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Garrad	Posted - 2005.02.04 21:05:00 - [1] I have a cruiser and a cargo hold full of missiles, now I'd like to go hunt some other player, perhaps ransome some miners or go head to head with any Frigs that are wandering through .4 space on a mission. Trouble is I am having trouble tracking people down... I can see where they are in space (amount of players in space glow ball thing) but there seems to be no way of finding just whereaboust in that system thay actually are... Tips anyone?
Bawldeux IV	Posted - 2005.02.04 21:23:00 - [2] -low sec space or 0.0 space (no sec hit there) -warp from belt to belt, (make bm's ahead of time for better positions) -keesy loaded with missles is a better ship to start with, but make sure you have clones and insurence (max) so your ship loss later wont be too bad. -be ready to lose a few ships, have a few corps hunting YOU, and loads of smack talking kiddies making threats,once you go down this path. buy ship buy gear hunt kill ppl ???? profit it's easy!!!! enjoy!! ::::::::::::::::::::::::: >>...wanna cookie?<< :::::::::::::::::::::::::
RollinDutchMasters	Posted - 2005.02.04 21:48:00 - [3] Next to your shields/armor/structure display there is a little radar-screen looking button. This opens up the system scanner. Learn to use the range and directional features of this scanner to quickly isolate the location of any ships in the system. Do not warp from belt to belt, because thats never ever going to get you kills once you get a bit of a negitive sec status. People will see you in local and just safespot within minutes. Also, it is a safe assumption that at least half of all cruisers/battleships in low-sec belts have 2 WCS. Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
Martin Law	Posted - 2005.02.04 22:35:00 - [4] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=83133
DARKKK	Posted - 2005.02.04 23:23:00 - [5] i just wonder, are you in bb or carcal? If in caracal you will die agains anyone that does not have int -10, cause with all jamming gear you wont be able to tank anything and no tank => u die against just anything exept t1 frig. Only way to fing someone is either on gate, station or belts. But since you cannot tank sentries in cruiser belts are only option...
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2005.02.05 00:14:00 - [6] Just be prepared to lose a lot of ships from the getgo, and if you are planning to actually make money off PVPing/Pirating, few ever do. BAsically what I am saying is, your going to get your butt kicked a ton, but as long as you stick with it, you'll be doing the buttkicking with the lessons learned along the way. ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..
starfox2004	Posted - 2005.02.05 09:08:00 - [7] Edited by: starfox2004 on 05/02/2005 09:08:45 If you want to kill something then convo me ingame you can try me for free ! frig vs you in whatever ! either way its a good way to learn win or lose ! you win: your first pvp kill ever you lose: you will know a little bit more ! Happy to help !
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.02.05 09:36:00 - [8] I would recomend unless you'r an alt to 1st have good isk suply and acces to NPC BS's(and be able to kill them) to fix your sec status B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.02.05 09:37:00 - [9] Originally by: Aerick Dawn Just be prepared to lose a lot of ships from the getgo, and if you are planning to actually make money off PVPing/Pirating, few ever do. you kidding, PvP gives lots and lots of isk B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Garrad	Posted - 2005.02.05 11:01:00 - [10] So it looks like I really need to wait until I am BS equiped before I go down this line... Read the TFT document on PVP. That was cool, but I gather not up to date yet. Tried using the scanner, but it brings up nothing even though themap says there are players in space. User error I know, but where... In the meantime I am in .4 space hunting the belts for anyone who looks like a viable target and while I am there I kill the NPC pirates who in .4 space give a reasonable good cash reward and some pretty naff loot. I've only had one PVP experince (I wont count gate ganking because it was over before I even knew it had started >me dead) and that was in a belt, I was snooping around and this Frig just attacked me... So I locked on and blew him up... I got the taste for it then... But I know this player was a noob and he attacked me, probably for a laugh. Next time I probably wont be so lucky... So, are there any Pirate corps that are worth joining? I mean ones that have mature players and not players who would shoot me when they get bored...

Shin Ra	Posted - 2005.02.05 11:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Garrad So it looks like I really need to wait until I am BS equiped before I go down this line... Read the TFT document on PVP. That was cool, but I gather not up to date yet. Tried using the scanner, but it brings up nothing even though themap says there are players in space. User error I know, but where... In the meantime I am in .4 space hunting the belts for anyone who looks like a viable target and while I am there I kill the NPC pirates who in .4 space give a reasonable good cash reward and some pretty naff loot. I've only had one PVP experince (I wont count gate ganking because it was over before I even knew it had started >me dead) and that was in a belt, I was snooping around and this Frig just attacked me... So I locked on and blew him up... I got the taste for it then... But I know this player was a noob and he attacked me, probably for a laugh. Next time I probably wont be so lucky... So, are there any Pirate corps that are worth joining? I mean ones that have mature players and not players who would shoot me when they get bored... Thats compeletly false. You do not need a bs to pirate. A Blackbird or a Ferox are great for pirating. If you can use electronic warfare properly, there will be no need to tank. Your best bet is to have a loot around for pirate corporations and join one. They will often hunt together with you and teach you the basics. The whole Battleship is everything in EvE is totally false in everything, except probably fleet battles. You don't need one to fight, and more importantly if you don't know what your doing, don't bother getting in one as you will just loose it. ----------------------------------------- Heinky> Dont mix eve with rl it can be bad for your health
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.02.05 11:08:00 - [12] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: Garrad So it looks like I really need to wait until I am BS equiped before I go down this line... Read the TFT document on PVP. That was cool, but I gather not up to date yet. Tried using the scanner, but it brings up nothing even though themap says there are players in space. User error I know, but where... In the meantime I am in .4 space hunting the belts for anyone who looks like a viable target and while I am there I kill the NPC pirates who in .4 space give a reasonable good cash reward and some pretty naff loot. I've only had one PVP experince (I wont count gate ganking because it was over before I even knew it had started >me dead) and that was in a belt, I was snooping around and this Frig just attacked me... So I locked on and blew him up... I got the taste for it then... But I know this player was a noob and he attacked me, probably for a laugh. Next time I probably wont be so lucky... So, are there any Pirate corps that are worth joining? I mean ones that have mature players and not players who would shoot me when they get bored... Thats compeletly false. You do not need a bs to pirate. A Blackbird or a Ferox are great for pirating. If you can use electronic warfare properly, there will be no need to tank. Your best bet is to have a loot around for pirate corporations and join one. They will often hunt together with you and teach you the basics. The whole Battleship is everything in EvE is totally false in everything, except probably fleet battles. You don't need one to fight, and more importantly if you don't know what your doing, don't bother getting in one as you will just loose it. you need one to hunt NPC BS's, so you can fix your sec status when it gets way 2 low B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Siddy	Posted - 2005.02.05 11:15:00 - [13] First, you need to get big gunsÖ.... ... no, Bigger! Then you need to find a miner. Get near enuff to turn scramblers on him, and point thous Big gunsÖ on him. After what, ask a reasonable amaount of Cash, if failad to pay, use thous Big gunsÖ on him. simpple -------------------------------------------
Garrad	Posted - 2005.02.05 14:12:00 - [14] I like your plan Siddy... Basic, but cool :-) Okay, so I have a blackbird and a Cal... Which is best and what sort of load out should I have to go picking on these miners and mission seeking frigs. Lastly.... where near Derelickt is good for this type of hunting? Went out today and snooped about a bit, but I still couldnt get a handle on how the damn scanner works.... Anyone got a like to a thread or a website that can explaing this to me I scanned today, and by adjusting the angle and turn the viewpoint I picked up a ship, but there seemed no way to use this info... Right clicking on the target ship will not give me a warp to option... I'm missing sometthing? right? Oh and anyone have the name of noobie friendly Pirate corps?
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.02.05 14:58:00 - [15] Originally by: Garrad Oh and anyone have the name of noobie friendly Pirate corps? m0o? B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Siddy	Posted - 2005.02.05 15:42:00 - [16] Originally by: Bad'Boy Originally by: Garrad Oh and anyone have the name of noobie friendly Pirate corps? m0o? strongly depends on what you try to say by "noobie frendly" -------------------------------------------
Garrad	Posted - 2005.02.05 16:02:00 - [17] Noobie to being a Pirate - that sort of Noobie friendly... I'm looking for a corp that are cool, wont rip me off and dont want me to mine, like hunting either NPC or PVP... Tolerant of someone like me who want to get into PVP but has no experince at the mo'
DoctorDanny	Posted - 2005.02.06 11:26:00 - [18] Garrad, If you can afford and fly them I advise you to look into the Battlecruisers. Especially the Ferox and the Prophecy are very good ships for solo PvP. The Prophecy can be turned into a big fat tank and the Ferox's many med slots allow for some good EW or shieldtanking. Like someone above allready mentioned, expect to lose tons of ships in the beginning. I started to PvP completely clueless and learned the hard way. Still there's a great many players out there that kick my 4SS without even breaking a sweat. Dont go PvP in a ship that you cant replace. Also important is your Security Status, this will drop very quickly when you start killing people in empire. BadBoy allready stated that you really need access to a 0.0 system with nice battleship spawns to fix that sec.status when it gets too low. As for PvP corps, most pirate corps will only recruit by inviting players. You'd better look for a anti-pirate corp or coalition first to join. Another option is to join a pirate/merc corp of lower standing like Mercenary Forces. They tend to be a lot less choosy in who they allow in and have some very good players that can teach you the drill. Have fun!
OffBeaT	Posted - 2005.02.06 16:58:00 - [19] truth is bro.. if your gona pvp in 00 space in thouse ships i would say forget it.. they cant stand thouse ships.. there all in intersepters or ubar assult ships now.. you cant compet at all in thouse ships or with them t1 guns.. they will just throw packs of intersepters at you.. dont use any implants.. these intersepters are ubar at catching pods.. your still a year away form doing any real combat or owning any kind of real fighting ships other then a BS.. so get in a BS asap.. its the only ship worth getting into now if your under 10mil in points..
Shintoko Akahoshi	Posted - 2005.02.06 18:00:00 - [20] That's a bunch of crap, really. Don't listen to him. The thing about combat is you have to know yourself and know your enemy. What I mean by that is you have to know what you can do with your skills and your ship, and you have to know what kinds of ships you can take and which you can not. For instance, the ubiquitous Kestrel with MWD, web and scrambler is a nice, cheap way to nail indies. It's okay against other frigates, too. Against tech 2 ships and larger craft, it's pretty poor. So if you're flying one of those (and I heavily recommend flying frigates until you know what you're doing), you need to seek out the indies and avoid everything else. Get on Chaos (or whatever they're calling the test server now. Sisi?) and fight people. It's a great way to play with different ships and get an idea of what they can (and can't) do. Learn what you can do, and learn what other people do back to you. Good luck with pvp, and welcome to the fun part of Eve. Oh, and finding a pvp corp that takes on new pilots is always good. Learning from someone else is always faster than trying to figure it all out as you go. Once upon a time I would have recommended Mercenary Forces as a good corp to talk to for your aims, but they're gone now. Maybe just post something in the recruitment forums saying you're a baby pirate and you want some help growing up... There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense

Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.02.06 18:02:00 - [21] Originally by: OffBeaT truth is bro.. if your gona pvp in 00 space in thouse ships i would say forget it.. they cant stand thouse ships.. there all in intersepters or ubar assult ships now.. you cant compet at all in thouse ships or with them t1 guns.. they will just throw packs of intersepters at you.. dont use any implants.. these intersepters are ubar at catching pods.. your still a year away form doing any real combat or owning any kind of real fighting ships other then a BS.. so get in a BS asap.. its the only ship worth getting into now if your under 10mil in points.. thats bull B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
OffBeaT	Posted - 2005.02.06 18:21:00 - [22] Originally by: Bad'Boy Originally by: OffBeaT truth is bro.. if your gona pvp in 00 space in thouse ships i would say forget it.. they cant stand thouse ships.. there all in intersepters or ubar assult ships now.. you cant compet at all in thouse ships or with them t1 guns.. they will just throw packs of intersepters at you.. dont use any implants.. these intersepters are ubar at catching pods.. your still a year away form doing any real combat or owning any kind of real fighting ships other then a BS.. so get in a BS asap.. its the only ship worth getting into now if your under 10mil in points.. thats bull shoure it is.. if he is solo at it.. thouse ships hes in will do him no good.. you people can keep saying how good they are all you wont.. i know myself better.. if he is in any of them ships without t2 guns hes dead.. faster then he can think.. since your only a ganker i bet you wouldnt know that..
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.02.06 18:43:00 - [23] Originally by: OffBeaT Originally by: Bad'Boy Originally by: OffBeaT truth is bro.. if your gona pvp in 00 space in thouse ships i would say forget it.. they cant stand thouse ships.. there all in intersepters or ubar assult ships now.. you cant compet at all in thouse ships or with them t1 guns.. they will just throw packs of intersepters at you.. dont use any implants.. these intersepters are ubar at catching pods.. your still a year away form doing any real combat or owning any kind of real fighting ships other then a BS.. so get in a BS asap.. its the only ship worth getting into now if your under 10mil in points.. thats bull shoure it is.. if he is solo at it.. thouse ships hes in will do him no good.. you people can keep saying how good they are all you wont.. i know myself better.. if he is in any of them ships without t2 guns hes dead.. faster then he can think.. since your only a ganker i bet you wouldnt know that.. yea, tech 2 guns are must on kessi B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.02.06 18:44:00 - [24] Originally by: OffBeaT Originally by: Bad'Boy Originally by: OffBeaT truth is bro.. if your gona pvp in 00 space in thouse ships i would say forget it.. they cant stand thouse ships.. there all in intersepters or ubar assult ships now.. you cant compet at all in thouse ships or with them t1 guns.. they will just throw packs of intersepters at you.. dont use any implants.. these intersepters are ubar at catching pods.. your still a year away form doing any real combat or owning any kind of real fighting ships other then a BS.. so get in a BS asap.. its the only ship worth getting into now if your under 10mil in points.. thats bull since your only a ganker i bet you wouldnt know that.. B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
OffBeaT	Posted - 2005.02.06 18:56:00 - [25] you know how many BS loged on me today.. no less then 3.. soon as i locked them down they log.. the last one was this guy. smuld in a bs.. this game is getting stupider buy the minit.. i cant even have a fight anymore solo.. ** sakes.. if they ant 10 to one im not having a fight.. 3 **en bs log on me in one day.. how freaking stupid is that on a solo player.. its hard enough for me too jam and lock one down just too see them do the log for it.. hrs im wasting here hunting for what.. a kill i cant ever make..
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.02.06 19:01:00 - [26] Originally by: OffBeaT you know how many BS loged on me today.. no less then 3.. soon as i locked them down they log.. the last one was this guy. smuld in a bs.. this game is getting stupider buy the minit.. i cant even have a fight anymore solo.. ** sakes.. if they ant 10 to one im not having a fight.. 3 **en bs log on me in one day.. how freaking stupid is that on a solo player.. its hard enough for me too jam and lock one down just too see them do the log for it.. hrs im wasting here hunting for what.. a kill i cant ever make.. plz tell me, what it got to do with this tread B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
OffBeaT	Posted - 2005.02.06 19:12:00 - [27] im right here bad boy.. in kbp waiting.. drop on up.. try not too log on me huh!
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.02.06 19:14:00 - [28] Originally by: OffBeaT im right here bad boy.. in kbp waiting.. drop on up.. try not too log on me huh! leave me alone, doing level 2 missions.... B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling "Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
Droidster	Posted - 2005.02.07 04:21:00 - [29] I'm not a pirate but against my better judgment I can give you some tips (great, one more ADD basket case to shoot at me). Anyway, don't get a battleship. You will just lose it. First off you need to decide what your goals are. Do you want to make money or kill people? Those are contradictory goals. It's hard to get money from people who are dead. Also, its generally easier to kill miners than to make a lot of money from ransom until you get good at it. Find a group of pirates to fly with. These days a lot of pirates fly around in frigate gank squads using intys. If you have an inty you will have no trouble finding a gang. They will teach you the ropes. It is a lot easier to kill people if you have a group. If you are soloing the Blackbird is a good ship. Don't worry about fighting. Your typical miner is not going to fight. They are not even looking at your ship. They are just trying to get away. You could kill them with a condor. The key thing is that they have to be scrambled which is why the Blackbird is good. Use an alt with a scanner as Rollin says to find out where they are. Make the alt go away and then warp in. One problem is that if the miner is smart they will be far away from the warp in point so you either have to be fast or use a lot of bookmarks and scanning to land on top of them. One cheapo trick is to find a ninja miner and then bookmark his cans. Then you will land right on him. Be aware that solo gank artists are vulnerable to pirate hunters (and other pirates) especially if your status goes criminal, but I guess you'll find this out on your own. Good luck, and please don't pod me _____________________________________________ I am motivated by various things, mostly ISK.
RollinDutchMasters	Posted - 2005.02.07 05:44:00 - [30] Originally by: Droidster Be aware that solo gank artists are vulnerable to pirate hunters (and other pirates) especially if your status goes criminal, but I guess you'll find this out on your own. Pirate hunters are some of the most incompetent people in EVE. Not only will they never fight without a 5:1 numbers edge, they wont even be smart enough to mask their numbers. The only threat they pose is such insepid and absurd smacktalk that you eventually self-destruct in disgust at the human race. The biggest danger to ransom pirates in low-sec space are, in order: 1. Other pirates 2. 0.0-Based corps with skilled PvPers 3. CCP 4. NPCs 5. Act of God 6. Pirate hunters Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.



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