bitter there guy.
Mickey Simon Genos Occidere	Posted - 2011.03.25 02:54:00 - [42] Originally by: Aerion Va'rr You sound kinda bitter there guy. And you sound kinda bad.
reddot23	Posted - 2011.03.25 04:56:00 - [43] Edited by: reddot23 on 25/03/2011 05:02:23 Edited by: reddot23 on 25/03/2011 04:57:45 its funny to hear players of try talk big like eve is pvp at all none of you will be playing dust 514 it will take skill speed reflex nice xbot360 the real pvp players make fun of eve players. just so you know eve is fleet warfair no one ship in game is made to fight alone they are all made to be in a fleet kind of like raids in wow
Dian'h Might Minmatar Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated	Posted - 2011.03.25 05:10:00 - [44] Originally by: Mickey Simon Hisec is less about PvP and more about *****ed games in order to shoot something. It's not about good fights, it's about feeling :smug: with your buddy buddies when you kill 1 ship with 10. It's not really PvP, and the people that do it for the most part* aren't really good at EVE because they never actually have a real fight on their hands. GJ missing the point. People don't highsec pvp for the fights, they highsec pvp for the metagaming, the stalking, and the potential to cause massive chaos amongst people who most definitely don't want to be pvp'ed. Your post is pretty much the equivalent of going to play bumpercars, and at the start you race to the other side of the arena as fast as you can. Then you get out and gloat about how you made it to the other side first, and comment about how dumb the other drivers are because they can't even go straight and keep running into each other. - - - Dian'h Might - C&Ps resident "internet kleptomaniac"
Leksi Bar'zuk	Posted - 2011.03.25 05:15:00 - [45] Quote: High-sec pvp is... One of the few places I can find a multi-billion isk carebear to pop without shooting someone in the NC? ( At least not on their main. )
Keeves Minmatar Quality Control. Snatch Victory	Posted - 2011.03.25 06:30:00 - [46] Originally by: Mickey Simon Edited by: Mickey Simon on 25/03/2011 01:17:01 Originally by: Keeves Good highsec pvp involves corporations and individuals who have a very broad understanding of aggression timers, baiting, locator agents, OOC alts, and metagaming in order to get their pvp. It's can be very arduous and time consuming getting the pvp you want in highsec. Lowsec pvp involves a solid understanding of individual pilot skill. The better the individuals know what their ships are capable of achieving, the better the lowsec pvpers are. Nullsec pvp involves a good FC and groups who can ship into what ship is called for. Pretty much one guy runs the gang, and if everyone listens then they will do well. While you literally know nothing about 0.0 or lowsec, your assessment of hisec is pretty accurate. Forty-four female Sprague-Dawley rats were used, weighing between 200 and 250 gm each. A deep level of anesthesia was maintained with pentobarbital sodium. The chorda tympani nerve was exposed with a lateral approach and pared down until the discharges of individual neurons could be led off through a fine (125/t) uninsulated nichrome wire electrode over which the nerve strand was looped. Data were obtained from 62 single neurons. The potentials were displayed on a Tektronix 502 oscilloscope and photographed with a Grass C4 kymograph camera, often after storage on a Sanborn-Ampex 2000 magnetic data recorder. The data used consisted of the number of discharges produced by individual neurons in the first second of activity evoked by various taste stimuli. A flow chamber was fitted over the anterior portion of the tongue for the administration of the taste solutions; no saliva could flow onto this part of the tongue. Each stimulus was flowed over the tongue for about 4 seconds, followed by a distilled water rinse of about 20 seconds. The stimuli and the rinse were at room temperature. The stimuli and their concentrations were as follows: 1.0 M sucrose; 0.3 M CaC12 and KCI; 0.1 M LiC, NaCI, NH4CI, Na2SO 4, NaNO3, and NaOH; 0.03 M HCI; and 0.01 M QHCI (quinine hydrochloride). These concentrations were selected to produce response magnitudes of roughly half the maximum possible for each stimulus, except for sucrose which is too viscous at concentrations greater than 1 M. Several salts were used since it was found convenient in the treatment of the data to have several similar stimuli; this will become apparent below. These stimuli were presented in random order, each from one to 15 times depending on how long the fiber continued to give spike discharges that could be identified as originating from a single neuron.
Syndryna	Posted - 2011.03.25 17:41:00 - [47] No I'M the only one that knows (and does) real pvp everyone else is a carebear wuss because I do it the best and the only real way. Duh. Seriously, it's like you're 4.
chadbrochill17	Posted - 2011.03.25 18:01:00 - [48] Originally by: Karl Planck Edited by: Karl Planck on 24/03/2011 20:30:25 ...There is a great price. And that price is tediousness and boredom... Yeah, when explaining it to the unfamiliar, I like to compare WH PvP to fishing. You spend quite a bit of time bored out your mind, wondering what you were thinking back when it seemed like a good idea. But, every once in a while, you land a whopper and get to brag to all your friends about it.
chadbrochill17	Posted - 2011.03.25 18:17:00 - [49] Originally by: reddot23 Edited by: reddot23 on 25/03/2011 05:02:23 Edited by: reddot23 on 25/03/2011 04:57:45 its funny to hear players of try talk big like eve is pvp at all none of you will be playing dust 514 it will take skill speed reflex nice xbot360 the real pvp players make fun of eve players. just so you know eve is fleet warfair no one ship in game is made to fight alone they are all made to be in a fleet kind of like raids in wow Comparing an FPS to this game, in terms of PvP is ridiculous, has to be troll, am only responding because I somewhat disagree with your assertion that solo PvP is unviable in this game. It is most definitely still viable. It is just far riskier nowadays than in the past (or at least it seems that way). As for the comparison to WoW, I again assume troll or abject ignorance, either way I deign to reply. (btw, you might wanna go for a 3rd edit. It is xbox360, not xbot360. And, warfare, not warfair)
Leeroy McJenkins GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.25 18:50:00 - [50] Originally by: Akkukkak This. There is not such thing as "PvP" in EVE. Only blobings and running away when they feel the heat. WH space is the closest thing because fleet limitations by design. I heard the Iraqi army called unfair pvp when the US Air Force bombed them. There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement. ---------------------------- GoonWaffe is recruiting.

ISK1machine	Posted - 2011.03.25 19:11:00 - [51] Lol at high sec PVPers...If you ever manage to get them to go off dock range or jump range they are pretty easy to kill. They love doing what they do,shooting afk haulers but in the end when it a fight is involved they usually run once a gang with same numbers is there.Stuck in their fantasy that PVP is played only in docking ranges and up to 20 kms once you field a couple of long range recons for tackling and some alpha strike dudes they wonder what happens when you land 60km away from them and slaughter them(and their neut logis that get insta poped). Its a nice thing to have your corp wardecced by them,you can actually try and practise against them before you go to low sec or null sec where there are cynos,jump bridges,bubbles and ofc blobs and make things a bit more interesting than playing with the dock button. Ofc if you do stuff correctly you ll find your self without decs and their KBs with no "campaign" about you..
Aerion Va'rr The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.25 19:18:00 - [52] Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement. +50 Internets for you sir.
Jhagiti Tyran Caldari Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns	Posted - 2011.03.25 20:14:00 - [53] Posting in a "my pvp is better than other peoples pvp" thread.
Aerion Va'rr The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.26 00:27:00 - [54] Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran Posting in a "my pvp is better than other peoples pvp" thread. I thought it was a 'I got into GENOS **** Yeah' thread
The PitBoss Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.26 00:33:00 - [55] HIGH SEC: Trying to kill WAR TARGETS before the grid loads when they undock -or- they warp to an INST-Undock. NULL SEC: Trying to kill NON-BLUES before the grid loads when they jump into you -or- in a bubble while they run to a gate. Don't hate Empire dwellers because your leaders NAP everyone out there and WE have more targets Thank-You, The Pitboss Signatures by: Kalen Vox
Mickey Simon Genos Occidere	Posted - 2011.03.26 04:44:00 - [56] Originally by: Dian'h Might GJ missing the point. People don't highsec pvp for the fights, they highsec pvp for the metagaming, the stalking, and the potential to cause massive chaos amongst people who most definitely don't want to be pvp'ed. No, I think you misunderstood my post. I've done alot of hisec PvP, been in all the major merc alliances, and understand that it's metagaming. It's not PvP though, that was my point. There's quite a few people in :hisec: alliances that think they're PvP gods despite the fact that the only PvP that they actually engage in is your typical "target undocks, get him to aggress, warp 20 friends to you" sort of fight or "target undocks, have people on every gate in the system and get tackle on him, then bounce him through gates". I understand some people love the metagaming of catching someone and the related stuff, but pretending that the fight itself is impressive, or that there's any PvP prowess there is ridiculous. If you wanted a better analogy, it's like being in a race, and people playing bumper cars. People are racing, then there's a bunch of people playing bumper cars. Good on them, they're enjoying themselves. But they're not racing. Originally by: Keeves ~another quality post~ Keep posting, ur rly good at it! Originally by: The PitBoss there's no difference between hisec pvp and nullsec pvp The key difference is that alot of fights don't happen at stations, and that there are a lot more actual fights in nullsec/lowsec then there are in hisec. Firstly because there's less carebears there, and secondly because the people that are there accept some small risk and therefore it's unlikely that you get :hisec: pvpers there who are almost as bad as the carebears they're trying to shoot.
Herbstleyd Caldari Atrocity.	Posted - 2011.03.26 11:42:00 - [57] Originally by: The PitBoss HIGH SEC: Trying to kill WAR TARGETS before the grid loads when they undock -or- they warp to an INST-Undock. NULL SEC: Trying to kill NON-BLUES before the grid loads when they jump into you -or- in a bubble while they run to a gate. Don't hate Empire dwellers because your leaders NAP everyone out there and WE have more targets I think I can sign that as is. :) Had to be said. --- Libenter homines id, quod volunt, credunt.
Tea2theBag Lonetrek Salvage and Scrap	Posted - 2011.03.27 17:16:00 - [58] Did someone say LSS#1.
Erichk Knaar Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.03.27 17:34:00 - [59] If you get into a fair fight in eve, you're doing it wrong... j/s..
Tazz Grokken Minmatar Mongrel Mob	Posted - 2011.03.27 18:38:00 - [60] Originally by: The PitBoss HIGH SEC: Trying to kill WAR TARGETS before the grid loads when they undock -or- they warp to an INST-Undock. This is not fun and is not pvp this is what you do when things get desperate for kills and are very lazy I myself am more interested in the quality of my kills more than the quanity and war deccing 10 allainces a week and sitting outside jita picking of the noobs many dont have insta warps and dont know about session timers etc

Steintz Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.27 19:21:00 - [61] Originally by: Tazz Grokken and war deccing 10 allainces a week and sitting outside jita picking of the noobs many dont have insta warps and dont know about session timers etc Yeah .. like THIS GUY
Aerion Va'rr The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.27 19:44:00 - [62] Originally by: Tazz Grokken Originally by: The PitBoss HIGH SEC: Trying to kill WAR TARGETS before the grid loads when they undock -or- they warp to an INST-Undock. This is not fun and is not pvp this is what you do when things get desperate for kills and are very lazy I myself am more interested in the quality of my kills more than the quanity and war deccing 10 allainces a week and sitting outside jita picking of the noobs many dont have insta warps and dont know about session timers etc Because dec'ing Mining/Mission Corps hiding behind Logistics is Real Mens PvP. I'm glad to see your still butthurt, and I think I can speak for everyone that ever flew with you that your garbage. Turrrrable... just Turrrrrrable.
Tazz Grokken Minmatar Mongrel Mob	Posted - 2011.03.27 20:05:00 - [63] Edited by: Tazz Grokken on 27/03/2011 20:05:51 Originally by: Steintz Originally by: Tazz Grokken and war deccing 10 allainces a week and sitting outside jita picking of the noobs many dont have insta warps and dont know about session timers etc Yeah .. like THIS GUY i dont know what was i thinking lol this is going to be easy you have not got any kills outside of jita since joining the The 0rphanage before that you were in Red Federation flying rifters pro dude you last ship you lost was in 2010 ffs with the most stupid fit i have seen in a long time 480 dps for a bs with all level 5 skills http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7213007 if i were you i would stop posting on the forums your making yourself and the The 0rphanage look silly i word says it all noob
Tazz Grokken Minmatar Mongrel Mob	Posted - 2011.03.27 20:16:00 - [64] Originally by: Aerion Va'rr Originally by: Tazz Grokken Originally by: The PitBoss HIGH SEC: Trying to kill WAR TARGETS before the grid loads when they undock -or- they warp to an INST-Undock. This is not fun and is not pvp this is what you do when things get desperate for kills and are very lazy I myself am more interested in the quality of my kills more than the quanity and war deccing 10 allainces a week and sitting outside jita picking of the noobs many dont have insta warps and dont know about session timers etc Because dec'ing Mining/Mission Corps hiding behind Logistics is Real Mens PvP. I'm glad to see your still butthurt, and I think I can speak for everyone that ever flew with you that your garbage. Turrrrable... just Turrrrrrable. lol great propaganda there i didnt fly with you guys i sat outside jita remember in my pimp mach if thats garbage to you enough said Garage= Steintz btw
Aerion Va'rr The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.27 20:27:00 - [65] Originally by: Tazz Grokken Garage= Steintz btw Steintz is a Garage? Man I would have never guessed, such a nice guy. I like all this **** your talking.. you've gotten 3 kills since you left ad0pt. The people that you vouched for are still here, and your still butthurt that you got kicked; I'm glad you have fun in your new group, I'm sure they like people that argue with FC's and are obviously awesome because they can fly a machariel... Thanks again for the lulz. You truly never cease to entertain.
Frau Klaps Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.03.27 20:31:00 - [66] Originally by: Aerion Va'rr Thanks again for the lulz. You truly never cease to entertain. Orphanage are amazing. ---
Lana Lotts	Posted - 2011.03.27 20:36:00 - [67] Originally by: Aerion Va'rr Originally by: Tazz Grokken Garage= Steintz btw I'm sure they like people that argue with FC's and are obviously awesome because they can fly a machariel... And youre pretty good at losing them. Back to jita, noob.
Aerion Va'rr The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.27 20:47:00 - [68] Originally by: Lana Lotts And youre pretty good at losing them. Back to jita, noob. Because I've lost soooo many of them. Also- I prefer the Uedama as of late. Thanks for your continued support Lana, I couldn't do it without you.
Krist Valentine Amarr funmachine	Posted - 2011.03.27 21:52:00 - [69] Originally by: Sarfux Ok, all these people talking about skill in eve. lmao...what skill? There's no combos, no button mashing, all you do is press f1 and orbit, oh I forgot you MIGHT have to call in on someone to rep you which...again takes NO skill to do. Oh wait...you have to press f2 to warp scramble or f3 to web. Where is this skill I here of...I have been playing for a year and a half now and there are no "skills" so to speak in this game. The only skill you have is when you have everything trained up to 5 and 45 and living in your mom's basement. eve. The game that is pve but people try and make it pvp OK GUYS LISTEN UP CAUSE THIS GUY'S BEEN AROUND SINCE LATE '09/EARLY '10 SO HE'S PROBABLY GOT IT FIGURED.
ButteSauce	Posted - 2011.03.28 00:51:00 - [70] well to be quite truthful this game doesn't really require much skill compared to an FPS or even a RTS game... even the mechanics dont really take that long to learn

Tazz Grokken Minmatar Mongrel Mob	Posted - 2011.03.28 01:25:00 - [71] Edited by: Tazz Grokken on 28/03/2011 01:25:40 Steintz is a Garbage? Man I would have never guessed, such a nice guy. I like all this **** your talking.. you've gotten 3 kills since you left ad0pt. The people that you vouched for are still here, and your still butthurt that you got kicked; I'm glad you have fun in your new group, I'm sure they like people that argue with FC's and are obviously awesome because they can fly a machariel... Rolling Eyes Thanks again for the lulz. You truly never cease to entertain. Your really clutching at straws i normally judge a pilot on this kills not how active he is. Its hard to log into all my accounts to be honest but i try so in response i went to low sec to get some kills great fun was had, beats sitting in jita
Owen Drakkar Mean Corp Mean Coalition	Posted - 2011.03.28 01:46:00 - [72] I didn't read this thread for awhile based on the title and it is just as silly as I thought it would be. It has devolved into a lot of chest beating and a few good posts. I will add that it really does not matter what another player thinks of how you pvp, or pve for that matter, only that you enjoy doing it enough to justify keeping your account subscribed. ---------- Bah humbug.
Aerion Va'rr The Priesthood The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.28 02:18:00 - [73] Originally by: Tazz Grokken I went to low sec to get some kills great fun was had, beats sitting in jita Sorry, wouldn't know.
Steintz Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.03.28 07:32:00 - [74] Originally by: Tazz Grokken emorage U mad bro ? He mad. /Steintz "The Garage"
Syndryna	Posted - 2011.03.28 15:13:00 - [75] This back and forth butthurt requires more C&P attention.
Anti Castro Pigeons Minmatar Coup Coup Coup	Posted - 2011.03.28 16:48:00 - [76] Originally by: Syndryna This back and forth butthurt requires more C&P attention. It really doesn't. I'd actually prefer if the orphanage stuck to Jita and GTFO of C&P, then I would never have to deal with their incompetence.


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