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CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:02:00 - [1] At each EVE Fanfest we share our future visions for EVE. This year we expand it a bit further into where we are headed with the EVE Universe--with a forward-looking video. Missed it on the live stream? Want to see it again? Head to our YouTube page. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us

5n4keyes Sacred Templars RED.OverLord	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:05:00 - [2] **** YEAH!
Flynn Fetladral Caldari BlackSite Prophecy	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:07:00 - [3] EVE Future, Best Future! Follow Flynn on Twitter
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:11:00 - [4] That is an awesome vision of the future. Just don't ***** out on it on the road to it. I'm sure there will be times where you want to cut corners and make compromises because what you're trying to achieve will be god damn hard, but don't give up on it. That vision is worth all the sweat and effort it takes to achieve it. Truly amazing and inspiring.
Rek Seven Gallente Guy Fawkes Trust Fund	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:15:00 - [5] OMG that was awesome. But it confirmed my belief that Dust would be better as a 3rd person shooter. I hope you give us the option.
Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:19:00 - [6] Watched it Started off and was like "hmm sounds like C&C music" Ok'ish vid, but what really made my ** my pants was the dreads shooting FPS tards on planets, now I hope this isnt a false promise, because I will be really **ed, I would literally buy 1000 GTC if this was a feature. Noticed in station shooting etc too, which is also nice, hope this is possible too. Anyway I missed the fanfest stream, was anything said on how DUST will affect 0.0?? . Im not Bismaru, im better!
Laser Purification	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:19:00 - [7] I hope you guys finish Dust and WoD soon so you can do some more work on that star-ship game you own.
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries Matari Legion	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:20:00 - [8] That was awesome, I hope to see this vision reality.
Dorah Hawkwing Old Galactic Earth Regiment Dragoon Federation	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:21:00 - [9] Finally a reason to learn dreadnaught! Awesome
Templar Butan Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:21:00 - [10] EPIC

Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:24:00 - [11] btw when you say future do you mean this year or is this going to be a seven year project too :P because it would be nice to see this before WOD comes out XD . Im not Bismaru, im better!
mkmin	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:26:00 - [12] Originally by: Kalle Demos Watched it Started off and was like "hmm sounds like C&C music" Ok'ish vid, but what really made my ** my pants was the dreads shooting FPS tards on planets, now I hope this isnt a false promise, because I will be really **ed, I would literally buy 1000 GTC if this was a feature. Noticed in station shooting etc too, which is also nice, hope this is possible too. Anyway I missed the fanfest stream, was anything said on how DUST will affect 0.0?? Piece of advice: don't take this vid remotely literally. It was meant to be entertaining, but it's very well established that movies and video games both suck when they try to mimic each other.
Nyio Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:27:00 - [13] Just Epic! (So epic I had to post again)
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:28:00 - [14] Originally by: Kalle Demos btw when you say future do you mean this year or is this going to be a seven year project too :P because it would be nice to see this before WOD comes out XD Read the thread title again, understand the thread title.
Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.03.26 17:32:00 - [15] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Originally by: Kalle Demos btw when you say future do you mean this year or is this going to be a seven year project too :P because it would be nice to see this before WOD comes out XD Read the thread title again, understand the thread title. Sooo ermm? They want todo it but theres no ETA? Also if everyone spams the link on 'It's Friday' im sure you will get alot more views despite the reply floods currently happening . Im not Bismaru, im better!

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2011.03.26 18:07:00 - [16] EVE: Forever... Duke Nukem Forever? Secure 3rd party service \| my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar'

Raid'En	Posted - 2011.03.26 18:11:00 - [17] Edited by: Raid''En on 26/03/2011 18:10:59 Originally by: Chribba EVE: Forever... Duke Nukem Forever? don't work anymore, DNF is launching this year. ---------------- Wormhole Trading
Sigvald Gottschalk 5 Guys With Internet	Posted - 2011.03.26 19:35:00 - [18] Holy ****.
Fat Freddy	Posted - 2011.03.26 19:49:00 - [19] Remember folks, this is a "vision of the future". I went to Fanfest in 2008, it was really good and I would love to go again sometime. While there CCP showed a video of their "vision of the future" it showed the captains quarters, and the inside of the station, with the idea that you could rent shop and office space. This was 3 years ago! and we are still waiting, there were quite a few "visions" shown that weekend, and most of them found their way into game in some form or another. Epic mission arcs was the one I remember best (being a carebear) they were introducing not only a new set of missions, but a framework that would allow mission creation to be really easy and much better than the current system, it would allow endless variation... in the end we got 4 missions out of that and nothing more. I only cite this example to throw this awesome video into perspective. TL;DR Take with a pinch of salt Fred
Gummi	Posted - 2011.03.26 20:00:00 - [20] Originally by: Fat Freddy Remember folks, this is a "vision of the future". I went to Fanfest in 2008, it was really good and I would love to go again sometime. While there CCP showed a video of their "vision of the future" it showed the captains quarters, and the inside of the station, with the idea that you could rent shop and office space. This was 3 years ago! and we are still waiting, there were quite a few "visions" shown that weekend, and most of them found their way into game in some form or another. Epic mission arcs was the one I remember best (being a carebear) they were introducing not only a new set of missions, but a framework that would allow mission creation to be really easy and much better than the current system, it would allow endless variation... in the end we got 4 missions out of that and nothing more. I only cite this example to throw this awesome video into perspective. TL;DR Take with a pinch of salt Fred Yep, my thoughts too. Instead of Eve: Forever it should be Eve: Never Cool video, but just adds to the disapointment of what will never be.

Ticondrius United Federation Starfleet Saints Amongst Sinners	Posted - 2011.03.26 20:01:00 - [21] A vision of the future it may be, but by George what a beautiful vision! In before "Help isn't coming. At all." memes... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- NRDS: Not Really Defending Space MMORPG: Many Men Online Role Playing Girls
Zirse Minmatar ZED Industries	Posted - 2011.03.26 20:16:00 - [22] Well, this game is going to kick-ass in... 10 years?
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.03.26 20:21:00 - [23] Didn't look like there were any engine trails or awesome cyno effects in Eve's future. ...
Gogela Freeport Exploration	Posted - 2011.03.26 20:28:00 - [24] Really exciting trailer. I really like where all of this is going... just FYI I may know a guy doing some planet side ops when this comes to pass... and this "guy" I know knows all of your EvE backstabbing BS so don't try playing me... uh... him... like the dude in the trailer or I will come getchya! "A hungry man will tell you anything if you give him a cookie."
Illwill Bill Reign of Anarchy	Posted - 2011.03.26 20:37:00 - [25] Originally by: Razin Didn't look like there were any engine trails or awesome cyno effects in Eve's future. +1 Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Revenge is a dish best served with auto-cannons.
Cailais Amarr Neo-Tech Solutions	Posted - 2011.03.26 21:10:00 - [26] Originally by: Fat Freddy Remember folks, this is a "vision of the future". I went to Fanfest in 2008, it was really good and I would love to go again sometime. While there CCP showed a video of their "vision of the future" it showed the captains quarters, and the inside of the station, with the idea that you could rent shop and office space. This was 3 years ago! and we are still waiting, there were quite a few "visions" shown that weekend, and most of them found their way into game in some form or another. Epic mission arcs was the one I remember best (being a carebear) they were introducing not only a new set of missions, but a framework that would allow mission creation to be really easy and much better than the current system, it would allow endless variation... in the end we got 4 missions out of that and nothing more. I only cite this example to throw this awesome video into perspective. TL;DR Take with a pinch of salt Fred Sadly this is very much the case. EVE creeps towards the future and never quite or feels as great as the promise. Such is the power of marketing. Cool video though. C. the hydrostatic capsule blog
aroon thrace Caldari The Cognitive Faction Permanent Transience	Posted - 2011.03.26 22:14:00 - [27] I don't see it happening, especially in the short-to-medium run. Despite I'd love to be proven wrong, the video looks no more than a cliffhanger.
Zverofaust Gallente Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.03.26 22:43:00 - [28] Obligatory bitter post. Maybe if you put all of the time and effort that went into making all of these video into actual game development instead of lies and deceit, you'd have something far more substantial in Eve already. ___________________________________________ The Hero of Kamela The Terror of Tararan The Executioner of Ezzara
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.03.26 22:52:00 - [29] Originally by: Zverofaust Obligatory bitter post. Maybe if you put all of the time and effort that went into making all of these video into actual game development instead of lies and deceit, you'd have something far more substantial in Eve already. Yay, because it takes all of CCP's 400 employees to put together a CGX video lasting 2'38"... EVE Forever is a teaser of what EVE could be in say 5 years. If things go right and the decissions are taken and so many variables. But hey, this Fanfest will be wild compared to next years' when all they will announce will be an endless row of much needed iterations (according to the schedule provided like a year ago where 2011= Incarna 0.5 and 2012= Incarna 1.0 +feature iterations at last).
Shasz Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression	Posted - 2011.03.26 23:19:00 - [30] The promising thing is that video was done with existing tools and in-game style assets according to the presentation, not a fancy pre-rendered animation that the game(s) will never look like. It's good to see what the future holds I think... the "I want it NAO!" crowd can whine all they want.

Reonetii Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.27 00:14:00 - [31] Originally by: Razin Didn't look like there were any engine trails or awesome cyno effects in Eve's future. +2
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.27 00:18:00 - [32] Edited by: J Kunjeh on 27/03/2011 00:18:21 Man this place can get crowded with whine real fast... I loved the trailer and the vision it puts forth for the future of Eve (yes, visions are about the future, what can be, not the immediate present). Kudos to CCP for being visionary in all they do. ~Gnosis~
41 49 3432 Rogue Drone Systems	Posted - 2011.03.27 00:43:00 - [33] Dear CCP, I am sending you a 10$ fine for laundry replacement; including for underwear and pants. Thank you
Kinta Huron Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.03.27 01:13:00 - [34] That was nothing short of ****ing awesome! It's why I keep subscribing.
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.03.27 01:21:00 - [35] Perfect. CCP; your vision of the most awesome game ever is in alignment with mine. The pip-squeaks around here seems incapable to understand the importance of having a vision and when to be concerned or not. Now, if CCPs vision was about spamming your friends with invites that would add to your progress or raid bosses and getting purple loot I would consider an end to this hobby. But this is good, damn good. -- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Lorebook - Mysteries of W-space
Waaaaaagggh	Posted - 2011.03.27 01:47:00 - [36] and... **** in my pants
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School	Posted - 2011.03.27 04:22:00 - [37] Well now I have something to take the place of the planetary flight footage. Never going to happen. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala.
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2011.03.27 04:56:00 - [38] The only thing that bums me out is knowing that the reality of all this will be very different. I mean, it's a completely different atmosphere when you have characters that don't have voices and who don't have facial expressions. That little nuanced look the girl gave as the guy walked past? Yeah, not going to happen. You'll have plenty of emotionless people standing around chatting by text (or maybe somewhat disembodied voices, if people start opting for voice). I know it's pretty difficult to find a way around that and it'll probably come in time (to a degree). And by time, I mean, ten or fifteen years. But it's an unavoidable "valley" that I just don't think we can currently bridge.
Kalissa Sacred Templars RED.OverLord	Posted - 2011.03.27 05:29:00 - [39] The video was perhaps one of the best I've ever seen, but people should bear in mind it's very likely to take years to get to the stage of what that video showed. As has been mentioned before in this thread "walking in stations" or Incarna as we now know it has been in the pipes for about 3 years now and we're still probably 4+ months away from the very first iteration from it being released (remember we're getting the captain's quarters only, there wont be any interaction with other players yet) So as a video yes, it was very good and did impress me, but people should not get carried away Eve being like it was in that video is many years off.
Pantorus Necraliss Minmatar Giza'Msafara	Posted - 2011.03.27 06:30:00 - [40] @ CCP, that's average my felling about Eve Online after (awesome) fanfest and (awesome) new video released... @ Raid'En : about the Duke, watch that - Giza'Msafara recrute, entrez dans une corporation au background solide.

JcJet Caldari Pretenders Inc W-Space	Posted - 2011.03.27 07:26:00 - [41] Not bad. Good to know that you guys still have a vision like that, to increase depth of the game, not just space strategy. Some other companies tried to do something like that, but fails(or all of the game aspects was very simple), becase their plans was too big, but you already have a foundry, and income. Orbital bombardment and air strikes(from carriers?), well why not? Yes, it's a big advantage but stakes are also higher - death in FPS is almost nothing compared to capital ship destruction by an opposite space forces or planetary defence systems. ---
ConkerBirdy	Posted - 2011.03.27 09:43:00 - [42] Originally by: Shasz The promising thing is that video was done with existing tools and in-game style assets according to the presentation, not a fancy pre-rendered animation that the game(s) will never look like. It's good to see what the future holds I think... the "I want it NAO!" crowd can whine all they want. This is what i actually noticed first, it looked more ingame then some cinematic quality models. All i think it was is just some scripting, prolly some after effects for the planet transition (i seen a similar thing done in a gmod video) or just some custom planet/world
Eyup Mi'duck	Posted - 2011.03.27 10:53:00 - [43] Exciting stuff, but when...? Promising this so early ahead of release is a dangerous strategy, you'll have a real job managing people's expectations.
Igotthehorn	Posted - 2011.03.27 11:22:00 - [44] I'd like to say it was fun doing this movie
Zverofaust Gallente Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.03.27 12:26:00 - [45] Originally by: J Kunjeh Edited by: J Kunjeh on 27/03/2011 00:18:21 Man this place can get crowded with whine real fast... You should see how fast the fanboys skitter out of the woodwork. Now that's a flash mob. ___________________________________________ The Hero of Kamela The Terror of Tararan The Executioner of Ezzara
Merouk Baas Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.27 13:26:00 - [46] Cool video, but how many of the features will actually be implemented as shown remains to be seen. One thing not shown in the video: you can't have planetary bombardment and air support without also having planetary defenses (surface-to-orbit, surface-to-air, and orbital defenses). It would be too one-sided to let the ships shoot at the planet and not let the planet shoot at the ships.
TheLostPenguin	Posted - 2011.03.27 14:16:00 - [47] Cool video, nice to see at least one guy (whoever storyboarded this) at CCP still has some idea of how awesome stuff should be, now all that needs to happen is this guy gets in charge of future content planning rather than just making the pretty vidoes... Seriously how many people would prefer it if we got a steady stream of bugfixes and minor iterations of stuff, and then a BIG expansion every 12-18 months with say planetary interaction on the scale of orbital bombardments/fighters being sent to support ground forces and planetary defenses to potentially balance the odds landing ingame in an awesome, working chunk of win? Most of the reason expansions tend towards half-arsed buggy messes with a somewhat limited vision is the fierce developement cycles imposed on them. We could have stuff working ingame like that in a couple of years, sadly I expect it will end up like the PI stuff we have now, that could have been damn near a whole game unto itself, with detailed colony management and development, but instead is something most people spend 5 minutes a week on once setup. Theres allways hope that a couple of things that get hinted at in these sort of videos make it into the game sometime and turn out to actualy be good, maybe one or two things from this one will.
Arcuate Darksiders.	Posted - 2011.03.27 14:23:00 - [48] Edited by: Arcuate on 27/03/2011 14:24:18 Edited by: Arcuate on 27/03/2011 14:23:45 Remember how CCP implemented atmospheric flight from the cool looking video from 5 years ago? Yeah, I don't either.
Serpents smile	Posted - 2011.03.27 15:03:00 - [49] Edited by: Serpents smile on 27/03/2011 15:06:14 Sigh. What a bunch of whiny ****es we have here today on the forums. What part of "vision" as in: 'we' have this idea how things should look like in or heads and if one day 'we' get part A work together with part B, C, D and E, 'we' might* be able to pull this off. But it may take "someÖ" time since, as you are all fully aware, we are in uncharted territory. NO-ONE ever has put this together, so 'we' have to figure it out ourselves, without being able to "borrow" from others who have gone here before. Really if it sux so much, why the frell are you still here? Go away! Leave, fekk off. You don't care you, don't bother, you're bored to death, bugs everywhere. Why do you even bother unless you're some sort of contorted masochist, who likes being in pain. Yes, you may be skeptical. We've seen more stuff that, THUS FAR, never materialized or only arrived in a very minimal borked foeked up state like (PI=lie). But it doesn't mean they (CCP) will not get there. Will it take (lots of) time? Yes! Will they fall flat on their face on the road trying getting there? Absofragginglutely! But somehow, looking at for example the first beta screens and comparing that to what we have now and what is around the corner, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Somehow I think, they will actually get there. I just hope I live long enough.
Hoya en Marland	Posted - 2011.03.27 15:10:00 - [50] Edited by: Hoya en Marland on 27/03/2011 15:11:32 Nice FPS game, looks way more interesting than your internet spaceships tbh. Also I'd expect to see something remotely close to this "vision" in like... 10 years. Probably not made by CCP though.

enterprisePSI Unimatrix 0.1	Posted - 2011.03.27 15:29:00 - [51] I for one, pray the new forums have a block feature, so i can block whiners.
Flynn Fetladral Caldari BlackSite Prophecy	Posted - 2011.03.27 16:20:00 - [52] Originally by: enterprisePSI I for one, pray the new forums have a block feature, so i can block whiners. +1 Follow Flynn on Twitter
Kateryne Minmatar Kat's Discount Weapon Emporium NISYN Inc.	Posted - 2011.03.27 17:24:00 - [53] Edited by: Kateryne on 27/03/2011 17:25:58 Excellent work ccp - your devotion to the integrity of eve's story and setting as a place for us all to enjoy is as always a refreshing breath of fresh air. However as was said, please allow an option on the new forums to flag posts on a personal level as "whine", hiding further posts from said players unless overridden, so the sensible majority of us can browse without rage. Eve is going so well right now and has many great things on the horizon, don't let the naysayers drag you down the road of caving to pressure from a handful of alliances. Good fanfest, if a little packed. Big shout out to all the devs, gm's, isd and white wolf staff who helped make this fanfest the fun event it was, especially ccp Shadow, and ccp Zymergist who put up with my pestering them for live agent missions. Also to everyone who helped secure winmatar overall dominance in the victory point race and ad such being the theme of next years fanfest, especially the 3 other members of the minmatar team in the finals which I had the pleasure of being part of.
Linda Shadowborn Gallente Dark Steel Industries	Posted - 2011.03.27 17:27:00 - [54] Originally by: Serpents smile Edited by: Serpents smile on 27/03/2011 15:06:14 Sigh. What a bunch of whiny *****es we have here today on the forums. Pretty much. People whine way to frakkin much. Dont like it, door that way --->
Cartheron Crust Matari Exodus	Posted - 2011.03.27 17:35:00 - [55] Nice vaporware trailer.
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.27 19:04:00 - [56] Originally by: Zverofaust You should see how fast the fanboys skitter out of the woodwork. Now that's a flash mob. Unabashed Eve (and CCP) fanboi here. ~Gnosis~
Jehosephat Godlittle Gallente The Crane Family	Posted - 2011.03.27 21:13:00 - [57] Originally by: Cartheron Crust Nice vaporware trailer.
Beaudinot Elishah Atavuli	Posted - 2011.03.27 21:46:00 - [58] Playing 2:08-2:09,.. Replaying 2:08-2:09,.. Replaying 2:08-2:09,.. Replaying 2:08-2:09,.. Sauce plz,..
Dogo Duma	Posted - 2011.03.27 22:01:00 - [59] Clear Skies III Trailer. No divide between promises and delivery. Clear presentation. Awesome, and the guy delivers a realistic vision as well as iteration.
Numbskullius	Posted - 2011.03.27 22:51:00 - [60] Originally by: JcJet Blah, blah blah... Blah planetary defence systems. WHAT?!

Cearain Caldari The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION	Posted - 2011.03.27 23:07:00 - [61] Edited by: Cearain on 27/03/2011 23:11:49 That trailer is either very nice or incredibly awesome, depending on what meaning we are to take from it. If that is truly the future of eve that is awesome. That is, if dust may be scrapped and they will just make the first person shooter part of eve itself it will be an amazing future. Go in a spaceship, tank, mech or just run with a gun. Its up to you. And you coodinate operations on one server?? That would indeed be mind blowing. If what I am thinking is indeed true I say that is really awesome. Forget about the consoles just expand the eve universe. Obligatory: But please also fix faction war. -Cearain Make fw pvp not pve http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906&page=1
Gogela Freeport Exploration	Posted - 2011.03.27 23:10:00 - [62] Originally by: Flynn Fetladral Originally by: enterprisePSI I for one, pray the new forums have a block feature, so i can block whiners. +1 +2 "A hungry man will tell you anything if you give him a cookie."
DEFIER ORILIS Amarr DEFIANCE FRENETIC REGIMENT	Posted - 2011.03.28 01:06:00 - [63] What a great vision for EVE. I got a PS3 and a PC, so I feel ready. In the meantime, I will produce some Recursive Computing Module and Nano-Factories. - I am wondering if this will not affect the low-sec part of the New Eden. Will it be a need to be in low-sec? Thx, DEFIER.
Prester Tom	Posted - 2011.03.28 03:36:00 - [64] In the future of eve... there will be no lag?
Florio Versatech Co. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2011.03.28 05:34:00 - [65] Edited by: Florio on 28/03/2011 05:38:02 Couple of points: 1) The video was okey. It didn't make me want to play DUST, the environment in particular was not inspiring. Also the female assassin was a bit characterless and plasticy. I hope CCP will introduce possible shabbiness to incarna avatars. 2) What the video represented was heart warming. Many of us have invested years in this world, and we want to love it and be inspired to play it. The full galaxy-simulation that the video showcased is just what I want and increases my trust in CCP that this is a game into which it is worth investing my precious time. Well done (again) Team CCP! (PS. If the private owners of CCP think about selling out I will campaign to nuke Iceland - having millions in the bank will not make you as content and happy as continuing to create something incredible.)
Caine Demastikus	Posted - 2011.03.28 10:13:00 - [66] Nice video..
MissyDark	Posted - 2011.03.28 10:28:00 - [67] Each fanfest we are shown truly amazing stuff. We get excited, we wait... and we get incursion. So this time I know better. Nice video but it won't happen.
Hannibal Vexor	Posted - 2011.03.28 11:35:00 - [68] Edited by: Hannibal Vexor on 28/03/2011 11:35:38 Video was awsome. Tbh the only part that actually was like Fistpump shouting 'YESS' was the vision of being able to keep up my PVP activities while out of my ship. EvE has always been about never feeling 100% safe. You never know WHEN your going to be blown up and I believe that if, and i say if, multiplayer station interiors does become available then I want to be able to buy a ****ing gun and roam it with my gang the same as i do in space. I know alot of carebears will hate that idea but hey, buy a bigger gun. Lol Hannibal
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives	Posted - 2011.03.28 11:49:00 - [69] It was alright. I'd prefer a bug-free game first, though. ?
Valari Nala Zena Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2011.03.28 12:29:00 - [70] Originally by: Gogela Originally by: Flynn Fetladral Originally by: enterprisePSI I for one, pray the new forums have a block feature, so i can block whiners. +1 +2 +3 - or a dislike button, that automatically minimizes their replies.

djenghis jan Amarr Debiloff	Posted - 2011.03.28 12:31:00 - [71] The scale of the fleet in orbit was really large, i am wondering what the scale would be for this to be realized. Perhaps it will be an alliance or faction warfare thing in stead of a more small group thing. Personally i would be happy if i could leave my ship and enter drifting ships in a first person mode, to explore or find technology. Something like the ruin ring in The Reality Dysfunction by Peter F. Hamilton. This could be done using local computing instead of the lag fest that the large scale stuff would be. dj
Bhattran	Posted - 2011.03.28 14:35:00 - [72] Very nice marketing/hype video, I'm sure it will fuel hope that it will come to pass soon in the newbies who don't know any better. I especially liked the music, it had a Resident Evil feel to it. --WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.--
Kashimir Otoko no Baito	Posted - 2011.03.28 14:55:00 - [73] Originally by: Bumblefck It was alright. I'd prefer a bug-free game first, though. Bugs are like cancer. Proves you're still evolving :)
Marija Vanszar Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.03.28 18:49:00 - [74] I like it, after we can blow up Dust people, we can do this: WATCH: Nuke it from Orbit
Eliyana Detna	Posted - 2011.03.28 19:25:00 - [75] [Long version] (see further down for the TLDR) First I wanna say I really liked the video. I attended FanFest this year, and it was shown twice in a row, since every1 attending cheered and whistled till they showed it again. So no question about this. Then we were asked to show this video to our friends, spread it through forums, facebook etc etc. And I was going No. I wont do that. I will _not_ show this to my friends. Why, you might ask? Simply because EvE is nowhere near what the video is showing. And it wont be for at least a year, two years, longer time? No1 knows. Anyhow, imagine a potential new player. He tried WoW perhaps, didn't like it. Maybe he is playing some Guildwars, I dunno. Anyway, he checks youtube and finds this video. He is blown away (of course) and signs an account, how long does it take for him to be disappointed do you think? If the same potential player looks around, finds EvE through some other means and tries it out without seeing all these promises, maybe he at least sticks around, getting killed, getting scammed, learns the game and actually enjoys it, like I'm sure most of us did back through the years. Thats the danger of giving to high promises. Do you think that in the first scenario, where he quits EvE in frustration that once he was promised isn't coming soon, the player will try EvE again? Or will he remember CCP for the promises made and that they couldnt deliver? I'm not saying I know how people are. I know how I am, and for my own part, seeing that video would have made me drop the game after trying it. CCP would not have gotten these years out of me, which would have been a shame because it has been really nice and more are coming. I liked the video, I love this game, I know CCP takes its pride in making things take their time, to make them better. But I have been here for 5 years now. Dont expect the same out of a month-old new player. [TLDR] : Video is really really nice, but false promises are bad if you want new players staying more than a month or two and then leave because they become disappointed.
Amras Arnatuile Element 115. Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.03.28 19:44:00 - [76] I saw in the video a moros blasting ground troops from orbit. Will my moros be able to track that well? All I know currently I can't even hit a BS with it. Cool vid though
Haleuth Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2011.03.28 21:27:00 - [77] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist At each EVE Fanfest we like to fill you full of bull since you traveled so far and are so gullible. This year we expand the FMV lies even further with more stuff you aint ever going to be able to do. Make sure every noob you know thinks thats what is really coming. Missed it on the live stream? Want to see it again? Head to our YouTube page. Fixed that for you Having watched many CCP FMV fairy tale vids over the years i got a couple of questions. 1. Will there be in station combat? i.e when a target wont undock i can goto the station salon/barbers/turkish bath and shoot the back of his skull in just like in the video your showing? You sure you wont introduce this feature then backpedal once all the carebears/CCP staff start whining to much because theres nobody to hold their hand? 2. Will we be able to use dreads to nuke people on planets? so your going to allow dreads in high sec or is that 0.0/low sec feature only? Sorry to be so negative but i was one of the people who watched the video many years ago of a crow interceptor flying into the atmosphere of a planet and was lead to believe that was future gameplay. Instead we get dusty bin 445 which cant be played on a pc. I also watched with interest the mining revamp/upgrade video, you know the one where theres 2 geeks talking for 30 minutes about how there going to bring the "gold rush" feeling back to mining. Instead the game becomes full of mining bots. I could go on. Seems more and more that CCP are not giving its customers what they really want which is more ships, more t3 ships, the introduction of t3 mods and ammo, formation flying (oops i forgot that ones coming ), overview revamp to compansate for larger monitors. Instead we get PI, character face change with 10 choices, walk in stations but not your ship, captains quarters in stations but not in ships. Next fanfest change your name to yohan, grab yourself a guitar and sing a jackonory on stage-same effect. Haleuth
Schwester Minotaur	Posted - 2011.03.29 01:35:00 - [78] Thanks for this video. But i have some questions. Us as Eve Users, we are important to the dust players, but otherwise ? I start my thoughts, how Dust can work with Eve together. I got some possible Options for that. - Dust Players opens a new Market to EVE. EVE Players can hire DUST Players for money, no discussion. DUST Players technically start as Space Marine, try to be the Mercs for Hire. OK he finished some "Jobs" (maybe in highsec) (stealing some materials from a Storage on Planet) - he earns money (not that much (maybe 1 Million max)) - but anyhow, he grinds and he later can create a "Mercs Corp", like in EVE they are growing (or not). After that they are buying a War Barge (Who is flying this barge ?). They upgrade to tanks and so on. Its becomse more tactical. Ok this is the DUST Side. BUT ! Do a EVE Player is really intersted if 2 or 3 Mercs are stealing 100k Noble Metals ? Do the player care about that ? Well this loss - he earns with a single Belt Rat ! I dont think that work so. BUT ! There are many solution to get EVE Players more Interact with DUST Players (only thoughts !) - new material - produced by DUST Players (maybe DUST Players go working in a Coal Mine ;) ?) - Borders (wich means, Planetary Interaction can only be builded at space , claimed by DUST Players ?) Then next point... do the DUST Players have to pay a monthly fee ? (CCP - if you try this, this can hardly go wrong for ya !) If you think about a monthly fee, give the DUST Players a chance to play for free, using ISK. (Wich should be a nice option). I am sure, u want to keep your thinkings secret. But CCP, don't you think, we should work "together" on that behavior ? Greetings
EndUser License Agreement	Posted - 2011.03.29 01:37:00 - [79] Originally by: Valari Nala Zena Originally by: Gogela Originally by: Flynn Fetladral Originally by: enterprisePSI I for one, pray the new forums have a block feature, so i can block whiners. +1 +2 +3 - or a dislike button, that automatically minimizes their replies. +4
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2011.03.29 03:25:00 - [80] Originally by: Haleuth Fixed that for you Careful with 'fixing' devposts, that can land you a forum perma-ban for misrepresenting CCP statements.

Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.03.29 05:08:00 - [81] What, if any, relation does this have to what CCP is actually planning to release? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Rob Crowley State War Academy	Posted - 2011.03.29 09:22:00 - [82] What I take from this video is that SiS (shooting in stations) will be released soonÖ. Holding my breath right now...
567567	Posted - 2011.03.29 11:05:00 - [83] Originally by: enterprisePSI I for one, pray the new forums have a block feature, so i can block whiners. Even better would be a brown nose filter.
Johnnyan Caldari Johnnyan Inc.	Posted - 2011.03.29 18:17:00 - [84] So, uhm, the video was pretty cool, using that "Forever" at the end was not...
Calathea Sata	Posted - 2011.03.29 19:52:00 - [85] EVE is officially gone past its peak is will only go downhill from this point. "Forever" indicates they can't think of anything worth mentioning about the game itself.
Kievan Ariskana Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.29 21:53:00 - [86] Dont know if shooting planetary targets with your dread is a future feature but if you want those freighters (auto)piloting in/out you should really reconsider the anomaly-nerf.
Sassums Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.29 22:06:00 - [87] Can someone explain what we were actually looking at? Was it the full integration of Eve with that new console game?
Internet White Knight	Posted - 2011.03.29 23:17:00 - [88] I wanna kill xbox 'tards from orbit too. In fact, if someone gets those guys in to destroy my PI installs, I'll gladly flatten the entire facility myself if it gives me a chance to hear them whine.
Sisohiv Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2011.03.30 04:59:00 - [89] It's a nice trailer and I am looking forward to the FRAPS sessions but gameplay wise, no trailer ever made for this game had a hint of reality in it.
Alpheias Euphoria Released	Posted - 2011.03.30 07:42:00 - [90] Originally by: Sisohiv It's a nice trailer and I am looking forward to the FRAPS sessions but gameplay wise, no trailer ever made for this game had a hint of reality in it. Nor was the trailers never meant to. They were meant to sell the vision and the concept. A movie trailer is about hooking your interest. Same with video game trailers. Nothing else. ♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/

Skippermonkey Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.03.30 11:30:00 - [91] Originally by: Sisohiv It's a nice trailer and I am looking forward to the FRAPS sessions but gameplay wise, no trailer ever made for this game had a hint of reality in it. I GOT SCAMMED BY DEVS ON THE PUBCRAWL where was the hßkarl?
Connor Sheen	Posted - 2011.03.30 11:57:00 - [92] Can't wait to start playing the game as is in the video.
Hakaru Ishiwara Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.03.30 13:48:00 - [93] Nice video. I truly liked it. But CCP's track record for delivering anything that remotely resembles marketing of future material is, well, terrible.
Geralden	Posted - 2011.03.30 14:18:00 - [94] Remember how wonderfull PI looked in the presentation videos ? Compare it to the crap we got now ? Yea.. it's proberly going to be "execute planetary bombardment" from the science overview.... and a little GIF animation to show if it hit or not.
Shepard Book	Posted - 2011.03.30 15:49:00 - [95] Edited by: Shepard Book on 30/03/2011 15:53:03 I am happy with the overall vision as vague as it is. Looks like your listening to things we may want. 1)Being able to use dreads for planetary bombardment perhaps? Yes dreads are a joke now. 2)In station combat There are a few concerns though. BLACKOPS!?! 1)Nerfing 0.0 anoms 2)buffing highsec by removing quality from agents. I realize a big percentage is care bears but dang. 3)focus on new features for highsec instead of lowsec ( contraband )Do you seriously want low sec to ever grow? I realize incursions maybe have helped a little but that is still universe wide. LOW sec is still there but barren... 4) Is faction warfare the way you want it? 5) taking away insurance from suicide ganking. Do you really want no PvP in highsec except for F.W and wardecs that can be avoided by NPC corps? What happened to the corruption idea for lowsec? I like the idea of working on the smaller things but please pay more attention to what we as players voted for through CSM last year and prioritized for you.
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.03.30 21:36:00 - [96] Originally by: Shepard Book 1)Nerfing 0.0 anoms 2)buffing highsec by removing quality from agents. I realize a big percentage is care bears but dang. Originally by: Leonard Church No matter how bad things might seem, they can't be any better, they can't be any worse, because that's the way things **in' are and you better get used to it Nancy, quit yer **in'" you dont deserve that name... -------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie*
Krasnij Okjabre the united	Posted - 2011.03.30 22:57:00 - [97] I saw this at FF... It was and still is beautiful it also got a standing ovation and an encore. To all the naysayers... it was amazing and if this is a future vision, CCP has (and always has had) my loyalty. No one said it'd happen next week. Hence 'Future' - Hilmar made no mention of timescales. Given the rate technology moves, it could get even better and arrive even sooner. You (and I) will just have to wait and see. Given that some people were whining about removal of shader model 2.0 (an antique in PC terms) recently I suggest you take a chill pill and see what happens in coming weeks/months. There are many other MMO's out there that do not have such close interaction with their respective communities. I suggest if you don't like what CCP do, then quit. Then come back in 1 maybe 2 years time when you have seen what they have done. I am not a Fanboi by any means but having spoken firsthand to many Devs in the last few days, I suggest you give them a break. Patience, Padawans. Kras.
Sisohiv Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2011.03.31 05:30:00 - [98] Originally by: Alpheias Originally by: Sisohiv It's a nice trailer and I am looking forward to the FRAPS sessions but gameplay wise, no trailer ever made for this game had a hint of reality in it. Nor was the trailers never meant to. They were meant to sell the vision and the concept. A movie trailer is about hooking your interest. Same with video game trailers. Nothing else. I think the trailers are a vision of what CCP want EvE to be. I'm not looking at the mechanics and the features. I'm looking at the short story. Like a few others I saw, the theme is the same. The Individual matters, there are consequences, honor is important in EvE. That's not really the case. Corp thieves and scammers flourish in EvE. Deception is rewarded and honor is a weakness. The only way to beat people like this is to do what they do only better. CCP don't seem to want that though. They just havent figured out how to change it and not unbalance the game and break it. Concord LP is a start to that I think. While Concord LP doesn't deal with scammers and corp thieves, they do seem to be looking for something.
Sandrestal	Posted - 2011.03.31 13:33:00 - [99] I, for one, am so looking forward to all the new and fancy lag.
Flibertygibbet	Posted - 2011.03.31 13:36:00 - [100] Im looking forward to a mostly empty nullsec, and an empire bursting at the seams with mission runners thanks to the well thought out ideas of greyscale.

Swynet	Posted - 2011.03.31 14:34:00 - [101] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist At each EVE Fanfest we share our future visions for EVE. This year we expand it a bit further into where we are headed with the EVE Universe--with a forward-looking video. Missed it on the live stream? Want to see it again? Head to our YouTube page. It's something really awesome and certainly the one that would make me keep my accounts active because ATM it's horribly boring trying to play the game with lag stuff, broken/not working stuff, waiting hundreds days of skills to do what you want in the game expecting that stuff will not be more broken than it is right now or just doing this exciting activity like ice mining -just like many others-. Any way, very nice vid, love it. ________________________________________________ Originally by: Goose99 In EVE, PVE can happen anywhere, anytime. Whenever you undock, you subject yourself to involuntary PVE.
Raiden Thor	Posted - 2011.03.31 15:14:00 - [102] If you guys were looking for a marketing idea...judging by the "future" video... I would NOT call this a game of the future, i would call it fully emersing yourself into an exciting world and becoming part of the Eve universe, not just playing a game from the outside....Looking forward to ALL the advancements and hopes described at recent Fanfest. Keep up the great work, you have mine and many others full support to make this a ground breaking experience for players.
J'Torr Kitano Caldari ZiiP Empire	Posted - 2011.03.31 17:09:00 - [103] What a lol-fest that video is! Apart from the 'shiny-shiny' of walking in stations (bothered) there is no change on the horizon. All this video says to me is 'if you kinda like Eve, why don't you stick around for a few more years and see what we do with it? Here are some guesses we're making!' and apart from that frankly, it's just an ad for Dust 514. Dust 514 is coming, but it's nothing more than a console FPS, and one which won't be BF 3 or Brink and nothing accomplished on that game will reflect in the Eve Universe. Yeah, I know the concept is that you're "hiring mercs to take a base/planet for you", but that's blatantly nonsens. As if some guy is sat in front of his PS3/X-Box waiting for your contract, lol. It'll be 50/50 which side wins, as all these things are and if that's the case, who in their right mind is going to invest anything in the outcome? I suppose with PI being so much fun... As far as I'm aware it's an FPS in the Eve Universe, but all it does is share fluff. The engine for running the 'Walking In Stations' stuff is basically a testbed for CCPs forthcoming 'Vampire: World of Darkness' and I can't see that aspect affecting the running of the game. what means 'isk per hour' anyway...?
Bhattran	Posted - 2011.03.31 17:13:00 - [104] Originally by: Krasnij Okjabre I saw this at FF... It was and still is beautiful it also got a standing ovation and an encore. To all the naysayers... it was amazing and if this is a future vision, CCP has (and always has had) my loyalty. No one said it'd happen next week. Hence 'Future' - Hilmar made no mention of timescales. Given the rate technology moves, it could get even better and arrive even sooner. You (and I) will just have to wait and see. Given that some people were whining about removal of shader model 2.0 (an antique in PC terms) recently I suggest you take a chill pill and see what happens in coming weeks/months. There are many other MMO's out there that do not have such close interaction with their respective communities. I suggest if you don't like what CCP do, then quit. Then come back in 1 maybe 2 years time when you have seen what they have done. I am not a Fanboi by any means but having spoken firsthand to many Devs in the last few days, I suggest you give them a break. Patience, Padawans. Kras. FYI, I underlined the bit that makes you a fanboi. Beyond that the coming weeks and months will see the CQ as the next expansion, along with some more incarna content likely more hair, clothing, etc and tattoos, piercings, maybe some iteration on one of a thousand things languishing in New Eden. --WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.--
Krasnij Okjabre the united	Posted - 2011.03.31 19:55:00 - [105] Originally by: Bhattran Originally by: Krasnij Okjabre I saw this at FF... It was and still is beautiful it also got a standing ovation and an encore. To all the naysayers... it was amazing and if this is a future vision, CCP has (and always has had) my loyalty. No one said it'd happen next week. Hence 'Future' - Hilmar made no mention of timescales. Given the rate technology moves, it could get even better and arrive even sooner. You (and I) will just have to wait and see. Given that some people were whining about removal of shader model 2.0 (an antique in PC terms) recently I suggest you take a chill pill and see what happens in coming weeks/months. There are many other MMO's out there that do not have such close interaction with their respective communities. I suggest if you don't like what CCP do, then quit. Then come back in 1 maybe 2 years time when you have seen what they have done. I am not a Fanboi by any means but having spoken firsthand to many Devs in the last few days, I suggest you give them a break. Patience, Padawans. Kras. FYI, I underlined the bit that makes you a fanboi. Beyond that the coming weeks and months will see the CQ as the next expansion, along with some more incarna content likely more hair, clothing, etc and tattoos, piercings, maybe some iteration on one of a thousand things languishing in New Eden. Your opinion has been duly noted. And FYI - It remains unimportant to me. But whatever. Thanks for reading. Kras.
Cletus Graeme Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.04.01 08:52:00 - [106] Originally by: Alpheias Originally by: Sisohiv It's a nice trailer and I am looking forward to the FRAPS sessions but gameplay wise, no trailer ever made for this game had a hint of reality in it. Nor was the trailers never meant to. They were meant to sell the vision and the concept. A movie trailer is about hooking your interest. Same with video game trailers. Nothing else. The original EvE trailers only featured in game content. It was one of the many things that made the game especially innovative and differentiated it from others. Sadly somewhere along the line CCP decided this wasn't enough and started adding oog content. With successive trailers this content has moved further and further away from the way the game actual plays until now they're really just eye candy. I no longer look forward to them and am rarely impressed anymore. The fact the originals were made purely from actual gameplay not only sold the product but also forced the trailer makers to be artistic and creative within the confines of the actual game. The game effectively sold itself. Check out Eve Never Fades from 2006 as a good example.
Alpheias Euphoria Released	Posted - 2011.04.01 08:59:00 - [107] Originally by: Sisohiv Originally by: Alpheias Originally by: Sisohiv It's a nice trailer and I am looking forward to the FRAPS sessions but gameplay wise, no trailer ever made for this game had a hint of reality in it. Nor was the trailers never meant to. They were meant to sell the vision and the concept. A movie trailer is about hooking your interest. Same with video game trailers. Nothing else. I think the trailers are a vision of what CCP want EvE to be. I'm not looking at the mechanics and the features. I'm looking at the short story. Like a few others I saw, the theme is the same. The Individual matters, there are consequences, honor is important in EvE. That's not really the case. Corp thieves and scammers flourish in EvE. Deception is rewarded and honor is a weakness. The only way to beat people like this is to do what they do only better. CCP don't seem to want that though. They just havent figured out how to change it and not unbalance the game and break it. Concord LP is a start to that I think. While Concord LP doesn't deal with scammers and corp thieves, they do seem to be looking for something. I think you are reading too much into it then, I doubt CCP envisioned EVE as a good versus evil, or honorable versus dishonorable, kind of game. It is more likeable that they imagined EVE to be more Elite-esque where players could be traders, pirates, bounty hunters or explorers. The morality, or the lack of it, is what the players have brought into it and it is what separates EVE from the rest in the MMO genre. And CCP deserve a medal for not meddling with it. ♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/
Diesel47	Posted - 2011.04.01 12:45:00 - [108] Edited by: Diesel47 on 01/04/2011 12:45:36 Can we have this like tomorrow?
Alpheias Euphoria Released	Posted - 2011.04.01 14:00:00 - [109] Originally by: Cletus Graeme Originally by: Alpheias Originally by: Sisohiv It's a nice trailer and I am looking forward to the FRAPS sessions but gameplay wise, no trailer ever made for this game had a hint of reality in it. Nor was the trailers never meant to. They were meant to sell the vision and the concept. A movie trailer is about hooking your interest. Same with video game trailers. Nothing else. The original EvE trailers only featured in game content. It was one of the many things that made the game especially innovative and differentiated it from others. Sadly somewhere along the line CCP decided this wasn't enough and started adding oog content. With successive trailers this content has moved further and further away from the way the game actual plays until now they're really just eye candy. I no longer look forward to them and am rarely impressed anymore. The fact the originals were made purely from actual gameplay not only sold the product but also forced the trailer makers to be artistic and creative within the confines of the actual game. The game effectively sold itself. Check out Eve Never Fades from 2006 as a good example. I am not disagreeing with you, but I am not agreeing with you either because the older trailers didn't really show anything innovative and different either when you can categorize them into trailers about stuff added to the game, story telling & lore and technology. But I agree with you that the newer trailers are more about reeling you in than show off EVE in its glory. EVE Never Fades is a special case, personally I find it more to be along the lines of being a piece of art using EVE as its locomotion. ♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/
Ioci Gallente Morrigna Order	Posted - 2011.04.02 09:57:00 - [110] EVE Online - A Future Vision

Selinate Amarr Red Water Syndicate	Posted - 2011.04.03 14:18:00 - [111] so we will get guns in station in the future? BAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA I will love to see this day.
The R00k	Posted - 2011.04.03 20:53:00 - [112] I have used my 4 hour plex allowance to come post this on here because I felt so strongly about it. I have not played in 6 months. I played for years. And I have to say this trailer is lovely. But here are a few things I would rather see: 1.Removal of Pos Shields you can run into every time some one with a big stick comes by. 2.Removal of off-line pos after 30day or some mechanic to address offline pos. 3. afk empire living in npc stations. 4. Travel (jump bridges over used. warp bubbles over powered preventing normal travel.) And I will point out to every one. This Trailer's Vision shares something profound with CCP's April fools joke about mounts. Both are as plausible and frankly at this point the outsider would say that mounts are more Fin likely than in station pvp. Planetary bombardment from EVE onto Dust players and or Either of these ideas happening before 2015. I use to love this game. But frankly issues get ignored for years and the Eve veteran community gets more and more bitter as time goes on. I Find less and less ex-players who have positive things to say. And that's sad. And you may think who cares. Well that is the point. All the people who have quit have no voice. So for every supporter active you could have 10 people who have left. And this is the problem with every mmo. When they start to die they make changes their active players put forward. Not Goto the people who have left and ask how they can get them back.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.04.04 05:46:00 - [113] just wanted to add how excited I am for this. Everyone that see it is like "omg hat game is that?" and when they find out it's eve they get really impressed that a 7 year old mmo would set such high goals.
Jhagiti Tyran Caldari Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns	Posted - 2011.04.04 06:11:00 - [114] Nice trailer but a terrible shame it will never be a single integrated game and will be spread across two platforms, and Dust will probably die after the next new shiny console FPS comes out.
Fawcks Avoid and Evade	Posted - 2011.04.04 08:32:00 - [115] Originally by: Fat Freddy Remember folks, this is a "vision of the future". I went to Fanfest in 2008, it was really good and I would love to go again sometime. While there CCP showed a video of their "vision of the future" it showed the captains quarters, and the inside of the station, with the idea that you could rent shop and office space. This was 3 years ago! and we are still waiting, there were quite a few "visions" shown that weekend, and most of them found their way into game in some form or another. Epic mission arcs was the one I remember best (being a carebear) they were introducing not only a new set of missions, but a framework that would allow mission creation to be really easy and much better than the current system, it would allow endless variation... in the end we got 4 missions out of that and nothing more. I only cite this example to throw this awesome video into perspective. TL;DR Take with a pinch of salt Fred Hopefully this current vision will be accurate and timely.
Maplestone	Posted - 2011.04.05 05:10:00 - [116] What sec level does one imagine that video representing? Are there any qualitative differences in the visions of where highsec/lowsec/nullsec are going, or like rats, is the concept to have all sectors of space be awash with mercs, just at different scales of numbers and armaments?
El'Niaga Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.04.06 10:22:00 - [117] Eye candy at best. I don't believe they'll ever let you planet bombard and thus grief their console players...
Rek Seven Gallente Guy Fawkes Trust Fund	Posted - 2011.04.06 16:24:00 - [118] Originally by: CCP Zymurgist At each EVE Fanfest we share our future visions for EVE. This year we expand it a bit further into where we are headed with the EVE Universe--with a forward-looking video. Missed it on the live stream? Want to see it again? Head to our YouTube page. The video was cool and all but i hate when developers release CGI trailers that do not represent their game. The trailer suggests: 1. Dust will be a 3rd person shooter 2. There will be voice communication between eve and dust player 3. There will be combat in stations 4. Eve players will be able to double cross dust players If all the above were true the game would be amazing but from what IÆm hearing, we will be lucky to get combat in stations.
Sylthi Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic Holy Empire of The Unshaven	Posted - 2011.04.11 00:09:00 - [119] Originally by: Valari Nala Zena Originally by: Gogela Originally by: Flynn Fetladral Originally by: enterprisePSI I for one, pray the new forums have a block feature, so i can block whiners. +1 +2 +3 - or a dislike button, that automatically minimizes their replies. So, I'm confused. Do you guys want the anti-whine feature immediately in the old forums, as in the ones we are all having to post in now? Because, CCP obviously can't handle a project that any junior high kid with half a brain can and get a new set of forums working, even after *MULTIPLE* live tests? Or, are you wanting the button in the NEW Forums that the programming challenged devs are bringing to us SOON(tm)? Just wanting a little clarification on that...... And yes, even after you made the "whiner's" point for them, I bet you guys still can't accept the fact that CCP suck and never deliver on the scope of their promises, huh? * *
Eclorc	Posted - 2011.04.11 11:20:00 - [120] Planetary bombardment could very easily be made to happen, and fit in well with the way FPS games already play online. How many times have you played a character that calls an airstrike? This was one of the useful weapons for any team in, for example, Frontlines where a specialist would call in an airstrike, which was limited in number and frequency of use. If airstrike calls from the ground give pilot in space targeting information (without which the pilot cant shoot), then not only do the groundforces WANT it to happen, but if there HAS to be a real ship up in space to perform the strike then the Dusties will WANT eve players to be involved to perform that service for them. Defending the space above a planet "achieving space superiority" could become a key ingredient in the success of Dust integration imo, and make the Eve side more involved in the battle too. You wanna hurt alliance A? Go pew their ships and planets, hirting mercs for the gruntwork. Will be intersting to see if this model could have a positive effect on soverignty perhaps?

Calathea Sata State War Academy	Posted - 2011.04.11 12:52:00 - [121] There is no future for EVE. EVE is dead.
CelticRanger Gallente Association of Commonwealth Enterprises R.A.G.E	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:29:00 - [122] Got a question! at the beginning of the video the main character is looking out of a window at a station, is he inside a ship? If so does that mean we will be able to walk about or at least see inside our ships?
Rek Seven Gallente Guy Fawkes Trust Fund	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:51:00 - [123] Originally by: CelticRanger Got a question! at the beginning of the video the main character is looking out of a window at a station, is he inside a ship? If so does that mean we will be able to walk about or at least see inside our ships? No, he's in a station.
Chesty McJubblies Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2011.04.15 11:30:00 - [124] Originally by: Sandrestal I, for one, am so looking forward to all the new and fancy lag. They are currently developing ways to make it even better. ---------------------------------------- Looking for a good system, or area, to AFK Cloak. PM me with infos, or if you want a partner to be AFK with.


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