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Cory Sopapilla
Minmatar
Kiroshi Group
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Posted - 2011.03.29 16:16:00 -
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 Originally by: baltec1
You can see the milky way with the naked eye if you move to the middle of the south pacific.
You can see it from central Texas if you're away from the city lights. It's amazing how many people don't even realize you can see it. Hell, most people think Orion is the big dipper.
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the plague
Anthraxus Defense Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.03.29 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rebecca Aventine
Additionally images of these objects are either taken using colour sensitive film or are false colour composites of specific wave lengths. To the naked eye, the low illuminance of these objects means they appear de-saturated to point of being grey.
That much is true. These objects will generally appear as gray color when observing them through a scope. There are some nice filters on the market which do wonders to bring out the detail with a large enough scope, but it's still not possible to view these objects the way they appear in those astrophotography images. They're just too distant.
But the basic concept that CCP is onto is not wrong. They're just assuming the local system you're in lies within a very active planetary nebulae. We don't really know for sure what the view would look like from inside one of those, so CCP's efforts fall into the realm of artistic interpretation. But to me they seem like a very reasonable interpretation.
All that said, it's probably true that there should be at least some parts of New Eden where space is mostly black because all the celestial objects are so distant. And perhaps that's exactly what CCP intends to do. They never said every single system would have a planetary nebulae as a background. I just hope they come up with some really distinct backgrounds in certain systems, because as you can see from the shots I linked to above, nebulae can have a very recognizable and beautiful structure and not just look like some random clouds of gas.
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Mel Lifera
Gallente
Ambrye Logistics Ltd.
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Posted - 2011.03.29 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: the plague
It's entirely reasonable. Here are some nebulae shots taken by Robert Gendler from his driveway using amateur astronomy equipment. They speak for themselves.
http://www.robgendlerastropics.com/Einstein.html
Just look at this stunning image of M16, The Eagle Nebula, and then tell me space is empty.
http://www.robgendlerastropics.com/M16-BYU.html
Space is very empty. You're taking a focused blow-up image of a teeny-tiny speck of the night sky - we're talking less than ten arcminutes across - and claiming it justifies tremendous naked-eye background images of huge nebulae wrapped around every single star system in New Eden. Except it doesn't. Most stars in our galaxy by far with mature planetary systems (like the ones we fly around in EVE) would have views very much like Earth's - all the spectacular-looking stuff takes up comparatively few pixels in a sea of black. In fact, for stars that are closer to the nebulae themselves, many of them would have a worse view because all those neat nebula structures aren't solid - they're formed by gases and only relatively "concentrated" dust clouds that are less visibly tangible the closer you get to them, and only look striking to us because we're far enough away.
Great nebula backgrounds look awesome, but let's not pretend they're scientifically supported.
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Ranger 1
Amarr
Paragon Fury
Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.03.29 23:22:00 -
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I don't believe the Hubble shots are retouched in any way (though I could be wrong). Yes, we are looking at close ups, long exposure, specialized films/lenses/filters... but nothing that wouldn't be readily available to the camera drones we all supposedly view the universe of EVE through.
The last time I flew relatively close to a large Nebula it looked pretty similar, how about you? 
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Posted - 2011.03.30 00:07:00 -
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"I don't believe the Hubble shots are retouched in any way (though I could be wrong)"
then you completely contradict yourself:
"Yes, we are looking at close ups, long exposure, specialized films/lenses/filters..."
Get yourself straight.
BTW nebulae won't appear to a human eye from all sorts of angles of space as a big ole' colorful cloud, not by a long shot, but you could possibly see true color in rarefied circumstances of position. NASA planetary photoes are INSANELY colored by mass-density and temperature. I wouldnt for a second believe that all Hubble photos were just any old shot taken at any time of a nebula. And that's not what you would see with your own eye at any old time, either.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.03.30 19:12:00 -
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Ever seen a wide angle from hubble with no zoom, SPACE is effing crowded with alot of lights, most of it galaxies.
Hubble Star Field snapshot
Funnier story about this picture they focused on a square inch for a month on the acutal photo and found more light sources in that square inch than the rest of the photo had.
The enchanced colorization some photos use is actually there and do exist, provided by invisible light specturm such as infrared xrays and radio waves and the sorts. Space contrary to belife is extremly noisy and not empty (your static TV channels pick alot of this up here on earth) However most of these published picutres are usually taken in only one of the said specturms for best effect of presentation rather than scientific presenation which hubble users would have alternative copies of.
This doesnt however apply too well with photos that cover the entire visibil light colors and are likely natural light.
Our own galaxy is a golden greenish color according to the massive terra-pixel image of our own night sky provided by microsoft and partners. Adromeda a bluish color.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.03.30 19:17:00 -
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and another example of your accused artifical coloring.
Carina Nebula, Visible(top) vs Infrared(bottom)
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Zirse
Minmatar
ZED Industries
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Posted - 2011.03.31 01:02:00 -
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Edited by: Zirse on 31/03/2011 01:06:04
They are doing exactly this! Dynamic star backgrounds!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzKCVs7Z8XY#t=16m23s
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